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We'll see what happens. It's less than a month away,

I think signing Kevin Johnson put an end to the drafting a CB talk, we need a LT first then Safety and LB along with run stuffers at DT. I really think after we get our LT our Offense is set and this draft should be all Defense ... JMHO

QB???

If they feel that Baker is the answer at QB, and it seems they do, then you cross that one off the list.

Those 4 positions, all things being equal, are the analytics 1st round Bible, especially in the top 10 ... so that leaves LT, CB, or pass rusher as premiums ... and I bet we take one of these positions in the 1st round.

Lol at saying analytics prioritizes those positions. Those are priority positions for ANY front office team.

That's because the draft site that is used has offers every turn for us to trade down .. but it is almost impossible for someone other than the draft program to trade up.

Except for LT Thomas, they would not be my first choices at those spots, but I would be OK with those picks. I like Thomas in the 1st, Ashtyn Davis, FS, in the 2nd, Logan Wilson, ILB, in the 3rd, followed by whoever else...

10: R1P10 OT TRISTAN WIRFS IOWA
41: R2P9 S ANTOINE WINFIELD MINNESOTA
74: R3P10 LB AKEEM DAVIS-GAITHER APPALACHIAN STATE
97: R3P33 EDGE JABARI ZUNIGA FLORIDA
115: R4P9 G DAMIEN LEWIS LSU

Starting to hink these online simulators must be broken

10: R1P10
OT JEDRICK WILLS
ALABAMA

41: R2P9
S XAIVER MCKINNEY
ALABAMA

74: R3P10
EDGE CURTIS WEAVER
BOISE STATE

97: R3P33
S TERRELL BURGESS
UTAH

115: R4P9
LB TROY DYE
OREGON

187: R6P8
DL KHALIL DAVIS
NEBRASKA

244: R7P30
TE CHEYENNE O'GRADY
ARKANSAS

Nothing like resting the day away...

I'd be quite happy with this draft.

Your score is: 37169 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 18 (MIA): Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville (A+)
Round 1 Pick 31 (S.F.): Patrick Queen, ILB, LSU (A-)
Round 2 Pick 9: Grant Delpit, FS/SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 24 (MIA): Cesar Ruiz, C/OG, Michigan (A)
Round 3 Pick 10: Justin Madubuike, DT, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 3 Pick 33 (COMP): Willie Gay Jr., OLB, Miss. State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 9: Geno Stone, FS/SS, Iowa (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Harrison Hand, CB, Temple (A+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Antonio Gibson, WR, Memphis (A+)

Every time I see Queen mocked to us I’m glad .. I like the idea of Becton, Queen, and Delpit ... great

Using the First Pick site (where that was from), the system offers you trades when your pick is up, or an option to initiate a trade. You can also try to trade up on another teams pick, but unless it's overwhelmingly in favor of the other team, it won't be accepted, and once your offer is rejected, the system proceeds without letting you improve your offer.

Round 1 Pick 10: Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 15 (ATL): Antoine Winfield Jr., FS/SS, Minnesota (A-)
Round 3 Pick 14 (ATL): Willie Gay Jr., OLB, Miss. State (A)
Round 3 Pick 15 (NYJ): Troy Dye, ILB/OLB, Oregon (A+)
Round 3 Pick 33 (COMP): Davon Hamilton, DT, Ohio St. (A+)
Round 4 Pick 14 (NYJ): Jauan Jennings, WR, Tennessee (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30 (G.B.): K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio St. (A+)
Round 4 Pick 37 (ATL): Alex Highsmith, DE/DT, Charlotte (A+)
Round 5 Pick 13 (L.V.): Cam Brown, OLB, Penn St. (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Larrell Murchison, DT, NC State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 30 (G.B.): Robert Landers, DT, Ohio St. (A+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Colton McKivitz, OT, West Virginia (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2021 Round 1 Pick
2022 Round 1 Pick

Ala Draft Day

Offensive tackle no matter what

Full 7-round Browns mock draft: Spring Break edition
https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/04/full-7-round-browns-mock-draft-spring-break-edition/

It’s Spring Break for most school districts right now, though with buildings closed it’s hard to tell much of a difference. Spring Break means the NFL Draft is coming very soon, and that means it’s time for an updated Browns mock draft.

These projections are the players I believe the Browns would take in the given situations. They do not necessarily represent the choices I would make at the given picks, though in the later rounds my own preferences do hold influence.

For context with the first pick at No. 10 overall, I simulated the first nine picks 20 times at The Draft Network and averaged out the players’ draft positions. The results:

1 – Joe Burrow

2 – Chase Young

3 – Jeff Okudah

4 – Mekhi Becton

5 – Tua Tagovailoa

6 – Justin Herbert

7 – Isaiah Simmons

8 – Tristan Wirfs

9 – Derrick Brown

The No. 10 pick is going to be an offensive tackle, more than likely. With South Carolina DT Javon Kinlaw still on the board I do think Browns GM Andrew Berry and his draft crew will at least discuss taking him. The same would be true if Clemson LB Isaiah Simmons, whose draft slot appears quite volatile, is still there. But unless the Browns make a move for Trent Williams, left tackle has to be the top priority.

Becton and Wirfs, my top two choices personally for the No. 10 pick, are gone. That leaves Andrew Thomas, Jedrick Wills and Josh Jones as the viable options for the Browns. My belief is the Browns would target Wills in that scenario as the best fit for Kevin Stefanski’s offense and the higher floor.

I don’t see this Browns regime being overly enamored with Thomas and his technical inconsistencies he showed at Georgia, not over what Wills showed at Alabama anyway. Jones is very intriguing but is the least NFL-ready, a rough gamble for a Browns team built to win right now. In a trade back, or if the Browns land Trent Williams in a trade to buy a year or two, I think Jones becomes much more viable.

The pick: Jedrick Wills, OT Alabama

Second round
With offensive tackle now situated, it’s time to bolster some other positions with more long-term youth and potential. Linebacker, wide receiver, cornerback, interior offensive line and safety all are needs to varying degrees.

This is where the concept of positional value and draft value comes into play. At 41, there is still great depth at WR and IOL. There are good talents available, but little differentiates the players available here and those that could be had a round or two later. So for now, I cross those off for Berry & Co. in this edition.

Linebacker and cornerback do have a bit more of a dropoff. But the biggest dropoff in talent projected available here versus what will be available at the next Browns pick is at safety. While the team did (smartly) sign Karl Joseph and Andrew Sendejo, the depth remains weak. Sendejo is a one-year veteran stopgap, and Joseph comes with durability concerns. It’s a great time to snag a safety with developmental upside and athletic promise.

Enter Jeremy Chinn. He physically dominated the competition at the FCS level at Southern Illinois. He needs technical refinement and experience at more advanced coverage concepts, but the athleticism is abundant. He can play right away in basic zone coverage and he’s ready in run defense and blitzing concepts in the “hang” safety role, something that Joe Woods’ defenses have used in prior stops.

The pick: Jeremy Chinn, S, Southern Illinois

Third round
First pick: Davon Hamilton, DT, Ohio State

Second pick: Ezra Cleveland, OT, Boise State

I wrote about Hamilton recently and his potential to fit with the Browns’ new defensive scheme. From the piece,

He’s a smart interior presence with quick feet and good balance through contact as he pursues the play.

If Hamilton can get more creative in his pass-rush arsenal, he has the athleticism to become a pretty good interior rusher.

Cleveland to Cleveland is cheeky, but he’s exactly the type of developmental offensive tackle to take in this range. The movement skills and footwork are there, but Cleveland must add functional strength and power to his repertoire before he can hope to hold up in the NFL. He’d take over the Drew Forbes role as the redshirt tackle while Forbes completes his transformation inside.

Fourth round
The pick: Devin Duvernay, WR, Texas

Duvernay was a wildly productive slot receiver who improved his all-around game as a senior. He’s a bull with the ball in his hands and does a great job catching the ball away from his body and instantly transitioning from receiver to runner. Duvernay would make a great inside complement to Odell Beckham Jr. with his dynamic speed and running skills. He’s not a player who will reliably win with agility or precision.

Fifth round
The Browns traded their fifth-round pick to the Bills

Sixth round
The pick: Ron’Dell Carter, EDGE, James Madison

Carter transferred from Rutgers and was a big hit with FCS power JMU. He racked up numerous national honors after posting 12 sacks and 27.5 TFLs as a redshirt senior. He’s 6-3 and a long-armed 269 pounds and proved during the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl week he could win both inside and outside. In the two FCS playoff games I watched, Carter jumped out with his length and motor off the edge.

The Browns did check Carter out during the season, albeit under the John Dorsey regime at the time.

Seventh round
The pick: David Woodward, LB, Utah State

An early entrant who would likely be a round or two higher if he hadn’t suffered a season-ending injury. Great football IQ, very good tackler, but a limited athlete with some durability concerns.

Like the picks, although there is no way Cleveland lasts until 3rd round.

With those picks ... whose gonna be our lbers? ...

That’d be one glaring arse big hole ...

agreed

Just curious .... how far off your big board do u go to get a LBer in the first two rounds? ...

Do u think that need is big enough for going 4 or 5 or more spots down your big board for a LBer in the first 2 rounds this year ...

My one and only mock ... because while fun, there is no reality here!

I got a C+ grade but man I'd love this haul!

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 22 (MINN): Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (A+)
Round 1 Pick 25 (MINN): Zack Baun, OLB/DE, Wisconsin (B+)
Round 2 Pick 9: Ashtyn Davis, SS/FS, California (A)
Round 2 Pick 26 (MINN): Damien Lewis, OG, LSU (B)
Round 3 Pick 10: Justin Madubuike, DT, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 3 Pick 25 (MINN): Michael Ojemudia, CB, Iowa (A+)
Round 3 Pick 33 (COMP): Javaris Davis, CB, Auburn (A)
Round 4 Pick 9: Trevis Gipson, DE, Tulsa (B-)
Round 6 Pick 8: Shaquille Quarterman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.) (B+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Aaron Fuller, WR, Washington (A+)

Jc

I know he wont be our first pick, but I’d move up in the 2nd to get Queen from LSU

I expect he'll be a late 1st round pick and he's the sort of player who'll go on to have a great career and people will look back on the draft and wonder how so many teams let him go without drafting him.

I agree

Thought this was an interesting listen

Thomas won't last until pick 22.

I would NEVER EVER go 4-5 spots down my board to draft for need. Now, there is a caveat. If those 4 guys were separated by less than a .1 of a point, then you can draft for need. However, that isn't how the grades end up.

Bro, the "smart" thing is to think long-term. Draft the BPA almost all the time. Think of it like this. You are investing in your long-term future. You buy stocks that will pay handsome dividends over a long period of time.

Most football guys know this. Some do a much better job of sticking to that plan than others. The problem comes from GMs or powerful HCs who know they have to win now to keep their jobs. So, they forego the future and draft for need. They are hoping to win games in the short term to save their jobs. Meanwhile, they are mortgaging the long-term future of the organization.

See, this is one of the areas where I value analytical thinking. I am not sure our analytics guys have done a good job in that particular area in the past.

I understand what your saying ... and agree with it for the most part ...

I’m just not sure what the solution is at LBer if we don’t draft at least 1 real early ... like ends 1 or 2 ...

Were ready to win now ... we clearly need major help at LBer ... right now as far as i can tell Mack is our best one ... am I missing something ...

Was just curious as to what your thoughts were and if or when you’d be willing to move away from BPA ...

And bro ... until KJ none of our mgmt. has been any good at anything ... *L* .... even Sashi made a few major analytical mistakes in FA and just some horrible draft picks ....

I understand your concern. I just really believe in long-term solutions rather drafting for need.

It's too late now, but they should have kept Joe and maybe even Kirko. Not sure about the latter, though. I wish Dorsey would have re-signed Joe during the year. I wish the new FO would have worked out a deal w/him. I think this is a major fail. But, maybe we will get lucky and a guy will fall to us in a spot where he is worthy of being picked.

Analytically speaking, I think that it is intelligent to address needs through FA and trades and use long-term planning in the draft by drafting BPA.

One thing we'll miss w/Dorsey is how he worked trades. Our WRs were pathetic. He traded a 4th round pick for Landry. LMAO.........that was a steal. He then trades Peppers [an in the box SS] and a first round pick for OBJ. Two steals.

He trades the incompetent Kizer for Randall. The latter did flame out here, but Kizer is never going to be a good qb.

He got draft picks for chumps like Hogan, Kessler, Corey Coleman, etc.

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 10: Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina (A)
Round 2 Pick 9: Ezra Cleveland, OT, Boise St. (A)
Round 3 Pick 10: Logan Wilson, OLB/ILB, Wyoming (B)
Round 3 Pick 33 (COMP): Jeremy Chinn, FS/SS, S. Illinois (A+)
Round 4 Pick 9: Van Jefferson, WR, Florida (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Harrison Hand, CB, Temple (A+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Davion Taylor, OLB, Colorado (A+)

I’d like Kinlaw and Cleveland

I know that its just a pipe dream, but it is still likely.

Round 1 Pick 10: Jedrick Wills Jr., OT, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 9: Ross Blacklock, DT, TCU (A+)
Round 3 Pick 13 (DEN): Antoine Winfield Jr., FS/SS, Minnesota (A+)
Round 3 Pick 33 (COMP): Jonah Jackson, OG, Ohio St. (A+)
Round 4 Pick 12 (DEN): K'Von Wallace, FS/SS, Clemson (A+)
Round 4 Pick 14 (NYJ): Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty (A+)
Round 5 Pick 12 (NYJ): K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio St. (A+)
Round 5 Pick 32 (DEN): Kindle Vildor, CB, Ga. Southern (A+)
Round 6 Pick 8: Raequan Williams, DT, Michigan St. (A+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Raymond Calais, RB, Louisiana (A+)

Like the draft but couldn't land a decent linebacker.

j/c...

Hmm