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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
This article is the antithesis of the story being told months ago about Trump riding the economy into a second term. This is now Trump's economy regardless of the cause or causes. What he does economically from here on out will most likely be too little too late for his campaign to claim victory. Obviously I don't blame him for COVID-19, just his lack of leadership in the aftermath of it's arrival on our shores.


Its funny how Drs at the CDC all say Trump i doing a great job. He is listening to some rally smart people but of course thats not good enough for you Libs. You guys would rather vote for som enil old man that that can't put two sentences together.

Remember when you guys said Trump was senile with dementia? hypocrite much?

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LMAO! Lots of people say nice things about him TO KEEP THEIR JOBS.

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Comedian and UFC commentator Joe Rogan would rather vote for President Trump than former Vice President Joe Biden in the 2020 election, he said on his podcast Friday.

“I can’t vote for that guy,” Rogan said of the Democratic presidential primary front-runner. “I’d rather vote for Trump than him. I don’t think he can handle anything.”

Rogan, who previously endorsed Biden’s primary rival Sen. Bernie Sanders, would apparently prefer President Trump to serve a second term than vote for Biden.

“The pressure of being the president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for,” he said. “The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough. He doesn’t seem to be aging at all.”

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Comedian and UFC commentator Joe Rogan would rather vote for President Trump than former Vice President Joe Biden in the 2020 election, he said on his podcast Friday.

“I can’t vote for that guy,” Rogan said of the Democratic presidential primary front-runner. “I’d rather vote for Trump than him. I don’t think he can handle anything.”

Rogan, who previously endorsed Biden’s primary rival Sen. Bernie Sanders, would apparently prefer President Trump to serve a second term than vote for Biden.

“The pressure of being the president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for,” he said. “The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough. He doesn’t seem to be aging at all.”

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See Pit! Biden is NOT who Americans want. Rogan has the most popular podcast in the country for a reason.

40, he would vote Bernie before Trump.

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Comedian and UFC commentator Joe Rogan would rather vote for President Trump than former Vice President Joe Biden in the 2020 election, he said on his podcast Friday.

“I can’t vote for that guy,” Rogan said of the Democratic presidential primary front-runner. “I’d rather vote for Trump than him. I don’t think he can handle anything.”

Rogan, who previously endorsed Biden’s primary rival Sen. Bernie Sanders, would apparently prefer President Trump to serve a second term than vote for Biden.

“The pressure of being the president of the United States is something that no one has ever prepared for,” he said. “The only one who seems to be fine with it is Trump, oddly enough. He doesn’t seem to be aging at all.”

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40, he would vote Bernie before Trump.


That's the Comedian in him.

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Is Trump running for senator in Vermont and i somehow missed it .... rofl




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You, Joe Rogan and some Bernie Bros throwing a temper tantrum do not represent "America".


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
You, Joe Rogan and some Bernie Bros throwing a temper tantrum do not represent "America".


MOST POPULAR PODCAST IN AMERICA... explain that away. I have never heard more than clips but somebody is listening.

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And how many people is that exactly out of the entire population? Mmmm, hmmmm.

You may want to look at how many Americans are actually on Twitter too. None of that represents "America".

So you think everyone who listens to him votes the way he says to? Are you saying his listeners are sheeple?


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I'm saying he's popular for a reason, beyond that I don't know. But it contradicts your opinion on a few levels. Guess that makes your views the radical outlier in this scenario.

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Not at all. You think it actually means something because a certain portion of people listen to him. Are you claiming people vote according to what he says? Once again, just because he has a popular podcast in no way means he "speaks for America".

You see, I use real evidence and not some far fetched anecdotal evidence. Bernie is LOSING primaries! Therefore he doesn't represent even close to the majority of Democratic voters and he certainly doesn't represent Trump voters. Most Independent voters are moderates so he doesn't represent them either.

So the fact that he's losing, and it's not close either, is actual proof that what you have been saying is false.


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Forget about it Pit, I was just poking holes in your delusion but I see that's not possible with the centrist kool aid level you are on.

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I'm dealing with facts. Bernie has even lost states he won against Hillary. I thought you were a proponent of math and science?


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That was the DNC pulling out all the stops before this virus hit and the economy crashed... It's time for a man like Bernie now.

People are going to want somebody to save them from this economy, no part of that screams vote for Biden. Trump will crush him and I don't know why, but people think he will help the economy.

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OCD is right for once. Trump will crush Biden.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
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You go ahead and laugh but I'm telling you now, Bernie is the only chance Dems have of taking the Oval now. And he would crush Trump.

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Dude, he can't even crush it running in the democratic primaries.


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Crushed it enough to make the DNC cheat... But I get where you are coming from... You like the centrist safety blanket of accepting scraps and being thankful, lies about being for the people until they are elected, telling you they are progressive when they legislate like conservatives for their donors. You can have that. The primaries are not over and everything is different. If Biden holds on, I'll cast my last vote as a democrat.

Going backwards is damn sure not going to fix the depression that's coming.

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I am promoting the most popular candidate, by a wide margin in the primaries. Bernie is even losing states he won in 2016. It wasn't Bernie everyone loved in 2016 and the 2020 numbers prove it. It was Hillary they disliked. And despite your consistent noise, the numbers are proving it.


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Hey if the rest of the primary goes like that then you win, Biden is the most popular... I doubt he's the candidate come November.

I honestly expect him to edge out Bernie but fall short of the 1920 and get replaced at the convention.

The DNC is in panic mode.

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So far that doesn't hold true and the most liberal of states have already voted. Nobody is in panic mode unless maybe the Bernie Bros. Some of them that have common sense have figured out they aren't running against a candidate people hate anymore like in 2016.

If Michigan didn't teach them that nothing will.


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The DNC is already talking about Bernie not getting out as a reason Biden might lose... They will blame progressives and Bernie if Biden loses... or WHEN. Meanwhile they are eyeballing Cuomo and building him up for a possible stand in come the convention. The DNC reads the polls and sees Trump catching up to Biden.

Trump is getting all the press now and benefitting from the 'rally to the flag' effect.

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[sarcasm]Yeah, when we need party unity, continually watching people sew division isn't a concern.[/sarcasm] I mean the convention has been postponed until August so let's just have three moths to only have one candidate. Do you even hear yourself?


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
[sarcasm]Yeah, when we need party unity, continually watching people sew division isn't a concern.[/sarcasm] I mean the convention has been postponed until August so let's just have three moths to only have one candidate. Do you even hear yourself?
Primary races can last until the convention, those are the rules bro. Biden doesn't have the numbers, so unless Bernie gets out we're going to the convention. And half the country still gets to vote.

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Conventions aren't usually done in August and you know that. The Democrats will lose over a month. Do you mean half the states or half the population? There's a difference.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
I think you and Pit may both be wrong.

It won't be Bernie.
It won't be Biden.

Have you noticed the media pumping, the daily press conferences, the presentation of appearing Presidential...

Of Governor Cuomo?

That is where I believe the DNC will take the Convention.


Remember when I posted this ^^^^^

Well now, I just read this...

Dems conflicted over Biden's strategy during coronavirus – and angry at Bernie

Banned from the campaign trail and stalled by a string of primary election postponements, Biden finds himself in the tricky position of being the almost Democratic presidential nominee but without a consistent stage. He’s struggled to maintain a high profile befitting a presumptive nominee as President Trump commands the bully pulpit for the nation’s pandemic response and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo emerges as the most visible Democrat in America for now via his daily briefings.

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Yep I saw your original post and thought it lacked credibility until I started hearing it in dem forums and posts. There have been a few articles now speculating Cuomo might be the fallback option too.

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So there is nothing there that says anything about Cuomo being the nominee. Do you mind posting the source?


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Yep I saw your original post and thought it lacked credibility until I started hearing it in dem forums and posts. There have been a few articles now speculating Cuomo might be the fallback option too.


I try to help you wherever I can but getting you to listen is difficult. brownie

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40 will like this. Trump beating Biden.


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This is why the RNC is glad the DNC is screwing over Bernie again.

Trump will crush Biden in any debates as Joe looks for his teeth.

What can Trump say to Bernie tho?

Thanks for all the great ideas that saved our economy?

Bernie says...
Trump replies... You are right!

Bernie says...
Trump replies...Yes and who da thunk it?

Trump says... You da Commie!
Bernie replies... So are you!

Wake up JOE! Get her done!

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Only nobody is screwing over Bernie this time. He's just getting his ass kicked. Can you please tell us how the DNC is screwing over Bernie in this election OCD..... I mean 40?


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Wow Pit, that name mistake was a low shot... willynilly

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Well I hope whoever gets in office in 2020, if it's not Bernie, will listen to him. We're going to need an FDR type plan.




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Wow Pit, that name mistake was a low shot... willynilly


naughtydevil It was done in jest. But think about something for just a minute. When you have 40 cent agreeing with you, doesn't that give you a hint?


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We are allowed to agree on some things. I maintain the line.

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What The Heck Is Going On With Wisconsin’s Primary?

UPDATE (April 6, 2020, 7:32 p.m.): On Monday, Gov. Tony Evers issued an executive order attempting to postpone in-person voting for Wisconsin’s April 7 election to June 9; however, Republican legislators successfully challenged the order in the Wisconsin Supreme Court. So as of Monday evening, Wisconsin will be going to the polls on Tuesday.

However, in a separate court case, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled late on Monday that all absentee ballots must be postmarked by April 7, overturning an earlier ruling by a federal judge that said ballots would count as long as they were received by April 13.

The fight song of the University of Wisconsin is “On, Wisconsin!” — and, for better or for worse, the state is certainly heeding that call this week. Even though 16 presidential primaries have now been postponed amid the COVID-19 pandemic, Wisconsin is forging ahead with Tuesday’s election as scheduled. In fact, Wisconsin will likely be the only state to host an in-person presidential primary in the entire month of April.

So why didn’t Wisconsin reschedule? Well, it was harder for Wisconsin than other states because it is also holding general elections for several local offices — judges, mayors, county executives — including some whose terms begin on April 20 (so the election had to take place before then). In addition, Democratic Gov. Tony Evers probably did not have the power to alter the election without the consent of the Republican legislature, and that was always unlikely given the bad blood between the two.

In fact, not only did Evers and the legislature not change the date of the election, but they have also been unable to agree on any statutory changes to the state’s election procedures in the face of restrictions on gatherings because of the coronavirus. For instance, on March 27, Evers called for the state to mail a ballot to every registered voter, but legislators (and election officials) immediately shot down his proposal as logistically infeasible. And late last week, Evers attempted to call a special session of the legislature to delay the election, but legislative leaders declined to take up his proposal, saying the election should continue as planned.

As a result, the administration of Tuesday’s election could be a disaster, as the state’s election infrastructure strains under the weight of the coronavirus crisis. As of Sunday, 1,268,587 absentee ballots had been requested for the election — far more than election officials are equipped to handle. Not only is that almost six times as many as were cast in Wisconsin’s 2016 presidential primary, but it’s also probably a higher volume of absentee ballots than Wisconsin has ever handled. In the 2016 general election, for instance, only 819,316 absentee ballots were counted.1
In addition to the avalanche of ballots arriving by mail, polling places may also be overwhelmed on Tuesday due to a dire shortage of poll workers. As of last Tuesday, almost 60 percent of municipalities in Wisconsin did not have enough poll workers, and more than 100 did not have any. The situation was critical enough that Evers has asked members of the Wisconsin Army National Guard to staff some precincts, but it is still not expected to be enough. As a result, many communities have drastically reduced the number of polling places that will be open on Tuesday; for example, Milwaukee, which normally has 180 polling places, will have only five. Not only could this confuse voters who show up to their normal polling place only to find it shuttered, but it could also lead to big crowds — in violation of public-health recommendations — at the few places that remain open.

Amid all this chaos, on Thursday, the courts even stepped in. In response to a lawsuit seeking a number of changes to the election, a federal judge said it was not his place to delay the election and slammed Evers and the legislature for not doing so; however, he did loosen a few absentee-voting rules. Voters were given an extra day to request absentee ballots, and the deadline for absentee ballots to be received was extended from April 7 to April 13 — creating a very unusual situation in which absentee voters can theoretically cast their ballots after the in-person Election Day on Tuesday.2 However, Republicans are now asking the U.S. Supreme Court to allow only ballots postmarked by April 7 to count (although, in a departure from Wisconsin’s usual election law, they would still be able to arrive late). The result of this legal fight could affect when we get actual results from Wisconsin, as after implementing the April 13 deadline, the judge also instructed election officials to not report any election returns until then.

Indeed, the circumstances of the election have overshadowed any suspense over the actual results — maybe because there isn’t any, at least at the top of the ticket. Despite Sen. Bernie Sanders’s decisive win in Wisconsin in the 2016 Democratic primary, he is a clear underdog this time around. According to the FiveThirtyEight forecast, former Vice President Joe Biden has a 7 in 8 (88 percent) chance of winning the Wisconsin primary, while Sanders has just a 1 in 8 (12 percent) chance — although the forecast doesn’t “know” about the unusual circumstances of the election, so maybe there’s more uncertainty than the math implies. In our average model run, Biden gets 58 percent of the vote to Sanders’s 40 percent, although the only recent poll of the contest — from Marquette Law School — gave Biden a strong 28-point lead. Regardless of the exact margin, though, Sanders is unlikely to pull off the win — and even if he does, Biden is already so far ahead nationally that it probably won’t matter. According to ABC News, Biden currently leads Sanders by 312 pledged delegates, but Wisconsin is worth only 84, so Sanders would need a lot of other things to go right as well.

Instead, the Wisconsin race featuring the most intrigue is probably the one for state Supreme Court. Conservatives have a 5-2 majority on the court, but liberals could cut that to 4-3 if Jill Karofsky defeats incumbent Daniel Kelly on Tuesday. Recent Wisconsin Supreme Court elections have been razor-close, too, and the outcome of this race could have national implications for the 2020 election and beyond.

The court may ultimately decide whether Wisconsin must remove up to 209,000 people from the voting rolls ahead of the 2020 general election; Kelly had previously served as an adviser to the conservative group suing to force the purge. Additionally, with federal courts no longer taking up gerrymandering cases, the state Supreme Court could eventually decide the constitutionality of the congressional map Wisconsin draws after the 2020 census, too.

Whenever they end up getting announced, we’ll recap the results for you — and, perhaps more importantly, assess how the coronavirus restrictions affected the election. If the crisis persists, Wisconsin could offer some important lessons for November on how — or how not — to conduct an election during a pandemic.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ele...ary-on-tuesday/

SHAME ON THE WISCONSIN REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE!

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By a 5–4 Vote, SCOTUS Lets Wisconsin Throw Out Tens of Thousands of Ballots

The conservative majority just approved one of the most brazen acts of voter suppression in modern times.

On Monday, by a 5–4 vote, the U.S. Supreme Court approved one of the most brazen acts of voter suppression in modern history. The court will nullify the votes of citizens who mailed in their ballots late—not because they forgot, but because they did not receive ballots until after Election Day due to the coronavirus pandemic. As Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote in dissent, the court’s order “will result in massive disenfranchisement.” The conservative majority claimed that its decision would help protect “the integrity of the election process.” In reality, it calls into question the legitimacy of the election itself.

Wisconsin has long been scheduled to hold an election on April 7. There are more than 3,800 seats on the ballot, and a crucial state Supreme Court race. But the state’s ability to conduct in-person voting is imperiled by COVID-19. Thousands of poll workers have dropped out for fear of contracting the virus, forcing cities to shutter dozens of polling places. Milwaukee, for example, consolidated its polling locations from 182 to five, while Green Bay consolidated its polling locations from 31 to two. Gov. Tony Evers asked the Republican-controlled legislature to postpone the election, but it refused. So he tried to delay it himself in an executive order on Monday. But the Republican-dominated state Supreme Court reinstated the election, thereby forcing voters to choose between protecting their health and exercising their right to vote.

Because voters are rightfully afraid of COVID-19, Wisconsin has been caught off guard by a surge in requests for absentee ballots. Election officials simply do not have time, resources, or staff to process all those requests. As a result, a large number of voters—at least tens of thousands—won’t get their ballot until after Election Day. And Wisconsin law disqualifies ballots received after that date. In response, last Thursday, a federal district court ordered the state to extend the absentee ballot deadline. It directed officials to count votes mailed after Election Day so long as they were returned by April 13. A conservative appeals court upheld his decision.

Now the Supreme Court has reversed that order. It allowed Wisconsin to throw out ballots postmarked and received after Election Day, even if voters were entirely blameless for the delay. (Thankfully, ballots postmarked by Election Day but received by April 13 still count, because the legislature didn’t challenge that extension.) In an unsigned opinion, the majority cited the Purcell principle, which cautions courts against altering voting laws shortly before an election. It criticized the district court for “fundamentally alter[ing] the nature of the election by permitting voting for six additional days after the election.” And it insisted that the plaintiffs did not actually request that relief—which, as Ginsburg notes in her dissent, is simply false.

Ginsburg’s dissent, joined by her three liberal colleagues, shredded every other aspect of the majority opinion, as well. “If proximity to the election counseled hesitation when the District Court acted several days ago,” she wrote, “this Court’s intervention today—even closer to the election—is all the more inappropriate.” Ginsburg also pointed out that there is nothing unusual about extending voting beyond the deadline to protect citizens’ constitutional rights. “If a voter already in line by the poll’s closing time can still vote,” she asked, “why should Wisconsin’s absentee voters, already in line to receive ballots, be denied the franchise?”

Shockingly, the majority alleged that voters who receive late ballots are not “in a substantially different position from late-requesting voters in other Wisconsin elections.” This contention, Ginsburg, wrote, “boggles the mind.” She elaborated:

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Rising concern about the COVID–19 pandemic has caused a late surge in absentee-ballot requests. … Some 150,000 requests for absentee ballots have been processed since Thursday, state records indicate. The surge in absentee ballot requests has overwhelmed election officials, who face a huge backlog in sending ballots. As of Sunday morning, 12,000 ballots reportedly had not yet been mailed out. It takes days for a mailed ballot to reach its recipient—the postal service recommends budgeting a week—even without accounting for pandemic-induced mail delays. It is therefore likely that ballots mailed in recent days will not reach voters by tomorrow; for ballots not yet mailed, late arrival is all but certain.


Ginsburg closed with a dire warning about the threat to democracy manufactured by the majority:

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The question here is whether tens of thousands of Wisconsin citizens can vote safely in the midst of a pandemic. Under the District Court’s order, they would be able to do so. Even if they receive their absentee ballot in the days immediately following election day, they could return it. With the majority’s stay in place, that will not be possible. Either they will have to brave the polls, endangering their own and others’ safety. Or they will lose their right to vote, through no fault of their own. That is a matter of utmost importance—to the constitutional rights of Wisconsin’s citizens, the integrity of the State’s election process, and in this most extraordinary time, the health of the Nation.


Unfortunately for the nation, Wisconsin Republicans decided that they would prefer to exploit the pandemic to suppress Democratic votes. Their state Supreme Court, dominated by partisan Republicans, allowed them to do so. And now the U.S. Supreme Court has overturned the only protection in place to ensure that voters could still safely cast ballots even if the state fails to provide them expediently. This election looks increasingly like a sham tainted by partisan manipulation. And now the most powerful court in the nation has approved these tactics. An election that forces voters to choose between protecting their health and casting a ballot is not a free and fair election. Nor should its results be treated as indisputably legitimate. The courts may have permitted Republicans to rig this election, but Wisconsinites are under no obligation to pretend that its outcome reflects the will of the people.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/supreme-court-wisconsin-absentee-ballots.html

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