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Because it over over yet! At least I get to see Biden and Bernie debate the issues.

Unless of course if the DNC finds reason to cancel it.

40 have you seen the dow today? Down over 2100 right now. Approaching 21,000 overall. Where was it when Trump came to the WH 17K-18K?

After listening to Bernie it seems he thinks he will be moderating the event.

Yeah, it's over. Even Bernie knows it. Bernie can't win Florida, Ohio or Illinois. He knows it.

Currently the Market has the Flu.

Yep, I think he's going into negotiation mode now. But we'll see. With two hours of 1-1 on stage and unscripted questions from the audience (unless they are plants), I could see Joe losing it.

It must be sexually transmitted because investors aren't screwing around getting their money out.

If this thing crashes to 08-09 levels under Trump, it'll be 30 years climbing back to 30k.

DNC: There Will Be No Live Audience At Upcoming Debate | MSNBC

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Hmmm, I wonder if the will cut to commercial break when Biden gets in trouble... At least they don't have to worry about him cussing somebody out and telling them not to vote for him.

So far it's been pretty easy to stop Bernie in his tracks. You don't even need to ask him how he's going to pay for it.

All you have to do is ask him what all of his giveaways cost. Even he admits he has no idea.

You already have your built in excuses don't you? The audience will be plants? They'll break to commercials if Biden gets in trouble?

You sound like 2016 Trump.... "If I win it's fair. If they win it's rigged."

Heads I win, tails you lose?

You're hilarious.

MARKETS
Fed to pump more than $500 billion into short-term bank funding, expand types of security purchases

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/12/fed-to-p...-purchases.html

Breaking right now.

Only so many tire patches you can do before it completely goes flat.

My morning toe dipping is paying off!

Another damned Obama bailout!?

Markets would have tanked no matter who was POTUS. I might believe and think that they've reacted worse because Trump is clearly woefully inept at a time of crisis and has focused on all the wrong things. But I don't know if that's a 2% 4% 8% difference and there is no way to prove it. More worried about what happens moving forward.

Uhh that rally didn’t last long.

I used to go bet the horses a bit. It sure would have been nice to have somebody stuff my pockets again every time things went south. smh It's gambling and there should be times you lose your shirt. But socialism for the wealthy is in vogue.

And don't take me wrong, I don't want to see the markets crash, but I don't think bailing them out again and again helps the working man.

Check that half a bill:

Fed to pump in more than $1 trillion in dramatic ramping up of market intervention amid coronavirus meltdown

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/12/fed-to-p...-purchases.html

Overall, more than 1.5 trillion.

Bernie Sanders finally wins California

The win gives him some much-needed momentum going into Sunday’s debate.

It’s finally official: Sen. Bernie Sanders has won the California primary, guaranteeing him an influx of delegates and momentum as he tries to stave off gains by former Vice President Joe Biden.

While this victory was expected, it’s taken on greater importance for Sanders, enabling him to claim a major Super Tuesday success after Biden swept the lion’s share of states in the past two weeks. Of the 14 states that voted on Super Tuesday, Sanders won only four. And in the week that followed, he’s picked up just one so far.

As such, this California victory is significant. The state has a whopping 415 pledged delegates, and gains there are likely to bring the two frontrunners closer to one another, even as Biden continues to build on his lead.

In the national delegate race, Biden had pulled ahead with 801 delegates to Sanders’s 657 before California numbers came in. While we don’t yet know how the delegates from California will be divided, those margins are set to tighten slightly but not by much, since Biden will see gains from the state, too.

The outcome in California ultimately had Biden and Sanders within roughly seven points of each other. Our partners at DecisonDesk called the state with Sanders winning 34.3 percent of the vote and Biden winning 27.5 percent.

Sanders’s win comes at a critical point in the race.

Although Sanders began the primary strong, running even with former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg in Iowa and scoring back-to-back wins in New Hampshire and Nevada, the competition has grown more intense after Biden won South Carolina by a landslide and racked up victory after victory since.

By coming in first in California, Sanders may recapture some of the momentum he previously had. The landscape, however, gets a lot tougher for him moving forward.

Sanders’s team invested early in California — and Latino voters
Sanders’s decisive California victory is the result of significant investment in the state by his campaign, which established a noticeable on-the-ground presence that focused on Latino voters. According to early NBC News exit polls, Sanders wound up winning 49 percent support from Latino voters in the state, compared to Biden, who won 19 percent.

Polling had previously reflected his advantage: According to the RealClearPolitics average, he was polling ahead of Biden, the next-closest candidate, by 12 points on the day of the primary. A late-breaking poll from Data for Progress also showed Sanders in the lead and Biden in second.

Political experts say his dominance in California was driven by an effective ground game, including the extensive outreach to Latino voters, who make up 31 percent of eligible voters in California.

“Sanders’s campaign invested early, and invested in demographics where they could win and in areas where they think they could win,” Sacramento-based Democratic strategist Steven Maviglio told Vox.

Sanders’s campaign set up more than 20 offices in the state beginning last year and has ramped up its presence since 2016, when he lost to Hillary Clinton by roughly 7 percentage points. The campaign also dialed up its focus on independent voters, a quickly growing bloc in California that now comprises 28 percent of the state’s electorate.

“We have put in our offices in predominately Latino communities, and we’ve been on the ground for the better part of a year,” Sanders’s California communications director Anna Bahr told Vox. “The way that the senator organizes, the very nature of the grassroots campaign — all of that resonates with the political history and legacy of Latinos in California.”

Sanders’s campaign — despite the obstacles around grassroots campaigning in the expansive state — were able to knock on more than a million doors during their time there.

The state’s more progressive lean, too, is something that likely favored Sanders. According to Gallup, California voters overall are on the more liberal end of the spectrum, compared to other states.

Because the final vote was pretty close between the two candidates, Sanders and Biden will both pick up a solid chunk of the state’s delegates.

In California, candidates are able to win delegates if they hit the 15 percent threshold statewide and if they hit the same threshold in individual districts. Since Sanders and Biden are the only ones who’ve made the statewide cutoff — and Sanders was able to secure a larger proportion of support — it means he’s set to get more of the state-level delegates. He’s also expected to do well at the congressional district level, which accounts for 65 percent of the total delegate haul.

This year, California moved its primary up from June to Super Tuesday, giving it a more decisive role in picking the Democratic nominee. Sanders’s win in California may be what helps keep him in the race.

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/12/21156258/california-primary-winner-bernie-sanders

Actually at one point Bernie was leading by 10 points. He is currently ahead by 7 points. This was the expected outcome all along. Only everyone was saying he would win by more. Didn't happen.

Dow fell 10% today.

Bernie winning states does virtually nothing for him .... he needs to win in a landslide for it to have an impact.

He needs to stay in the race until the convention. Joe needs 1991 delegates to be the nominee. I'd like to see a million Bernie supporting progressives show up at the convention.

But he'll probably drop out because he feels like he needs to heal the divide... But the lead is not insurmountable if Bidens falls apart in the debate or any more major signs of slipping come up. His treatment of voters that challenge him is reprehensible, and I think that anger is tied to early dementia.

Bernie should hang in there for when Biden starts screaming about Muskrats and running in circles. Then America will be like putty in his hands.

AOC implies voter suppression cost Bernie Sanders Michigan primary: 'Kids were waiting three hours' to vote

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., strongly implied Thursday in her first sit-down interview with Fox News that Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., lost this week's Michigan primary because of voter suppression.

"Well, I think one thing that isn't being talked about is the rampant voter suppression in this country," Ocasio-Cortez said. "Right there in Ann Arbor, where we had that rally, those kids were waiting three hours in line to vote in Michigan. And so when we talk about who's turning out and who's not turning out, we absolutely need to be clear."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/aoc-voter-suppression-bernie-sanders-michigan-primary

I think she was looking at the wrong lines. That line was to buy marijuana.

What do long lines, "kids" waiting, and voter suppression have to do with each other?

3hr lines to vote is normal around here, doesn't matter what age you are.

And I'm not sure she is old enough to reference young adults as "kids"

My son, who thinks everything is a conspiracy against Sanders, was asked the question.

"So, if there are long lines, how does that steal votes from Bernie, I mean, all voters are waiting in the line?"

"Because older people will just wait, younger people aren't going to stand in a line for three hours."

"Thank you. You've answered many more questions than you intended."

Not these days. They were waiting in line to buy toilet paper.

j/c

I'm going to sit back for a change and let the Bernie Bros keep making excuses and coming up with crazy conspiracy theories while Joe runs away with this thing.

Wonder if they'll delay the primaries in upcoming states because of this COVID-19?

I would imagine. But I'm voting tomorrow so it won't matter to me. Unless the polling stations are closed.

trump has a lock on your party so it shouldn’t matter if you vote or not in this primary.

So I went to vote this afternoon. There were 4 people voting, no wait, in and out... Early voting tomorrow and Monday too I believe, so if you want to avoid the coronavirus exposure and still vote, I suggest you look up your local board of elections and vote early while you can.

BERNIE 2020!

early voting is the shizz.
Superfast.... and clean, yo.

I know I'll get bashed for this but it just doesn't matter.

While we're hunkered down trying to avoid the ominous inevitable spread of the coronavirus and realizing the masterful political mismanagement snafus that have compounded the intensity of the entire situation, ask yourself how we got here and who on the other side of tens of thousands of expected unfortunate deaths will be the best person to lead us forward?

Will it be the current administration with it's braggadocious lying orange doofus leading the reeling mournful masses into a better tomorrow where the promise to never let this happen again on a scale so unprecedentedly unchecked and ill prepared for is as empty as his head?

Will it be stumbling stuttering suspectedly senile status quo angry uncle Joe leading us forward by moving us backward in a quasi jedi truth twisting mind trick like standing up to popcorn the gangbanger miraculous victorious medical management moment because he spent 8 years watching Obama smoothly operate?

OR Will it be the unabashed honesty and integrity of the 40 plus year servant and champion of the people with his unquestionable history of fighting for the betterment of american lives in every unrewarding self sacrificing way possible while focusing on the most basic fundamentally humane and charitable political agenda since the great FDR lead us back from the brink with the social contracts of the New Deal?

The answer is obvious; Bernie 2020! Please do the right thing for all of us and go vote for this man.

I may get blasted for this. I see two ways this could go.

1. A high enough percentage of the world population gets this virus and trump seizes total control of the gov’t by declaring Marshall Law with no federal elections.

2. This was all overblown by media hype.

Nobody knows

As far as Bernie vs Joe. I’m on board with who ever. Besides the youngest voters never show up. So you know where that leaves Bernie.

Yes, depending on older "moderate" folks to come to their senses and vote for him.

What's going to happen with primaries, campaign stops, debates etc.? They are mass gatherings.

Regarding primaries, this is further proof that the rest of America needs to follow Oregon's lead and go towards postal ballots. I love how simple and easy it is.