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I think that this head coach values RBs greatly.
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There is a very good chance this new front office values running backs very little. I would agree with this. Unless Stefanski values them very little, I would not agree with this at all.
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Hunt has proved so far that he's one notch above Josh Gordon....he might not even be able to play if he can't stay on the straight and narrow....hope he can....GO Browns
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There is a very good chance this new front office values running backs very little. I would agree with this. Unless Stefanski values them very little, I would not agree with this at all. If we didn't also have Nick Chubb I would change my tune.
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There is a very good chance this new front office values running backs very little. I would agree with this. Unless Stefanski values them very little, I would not agree with this at all. I think Stefanski values them in his offense, sure. I think the FO doesn't value them as much as other positions when it comes to contracts.
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What about depth?
I like the insurance policy Hunt provides.
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Remember these comments when Berry makes Chubb the highest paid RB next offseason.
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Remember these comments when Berry makes Chubb the highest paid RB next offseason. I am very skeptical of that happening.
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What about depth?
I like the insurance policy Hunt provides. It's great. But a second round pick is better. It's not like we can't replace Hunt if he is signed. Running backs are not hard to find. We could sign a guy like Jordan Howard for like one year and $4 million. In the end it probably won't matter. The rest of the league has devalued running backs and I doubt anyone is giving up a second round pick for Hunt and signing him to a long term deal.
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This is where I completely disagree. RBs like Chubb and Hunt are not easy to find. Their skill is just a little bit better than everyone else and we have them both. Get good players, keep good players. The value game is important, I get it, but sometimes things are simple too and this organization always over thinks things.
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Hunt just got stopped with weed, how can we trust him....he's on the straight and narrow just like Josh Gordon....Go Browns!!!
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I haven't seen Joe Schobert's name come up anywhere today. My bet is that his agent is waiting for Cory Littleton to set the market. If there is any chance for Schobert to come back we need Littleton to get less money than expected.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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If you want to see people jumping off the ledge, go to the Texans message board.
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If I read correctly, it's basically Hopkins for Johnson and a 2nd rounder, with a swap of 4th round picks. That's still aggravated robbery for the Cardinals. 
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If I read correctly, it's basically Hopkins for Johnson and a 2nd rounder, with a swap of 4th round picks. That's still aggravated robbery for the Cardinals. Yes. It is truly unbelievable. BOB.
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j/c:
I get that some people have a different mindset on value, but a second round pick is not more valuable than Hunt.
I can think of two good ones in recent years. Bitonio and Chubb.
I can think of four bad ones in recent years. Austin Corbett? Kizer? Ogbah? Orchard?
I don't think that is such a sure thing. While Hunt does have the character concerns, he is undeniably a great back. He is actually a better all-around back than Chubb. I am not dissing Chubb and he is my favorite player on the team. But Hunt is a much better blocker and a better receiver.
Don't throw him away for a question mark.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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j/c:
I get that some people have a different mindset on value, but a second round pick is not more valuable than Hunt.
I can think of two good ones in recent years. Bitonio and Chubb.
I can think of four bad ones in recent years. Austin Corbett? Kizer? Ogbah? Orchard?
I don't think that is such a sure thing. While Hunt does have the character concerns, he is undeniably a great back. He is actually a better all-around back than Chubb. I am not dissing Chubb and he is my favorite player on the team. But Hunt is a much better blocker and a better receiver.
Don't throw him away for a question mark. Could not agree more. Even an average mid 2nd rounder is at least 30% crapshoot. Hunt is 100% good / bordering elite RB. There may be a time and a place, and a lot may be based on our inside scrutiny of character issues, but no way in hell he goes to the Ravens, Chiefs or Steelers. Not on my watch lol.
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j/c:
I get that some people have a different mindset on value, but a second round pick is not more valuable than Hunt.
I can think of two good ones in recent years. Bitonio and Chubb.
I can think of four bad ones in recent years. Austin Corbett? Kizer? Ogbah? Orchard?
I don't think that is such a sure thing. While Hunt does have the character concerns, he is undeniably a great back. He is actually a better all-around back than Chubb. I am not dissing Chubb and he is my favorite player on the team. But Hunt is a much better blocker and a better receiver.
Don't throw him away for a question mark. Could not agree more. Even an average mid 2nd rounder is at least 30% crapshoot. Hunt is 100% good / bordering elite RB. There may be a time and a place, and a lot may be based on our inside scrutiny of character issues, but no way in hell he goes to the Ravens, Chiefs or Steelers. Not on my watch lol. Please keep Hunt 
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This would be a good example of overpaying.
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Graham has been on the downside for 2-3 years now
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I think Stefanski values them in his offense, sure. I think the FO doesn't value them as much as other positions when it comes to contracts. I think placing a second round tender on him suggests otherwise.
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Former Browns’ S Eric Murray reached agreement with the Houston Texans on a three-year deal worth up to $20.25 million, per source.
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Eric Murray to the Texans.
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That's a bummer, especially after releasing Burnett.
Another major signing in the works for the Browns?
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Eric Murray to the Texans.
That seems like a lot for him. BOB is out of this world.
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O’Brien has certainly not had a popular day
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He is, but that is a loss for the Browns. Especially after they cut Burnett.
I said it before FA started, but I would have rolled w/Burnett and Murray as our SS and dime guys.
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He is, but that is a loss for the Browns. Especially after they cut Burnett.
I said it before FA started, but I would have rolled w/Burnett and Murray as our SS and dime guys. Burnett was never going to be on the team.
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He is, but that is a loss for the Browns. Especially after they cut Burnett.
I said it before FA started, but I would have rolled w/Burnett and Murray as our SS and dime guys. Burnett was never going to be on the team. What does that have to do w/my post? Seriously? I think they should have kept him. They did not. Okay. That doesn't make me wrong? Does it?
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Eric Murray to the Texans.
That seems like a lot for him. BOB is out of this world. Seems like Murray's whole career was on the IR ...
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j/c:
I get that some people have a different mindset on value, but a second round pick is not more valuable than Hunt.
I can think of two good ones in recent years. Bitonio and Chubb.
I can think of four bad ones in recent years. Austin Corbett? Kizer? Ogbah? Orchard?
I don't think that is such a sure thing. While Hunt does have the character concerns, he is undeniably a great back. He is actually a better all-around back than Chubb. I am not dissing Chubb and he is my favorite player on the team. But Hunt is a much better blocker and a better receiver.
Don't throw him away for a question mark. I think the issue comes down to what you think the likelihood Hunt gets suspended again is. If he doesn't get suspended then he is much more valuable than a 2nd round pick. If he does, then a 2nd is more valuable Unfortunately, we won't know the answer for a few years
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Fair enough. What would you do?
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