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The other thread is 11 pages deep. I thought I would stick w/the movie/book theme for the title.

Outbreak was an intense movie back in the day. It starred Dustin Hoffman, Morgan Freeman, Cuba Gooding Jr, Rene Russo, Donald Sutherland, Kevin Spacy, and Patrick Dempsey.

It was based on Richard Preston's nonfiction book: The Hot Zone.

Let's keep the conversation going.

Denzel Ward to cover biggest monthly expense for 21 Clevelanders out of work due to coronavirus pandemic - cleveland.com
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/04...s-pandemic.html

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Denzel Ward has made a name for himself covering the NFL’s best receivers, but this month, he’ll make you know his name for a more noble reason.

A native of Cleveland, the Browns cornerback will pay the biggest monthly expense for 21 people out of work in his hometown because of the coronavirus epidemic.

“It’s unique for me because the community I’m fortunate enough to play for is the community that helped raise me my entire life,” said Ward, who wears the No. 21. “So to help your neighbors in a time when they might be struggling is just a no-brainer.”

Ward will target 21 service workers and small business owners who have lost their jobs. He wanted to help in the most practical way he could, by relieving people of their largest financial burden for a month.

“Whether that’s rent or mortgage, or just groceries for your family, I want someone to breathe a little easier knowing that’s taken care of this month,” Ward explained.

Through his Make Them Know Your Name (MTKYN) foundation, Ward and his team will choose 21 recipients after reviewing applications submitted through the link on the MTKYN website.

“It’s important to me that people know they’re not alone in this,’’ Ward said. “We’re all in this together. That’s the Ohio way.”

Ward joins other Browns players such as Baker Mayfield, Myles Garrett and Larry Ogunjobi, who have all donated to those in Northeast Ohio impacted by COVID-19.

Mayfield and his wife, Emily, donated $50,000 to the Greater Cleveland Food Bank and teamed up with TownHall Restaurant to help maintain the meal delivery program for the St. Augustine Hunger Center. Garrett joined forces with local business to provide 24,000 pounds of food to the needy, and Ogunjobi donated 100,000 meals through the Greater Cleveland Foodbank.

Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam also donated $1.5 million to COVID-19 relief efforts in Ohio.

For more information or to apply, visit www.MTKYN.org or follow along on Make Them Know Your Name’s social channels.

Nice job by all the Brown's players who have decided to help others. Same goes for the Haslams.

I think I saw that on Netflix, but I don't want to watch those kind of movies right now. I have to work and I struggle with trying to stay healthy so I can go to the store and provide for my 94 year old mom and my 73 year old sister who lives there taking care of mom.

I have a R95 respirator I carry in my car. I have to use them for the extremely Hazardous chemicals I work with on a daily bases. So I put it on when I go in the store to buy them food. I sanitize all the packages and put on gloves before i drop them off at the back door.

I go to the front window and wave to mom and tell her I love her. My father passed 10 years ago and I'm the youngest and only son out of 5 children.

So I work come home stay to myself. I'm catching up on reading and watching Netflix. The thing I don't understand is I love to work out..But I haven't been able to bring myself to.

I guess I'm rambling on..But being alone every night I talk to friends but sometimes It feels good to come on here and say hi.

Maybe I'll check out the movie. I seem to remember watching it. Surely has some good actors in it. Just when I get home from all the craziness of my day.. I just want to forget about the outbreak and think about something else that brings a little joy and light into my life.

I pray and hope all on this board are safe and healthy.

I really like your post, bro.

Not sure why.............but, probably because it so very human. It effectively captures our hopes, fears, concerns, doubt, and the great unknown in such language that every common man can relate to it.

Hang in there, bro. When this over, I'll drive back up to Ohio and we'll drink a beer and I'll punch you in the nose for some of your comments in the past. Then, I'll buy you another beer.

Just another note. all 3 of my daughters are having car issues. I had my Youngest daughters Jeep in the shop today. My middle daughter dropped her Nitro off tonight and my oldest daughter is dropping hers off tomorrow. The owner of the shop is taking 20 percent off the parts because of the covid 19.

He also sanitizes the car puts the keys in it and I pay over the phone. My daughters just go pick up the car. I really like how he's doing buisness.

That's classic bro. lmao. Good stuff, thanks for the laugh!

If you've been following my posts, Ny State, # of cases,

Today, first of April, (no foolin intended) Cases, 83,712.

ok, that's up 7917 from yesterday, increase of 10.45% from the 75,795 cases yesterday,

which was up 13% from the 66,497 cases 3,30th, two days ago,

59,513 the day before that,

So, could be, NY ran out of test kits, or somehow stopped testing, (with faster processing newer tests I doubt this assumption holds water)

Or, Every single case is not infecting 2.? other people as it did in the beginning, as much,

Because the Rate, the percentage increase of new cases in the State of NY, from the existing number of cases, confirmed in the state of NY, is clearly trending downward.

sigh,

As bad as the news is, as bad as they tell you,
If you go by the spread rate of just 4-5 days ago, that 83,712 number would be about 140,000, up from about 117,000, and 30% per day, pushing 185K tomorrow, I figure.

Vers.. I'm scared for so many people. I hope it doesn't get as bad as they say it will. And right now..I feel we have to put our differences away and support and love each other to get through this.

And seriously you punch away. I can't wait to feel another human .
And I pray for and thank your wife. And all the ones on here who work in the Medical field Police firemen grocery workers gas station workers for all of you and the ones we don't know.. Thank you..be safe and be healthy.

Just to be clear..............I loved Deisel's post and I talked about that in the first part of my reply. It was a very human response.

The last part was me just goofing around and trying to throw some humor in there.

There were two separate things going on. I think you get that, but just want to make sure Deisel and others do, as well.

Bro, you will always be my friend even when I wanna break your face. It's like brothers. You fight. You pick each other up. You love.

Thanks for the comment about my wife. I am very worried. She won't retire. Says she has to help others. Plus, we are responsible for helping other folks make ends meet.

I'm no expert, but I am a pretty good reader. And bro, it's probably going to get pretty bad. Prepare the best you can. Instruct your loved ones to do the same.

We can get through this. We'll need plenty of education, self-discipline, helping hands, restraint, love, and good-will to get through this silent killer.

I truly hope that people decide to come together rather than throw political stones. Hang in there, bro!

Fate every time I get suspended from this board. It's because me going off on Vers..lol Vers and I know a lot of the same people because he was a local boy here in Stark County.And I really do care about Vers. He is a good guy.all of you are.

Why we don't get along isn't the issue right now. I met you tailgating and I absolutely love you man.

This covid 19 thing is like... I'd rather care about someone then to hear about... well you know..

Your always going to be one of those people I'm so glad I got to meet...

Be safe and Healthy my good friend.

Geez, get a room you putzes!

But he might have a virus

We’re all being effected by this. Many times in huge ways, loss of loved ones. Other times what appears from the outside as smaller things. None the less these things cut into us.

Today I made a choice to stop going to the studio to make art. I spent yesterday evening welding and fabricating. When I got home I felt selfish for being there. I thought a lot about it. I slept on it. This morning I texted my creative partner and let him know.
It’s just me and him in the shop. We’ve kept the big door open to keep air moving. I’ve been wearing a mask... that said I’d never be able to forgive myself if he, his wife, or daughter were to get ill because of me and my nursing career that puts me at risk. It’s heartbreaking as our studio is my sanctuary away from all this. Art is my passion. My reprieve. I’ll now retreat to my home and pull out my pencils, pens, and paper and put my creative energy to use in a different way. One that scratches the itch but doesn’t fulfill me the way working with steel does.
Stay home everyone. Even when it hurts. Hurt can be wrapped in many packages.
My last photo from my studio...

Which leads me to............we are well-stocked on supplies, but I am starting a ton of new home repairs. I have been painting. I am putting in new pavers in my landscaping. I am doing fence repair.......God, how I hate that at 63 years old.

Anyway, I decided to venture out today to get the sand and pavers. While I was out, I went to the liquor store and bought a lot more beer and wine. I then went to Target and scored some hand sanitizer. They had about 20. Asked customers to limit to one per person. This crazy lady grabbed seven of them right beside me. Started yelling about how it was unfair to charge so much. I pointed to the sign and said there was a limit of one per person. She said: "f... that." I'm getting mines." I said I would like to get more, too..........but others need the product as well. She snorted and stomped off.

I then went to Publix and bought more supplies. It's crazy because most people kept their distance and there were messages over the speaker system in 5 minute intervals about keeping your 6 foot social distancing and how we are all in this together. However, some people completely ignored all of it. I was grabbing some olive oil and these two ladies came right up to me and went shoulder to shoulder and grabbed the ones that were on sale. This crap went on and on and on.

It amazes me how rude so many folks are.

j/c...

Interesting article.

The tale of two coronavirus curves: How bad could it have been?
By Doug Livingston
Beacon Journal
Posted at 5:18 PM Updated at 6:06 PM

In an alternate version of this pandemic, the novel coronavirus came and went — crashing through Ohio in a single, calamitous tidal wave.

New daily cases peaked at 61,687 on March 22 (instead of the 79 actually reported that day) and fell below 1,000 by April 2. The virus burnt itself out, like a raging forest fire fueled by people instead of trees.

In this other reality, Ohioans did nothing as hospitals buckled and morgues filled up.

Businesses stayed open. Workers increasingly called in sick.

A respiratory infection with symptoms ranging from unnoticeable to barely breathing spread from music concerts and high school basketball games to infiltrate households and neighborhoods.

Short on sanitized medical supplies, infected health care workers clocked out from fatigue and fever. Hospitals prioritized treatment over testing, which — like an effective viral therapy — wasn’t available.

More so than the reality to come, triage determined who got intensive care or sent home to weather this alone.

“Without any social distancing or business closures, we would have doomed health care workers and hospitals to being able to treat only a small fraction of the sick,” Dr. Summer Johnson McGee, dean at the School of Health Science at the University of New Haven in Connecticut, told the Beacon Journal. “Without aggressive action, the U.S. might have seen hundreds of thousands or even a million people unable to get care dying in makeshift hospitals or at home.”

What sounds like a dystopian science fiction novel was the worst-case scenario modeled by academic researchers after the first case of COVID-19 hit Ohio in February.

With relatively little testing data from a never-before-studied novel strain of coronavirus, this early model led Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine to announce the first statewide school closure order in America. Before publicly announcing the first cases on March 9, DeWine tapped sweeping emergency powers to cancel major sporting or recreational events and delay a presidential primary election.

The modeling by researchers at Ohio State University’s Infectious Diseases Institute continues. The towering do-nothing curve flattened as if the tidal wave hit a breakwall of social distancing, business closures, travel restrictions and vigilant personal hygiene.

Somewhere between the extreme realities of absolute ignorance and the most stringent precautions in America, Ohio measures sacrifice in the differing heights and timing of two curves.

“I’ve said this before, look at Italy. Their health system has been completely overwhelmed for a long period of time,” said Jim Simon, Cleveland Clinic Medical Director of Enterprise Analytics, which is modeling the spread in Summit and other counties served by the hospital system. “Look at the travails that New York City is going through, the poor health care workers who’ve been infected in those hospitals.

“I really credit Gov. DeWine for getting on top of this early and implementing these social distancing restrictions.”

With the worst scenario averted, the worst days are still ahead. The new curve from OSU researchers predicts days with more than 1,000 new cases statewide to begin Sunday and last 44 days instead of already ending Tuesday after 20 calamitous days of laissez-faire response.

Now with private sector unemployment spiking, Congress unleashing $6.2 trillion in stimulus and local governments furloughing workers to preempt tax revenue shortfalls, researchers are being asked, when is it time to relax this extreme social distancing?

Again, there are two extremes.

Academics at Stanford University suggest an indefinite quarantine of only elderly and vulnerable people until a vaccine is available. A Harvard University team advocates the current path of indiscriminate and statewide stay-at-home orders.

Both sides agree that more testing and time is needed to determine whether either is correct.

“This is a great point of contention at the moment,” said Angelo DeLucia, a Northeast Ohio Medical University professor with a Ph.D. in molecular virology. “I’m basically waiting to hear what our experts who have been studying this for a long time have to say. Right now, they’ve come down on mitigating this virus into extinction rather than [relaxing social distancing restrictions] county by county. Although clearly more testing could change our thoughts about this.”

Coronaviruses were discovered in the 1960s but not known to leap from animals to humans until about 2002, DeLucia said. Around that time, one country learned the consequences of hastily returning to normal life.

After the worst of the Sars-COV-1 pandemic in 2002 and 2003, Vietnam maintained strict social distancing. “It basically went away,” DeLucia said.

The same scenario played out in Canada, he said. “Then you almost had a week where they didn’t have the virus. They became complacent. And they had a second wave in Toronto.”

Should new daily cases drop close to zero (as the OSU model predicts sometime in June or later), there remains the possibility that the virus mutates. But DeLucia said early evidence suggests that this novel coronavirus has undergone relatively few changes compared to more adaptive viruses like influenza or HIV.

Health experts from academia and private industry stress that modeling and the consequential predictions they generate are only as good as the numbers they rely on.

Mortality and the rate at which the infection doubles in a population can differ widely from one country, state or city to the next. Slightly different figures loaded into the same model can produce varied predictions.

Even Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, is unable to say whether his national estimate for total COVID-19 deaths will be closer to 100,000 or 200,000. “He couldn’t specify,” DeLucia said. “And he uses great precision when he talks.”

Testing that is not uniform, let alone universal, makes for even less reliable modeling. Some hospitals are not testing as robustly as others due to resource availability, said Simon. His modeling informing preparations at the Cleveland Clinic relies on daily hospitalizations instead of confirmed cases, which OSU researchers use.

Considering no action to slow the spread, Simon’s team projected 8,000 new daily cases in Cleveland Clinic facilities by mid-May. With only 29% of the local market share, the impact on the 21-county area, which includes Summit, would have peaked at about 27,500 new daily patients.

Instead, his modeling now assumes 2,700 additional daily Cleveland Clinic patients (9,300 for the 21-county region) by mid-June with 40% adherence to social distancing or 5,400 new daily Cleveland Clinic patients (18,600 for the region) by late May with only 20% social distancing.

The hospital system is tuned to the more conservative estimate, “hoping for the best and preparing for the worst,” Simon said.

https://www.beaconjournal.com/news/20200...ld-it-have-been

You are a good man, Port!

Outbreak, great movie. Hopefully, the government does get the idea to bomb the whole town like they were going to do to Cedar Creek!

Yikes.

Portland do you solder ? When I was a kid back in the 60's 70's a neighbor had a weld shop. But he did art also. He would make some really cool stuff soldering. Using nails and smaller metal to melt solder over things or create a figure.

Don't feel selfish... Hope you get through this okay. Thank you

Oh, I'm pretty aggressive about telling people to back away when I'm at work

The only thing I solder is electrical wire when we run custom electrical lighting and such in our creations. I use to silversmith in college. Soldering jewelry pieces. But it’s been years. I don’t have the torches and tools for that type of work. I use plasma cutters, stick and wire welders now. Big tools to make big art.

Go to your shop and grab a few pieces of steel, an angle grinder, a wheel grinder, some files, belt/disk sander, sandpaper, and buffing polish and make a few quality knives at home bro. That's a small space project that's fulfilling and might be just what the doctor calls for. Just trying to help.

EDIT: You'll need a propane torch and a coffee can full of oil to heat treat and quench too... Lots of good over the shoulder tutorials on youtube for ideas.

The two separate things are what made it so funny. The second beer after slugging him was hilarious. I knew he would get a kick out of it.

Same here bro. You're a class act, I'm glad I stumbled up on the tailgate and hung out with you a few times - we're a lot alike. Just make sure you make it up to some games this year. If you need a ticket let me know.

I'm not taking anything for granted anymore. Not in the "day to day", and not in eying the future. This whole thing really starts to hit you once you get past the sheer lunacy... I think we're all getting there right about now.

Stay safe bro.

J/C

Good on Denzel Ward and Portland ... good work guys!!

First thing that I thought of is all those guys are on their rookie deals... not poor by any stretch but also haven't gotten those 2nd contracts that come with the Scrooge McDuck gold coin pool. Just a little context with those donations.


Diesle,
Thanks for posting, especially those earlier posts. I'll admit that I was way more positive than I should have been going into this whole mess. I was looking forward to working from home, being forced to cook more and exercise more at home. Looking forward to having more time for home projects and such. Totally oblivious to the real impact of this thing beyond stupid, selfish stuff.

j/c

America had over 950 coronavirus deaths in a single day reported yesterday.

You know, I knew that was coming. I know those death rates will probably be going up. I thought I had myself prepared for that sort of news when it came. But alas I didn't. Last night was the first time I had serious trouble sleeping in a very long time. I don't expect that to be unusual moving forward.

I agree. It was actually 1000 deaths over 24 hours.

I was legit shook, bro. There’s gonna be a lot of families suffering, and it’s heart breaking.

We have now sustained more deaths due to the virus than the total US casualties in Iraq, both military and DoD civilian.

Speaking of hot zones, I have no clue what is going on in Mahoning County. I know I have only left the house 4 times since March 18th to run to the grocery stores of pharmacy, and twice to go for motorcycle rides. (totally alone on the bike and not within 10 feet of anybody) With all of my health problems I really can't afford to catch this crap.

https://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/20...-case-rate.html

The godfather of someone I know passed away yesterday from it. Other members of the godfather's family have it as well, though none are in serious condition with it from what I gathered.

We've had someone in the building I work in have it. other people across my agency have had it... It's only a matter of time before I directly know someone.

Fortunately it has been almost a month since I had to go physically into the office. My wife leaves for work every day but she's not in contact with many people. Other than a few tasks in the morning she could work from home; however at the point she's already been there and any interaction she has with people is pretty much over. We haven't had to go get groceries in a few weeks, but this weekend we will have to do that. I won't lie, I am slightly nervous about it.

That's why so many of us were trying to get you to change your way of thinking. It sounds as if your actions were much safer than the impression I got of your attitude about the situation on FB. I mean I'm fully aware we are all going to die of something. Yet all of us try to avoid death when and where we can.

But many of us have been saying that there isn't a safe place. Certainly it just makes sense that the most populace places will be hit the hardest at first. But it only spreads outwards from there. I saw a report last night that stated two rural counties in Georgia are rated 3rd and 4th per capita in virus deaths.

Everyone everywhere needs to be safe. I'm glad to hear that you are being safe my friend. Even as much as some of us on here spar in the political forum, I never take those things personally. And as much as I hope and pray for my own family, I also hope and pray everyone in our Dawgtalker family stays safe in our world that keeps getting harder to do with each passing day.

That number is really not as bad as I expected, even just a half a week ago. Now if you said, "Columbus" had over 950 deaths in a single day, I'd understand,

but, better to be underwhelmed.
I'm hopeful, because I think this virus may be wrapping up, not ramping up,
a few more days data might tell the story.

Believe what ya wanna believe.

I strongly doubt that it is, but I hope you're right.

I believe the statistics as they come out. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Considering the daily increases in the # of overall cases and deaths, i don't think we're anywhere near the end of this, and its just now about to take off... I appreciate your optimism.

Wear a mask when you go out. If you don’t have an N95, use a makeshift mask. A scarf, a tshirt, whatever you have. If you can, fold it in a way that you can put a layer of vacuum cleaner bag material between the folded layers. Be diligent about what you touch. Only touch it if you plan on buying it. Take your mask off only when back in your car. Sanitize your hands. Bring stuff home. Take off your shoes before you enter. Set your groceries down. Wash your hands. Quarantine what you can of your groceries. Wipe down/wash what you can’t quarantine. Be smart about touching surfaces as you’re putting your groceries away... the fridge handle, the meat drawer handle, etc. Wipe those surfaces down when done. Wash your hands. Go enjoy the rest of your day.
Be smart. Be safe.







Wash your hands.