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Kentucky governor vetoes voter ID bill, calling it the 'wrong move'

Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear (D) on Friday vetoed a bill mandating residents of the state show a government-issued form of identification before voting.

In his veto message, Beshear hammered Republicans for trying to push legislation that would “create an obstacle” to voting and tackle a “problem that does not exist,” referring to GOP-fueled claims of voter fraud.

“I am vetoing Senate Bill 2 because the provisions of the law would create an obstacle to the ability of Kentuckians to exercise their right to vote, resulting in fewer people voting and undermining our democracy. Furthermore, no documented evidence of recent voter fraud in the form of impersonation in Kentucky has been presented,” Beshear, Kentucky’s former attorney general, said.

Beshear went on to note that the legislation could put Kentuckians in harm’s way during the coronavirus crisis by forcing them to leave their homes to obtain the needed identification.

However, Beshear’s veto could be overridden since the bill was passed by supermajorities in both chambers of the state legislature.

“I ask the legislators of both parties who believe in election integrity and passed this law to override this regrettable veto, and I hope the governor will eventually join me in governing from the center,” Secretary of State Michael Adams (R) said in a statement.

Should the legislation ultimately be passed, voters would have to present government ID starting in November.

Supporters of the law have pointed out that forms of identification are needed for other transactions and that the legislation allows voters without ID to cast provisional ballots and then later prove their identity to enable their votes to be counted.

But the bill’s opponents, largely Democrats, say the legislation is intended to undermine turnout among traditionally Democratic-leaning voters such as the elderly, those with low incomes and African Americans.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch...-the-wrong-move

Trade a gun registry for voter ID... They are both rights in the constitution.

What problem could you have with showing an ID to vote?

I personally don't have a problem showing my ID. But I don't like any republican bill designed to deny American citizens their right to vote and don't pretend suppressing the vote is not what this is all about. Hell in 2016 they stopped a bunch of Native Americans from voting by requiring them to have addresses on their voter registration KNOWING the indians on the reservation did not have addresses on homes like most residences do...

ANY American who has a legal right to vote should automatically be registered and should be able to vote without obstacles being placed in their way! Period. I'm liking this mail in vote idea a lot! I'd be good with online voting too! Or drive thru voting!

So they can rig the elections as they normally do and blame Trump and the RUSSIANS and call the CONS racist ...lmaf

Do you drool when you try to think these zingers up?

I don't know how having to show an ID is surpressing the vote by any legal American

Thats why you guys giveI illegals drivers license

I honestly don't know... are there that many citizens who don't have a government ID?

I pretty much got my tail chewed for asking a similar question.

Hey, I have to show my id when I vote.

In Texas we have to show ID as well... I always thought it was a good idea and didn't really understand why others oppose it... truly I'm open to learning from those who oppose it... I'm actually curious how many out there don't have an ID... and want to vote...

You try way, way too hard and it hurts our argument. People on the other side can point to crap like this and talk about how Dems overreact and are bottom feeders.

I have tried to tell you this before and I am pretty sure you won't get it yet again........but sometimes, less is more.

Actually, Arch, you don’t. You can vote in Ohio with a utility bill.


https://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/en-US/voter-identification-requirements.aspx

Dawg- have you been keeping up with what's happening in WI?

It's a cluster up there, with the typical GOP suppression shenanigans. Tons of polling locations are being shuttered because there are no poll attendants to man the locations. There is no time to send absentee/mail-in ballots to the entire state, and absentee ballots now (not surprisingly) require a witness at the moment of signing. Oh, 'ef' it... here's a link to the latest: Cheat 101

Trump said it best, in one of those "quiet remarks" other people only think to themselves, but one he actually made out loud, on Fox and Fiends: “The things they had in there were crazy. They had things, levels of voting that if you’d ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again”

He was referencing the House's provision to require vote by mail. Nothing more, nothing less. Abject panic, were that to happen. Ever since the Supremes voted to strike down major sections of the Voting Rights Act. (passed in the U.S. Senate by a 77-19 vote, passed by the House 333-85) GOP operatives have moved to limit voting rights in numerous states, not all of which happen to be in the South, and not to exclusively target voters of color. It's a tactic to purge blue votes in general.

This is no secret. It's been common knowledge since 1965. Pachyderms win when Donks stay home.

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Forty-Five has a habit of saying out-loud, the stuff GOP tries to keep on DL... the things Moscow Mitch says only behind closed doors, when he needs his lieutenants to fall in line. He has 'tells' everywhere, and if he's given a mic and unlimited speaking time, he eventually outs every clandestine thing being engineered behind closed doors.

WI is the 2020 the very next test case. Look for MI, PA, GA, FL to follow suit if these guys have even a morsel of success.

He single-handedly keeps his local Best Buy in business because he's in every 2 weeks replacing his shorted-out keyboards.

Thank you. Correct. I show my driver's license, because that is what I carry. I suppose it wouldn't be too much of a struggle to show my electric bill. My wife could show her paycheck...wait, she doesn't get a paper paycheck anymore.

But yes, SOME sort of provable id should be mandatory. And, imo, no 'same day registry' should be allowed.

Interesting... thanks for sharing... it looks like a small percentage but still lot more people than I wouldhave thought...

I’m with you on same day registration. If there was a better way to get picture ids to everyone I would be all for that as well.

Showing a ID is pretty common across the spectrum of everyday events.

Only simpletons are against showing ID's at the polls.

Even a small percentage which is still in the millions could easily change elections throughout the country at every level. And the majority are poor and minority... smh We all know where most of those votes go.

Calling me a simpleton? I think you are/did. You can't stand anybody thinking differently than you and I'm the simpleton? lmao

I have no problem showing an ID because I have one and it's relatively easy for me to get. The cost of my ID, even though I think it's just another tax, is not so much that I feel the burden. BUT those are my circumstances, not everyone's.

I'm man enough to understand that and accept that others don't have it as good as me. I'm American enough to think that shouldn't disqualify them from voting. And I'm thoughtful enough to bring it up to people like you in hopes that you might be capable of understanding it if I explain it enough times in simple enough terms.

Get rid of all your ID's and see how that works for you.

Nationwide Mail in ballots for all registered voters is really required more than ever But trump and his GOPEr red state followers won’t let that happen. Pffft trump.

I was still editing when you replied.

You know they can’t even prove that there is a wide spread voter fraud problem without ID’s yet they still harp on this while it’s proven over and over again that red states have a widespread gerrymandering voter fraud problem. Pfff the trump era.

It's very telling that to the man, those defending these so called laws are republicans or right leaning independents. Any law that keeps another beneath you on the social scale is a good move to them. smh

Shouldn't we resolve our differences on a level playing field when it comes to politics?

You can't buy a car in Ohio without a Drivers license or State issued ID either

IDs average $16 and are FREE in almost every state for homeless, indigent, returning to society (from prison, etc).

Making excuses for those who are trying so diligently to get a ID and simply cannot get it done is one of the lamest excuses I've heard over the last 10 years.

I saw a piece on my beloved Fox News where Jesse Walters went into Harlem and asked Black people if they had an ID. He asked maybe 20 people and every one of them had one and most knew where the DMV was located. Some said of course I have a freaking ID.
I think this is just something else for Libs to whine about.

What does it cost to take time off work or travel to get one? I don't know that at all. And for some families a $20 bill might ouch a little. I know that seems unlikely if you work and have an average american life, but not all have that.

And more than anything, I'm playing devil's advocate here because in principle I agree with showing an ID. But when I see that million fall into the category of not having that I have to disagree with suppressing their votes. I don't see what's so hard about that. Are they somehow lessor or not citizens because they don't have an ID? No.

Yeah but you can buy a gun from someone without any ID at all. Pfffft.

Take time off work or travel to get one? C'mon bro, you can't be serious right now.

If $20 is that critical, I guess you'll have to make a decision on one pair of jeans at Goodwill vs WalMart, or two trips to McDonalds, etc, etc...

Are they somehow lessor or not citizens because they don't have an ID?

Nope, just lazy or have a hard time understanding priorities... or unable to panhandle for 30 minutes.

And again, most states make it possible to get an ID for free, many only require proof that you are on any kind of assistance.

Trump voting commission had no evidence of widespread voter fraud, former member says

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/03/politics/trump-voter-fraud-commission-evidence-documents/index.html

Documents disprove White House voter fraud claims, says ex-member of Trump commission

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018...rump-commission

Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/report-trump-commission-did-not-find-widespread-voter-fraud

Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

How far to you have to go to get to a BMV in a state like Mississippi? I mean some states have/had no issue closing down abortion clinics to the point women had to travel out of state... GOPers do all kinds of crap to surpress votes so I put nothing past them.

And yes I'm serious. We are talking millions... If it was like 1200 people in the country (like voter fraud) I wouldn't be as ardent about my argument.

In Tennessee you have to show your ID to buy beer. No matter your age. I have to show my ID. Trust me, people get their ID if for no other reason.

Go to a bank branch where you normally don't go and try to cash a check without ID. Go to a payday loan place and try to get the loan to carry you through without ID...lol

You use your bank card to get cash all the time without an ID. I did however forget that since Trump was elected you need an ID to buy groceries.

Pfft... more first world problems I guess.

GOPers plot out the when and where of BMVs to suppress votes... In the words of George Foreman "now I've heard it all".

Why don't you start a GoFundMe to help all these poor souls climb the insurmountable mountain of getting a state ID ~ I'll donate the first $100.

Oh yeah, just thought of something... Don't the Dems go to poor areas with catered buses and take people to the polls on election day?

Maybe, if they were smart, they could have monthly buses to the BMVs. It would probably be much more economical than TV ads, and let's be real, these people can't possibly afford TVs and cable anyway.

Then can you explain why voting places in poor districts in the south have been being closed?

I mean if you don't think it's nefarious, then do you have the reason why they have done it?

Southern U.S. states have closed 1,200 polling places in recent years: rights group

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e...p-idUSKCN1VV09J

I'm fine with people having a different point of view. But it is only common sense that they provide the logic in their thinking as to what their point of view is.

I mean either they are targeting certain areas to make it harder for those people to vote or there has to be some other logical explanation for it.

Considering the areas being targeted, it certainly isn't just coincidence.

Your condescension proves you know nothing about poverty in America.

https://www.povertyusa.org/data