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Lamar still is not a passer the reason the Ravens are one and done in playoffs is cause their Run policy with a top echelon team that games plans well just does not cut it. Once down and they cannot run anymore they are done!
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Every team is looking to improve.
Last year is history. Lots of decisions go into roster decisions every year for every team.
The Ravens changed gears when they drafted Lamar. Flacco a stationary pocket passer who threw deep balls was moved. Greg Roman was brought in and designed on offense around Lamar based upon the run and RPO's.
They exploded and Lamar won the MVP. They are now going into their second year with that offense and Lamar. The personnel decisions made by the Ravens going forward will be based upon getting better in all facets. Safe to say I expect them be very good.
It is up to the Browns to catch them.
I like the moves in free agency. Hooper and Conklin were solid adds that will improve the team.
But let's get real here. They won eight games more than we did last year. The Ravens are not changing their coaching staff. We are. They know they can win. We don't know if we can.
In fact we don't know crap about our coaching staff. We are just hoping they are better than Freddie and his staff.
We have talent. We had talent last year and didn't go to far.
It is up to KS and staff to make a difference. We need full season production from Baker, Odell, and Myles.
We have to play better team defense. That means consistency not just flashes of great play.
Until proven otherwise the Ravens are the team to beat.
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I agree. I think last year was Coaching, QB, and a whole bunch of other stuff... in that order.
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In fact we don't know crap about our coaching staff. We are just hoping they are better than Freddie and his staff.
I agree w/this. On one hand, I think it would be hard to be worse than Freddie. On the hand, Stef is a first-time HC w/not much experience as an OC. Seems very similar to Freddie in the experience department. I'm not making any predictions. I am just saying that the coaching is the great unknown right now. Much like it was last year.
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I think it would be hard to be worse than Freddie. Never misunderestimate the Browns, or challenge them by saying they couldn't possibly get worse.
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What’s not real here .... - Did we not whoop them once last year ... - did we not improve quite a bit with Conk & Hoop - were we not the worst coached team in the league last year ... it ranks with the all time worst jobs ever ... - bake is the key ... I get Kev is an unproven 1st timer ... but there’s no way he can be as bad as my boy was ... same with the staffs ... Wilkes sucked almost as bad as Freddie ... I’m being just as real as u are ... Just approaching reality from a much different angle than u ...
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Unfortunately, I been practicing social distancing since last Sept on the Isle ... *L* ...
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25 years ago today is 1995 not 1996. The Browns played in Cleveland 1995. It was 24 years ago not 25. Count the years individually. It was 25 years ago ..... which started prior to the 1996 season. I think you are simply subtracting 1996 from 2000, and coming up with the idea that it is only 4 years, when it is, in fact, 5. (1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000)
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Unfortunately, I been practicing social distancing since last Sept on the Isle ... *L* ... Does it require taking a cruise ship to get there?
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03/29/1996 + 25 years = 03/29/2021.
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03/29/1996 + 25 years = 03/29/2021. Which means that the 25th anniversary is as stated.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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OK, let's go through this one year at a time ......
1-1996 2-1997 3-1998 4-1999 5-2000 6-2001 7-2002 8-2003 9-2004 10-2005 11-2006 12-2007 13-2008 14-2009 15-2010 16-2011 17-2012 18-2013 19-2014 20-2015 21-2016 22-2017 23-2018 24-2019 25-2020
25 years.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Apparently Y-town went to the Baltimore School of Counting....sorry man, but your math is wrong. You can't count 2020 if you are counting 1996.
Think of it this way...the Ravens have played 24 seasons - 1996 to 2019. The 2020 season hasn't happened yet. It is impossible to have your 25th anniversary while only playing 24 seasons.
Let think of it this way, counting backward:
2020 to 2019 - 1 2019 to 2018 - 2 2018 to 2017 - 3 2017 to 2016 - 4 2016 to 2015 - 5 2015 to 2014 - 6 2014 to 2013 - 7 2013 to 2012 - 8 2012 to 2011 - 9 2011 to 2010 - 10 2010 to 2009 - 11 2009 to 2008 - 12 2008 to 2007 - 13 2007 to 2006 - 14 2006 to 2005 - 15 2005 to 2004 - 16 2004 to 2003 - 17 2003 to 2002 - 18 2002 to 2001 - 19 2001 to 2000 - 20 2000 to 1999 - 21 1999 to 1998 - 22 1998 to 1997 - 23 1997 to 1996 - 24 years
This is the start of their 25th anniversary season, but it is not their 25th anniversary, like the tweet stated.
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So this is what the corona does? Got grown men arguing over years of existence over another football team.
Can’t wait til we can go outside again.
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25 years ago today was March 31, 1995 .. and Model's Browns were in Cleveland.
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Don't forget as the EASY part of our schedule came up we lost Garrett. Anyone who didn't see a BIG TIME DROP in our game when we lost Garrett don't know football.
Outside of Baker the most important player on our team and it ain't even close. He is a difference maker!
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and still, another math wizard.
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03/29/1996 + 25 years = 03/29/2021. Which means that the 25th anniversary is as stated. If they had stated this was their 25th season they'd be correct, however the tweet said 25 years ago today which is 100% incorrect.
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Agreed. If we can get someone opposite Myles to rush the passer it will make him even more effective. I feel we need a few more pieces on D. A SS, LB or 2 and another run stopping DL and we can have an elite D.
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So this is what the corona does? Got grown men arguing over years of existence over another football team.
Can’t wait til we can go outside again. And is still not the most inane conversation we've had.
How does a league celebrating its 100th season only recognize the 53 most recent championships?
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Some of us were trying to prepare you for what was to come.
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So this is what the corona does? Got grown men arguing over years of existence over another football team.
Can’t wait til we can go outside again. And is still not the most inane conversation we've had. Like many debates on the planet, both sides are actually correct based on their perspective.
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Like a wild card in the poker hand in a game with multiple wild cards or suits called by a dealer. You may know what you have for straight up poker hand in front of you, but the wild card or cards can totally upset things. I hope we have some 'wild' magic in this staff that can really upset some opponents. Being unknown can be an advantage, but only at first. Go, coaches. Stef up!
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I think Lamar is going to get hurt for a 3-4 game stretch next year.
I think the Ravens will be good but not nearly as good as last year. If I had to guess, I would say that they go 11-5.
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Predicting injury is hard to do.
The one thing I have noticed about Lamar is like Russell Wilson he doesn't take direct hits.
The odds are though eventually; he will get hurt.
Griffin should be able to step in and execute their offense.
Winning 14 games is a real task for any team. But until a team in the North proves otherwise they are the champs.
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I wonder how many games has Lamar missed due to injuries in college and the pros?
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And actually no arguing. Just explaining.
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What’s not real here .... - Did we not whoop them once last year ... - did we not improve quite a bit with Conk & Hoop - were we not the worst coached team in the league last year ... it ranks with the all time worst jobs ever ... - bake is the key ... I get Kev is an unproven 1st timer ... but there’s no way he can be as bad as my boy was ... same with the staffs ... Wilkes sucked almost as bad as Freddie ... I’m being just as real as u are ... Just approaching reality from a much different angle than u ... I agree. I look at it like this...was Baker of last year a fluke or was his rookie year a fluke? Last years O was messed up from the get go. I think we see big improvements. Not sure if we win a whole lot more if the D doesn't improve. Expecting to score 38 every week is a stretch.
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Not sure if we win a whole lot more if the D doesn't improve. Expecting to score 38 every week is a stretch. The D would improve immensely if the O could stay on the field just an average amount of time. Stay tuned.
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I also think it bodes well that nobody is really hyping us up at all this year.
We are #22 in the power rankings, that's fine. Last year at this time SF was #22 in the power rankings.
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Not sure if we win a whole lot more if the D doesn't improve. Expecting to score 38 every week is a stretch. The D would improve immensely if the O could stay on the field just an average amount of time. Stay tuned. Yeah, this is a tough call. At times, our D played well last year and they were negatively affected by an offense that could not convert first downs and had way too many turnovers. Other times, the D seemingly gave up when things went sour. I think if we can at least get adequate QB play and coaching, and then develop some chemistry.....the team will do well. The team has more than enough talent, although our LBers took a huge hit. I really don't have a good feel as to how well the qb, the coach, and the team chemistry will fare this year. I'm hoping it all escalates and we kick butt, but it could also be more of the same. I'm not making any predictions.
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why is it such a tough call? If the defense gets penalized every third down what do expect to happen? How can the QB play adequately if he is running to his right and throwing the ball out of bounds or getting sacked. It is really not as complicated as you make everything.
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This back and forth is cracking me up.
The way they said it is wrong (the Ravens post).
This is their 25th season...meaning their 1st season was 24 years ago.
Both numbers "can" be right depending on what you are saying...anyway...
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The D would improve immensely if the O could stay on the field just an average amount of time. Stay tuned. I've seen this stated before. Yet in 2019, the Browns time of possession for the season averaged 29:42 per game. While our opponents averaged 30:17 per game. Only a difference of 35 seconds per game.
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The D would improve immensely if the O could stay on the field just an average amount of time. Stay tuned. I've seen this stated before. Yet in 2019, the Browns time of possession for the season averaged 29:42 per game. While our opponents averaged 30:17 per game. Only a difference of 35 seconds per game. Just like the back and forth about whether or not the Ravens can count, neither of you are wrong. TEN (43) vs CLE (13): 29:18 to 30:42 CLE (23) vs NYJ (3): 29:41 to 30:19 LAR (20) vs CLE (13): 28:23 to 31:37 CLE (40) vs BAL (25): 30:17 to 29:43 CLE ( 3) vs 49rs (31): 22:17 to 37:43 SEA (32) vs CLE (28): 33:41 to 26:19 CLE (13) vs NE (27): 27:45 to 32:15CLE (19) vs DEN (24): 35:30 to 24:30BUF (16) vs CLE (19): 28:14 to 31:46 PIT ( 7) vs CLE (21): 26:04 to 33:56 MIA (24) vs CLE (41): 23:54 to 36:06CLE (13) vs PIT (20): 32:06 to 27:54CIN (19) to CLE (27): 34:31 to 25:29CLE (24) to ARI (38): 30:49 to 29:11 BAL (31) vs CLE (15): 34:19 to 25:41CLE (23) vs CIN (33): 25:19 to 34:41Man, that took way too long to look up... anyway... Highlighted in any color are games where the TOP differential was at least 4:00... I picked 4:00 minutes as my threshold as its a sufficient amount of time to be a scoring possession. In ORANGE we have games where we lost the TOP by a minimum of that 4:00, and lost. In PURPLE we have games where we killed it in TOP, but still lost In GREEN we have games where we killed it in TOP and won In BLUE we have a game where we got slaughtered in TOP but won There were 5 losses where there was that minimum 4:00 minute differential, half of our losses. It is interesting to note that for the first 4 games the TOP was about dead nuts even. Then we go on a 3 game run where we get dominated, THEN we go on a 5 game run where we dominate the TOP..then we get killed TOP wise in most of the remaining games. How much of that is garbage time, who knows? I don't know that it matters much. But there's only 6 games that ended pretty close to the season average.. the other 10 TOPS swung wildly.
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That Denver loss was totally unacceptable ... especially given their QB situation. That was a killer
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Last update i saw as of 3/30 he was still looking ...
DAMARIOUS RANDALL DB, UNSIGNED FREE AGENT
Free agent Damarious Randall isn't expected to re-sign with the Browns.
Randall was never going to return under Freddie Kitchens, but the new coaching staff is also expected to move on. After playing a deep safety role under Gregg Williams in 2018, Randall played all over the field last year and should resurface as a low-end starter. There have been rumors Randall could join Landon Collins in Washington.
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That Denver loss was totally unacceptable ... especially given their QB situation. That was a killer For me the key game was with the Raiders, we lost the season on the 4th quarter of that game.
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Wasn't the Raider game in the previous season? I don't remember playing them last year.
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