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Here is the comprehensive list of all clinical trials currently ongoing, or about to start, in relation to COVID-19. For those that want to keep tabs on what treatments are being looked at, or are in the pipeline.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19


A number of trials for hydroxycholoroquine, and even one for sildenafil (Viagara), lol!


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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
It will be of interest to me to watch how they respond to the 2nd wave.

Do they allow it to grow larger? Do they go back into full-on lockdown like they were, or will they adopt a more lenient lockdown like we're seeing here in the west?

At this point, they've had two and a half months to prepare for the second wave they MUST know is coming, which should include stockpiling gear... and you know they have it stockpiled now because they've actually been shipping gear out to Italy and the rest of Europe and there's no way they do that if they haven't taken care of their own shortfalls.

Also, what does this mean for the global supply chains? Do they keep themselves running enough for the rest of the world to get the resources they so badly need? Afterall, more than half the problems we're having with things are a direct result of global supply chains being broken.


One thing should be a foregone conclusion: this event should be the deathknell for China as the global manufacturing hub. If nothing else but strategic self-preservation, we MUST secure as many domestic sources of manufacturing as possible.


Death knell for China as the global manufacturing hub? The answer to that lies the reason they had such success in the first place, Profit and Greed. Corporations are not going to sacrifice profit for a sense of patriotism, we know that. Billionaires are not going to suddenly decide to make investments in American based manufacturing out of the kindness of their hearts without incentives. The depression era post COVID-19 economic devastation is not going to make America more attractive for wouldbe manufacturing investments. Our minimum wage workforce would still be one of the most costly in the world, not to mention our lack of tech savvy automation experts.

Automation is another beast altogether that will further lend to the decimation of our overall economy in the years to follow COVID-19. What company in their right mind is going to tool a new manufacturing facility to provide jobs like factories in the 50s-80s? No sir, robot's don't eat. They don't have families with homes or cars, they don't need vacations or sick days... All they need is minimal maintenance.

America's shopping happy consumer economy has driven the building of strong middle classes in China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, and India who will all compete for any tech savvy / automation / labor jobs. You also have an emerging middle classes in places like the Philippines and Indonesia that will compete for labor jobs. So even if we bring back steel mills and textiles in America for the sake of national security production, the markets will limit their manufacturing to almost 100% automation or make them unable to compete on a world stage. Every day will not be a national emergency and CEOs will need to drive a profit unless these industries are nationalized which would be socialism...

So I'd bet, at the end of the day, our leaders on both sides of the aisle will try to return to "normal" before attempting anything sensible because the money behind them is only interested in ROI.


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Not for patriotism, absolutely no. For precisely greed and profit. Every company out there that has had their supply lines disrupted, or outright halted, by this will be doing two things:

1.) looking for alternative sources closer to home
2.) looking at not putting all their eggs in one basket

Additionally, companies, at least in the near term, will begin to look at going back to maintaining more stock of materials on hand. This entire thing has grossly exposed the biggest weakness with "just-in-time" supply chains which have been gaining popularity over the years.

More than patriotism, companies want to stay in production. You cannot do that without materials.


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I get what you are saying and the angle you see, but I just don't see the economics of the situation bringing manufacturing jobs to America. Even if the DOW bounces back to 29K+, people go back to work in the next few weeks, and most of those job losses are recouped... The cost of all of this to the system, the bills of the working class, and the uncertainty of a round two infection are going to create a severe recession like economy for the rest of 2020 at least. Who is going to invest heavily in shelf stock and new facilities for the sake of better supply chains in that environment? I can see looking for closer existing suppliers. I can even see building some stock. But I don't see it creating a ton of new jobs, NOR do I see an economic scenario this good for us to work with. I honestly think we will be in lock down for the duration of spring and well into summer.

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Gonna leave further discussion of it for the other thread. I have an article I'll post that details things better.


Update on my buddy: Generally all good news. Awake and down to 30-40% O², but they did start him on dialysis to help his kidneys.
So, still a ways to go, but things are looking way better than they were.


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Happy to hear there are at least some signs of improvement.


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He tested positive for #COVID19 on March 30th and was the second officer to test positive in the Marion facility. He worked in the control center handing out equipment to staff. He had underlying health conditions.
https://twitter.com/GovMikeDeWine/status/1247949185242009600

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The mitigation data is great news. We haven't hit our peak yet but instead of being at 10,000 cases per day as projected at peak, we're now at 2,000 cases per day projected.

This will be over with by June.

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This will be over with by June.


Not quite.

This isn't over until we find treatment that actually works.

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A number of trials for hydroxycholoroquine, and even one for sildenafil (Viagara), lol!



I take Sildenafil. It's also used for pulmonary arterial hypertension. pulmonary arterial hypertension (PAH) means that you have high blood pressure in the arteries that go from your heart to your lungs . It's different from having regular high blood pressure. With PAH, the tiny arteries in your lungs become narrow or blocked.

I get 30 pills of Sildenafil for $ 24.00 A Viagra pill is like $ 20.00 for one pill. I normally take 2 and let me tell you I feel great after taking it ..It really helps those tiny arteries in my tiny organ..

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Any reliance on China to do ANYTHING is a major problem. We need to start getting away from them in every form possible. I would pay more knowing I'd be buying something made in America and I'd do it happily.

Essential products in the United States MUST be made here at all costs.


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Originally Posted By: DeisleDawg
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A number of trials for hydroxycholoroquine, and even one for sildenafil (Viagara), lol!



I take Sildenafil. It's also used for pulmonary arterial hypertension. pulmonary arterial hypertension (PAH) means that you have high blood pressure in the arteries that go from your heart to your lungs . It's different from having regular high blood pressure. With PAH, the tiny arteries in your lungs become narrow or blocked.

I get 30 pills of Sildenafil for $ 24.00 A Viagra pill is like $ 20.00 for one pill. I normally take 2 and let me tell you I feel great after taking it ..It really helps those tiny arteries in my tiny organ..


So your saying it's better that we mooned everybody instead of flashing them shocked


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We're grinding the axe.


Not sure if related but....

Here's Jeb "Grinding the Crack".


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So has Ohio hit the peak? It looks like exponential growth is slowing with that latest graph?

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No, we're not close to peaking, yet.

Remember, today's cases are really a view of what happened two weeks ago; like looking at the light of a distant star.

What you're seeing is the curve flattening now, but still going up. Two weeks ago, we were still settling in to the lockdown and more stringent measures were still being rolled out.

Since people are still moving around and still going places and still having contact at markets and other places, the spread will continue, albeit slowed dramatically. Growth will no longer be exponential, but it will still be there.


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curious how many people are at the statehouse for that protest. You can certainly hear them. Something tells me they're not practicing social distancing...


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