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THIS is why I place blame on the Trump Administration as a whole, and Trump specifically for putting friends and family in leadership positions instead of well-educated and highly qualified professionals

JUST SO WE ARE CLEAR ON THE TIMELINE:

Jan 8th - First CDC warning
Jan 9th - Trump campaign rally
Jan 14th - Trump campaign rally
Jan 16h - House sends impeachment articles to Senate
Jan 18th - Trump golfs
Jan 19th - Trump golfs
Jan 20th - first case of corona virus in the US, Washington State.
Jan 22nd - “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
Jan 28th - Trump campaign rally
Jan 30th - Trump campaign rally
Feb 1st - Trump golfs
Feb 2nd - “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China."
Feb 5th - Senate votes to acquit. Then takes a five-day weekend.
Feb 10th - Trump campaign rally
Feb 12th - Dow Jones closes at an all time high of 29,551.42
Feb 15h - Trump golfs
Feb 19th - Trump campaign rally
Feb 20th - Trump campaign rally
Feb 21st - Trump campaign rally
Feb 24th - “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
Feb 25h - “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
Feb 25h - “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
Feb 26th - “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
Feb 26th - “We're going very substantially down, not up.” Also "This is a flu. This is like a flu"; "Now, you treat this like a flu"; "It's a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we'll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner."
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
Feb 28th - “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
Feb 28th - Trump campaign rally
March 2nd - “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2nd - “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5th - “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5th - “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6th - “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6th - “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6th - “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6th - “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 7th - Trump golfs
March 8th - Trump golfs
March 8th - “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
March 9th - “This blindsided the world.”
March 13th - [Declared state of emergency]
March 17th - “This is a pandemic,” Mr. Trump told reporters. “I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.”
March 18th - "It’s not racist at all. No. Not at all. It comes from China. That’s why. It comes from China. I want to be accurate."
March 23th- Dow Jones closes at 18,591.93
March 25th - 3.3 million Americans file for unemployment.
March 30th - Dow Jones closes at 21,917.16
April 2nd - 6.6 million Americans file for unemployment.


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Oh but your missing a TON of idiotic things the man said. I mean literally a TON of the dumbest stupidest things a "leader' could say and do ....

But apparently calling Obama a Muslim and saying his birth certificate is a fake for 8 years is MURICAN. Hell - Shereeeeeiiifff Joe got a pardon for doing it.

Trying to hold POTUS accountable for what he says in the face of a crisis is being political !


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Jan. 3rd was the first day...

The Trump administration received its first formal notification of the outbreak of the coronavirus in China on Jan. 3. Within days, U.S. spy agencies were signaling the seriousness of the threat to Trump by including a warning about the coronavirus — the first of many — in the President’s Daily Brief.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-...on/?arc404=true

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Michigan Gov. Whitmer slammed by home state paper for allegedly playing politics in middle of coronavirus crisis

https://www.foxnews.com/media/michigan-g...onavirus-crisis

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“We have no criticism of how Whitmer is handling this crisis; she is taking the same steps as most other governors in states hard hit by the virus,” the editorial read

Why dont they slam trump for playing politics?

"President Donald Trump said Friday that he instructed Vice President Mike Pence not to reach out to governors who aren’t “appreciative” of his administration’s efforts to slow the spread of the coronavirus in their states.

The president mentioned Washington Gov. Jay Inslee and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, both Democrats who have been critical of the White House’s actions to combat the deadly pandemic."

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Michigan Gov. Whitmer slammed by home state paper for allegedly playing politics in middle of coronavirus crisis

https://www.foxnews.com/media/michigan-g...onavirus-crisis


A story by FOX NEWS, playing politics, about not playing politics... rolleyes

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg

A Post , playing politics, about not playing politics... rolleyes


I thought I was back in Pure Football for a moment. rofl


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg

A Post , playing politics, about not playing politics... rolleyes


I thought I was back in Pure Football for a moment. rofl


This must be the post that triggered Vers.

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I thought that was funny ...


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Republican Strategist Denounces the Party's Response to COVID-19 | Amanpour and Company



Republican strategist Stuart Stevens is known for advising key GOP campaigns like Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential bid. Now he has written a powerful mea culpa for the Washington Post, laying the blame for what he regards as President Trump’s failed response to the coronavirus pandemic squarely at the feet of all Republicans. Michel speaks with Stevens about all this and about his new book, “It Was All a Lie: How the Republican Party Became Donald Trump."

Originally aired on March 31, 2020.

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Zach Carter: Dem leadership realizes they screwed up bailout



Zach Carter, Senior Reporter from the HuffPost, explains how the government is failing the test coronavirus poses to the country, citing structural issues of our economy and a shortage of medical supplies, healthcare workers.

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Alex Lawson: Nationalize vaccines, don't believe pharma propaganda



Alex Lawson, the executive director of social security works, charts how pharmaceutical companies have already started to profit from the pandemic.

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GOPers know they bare most of the blame for the slow and poor response to this virus. But you see, they don’t care. They only care for trump.


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If you handed this to Trump, he'd deny it. That's assuming he can read


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https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressiv...ies-from-virus/

MAGA”: Karen Kolb Sehlke, a Trump-loving woman from Texas is dead from COVID-19 after claiming the virus was a “media driven” hoax.

In a sad, cautionary tale of willful ignorance and hubris, Karen Kolb Sehlke is dead from COVID-19 after claiming the virus was a “media driven” hoax “controlled by the radical people in powerful places.”

In a long-winded Facebook rant Sehlke claimed that “our government is under attack from within” while comparing the coronavirus to “the impeachment hoax” and arguing that those who take the current pandemic seriously “panic like sheep.”

Sehlke wrote in part:

Wake up!!! This is what the beginning of socialism looks like!



They are leading with fear causing you to panic like sheep.

… You don’t need hand sanitizer, toilet paper, and Lysol. You need common sense, a sense of direction, faith, a will to fight, and of course guns!


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https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressiv...ies-from-virus/

MAGA”: Karen Kolb Sehlke, a Trump-loving woman from Texas is dead from COVID-19 after claiming the virus was a “media driven” hoax.

In a sad, cautionary tale of willful ignorance and hubris, Karen Kolb Sehlke is dead from COVID-19 after claiming the virus was a “media driven” hoax “controlled by the radical people in powerful places.”

In a long-winded Facebook rant Sehlke claimed that “our government is under attack from within” while comparing the coronavirus to “the impeachment hoax” and arguing that those who take the current pandemic seriously “panic like sheep.”

Sehlke wrote in part:

Wake up!!! This is what the beginning of socialism looks like!



They are leading with fear causing you to panic like sheep.

… You don’t need hand sanitizer, toilet paper, and Lysol. You need common sense, a sense of direction, faith, a will to fight, and of course guns!


Honestly, RIP Karen,,, But damn, you kinda brought this on yourself.

Perhaps there is a lesson to be learned....


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top ten states for coronavirus and their governors political party

1 New York Democrat
2 New Jersey Democrat
3.Michigan Democrat
4 California Democrat
5 Louisiana Democrat
6 Massachusetts Republican
7 Florida Republican
8 Pennsylvania Democrat
9 Illinois Democrat
10 Washington Democrat


I AM ALWAYS RIGHT... except when I am wrong.
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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
top ten states for coronavirus and their governors political party

1 New York Democrat
2 New Jersey Democrat
3.Michigan Democrat
4 California Democrat
5 Louisiana Democrat
6 Massachusetts Republican
7 Florida Republican
8 Pennsylvania Democrat
9 Illinois Democrat
10 Washington Democrat


Whats the point?


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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
top ten states for coronavirus and their governors political party

1 New York Democrat
2 New Jersey Democrat
3.Michigan Democrat
4 California Democrat
5 Louisiana Democrat
6 Massachusetts Republican
7 Florida Republican
8 Pennsylvania Democrat
9 Illinois Democrat
10 Washington Democrat


All of them led down the down the path of ruin and unsupported by the mad Republican in the oval.


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He means whats the point of making a factual statement cause their all true and not Trump condemning facts ....SMFH

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Its a good thing the ones who lost there coverage can now buy their own ...



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He means whats the point of making a factual statement cause their Tallow facts....SMFH

tallow facts are the worse rofl And if you meant shallow. You need to know there is no such thing as shallow facts. Facts are facts ...some of you ignore them to protect your king. Long live the king.




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Like you and the other TDS,ers make a typo....but my point is spot on...SMFH

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Like you and the other TDS,ers make a typo....but my point is spot on...SMFH


What is the relevance of the fact?


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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
top ten states for coronavirus and their governors political party

1 New York Democrat
2 New Jersey Democrat
3.Michigan Democrat
4 California Democrat
5 Louisiana Democrat
6 Massachusetts Republican
7 Florida Republican
8 Pennsylvania Democrat
9 Illinois Democrat
10 Washington Democrat



Completely unprepared.
Their pants are down for the whole world to see.

Luckily Trump has their backs, making up the difference, best as he can!

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yep.. it's the typos...

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: GMdawg
top ten states for coronavirus and their governors political party

1 New York Democrat
2 New Jersey Democrat
3.Michigan Democrat
4 California Democrat
5 Louisiana Democrat
6 Massachusetts Republican
7 Florida Republican
8 Pennsylvania Democrat
9 Illinois Democrat
10 Washington Democrat



Completely unprepared.
Their pants are down for the whole world to see.

Luckily Trump has their backs, making up the difference, best as he can!


the 'back up' leader... what a farce.

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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
top ten states for coronavirus and their governors political party

1 New York Democrat
2 New Jersey Democrat
3.Michigan Democrat
4 California Democrat
5 Louisiana Democrat
6 Massachusetts Republican
7 Florida Republican
8 Pennsylvania Democrat
9 Illinois Democrat
10 Washington Democrat



Completely unprepared.
Their pants are down for the whole world to see.

Luckily Trump has their backs, making up the difference, best as he can!

If they were completely un-prepared the buck stops with trump.
"President of The United States". If he cant take responsibility for states success or failure what is he doing? Is he president of stock market? President of republican states?

You are delusional . Maybe it has something to do with population, airports, density, tourists....


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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
top ten states for coronavirus and their governors political party

1 New York Democrat
2 New Jersey Democrat
3.Michigan Democrat
4 California Democrat
5 Louisiana Democrat
6 Massachusetts Republican
7 Florida Republican
8 Pennsylvania Democrat
9 Illinois Democrat
10 Washington Democrat


The only common thing I see is that these border bodies of water with shipping lanes. Some only have small wet borders but I'm not sure about docks or international shipping.

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He adopts every dumb ass thing Trump says as the gospel of Trump.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
He adopts every dumb ass thing Trump says as the gospel of Trump.


So only 15 people had it and its over now?


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Trump knew it was a pandemic all along, that's why he got the government ready to 'back up' states... He's a back up. The best backup ever, but just a back up. He's no longer the chosen one or leader of the free world. He's just a back up.

The guy bankrupted a casino for crying out loud, I don't know what anyone could possibly expect from him in the face of the biggest health crisis in a hundred years... He can barely read and communicates on a 4th grade level. Unless lies and sharpies can fix it, he's not qualified.

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Trump knew it was a pandemic all along, that's why he got the government ready to 'back up' states... He's a back up. The best backup ever, but just a back up. He's no longer the chosen one or leader of the free world. He's just a back up.


He is a war time president He said so. War against democrats? Media? Truth? He is very smart too he said that too.


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George W. Bush in 2005: 'If we wait for a pandemic to appear, it will be too late to prepare'

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In the summer of 2005, President George W. Bush was on vacation at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, when he began flipping through an advance reading copy of a new book about the 1918 flu pandemic. He couldn't put it down.

When he returned to Washington, he called his top homeland security adviser into the Oval Office and gave her the galley of historian John M. Barry's "The Great Influenza," which told the chilling tale of the mysterious plague that "would kill more people than the outbreak of any other disease in human history."

"You've got to read this," Fran Townsend remembers the president telling her. "He said, 'Look, this happens every 100 years. We need a national strategy.'"

Thus was born the nation's most comprehensive pandemic plan -- a playbook that included diagrams for a global early warning system, funding to develop new, rapid vaccine technology, and a robust national stockpile of critical supplies, such as face masks and ventilators, Townsend said.

The effort was intense over the ensuing three years, including exercises where cabinet officials gamed out their responses, but it was not sustained. Large swaths of the ambitious plan were either not fully realized or entirely shelved as other priorities and crises took hold.

But elements of that effort have formed the foundation for the national response to the coronavirus pandemic underway right now.

"Despite politics, despite changes, when a crisis hits, you pull what you've got off the shelf and work from there," Townsend said.

When Bush first told his aides he wanted to focus on the potential of a global pandemic, many of them harbored doubts.

"My reaction was -- I'm buried. I'm dealing with counterterrorism. Hurricane season. Wildfires. I'm like, 'What?'" Townsend said. "He said to me, 'It may not happen on our watch, but the nation needs the plan.'"

Over the ensuing months, cabinet officials got behind the idea. Most of them had governed through the Sept. 11 terror attacks, so events considered unlikely but highly-impactful had a certain resonance.

"There was a realization that it's no longer fantastical to raise scenarios about planes falling from the sky, or anthrax arriving in the mail," said Tom Bossert, who worked in the Bush White House and went on to serve as a homeland security adviser in the Trump administration. "It was not a novel. It was the world we were living."

According to Bossert, who is now an ABC News contributor, Bush did not just insist on preparation for a pandemic. He was obsessed with it.

"He was completely taken by the reality that that was going to happen," Bossert said.

In a November 2005 speech at the National Institutes of Health, Bush laid out proposals in granular detail -- describing with stunning prescience how a pandemic in the United States would unfold. Among those in the audience was Dr. Anthony Fauci, the leader of the current crisis response, who was then and still is now the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

"A pandemic is a lot like a forest fire," Bush said at the time. "If caught early it might be extinguished with limited damage. If allowed to smolder, undetected, it can grow to an inferno that can spread quickly beyond our ability to control it."

The president recognized that an outbreak was a different kind of disaster than the ones the federal government had been designed to address.

"To respond to a pandemic, we need medical personnel and adequate supplies of equipment," Bush said. "In a pandemic, everything from syringes to hospital beds, respirators masks and protective equipment would be in short supply."

Bush told the gathered scientists that they would need to develop a vaccine in record time.

"If a pandemic strikes, our country must have a surge capacity in place that will allow us to bring a new vaccine on line quickly and manufacture enough to immunize every American against the pandemic strain," he said.

Bush set out to spend $7 billion building out his plan. His cabinet secretaries urged their staffs to take preparations seriously. The government launched a website, www.pandemicflu.gov, that is still in use today. But as time passed, it became increasingly difficult to justify the continued funding, staffing and attention, Bossert said.

"You need to have annual budget commitment. You need to have institutions that can survive any one administration. And you need to have leadership experience," Bossert said. "All three of those can be effected by our wonderful and unique form of government in which you transfer power every four years."

Bush declined, through a spokesman, to comment on the unfolding crisis or discuss the current response. But his remarks from 15 years ago still resonate.

"If we wait for a pandemic to appear," he warned, "it will be too late to prepare. And one day many lives could be needlessly lost because we failed to act today."


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We are just lucky to have a handful of strong, smart, and well grounded governors lead the rest and fill the void left by the inept administration in DC.

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Maybe Canada will annex us when we fail... I hear they have good medical care and a government that takes care of it's people.

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....but my point is spot on...SMFH


Lol,...no it wasn’t. Long live the king.


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trump had 3 years to prepare. What did trump and his sheep do? Ignore the science ignored the scientific factual data. Fired the experts and disbanded the contagious readiness team. Pffft ...trump and his sheep have blood on their hands and are once again in denial and constantly in damage control mode with the stock market first and not for the public health interest first. Money over life. ‘The cure can’t be worse than the virus”. Pffft trump.


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