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It could be nothing more than a depth signing, if it happens.


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Depth?
Outside of Conklin and that TE,everyone they've signed would be depth on a good team.
Here they are starters,to be exploited by those good teams.


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Some guys out there that I would still like to see the Browns sign for the right price

Jayron Kearse S
Adrian Phillips S
Zach Banner OT We still need depth
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Derek Wolfe DE Yes I am biased on that one grin


I don't get it ... whats there to be biased about.


I know Derek and his family, so I would love to see him playing for the Browns.


I see, thats cool. I always liked him as a player.


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He is also 32 years old.


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The above remarks by Barry happened at a particular time in a particular place. It was at a Combine press conference. It was widely reported that during the Combine that a meeting took place between the Browns and Schobert's representation. This makes your statement glaringly untrue.

Please don't argue that the timing of the statement was made before Barry met with Schobert's agent. We simply don't know, unless you have documented proof of when the meeting took place relative to the press conference remarks.

Even a single meeting could be enough to jumpstart stalled negotiations. That did not happen. There was an attempt made to find common ground. It was not successful. Case closed. Move on.


Here's the bottom line in all of this. Neither Berry nor Dorsey were willing to pay anything close to what Joe wanted to stay here. Both knew the asking price. The only difference I can really see, or anyone can actually substantiate, is that Dorsey realized the two sides were too far apart to find a reasonable middle ground. It seems Berry may have touched base with his agent, which doesn't mean there were anything "close to negotiations", and reached the exact same conclusion Dorsey did.

Two FO's, two different GM's, same results.


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He is also 32 years old.


Yes, he is.


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Sandejo is not a great player .. depth/ST if anything


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Sandejo is not a great player .. depth/ST if anything


To me his is ok. He's is just older relative to other players I would prefer to sign in FA. Long-term, at least.


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Aside from Todd Gurley, the Rams have also made Brandin Cooks available in a trade as they attempt to trim salary and restock their draft picks, per source.


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The #Bengals are signing former #Vikings CB Mackensie Alexander to a one-year, $4 million deal, source said.


I like Alexander


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The above remarks by Barry happened at a particular time in a particular place. It was at a Combine press conference. It was widely reported that during the Combine that a meeting took place between the Browns and Schobert's representation. This makes your statement glaringly untrue.

Please don't argue that the timing of the statement was made before Barry met with Schobert's agent. We simply don't know, unless you have documented proof of when the meeting took place relative to the press conference remarks.

Even a single meeting could be enough to jumpstart stalled negotiations. That did not happen. There was an attempt made to find common ground. It was not successful. Case closed. Move on.


Here's the bottom line in all of this. Neither Berry nor Dorsey were willing to pay anything close to what Joe wanted to stay here. Both knew the asking price. The only difference I can really see, or anyone can actually substantiate, is that Dorsey realized the two sides were too far apart to find a reasonable middle ground. It seems Berry may have touched base with his agent, which doesn't mean there were anything "close to negotiations", and reached the exact same conclusion Dorsey did.

Two FO's, two different GM's, same results.

The bottom line is that Scho is gone and there's a gaping hole. There is no concrete news that Berry and Scho's agent even sat down (that I'm aware of). That's a problem, if true. I guess there's a slim chance that Scho was just "done" and was moving on regardless - in that case - Berry gets a pass. Scho seems to say he knew he was done, take it for what it's worth.

As far as Dorsey goes, I don't know how you can say the price was too high, or they were too far apart, when Scho says they were never in talks and he wasn't even approached.

Was there another player on the roster that deserved more attention ahead of free agency? How do we go through an entire season and never even approach the best player in a position of sub-par play? Was there something in the play of Wilson or Taki that said Joe should sit on the back burner as "expendable"? A little mind-boggling to me.


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So other than speculation, you have nothing to dispute anything I posted. Thanks.


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I like Alexander


I like him too, Bengals got a good deal right there.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
So other than speculation, you have nothing to dispute anything I posted. Thanks.


This is guy from the Schobert conversation.


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You must have missed it, this still is the Schobert conversation.


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Nah.. I don't miss anything. You know that.


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You miss a lot.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
So other than speculation, you have nothing to dispute anything I posted. Thanks.

So, other than actually reading it, you are spot on with my post.

Schobert said "There were no talks, I was never approached, that's when I knew I was leaving Cleveland."

What's so confusing about that?

You can't call my post speculation, you can only call Schobert a liar. Are you saying he's a liar?


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I like the Andrew Billings signing, depth along the Dline was horrid...should be able to give our guys a break here and there.

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Was he a starter?


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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49ers just informed starting guard Mike Person that he is being released, per source. A veteran guard now available.


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He has started, but was a depth cog initially...still rather young, I used to watch a lot of Bengals games...but honestly didnt watch them much last year as they were horrid. Minimum we stole some talent from a division rival.

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Cool thanks


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The #Browns are giving DT Andrew Billings a 1-year deal worth $3.5M fully guaranteed, source said. Some heft on their defensive line from someone theyโ€™ve played against twice a year.


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Schobert said "There were no talks, I was never approached, that's when I knew I was leaving Cleveland."


Why would he hold it against the new FO and coaching staff for anything the old FO and coaching staff did?

Are you trying to say the new group offered him what he wanted and he turned it down? I didn't think so.

If that's true, Joe is a moron.


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Nickel Roby would be nice ... adding with a FS type


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Anyone know of anyone really left at DE that's reasonably priced?

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Why is every regime allergic to Terrance Mitchell?

I'd argue he's our best corner between him, Ward, and Greedy.

Can't we put all three on the field and slide one inside?


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Anyone know of anyone really left at DE that's reasonably priced?


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Anyone know of anyone really left at DE that's reasonably priced?


Derek Wolfe, Everson Griffen, Michael Bennett


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I like Wolf, but figured heโ€™d be more of an interior guys


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I like Wolf, but figured heโ€™d be more of an interior guys


He has that versatility for sure.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG


Two FO's, two different GM's, same results.


Let me start by saying I might be in error. By that, I mean before now I understood you to be placing more blame on the new FO for the Schobert fiasco and Dorsey. Which was unfair IMO.

The above seems to acknowledge at least that each party was unsuccessful in getting a deal done. Who was more accountable for that lack of success seems to be the only remaining point of contention. That's nothing more than conjecture. It can't be proven and is mainly fuel for egos on both sides of the arguement.

Thanks for taking my post in the spirit it was intended.

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Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs
Anyone know of anyone really left at DE that's reasonably priced?


Cam Wake, Ezekiel Ansah, Jabaal Sheard, and many more:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/defensive-end/available/

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Two FO's, two different GM's, same results.


And Jacksonville has one of the least smart front offices.

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Why is every regime allergic to Terrance Mitchell?

I'd argue he's our best corner between him, Ward, and Greedy.

Can't we put all three on the field and slide one inside?


It seems that none of them have the skill set to play in the slot. I'd just keep Mitchell as an insurance policy against injuries.

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