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Good advice. Thanks.

Go look at all of the people walking (and driving) around with their faces in their phones. The zombies are already here.

My Aprils Fools Prank for one of games was to turn all of the user's horses into zombies. It was planned before the virus got here. I'm not sure if we do it, or if it's in bad taste now.

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/03/13/first-positive-alaska-coronavirus-case-identified/

And therein lies the rub with me. A former co-worker of mine lives south of Wuhan China as an English teacher. She emailed me that when they shut down Wuhan. They shut down all of Wuhan. Schools, factories, restaurants. Everything. You don't leave your house unless you had a very good reason. This is for a month. You won't get compliance of that nature here as the Chinese are raised to be obedient. Not us.

The other problem I see is that our version of shutting things down is in fits and starts. Not EVERYTHING is shutting down at once. What do you do if/when this doesn't work and the spread/mortality continues? What then?

I may start drinking and I quit years ago.....

France to close all restaurants, clubs and cinimas

News like this will make sure the hoarding continues around here.

Dang

Well, it looks like West Virginia wins!

Even SARS-Cov-2 can hear the banjos.

My son was pretty bummed today-he is very good at hockey but there isn't a high school hockey team so he took some time off and went into track and was going to have his first high school track meet Tuesday and had a chance to get his first letter. Plus he was lifting with the football team which he loved.
We tried to tell him that we don't think he will have a track meet the rest of the year and that he will probably have to spend the rest of the school year at our dining room table. He told us we are nuts, he will be back in a few weeks and there will not be any changes after April 3rd.
He is in for a rude awakening.

And the people that have been pissing and moaning all week that the "flu" isn't going to stop them made sure that whether they went to Florida for spring break, bike week or a St. Pattys day party or to a bar, they made sure to take a picture and say something stupid that they don't care, they aren't staying home.

I think at best, we may slightly slow the spread, but people just are not going to stay at home for 2 weeks or 2 months. Ain't going to happen.

So, what do you make of this article? https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/us/school...IgS0iJdHypQfXWo

(CNN)Closing schools for eight weeks or more may have a greater impact on mitigating the spread of the novel coronavirus than two- to four-week closures, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has said.
Shorter-term closures will likely make little difference in the spread of the disease, new CDC guidance states, even as K-12 school districts across the country began announcing school closures within the shorter time frame.


Further, short-term closures may actually have detrimental effects, negatively impacting older caregivers at home, the CDC said.
Closing schools also comes with its own setbacks, namely a potentially negative impact on academic outcomes, which the CDC also acknowledged in its updated guidelines. The Department of Education recently issued its own guidance to educators about its flexibility related to student absences and testing standards.

In any school closure, students could still congregate outside of school and spread the disease, the CDC acknowledged.
Other mitigation efforts, including handwashing and home isolation, "have more impact on (the) spread of disease," the new CDC guidance states.

"In other countries, those places who closed school ... have not had more success in reducing spread than those that did not," the CDC said, offering as examples Hong Kong and Singapore, respectively.
Some American colleges and universities have issued indefinite campus closures, with courses moving online and dorms shut down entirely."

I don't have a problem with closing schools I guess. But, as I see it, the kids aren't just staying at home, in an isolated situation. They're having friends over, going to movies, out and about. On top of that, parents are still going to work, being around people as well. Hey, working from home is great, if you can get that gig. A whole bunch of people can't do it though.




Anyway, we've finished moving our daughter out of her dorm at the U. of Toledo. Dorms close for good on the 22nd - except for a few exceptions the u. will make.

It's like anything.... it's just one piece of the puzzle, but it also highlights the dangers inherent to the fact that we are a free society.




"Half-measures availed us nothing....."

Basically, nothing short of martial law will stop the spread, and that simply is not happening. So, all that is left is to be as open and clear with the public as we can. Educate them on How, What, and Why things need to be done. Avoid pulling punches when speaking about the ramifications of this not working. Be clear... on a 3rd grade level of understanding kinda clear.

Then, hope. It's really all a crap shoot now, anyway.

The absolute best advice I've seen is for everyone to act as if you already DO have COVID-19 and you're afraid of spreading it to anyone else.

Everyone should be being that level of cautious. We should be getting through to our kids the need to be this level of cautious... because, undoubtedly, some of us DO have it.

Not for long. Feels like we are slowly headed in the martial law direction. Ski resorts shutdown today. In Colorado, that was by order of the governor. If the rumors I've heard were true, that will not be the last thing the government shuts down. I have a feeling that the cure will be worse than the virus.

I am thinking more like 2 years minimum. You have to go about testing to make sure it is safe before being dispensed to millions of people.

The common cold is from a corona virus, and we have never been able to crack that code. We may never be able to control this thing.

I think having our kids where we can keep an eye on them and protect them from the petri dish of close contact with other kids is probably the wisest thing we could do EVEN if it doesn't change the math. I don't have a kid at home and all of mine have children of their own but I agree with the CDC here. 8 weeks will not be life shattering in the scope of things, heck 6 months wouldn't be either for that matter.

If this gets bad enough, you can count on Martial Law happening IMHO.

Saturday's Plain Dealer sub-headline read: Cases more than double overnight.

The number of cases went from 6 to 13. The statement is correct, but misleading and alarmist, IMO. And then there's the governor and his director of the Ohio Dept of Health who stated that there were probably 100,000 infected Ohioans already ...

Ohio Governor’s Alarming Claim About The Number Of Coronavirus Cases Was Based On A ‘Guesstimate’

https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/13/ohio-governor-coronavirus-100000/

I'm not suggesting its not a serious situation that needs addressing, but when I go shopping and can't find milk, eggs, bread, toilet paper, Kleenex, or even dogfood for my pup, it makes me think that what we really need is calm leadership from government without hysterical projections or wild extrapolation of statistics, and reporting of facts by the media, minus the hyperbole. JMO.

The problem is that in America, shutting down, means not going to places you are required to go, work, school, etc. But most will just see it as days off and go about life as if it's a long weekend.

We're seeing this with our daughter's friends. They're constantly asking her to go to the movies and mall. Like the other parents are thinking they need to keep the kids engaged with their friends to help their mood. My daughter is feeling left out, but we're holding firm. Nobody is leaving the house unless it's necessary.

j/c...

Time to go stock up on Honey Hut before they close again.

j/c...

Wow! On one hand, ok. On the other hand - that would be a huge thing.










On a side note: Read something recently asking "how many people do you know that got sick in November, December with what was described as 'the crud'? A cough, cold symptoms, etc that lasted for 2-6 weeks? It was probably the corona virus, or some variant of it."

And that got me thinking. I know several people that had the 'crud' in that time frame. 2 of these people even went to the doctor and were told "it's going around." There's lasted close to 6 weeks.

My daughter came home from college in early december with it. Started with sinus issues, but it was so far up in her head she couldn't blow her nose. She had a cough, then got sore throat. Cough lasted about a month.

I avoided her as much as I could, but I got it. Same issues. Wife even griped to me about "just go blow your nose." And I couldn't. Asked Sooga if she could tell mom what it was like when she had it. Pretty much word for word what I had said.

My cough lasted about 7 weeks. The sinus issues lasted about the same. Sore throat for only 4-5 days. I got a plugged ear. My good ear. I couldn't hear out of it. Fluid in the eustachion tube. This was a little before my wife had surgery.

Knowing, with her back surgery, she didn't want what I had, we didn't sleep in the same room for about a month. Hey, you just had spinal fusion surgery, you don't want to be coughing like I am......

Is it possible this virus has been here much longer than we currently think?

And no, thinking it was just the 'crud',based on what others had said and had been to the doctor, neither my daughter or I went to the doctor. Never had a fever, either, that we know of anyway.

Has it been here longer than we think? I don't know when the first issue/s came up in China, but it was around then, wasn't it?

Not likely, although probably not impossible.

I think The Crud was just The Crud. Cases of COVID-19 that don't require hospitalization don't seem to last weeks. It is the severe cases that do and primarily because you need help breathing.

By most accounts, the first cases did not escape the Chinese mainland until around the New Year.

Ok. It was just a question.......made me wonder.

Also, COVID-19 does not cause congestion and The Crud does not include a fever, shortness of breath, chest pains and difficulty breathing.

There's more than one virus going around this time of year.

So, a severe case.
Expect a lot more, soon, I reckon.

The next two weeks will either be a relief or a sign of things to come.

I can't speak for the other states but at least here in Oklahoma, they are still counting the initial guy who came back from Italy and he was pronounced recovered 3 days ago. The Johns Hopkins tracker also doesn't reflect this recovery. They only show 12 recovered in the states and there could be a lot more than 12.

j/c...

West Virginia can finally be proud that their state is such a a hellhole that even the virus doesn’t want to visit.

I predicted they would win on your FB post.

Wow...

It just keeps getting worse by the day in Italy.