That's fine and I'm not criticizing you at all. I will add that I vigorously disagree w/your talent evaluation of Joe. I think he is a much, much better player than you are giving him credit for.
I posted multiple PFF charts of where Joe ranked in certain categories. PFF is not the end-all. Not claiming that. It's a piece of information. I watch the games and Joe is excellent in coverage. He is so intelligent and instinctive in regards to finding the ball and being in the right spots. He is not the most physical tackler, but his DTs [especially Ogunjobi] did not eat-up too many blocks. They are better at penetrating. That's important to a LBer.
Not sure if Dustin Fox is being facetious or serious, but he just implied the Jags are so dumb for signing that contract
He wasn't being facetious. He's definitely not a Schobert fan. Thinks he misses too many tackles, for one thing.
Schobert was as good as any ILB covering the pass but not so much against the run Mack Wilson can do both very well ...
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Not sure if Dustin Fox is being facetious or serious, but he just implied the Jags are so dumb for signing that contract
He wasn't being facetious. He's definitely not a Schobert fan. Thinks he misses too many tackles, for one thing.
Schobert was as good as any ILB covering the pass but not so much against the run Mack Wilson can do both very well ...
I think Mack Wilson is going to be a very good linebacker.
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11m per puts him in the same light as Erick Kendricks, Bendardrick McKinney and Lavonte David, which is why I mentioned them.
I just do not agree that he is that quality of a player. Good for him, let him live, but he is a one dimensional player who got washed out against any decent rushing attack. Joe Mixon absolutely wore him (and our defense) out in both meetings last season.
I agree with you, not out of line, not wildly scoffing at the deal, I just don't think he is that far above replacement level to pay him 11m per.
What are Joe's #s and grades compared to said players....
Not sure if Dustin Fox is being facetious or serious, but he just implied the Jags are so dumb for signing that contract
He wasn't being facetious. He's definitely not a Schobert fan. Thinks he misses too many tackles, for one thing.
Schobert was as good as any ILB covering the pass but not so much against the run Mack Wilson can do both very well ...
I think Mack Wilson is going to be a very good linebacker.
Joe Mixon made both Schobert and Wilson look below average as far as tackling ability. There has to be some reason(s) Wilson lasted until the 5th round, and I think tackling might be one of them.
11m per puts him in the same light as Erick Kendricks, Bendardrick McKinney and Lavonte David, which is why I mentioned them.
Kendricks signed his deal two years ago. Same with Bendardrick McKinney. Lavonte David is at the end of his deal.
Each year the salary cap goes up. each year the contract prices go up. I'm not sure trying to compare older contract amounts with current deals ia a fair comparison. Just sayin'.
In regards to Joe I'm willing to see how things shake out at the LB'er position before i cast judgement. On the surface I'm not a fan of him leaving. But my determination will be how we look at the LB'er position going into the season.
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I wonder why we wouldn't pay him that? I don't think that is out of line. At all.
It's weird because we spent so much yesterday. So, I can't use the "cheap" justification. Not signing him doesn't make any sense to me.
My guess is that data shows that off ball linebackers are easily replaceable on cheap contracts. Also, you can sub linebackers in and out of the game based on situation. My guess is that off ball linebackers will soon become like running backs where teams have several different guys who come in the game at different times with no one taking 100% of the snaps.
Chargers getting Bulaga trying to lure Brady it seems
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Not sure if Dustin Fox is being facetious or serious, but he just implied the Jags are so dumb for signing that contract
He wasn't being facetious. He's definitely not a Schobert fan. Thinks he misses too many tackles, for one thing.
Schobert was as good as any ILB covering the pass but not so much against the run Mack Wilson can do both very well ...
Not picking on you but I have been very vocal that Mack Wilson is another one dimensional player. He needs to add 15lbs, he is a coverage backer and that is really it.
It's ok to disagree, I just see him as a one dimensional player. I agree that our DT's did not help him but is he going to get that type of help in Jax? Glad he got paid.
Jeremy Fowler @JFowlerESPN · 9m The Bills have reached a two-year extension with safety Jordan Poyer, locking up one of their defensive leaders through 2022, according to a source.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
I wonder why we wouldn't pay him that? I don't think that is out of line. At all.
It's weird because we spent so much yesterday. So, I can't use the "cheap" justification. Not signing him doesn't make any sense to me.
The only viable reason I can figure out is his lower ratings against the run. Maybe the FO is looking at Baltimore’s run game and thinking they need a guy who is better at stopping it? Just a guess on my part.
He has said that he wanted to be here, because he likes the area, and this is the team that drafted him, and gave him a shot.
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I have no idea what we're going to do. The Hooper and Conklin deals were pretty surprising to me. Happily surprising.
But I'm legit worried about the LB & Safety spots. I wasn't in love with Joe but he was above average and a play caller / vocal leader on the defense. That's the kind of thing that doesn't show up on stats sheets but it super important. And now we don't just need 1 of each, at this point the cupboard is getting close to bare. Redwine did nothing in my eyes last year. Mack Wilson looked like a tweener in a bad way. Not terrible, but a depth guy. TikyToky? No idea, couldn't find the field. So, like practically no one at either position. They have to get busy. I hope they do. I think we (re)learned a very painful lesson last year (one of several) that having a handful of really good skills guys and hoping for the best will get totally torpedoed if you don't have at least average players and a bit of depth at most other positions. Just warm bodies and a cup full of hope will get you nothing.
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A guy I was hoping we'd make a run at .... and he took an incredibly affordable deal.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
This actually could make sense. Brady likes Brown .....
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
If the Bucs get Brady, and the Pats were to get Jameis, which team would have a better year ....?
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Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Yes ... but Belichick has a far superior defense, historically ..... and he has seen every weak point in Brady's game.
I would find it hard to go against Belichick.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo #Lions are releasing LB Devon Kennard, source says. Bit of a surprise there. Team captain coming off back-to-back seven-sack seasons. Should have interest elsewhere.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero · 49m The #Jets are signing former #Broncos C Connor McGovern to a three-year, $27 million deal that includes $18M fully guaranteed, per source.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
I just want to say "Thank you" to all the posters who do a great job of getting information on the board. My work as a CIA specialist and expert in infectious diseases keeps me away from here minutes at a time.
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John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
