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Yes Baker Mayfield

Kizer for example...

Baker was/is the QB who throws the most into 2x and 3x coverage. He's also not very accurate out of the pocket...

The kid, IMHO, was rattled but now he is calming down and it shows. He's not very good under pressure, honestly, so the best is for him to get off the spotlight.

I actually think that he either gets off the spotlight or he will be getting out of the NFL soon. He just can't handle it and it makes him worst.

Beckham and Landry are tied (with a handful of other players) for 6th in the NFL with 5 dropped passes each.

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?seas...amp;sortOrder=0

Beckham has a catch % of 55; Landry 58.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/receiving#catch-percentage

Baker is starting to play better and it shows. Good for him and for us.

Much more mobile than at the start of the season

QB Mayfield Exudes Leadership At Critical Time For Browns
By TOM WITHERS

https://pro32.ap.org/article/qb-mayfield-exudes-leadership-critical-time-browns

CLEVELAND (AP) — In those raw emotional moments following the stunning brawl with the Pittsburgh Steelers, Baker Mayfield exuded calming leadership.

The Browns are going to need more of that from their quarterback.

Mayfield, who has played much better the past three weeks after a slow start to his second NFL season, displayed an established veteran’s poise in the hazy postgame following Thursday night’s ugly sequence when Browns defensive end Myles Garrett struck Steelers quarterback Mason Rudolph in the head with a swung helmet.

During a live TV interview before leaving the field, Mayfield managed to find the right balance by calling Garrett’s act “inexcusable” while also supporting his teammate.

It was a delicate moment, one handled by the 24-year-old Mayfield, who hasn’t always shown such maturity. Earlier this season, he stormed away during an interview after objecting to a line of questioning.

But in a far more serious situation, Mayfield shined.

“It’s a tough spot,” Browns guard Joel Bitonio told reporters following Wednesday’s practice. “It's such an emotional game anyway. You know they try to give us a 10-minute cool-down period to not talk to you guys you don't want to say anything you'll regret, and he's on the field talking about it pretty much as we see it happening. It was a tough spot for him, but I think he handled it like a leader.”

For Mayfield, it’s part of the gig.

As the unquestioned face of Cleveland’s franchise, Mayfield carries the burden of performing on the field while handling non-football duties off it. It’s a strange mix of player and public relations spokesman.

Browns coach Freddie Kitchens was pleased with how his young QB stepped up in a scalding spotlight.

“There are a lot of emotions in football, and then when you walk off the football field, those emotions do not just stop,” Kitchens said. “Sometimes you just say what you feel at the moment. I was the same way. You get asked questions and you want to answer questions. You want to be truthful with people, and I think he did a good job of that.”

Mayfield downplayed the impact of his postgame comments. However, he did acknowledge some of his past experiences helped prepare him for the kind of adversity the Browns are facing in a season of roadblocks.

“I would not say that I am made for this moment,” said Mayfield, who has five touchdown passes and no interceptions in the past three games. “It is just about being that person every day that this team needs in the position I am in being a captain and showing the way and setting the standard, like the things I have been talking about. I would not necessarily say that I am made for this moment. I think I was made to come here in Cleveland and try and set the standard and culture each and every day.”

Mayfield said he has spoken with Garrett, who had the appeal of his indefinite suspension heard Wednesday in New York. A ruling is expected in the next two days.

Mayfield wanted to make sure his teammate didn’t feel alone.

“I’ve been in that moment,” he said. “It was a smaller scale in college — my Kansas mistake. You feel that weight of everybody crushing you. I wanted him to know that we have support for him, and he can lean on us.”

Mayfield was referring to an incident during his senior season at Oklahoma. After some Kansas players refused to shake his hand during the pregame coin toss, Mayfield grabbed his crotch while shouting expletives at the Jayhawks during the game. He didn’t start the next game, and the moment added to that reputation.

Mayfield has mostly toned down those antics, though there are still times when his emotions run high.

As for his play, Mayfield is looking much more as he did a year ago, when he broke the league’s rookie record with 27 TD passes. He’s making better decisions with the ball, staying in the pocket and delivering passes with accuracy.

"Baker has come into his own again,” Bitonio said. “He had some unlucky turnovers I would say early in the season and that kind of carried over a little bit. But he's kind of looking like himself. He made a few plays with his feet, made some throws, even ran the ball in one time on the QB sneak. It's some life, some good things that we're seeing from him, and I know he's extremely focused right now."

NOTES: Bitonio (groin), WRs Odell Beckham Jr. (groin) and Jarvis Landry (hip) were limited in practice. ... TE David Njoku practiced for the first time since breaking his wrist in Week 2. Njoku is eligible to play Sunday, but Kitchens wants to gauge his readiness first. Njoku decided to have surgery after initially saying he wouldn’t. “I’m very impatient,” he said what changed his mind. “When I want something, I want it right now. Without surgery, it looked like it would make me wait a little bit. I didn’t have time for that.”

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The Baker stuff is overblown as usual. He never said he was not willing to learn as many want to claim. He said some things he can correct on his own. It's not that he's unwilling to learn. Please don't make that up.

Everyone learns differently. For me, It's much easier to fix my golf swing if I watch a video of myself than to get a lesson and have someone else attempt to explain it to me. I'll probably still eventually figure it out, but I can look at what I'm doing and understand what ails me much faster.

j/c...

Great, now he's going to have to take time away for a statue unveiling!...

Baker's statue will probably slide to the right and might be grabbing his own crotch.

I wonder if it will include two cops trying to tackle him?

These comments.. lol

I'll literally LOL if it is planting a flag

That would be good, too. LOL

His statue in Cleveland will be behind the Cheesecake Factory.

Be a good spot to erect it.

He should be working out with Jarvis Landry and OBJ. Slacker.

I'm glad he is working out this year. The Browns can be really, really good this year if he improves his game.

It seems to me that Freddie told him to take time off last off-season, enjoy your wedding, and so forth.

Yeah, here's one story:

Freddie Kitchens wants Baker Mayfield to ‘decompress’ before setting sights on 2019
https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/fre...g-sights-on-201

Yes, Freddie said that. But, what's your point?

Well, just that Baker did what Freddie said, and some were ticked, saying that Baker was lazy.

We have different interpretations on what/why Baker did what he did.

But, I will let this go. I'm very sorry I mentioned Baker in such a critical manner. Because I guarantee the Dark Side dudes will be coming.

Don't be fooled. Baker worked out last year as well.

Not a very good throw.

Plus, what's up with the bakermayfield watermark on the screen?

This was probably done for show.

It was posted on Danny Amendola’s Instagram.

yeah, I noticed everyone in the comments, commenting he threw behind him. But we're only seeing 1 throw to a receiver that we don't know how much they have worked together with yet.

Did Baker throw behind him?
Is Amendola faster then Baker thought?
Did Amendola cut the early, forcing a quicker throw?

Besides, is that not a back shoulder catch? Pretty much what you want with a defender on the inside? It's not like he stopped to catch it

.............. at the Krispy Kreme.

j/c...

Kevin Stefanski: We have to surround Baker Mayfield with people that bring out his best
ProFootball Talk on NBC Sports
Josh Alper
ProFootball Talk on NBC SportsApr 2, 2020, 2:24 PM


Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski spoke highly of quarterback Baker Mayfield after he was hired in January and he continued to speak positively about Mayfield on a Thursday conference call.

The Browns brought in an experienced starter in Case Keenum as a free agent, but Stefanski reiterated that the quarterback job belongs to Mayfield. He also said that the organization is building around Mayfield in order to get the most out out of him on the field.

“I believe in Baker Mayfield. He’s our starting quarterback. Organizationally we believe in Baker Mayfield. It’s our job to surround him with people that can make him the best,” Stefanski said, via Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com.

The Browns moved to add tight end Austin Hooper and right tackle Jack Conklin in free agency to the group surrounding Mayfield on offense and they added several new pieces on defense to help while Mayfield is off the field. If that helps lift Mayfield to a higher level of play, the offseason will go in the books as a successful one in Cleveland.

Kevin Stefanski: We have to surround Baker Mayfield with people that bring out his best originally appeared on Pro Football Talk


https://sports.yahoo.com/kevin-stefanski-surround-baker-mayfield-182445824.html

Dude is living a charmed life. Wonder how long that spell will last?

I think his life has followed most other highly-drafted QBs. The last 1-2 seasons of his rookie deal will be where the road diverges, so to speak.

As for myself, I think he'll make it... but he's still got a lot to prove. If Stefanski is at least halfway decent, Mayfield has no excuses.

It may not have been a great football post, but there is some validity.

This is a big year for Baker. He had a real good year as a rookie. I won't say a bad year, but it wasn't good last year. This is where we kind of find out where it is going.

I chalk up last year to idiot offensive coaches who never got along and had it all screwed up from the beginning. It was like a coach by committee. That doesn't work.

I am a fan of Baker, just as I was of Tim Couch when we drafted him. I think you recall I wasn't a big fan of Timid after a few seasons.

I've been watching a lot of old games on game pass.

The physical tools are there. He is the most skilled QB the Browns have had since the return. He makes throws that maybe only a dozen QBs make or even attempt.

He is the answer or I guess he could be the answer. He just needs to stay humble and put in the work. Get his head on straight. Browns fans deserve that.

Well, according to Baker's wife [gee, wonder who she heard this from?] Brown's fans are "idiots" and "front-runners."

Baker at best can be a very good QB.
I don't think he will be ELITE.
He reminds me of Andy Dalton
Last year he seemed to take on the personality
Of Freddie Kitchens and just got lazy and full
Of himself.
I think Baker can be productive as long as
He has the right talent around him
I don't think Baker can elevate average talent around him
But this new HC seems to have a knack of
Getting the most out of his talent as evident
As his tenure in Minnesota

I wonder how Baker would have been under Gregg Williams with Freddy as OC?

Good question.

I think GW was more of a disciplinarian and that might have helped.

On the other hand, I really think that Freddie was still running Haley's offense in 2018, but just put a new twist on it to fit our strengths. I think he would have still switched to the BA offense this past season as the OC.

Hard to say, really. Good question, though.

I think Greg Williams would not have babied and tried to be chummy chummy buddy buddy with Baker.
I'm in the minority on this . But I think Todd Haley is 10x the Offensive mind Kitchens is.
Haley simply has a better resume than FK.
It's not even close
I think a pairing of GW and TH could have worked.not Kitchens as OC.
But Dorsey and GW would have been locking horns