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Oh, THAT is disconcerting as Hell!



Side note: The US passed Spain by a large margin for 2nd place in deaths today. We are over 16,000 and will likely take the lead from Italy before the weekend is over.


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This is an interesting animated visual of Coronavirus deaths vs other epidemics since the year 2000. Starts from day 1 of each virus/diseas caused death. Just press play on the graph.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful...cs_from_day_of/

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Question is will there be a 2nd wave.

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Very informative thank you


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I mentioned before my brother is a CRNA in NY. He signed up to go to help out in NJ because of the surge in need for help in the ICU. He told me this morning before his one day of orientation before beginning ICU work at the hospital that they are no longer resuscitating any patient that codes.

He just updated me and said that nearly every patient at that hospital has covid-19. 10 patients coded during his first few hours of orientation and there is currently a refrigerated truck out back of the hospital being loaded with bodies.

Also, many of the staff have been/were infected, but a number of them have recovered and returned to work.

Pretty crazy.

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That's just crazy to see it in relation to all the others.


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He just updated me and said that nearly every patient at that hospital has covid-19. 10 patients coded during his first few hours of orientation and there is currently a refrigerated truck out back of the hospital being loaded with bodies.


I have a friend working a ICU in NYU who posted about how strange it is to be in an ICU with 50 patients who all have the exact same treatment plan. It becomes this hurried but monotonous practice of:

1.) Go to patient
2.) Decide whether to turn ventilator up or down
3.) Document
4.) Go to next patient.


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Question is will there be a 2nd wave.


Almost certainly. Everywhere there are restrictions, there will almost certainly be a second wave as restrictions are eased or lifted.

The fact that it is infectious and novel has not changed. As things are eased, it will find it easier to spread and there will be another wave. Hopefully, though, once this first wave passes, we can kinda get back to normal-ish, but while maintaining social distancing, and maybe get parts of the economy going again while still keeping hospitals from imploding.

No concerts, trade shows, or movie theaters, but people can maybe go back to work and retail shops could re-open.


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He just updated me and said that nearly every patient at that hospital has covid-19. 10 patients coded during his first few hours of orientation and there is currently a refrigerated truck out back of the hospital being loaded with bodies.


I have a friend working a ICU in NYU who posted about how strange it is to be in an ICU with 50 patients who all have the exact same treatment plan. It becomes this hurried but monotonous practice of:

1.) Go to patient
2.) Decide whether to turn ventilator up or down
3.) Document
4.) Go to next patient.


Makes ya dream of connecting them all back to a central monitoring station where each could be adjusted remotely.


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Portage County.....

State identifies coronavirus cluster in Portage area

By Diane Smith / Reporter
Posted Apr 8, 2020 at 2:35 PM
Updated Apr 8, 2020 at 6:16 PM

A map depicting clusters of coronavirus cases in Ohio puts Portage County in the cross hairs of a “strong cluster” of cases in the northeastern corner of the state.

Gov. Mike DeWine posted the map on social media Tuesday. It depicts various spots in Ohio where the virus seems to be spreading.

“We’re starting to see hotspots,” DeWine said. “Near Detroit, near nursing homes, near a prison.That why we’re building up our healthcare system.”

The map depicts dots, representing positive cases of the virus, scattered throughout Portage County. A crosshatched area, which the map calls a “strong cluster,” encompasses most of Portage County, as well as its borders at Stark County and Summit County, as well as parts of Mahoning and Trumbull counties.

Christopher Woolverton, professor of epidemiology at Kent State University’s College of Public Health, said that if the map could be compared to a Google map, the cases might be in places where epidemiologists expect more cases, such as nursing homes.

There are nearly a dozen nursing homes in Portage County with hundreds of beds. It’s also home to a hospital.

“At the beginning of a pandemic, you look at individual cases,” he said. “But as it starts to spread, you look at trends. After that, you can start looking at the direction that it’s spreading to.”

Portage County had 108 positive cases as of Wednesday, an increase of seven from Tuesday. The number of hospitalizations rose to 27, a slight increase from Tuesday.

Eight Portage County residents have died from coronavirus as of Tuesday, with the virus claiming the life of a woman over the age of 80. The virus has claimed the lives of six people age 80 or older, one in their 70s and one in her 60s. Those who have died include five women and three men.

Becky Lehman, public information officer for the Portage County Health District, said DeWine’s analysis “is a statistical approach that looks at expected versus observed confirmed case counts within a given area and a relative risk is calculated.”

She said the cluster reinforces basic recommendations, such as maintaining a safe social distance, staying at home except for essential activities, wearing a mask in places such as a grocery store or pharmacy, washing your hands, avoid touching your face, avoiding contact with people who are sick and staying home if you are ill.

Some replied to DeWine’s tweet claiming that that the hotspots are all in big cities, but that’s not the case for Portage. That hotspot encompasses Portage County as well as the borders of nearby counties, such as Stark, Summit, Mahoning and Trumbull. Yet Portage County was the last county of the five to see positive cases, and still has fewer cases than its neighbors.

Woolverton said often, areas where a pandemic tends to spread are borders with neighboring states, because despite the governor’s “stay at home” orders, some travel still takes place. Some areas of concentration are near the state’s borders with Michigan and Pennsylvania. A large area near the state’s southern border is depicted as a “weak cluster.”

“People continue to travel, and the virus goes with them,” he said. “As epidemiologists, that’s what we’re watching.”

Other confirmed cases in Portage County include one person under the age of 20; two in their 20s, one of whom is hospitalized; nine people in their 30s, two hospitalized; eight in their 40s, two hospitalized; 16 patients in their 50s, two hospitalized; 12 in their 60s, including three hospitalizations; 21 in their 70s, seven hospitalized; and 39 people age 80 or older, including nine hospitalizations.

Reporter Diane Smith can be reached at 330-298-1139 or dsmith@recordpub.com.

https://www.record-courier.com/news/20200408/state-identifies-cluster-in-portage





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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Oh, THAT is disconcerting as Hell!



Side note: The US passed Spain by a large margin for 2nd place in deaths today. We are over 16,000 and will likely take the lead from Italy before the weekend is over.


We also have 7 times (or so) the population of Spain, and more than 5 times the population of Italy.


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Yup. It was really only a matter of time, and math, but it is still an unhappy milestone. Like the milestone where the world will hit 100,000 deaths tomorrow. It was just a matter of time, but ... well, here it is.


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A week or so ago I posted about the CC and UH possibly setting up a temp, if needed hospital, inside the IX center.

Nyet.....

The CC and Case Western Reserve now have a plan in place "IF NEEDED" for 1000 beds inside of Case Western Reserve.

Again......If needed.

Also, CC is asking for volunteers (docs/nurses) to go to NYC and Detroit to help. They'll be compensated.

A lot are going. That's what they do.

Shout out to all docs and nurses.

I'll never forget this. Yeeears ago when I was a produce mgr at your local and my wife was an RN at a local hospital. She was also on "The Code Team". A couple of decades ago her and I sat down for dinner one night and I brought up the nightly "how was work today?"

Her: "OK. We went to lunch and as soon as we sat down a code came over the PA system. WE NEED SO AND SO AND SO AND SO, STAT!!! So we jumped up and ran. By the time we got there the guy was pretty gray". I can't tell you how times I hit him with the paddles. We worked on him for about an hour and we finally got him to pink back up". nanner

Then she asks, "how was your work". rofl

What do I say? What could I say. WHADDYA SAY???

ME: "It was ok". rofl

So, again. Thanks to all caregivers.






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I mentioned before my brother is a CRNA in NY. He signed up to go to help out in NJ because of the surge in need for help in the ICU. He told me this morning before his one day of orientation before beginning ICU work at the hospital that they are no longer resuscitating any patient that codes.

He just updated me and said that nearly every patient at that hospital has covid-19. 10 patients coded during his first few hours of orientation and there is currently a refrigerated truck out back of the hospital being loaded with bodies.

Also, many of the staff have been/were infected, but a number of them have recovered and returned to work.

Pretty crazy.


That is insane, Milk. I am not very religious, but I'll pray for your brother. He is a true hero!

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I mentioned before my brother is a CRNA in NY. He signed up to go to help out in NJ because of the surge in need for help in the ICU. He told me this morning before his one day of orientation before beginning ICU work at the hospital that they are no longer resuscitating any patient that codes.

He just updated me and said that nearly every patient at that hospital has covid-19. 10 patients coded during his first few hours of orientation and there is currently a refrigerated truck out back of the hospital being loaded with bodies.

Also, many of the staff have been/were infected, but a number of them have recovered and returned to work.

Pretty crazy.



It's utterly insane that we've gotten there. I'm just grateful that we likely won't see that here in Ohio.


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I had to tell most of my staff I'm cutting their hours in half today.... get to tell the rest of them tomorrow... lots of crying and one ended up quitting... fun day...


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I mentioned before my brother is a CRNA in NY. He signed up to go to help out in NJ because of the surge in need for help in the ICU. He told me this morning before his one day of orientation before beginning ICU work at the hospital that they are no longer resuscitating any patient that codes.

He just updated me and said that nearly every patient at that hospital has covid-19. 10 patients coded during his first few hours of orientation and there is currently a refrigerated truck out back of the hospital being loaded with bodies.

Also, many of the staff have been/were infected, but a number of them have recovered and returned to work.

Pretty crazy.



It's utterly insane that we've gotten there. I'm just grateful that we likely won't see that here in Ohio.


We hope. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. If we end protocol too early it could turn. And even if we do everything right there could be issues still coming our way. We'll start seeing mental health and other issues ticking up soon. There are a lot of people NOT going to their doctors for other things right now and stress is getting higher every day.

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The state of California, like Ohio, has been knocking it out of the park so far. Specifically LA. Anyone who has symptoms, is a healthcare worker, a critical government worker, a first responder, is over 65, can't go to work because they have been in contact with someone who has the virus, and/or has underlying chronic health conditions can get tested for free at a drive thru testing center throughout the county.


I'm going to get tested tomorrow at Dodger Stadium. We'll see how it goes.

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The state of California, like Ohio, has been knocking it out of the park so far. Specifically LA. Anyone who has symptoms, is a healthcare worker, a critical government worker, a first responder, is over 65, can't go to work because they have been in contact with someone who has the virus, and/or has underlying chronic health conditions can get tested for free at a drive thru testing center throughout the county.


I'm going to get tested tomorrow at Dodger Stadium. We'll see how it goes.


Praying for a good report ...


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Update on my buddy... Good News on Good Friday:

[words are his wife's]
"Doctors decided to remove him from the ventilator as of yesterday evening. He has been breathing on his own since then. He is getting between 93-94% oxygen on his own. The goal is that he gets 100% oxygen on his very own but we have to take it one step at the time. He is moving & talking a little. However, he is very weak & his voice is very raspy because of the breathing tube they just removed. He still cannot move his arms and legs very well. Doctors are going to try to see if they can get him to eat today so he regains some of his energy back. The plan is to place him back in dialysis today just for a few hours. Since he is breathing on his own without the ventilator, the hope is that his body will start kicking in the proper kidney functions soon."


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I had to tell most of my staff I'm cutting their hours in half today.... get to tell the rest of them tomorrow... lots of crying and one ended up quitting... fun day...


No doubt that's a sad deal.

My son-in-laws brother-in-law owns 12-14 restaurants(Ohio and Fla). Knowing that the shutdown would most prob be for a while, he let the "non mgmt staff" divvy up the food on hand in the freezers and coolers first. The waiters, waitresses, cooks, etc. I know him fairly well. Pretty good down to earth guy.

No doubt a write-off but still.





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I wanted to say something about a wonderful thing a local restaurant has done for a local family.

Our church, in conjunction with the Struthers city schools, usually does a Easter dinner for those in need. We have a family that we have helped with food in the past. The wife lost her job before this whole COVID-19 started, and has had a hard time finding anything since. Our pastor had offered to provide an Easter dinner for them. Unfortunately, things changed, and closed, and we were unable to provide as we had in the past.

I was calling around to some local restaurants to see what I could find for them. I called our local Bob Evans, in Boardman, and while explaining the situation to the manager, and seeing what would be the most reasonable way to go, (because, since our church has been closed for 4 or 5 weeks now, and only limited offerings have some in by mail) she offered to take care of it for them. She is also providing meals for her employees who had to be laid off.

Difficult times really do seem to bring out the best in many people. (and companies, for that matter) I just wanted to salute this restaurant. If you're ever in Boardman, stop in and give them your patronage.


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Fran offering some fun tips! I think she's cutting Gov. DeWine's hair as well. It's not getting any longer!


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I worked in Monrovia in the late 90s at a jewelery store corporate headquarters (think it was Samuels Jewelers) for about a year as a contractor. My desk faced the mountains, which I didn't even know were there because you couldn't see them through the smog. One day, for some reason, the smog cleared and I had an amazing view from my desk. I said something to the manger about how amazing the view was and he replied "oh no, it's a terrible day, we don't trust any air we can't see"


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I'm going to get tested tomorrow at Dodger Stadium. We'll see how it goes.


Thankful they have tests in Califorinia.

I've got a lil song stuck in my head, thought of it, kind of catchy.

They can test the president two times a week,
They can test a tiger in a zoo!
They can test South Koreans' 10,000 a day
But they can't test me or you! HOO!
No they won't test me or you! HOO!

The slightly frustrating impression that mass testing won't come to Ohio until two years after the vaccine,
and so, dang the torpedoes.

Oh well, dang the torpedoes; if New York State keeps increasing cases at 10% a day they'll reach 1 million by or before May 1, ehh,
Mabye it's not a 2nd wave, maybe a sustained wave, the thing is, is seeing constantly a verge of it could get better it could get worse it's an either or, up in the air; like a car dangling halfway over a cliff.

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I had a cough for about a week and a half that would not go away. It was not a dry cough like is usually associated with COVID-19. I also did not have any other symptoms. I wasn't going to get tested because I am not in the age range for people who are in danger but the reports were people were not showing up for tests, so I decided to make an appointment.

They have a testing center set up in one of the parking lots outside Dodger Stadium. There was almost no one there. The test was pretty simple. Here is the video tutorial they sent me on what to do:



I will hear back via email within the next two days.

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NYC Is Taking Hundreds of Body Bags Out of Houses—and Soon They Will Be Counted
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New York City officials say they will begin to report those who’ve died in their homes from suspected coronavirus complications without an official lab diagnosis.
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The coronavirus death count in New York City, already unfathomable, is expected to surge in the coming days as officials begin including people who have been dropping dead at home without an official diagnosis.

Emergency Medical Service data first reported by Gothamist suggests the undercount of individuals who have likely died from the virus is massive. On Tuesday alone, 256 people were pronounced dead at home across the five boroughs. Until this month, about 25 people in New York City were found dead in their homes on a typical day, suggesting that most of Tuesday’s calls were related to the outbreak that has already killed over 5,400 people across the state and infected 140,386 more.

According to New York City Fire Department data obtained by The Daily Beast, first responders have reported 2,192 “dead-on-arrival” calls over the last two weeks. On average, the department handled about 453 of those calls over the same period last year.

That data also showed that the number of cardiac or respiratory arrest calls has exploded, from 20 to 30 a day at the end of March and the beginning of April in 2019, to 322 on one day in April in 2020—with more than 100 calls every day since March 28. While 30 to 50 percent of those calls ended in a death in 2019, more than 50 percent of those calls have ended in a death every day since March 22 this year, with the percentage steadily rising to 75 percent as of April 5.


“Every person with a lab-confirmed COVID-19 diagnosis is counted in the number of fatalities, whether they passed away at home or in a hospital,” a spokesperson for the NYC Department of Health and Mental Hygiene said in a statement to The Daily Beast. “The Office of the Chief Medical Examiner (OCME) and the NYC Health Department are working together to include into their reports deaths that may be linked to COVID but not lab-confirmed that occur at home.”

They did not specify when the city will begin reporting that data, but the decision to include the possible virus-related fatalities comes after Gothamist’s report about at-home deaths that were likely related to the disease and not included in the city’s reports.

While New York City reported over 400 coronavirus deaths in less than 24 hours on Wednesday, that number did not include those who died in non-hospital settings without a formal lab diagnosis.

While initially refusing to discuss his administration’s reporting system, Mayor Bill de Blasio on Wednesday agreed the city should include home deaths to give an accurate account of the tragedy ravaging the city. He acknowledged that a “vast majority” of deaths at home are “coronavirus related.”

“The blunt truth is coronavirus is driving these very tragic deaths,” de Blasio said on CNN. “We’re talking about something like 100, 200 people per day. Don’t take this disease ever lightly because the real death toll is even higher.”

The mayor added that New York—currently the epicenter of the pandemic in the United States—has seen more deaths in the “last couple of days” than “the number of people who died in the World Trade Center.”

State and city officials are still struggling to track the number of coronavirus cases, as officials believe there are a number of individuals infected with the virus who have not, or cannot, be tested.

One emergency room doctor told The Daily Beast that his hospital is “aggressively sending people home.”

“Being in the hospital is not going to change their course of illness,” the physician said, indicating the hard choices medical professionals face during this pandemic.

De Blasio said that he was hopeful the virus was starting to slow after seeing indications that the city’s overwhelmed hospital system was seeing fewer admissions—until he learned that hundreds of people are dying in their homes without seeking medical care.

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“We never saw anything like this in normal times,” he added. “We have to acknowledge that, and say this is further evidence of just how destructive this disease is.”

On Wednesday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said that 779 more people had died across the state, marking the second day in a row that the Empire State saw an increase in deaths related to the pandemic.

“If the hospitalization rate keeps decreasing the way it is now, then the system should stabilize these next couple of weeks, which will minimize the need for an overflow that we have built into the system,” Cuomo said, adding that “the number of deaths, as a matter of fact, will continue to rise as those hospitalized for a longer period of time pass away.”

The death toll has already overwhelmed city hospitals and morgues. To deal with the flood of bodies, 45 refrigerated trucks have been set up across the five boroughs, some of which are already full, and a temporary morgue has been erected outside Bellevue Hospital in Midtown Manhattan. The Federal Emergency Management Agency said last week that New York will also receive 250 ambulances, about 500 EMTs and paramedics, and 85 more refrigerated trucks to help with the overload.

On Monday, de Blasio, who’d previously refused to detail any plans for mass burials, said that the city has contingency plans in place if needed to bury COVID-19 victims in temporary plots on Hart Island, which has been used as New York’s potter’s field for 150 years, until morgues and cemeteries can handle the influx.

“We’re going to try and treat every family with dignity, respect, religious needs of those who are devout, and the focus right now is to try to get through this crisis and obviously also put all of our energy and resources into saving those we can save,” de Blasio said. “That’s how we’re going to go about it. We’ll have the capacity for temporary burials. That’s all I’m going to say.”

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Hey Deisle, I see you are still working as we are. i have been told not to work till further notice because of high fever. Suck's I moved back to Ohio to take care of my parents, and now cant do that. Prayer's to you and all on this board.

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