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Yet they only sited one democrat. Ilhan Omar.

That's those propaganda spin doctors at Faux News making sure they keep the simple minded whipped up into a tizzy while the heist goes on...

An anonymous source told me there are a lot of others though... that's what many people are saying.. here is one example of a guy on Twitter saying it.

More than 80% of the Tax Relief in the Bailout Bill will go to People earning more than $1M per year:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/14/coronavirus-law-congress-tax-change/

That is disgusting, especially when they cap the income at just below $200k for stimulus checks.

Republicans have become unapologetically pathological in their desire to make sure the rich keep getting richer.. and unapologetic about not caring what it does to the national debt to make sure it happens.

Will be curious to see if anybody can offer any type of reasonable explanation as to why this is a good idea...

I dont really have a problem with that. Its directed to small and medium business owners. They are the ones who will provide the majority of the jobs when the economy opens back up.

Sadly, this small business owner is just hanging on. Barely. As of now, to my knowledge, I don't qualify for any help, as I'm self employed, and have no verifiable payroll - as I don't have a payroll. I would guess some on here might be happy to here that, though.

Here ya go.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2020/04/13/stimulus-check-everything-need-know/

Thanks. I, and my wife, qualify for the stimulus check. But sorry, a total of $2400 just doesn't cut it for us, and those checks are a minimum of a month away.

We'll be okay short term, but if I don't start getting jobs, things will turn south, right quick.

Sincerely hoping things get right ASAP and business picks up for you.

You may be eligible for a small business loan that you dont have to pay back. Not tied to payroll.

https://www.sba.gov/disaster-assistance/coronavirus-covid-19

Thanks. I'll look into it.

Never, in my 17 years of doing what I do, despite the good years, and the bad years - never did I think a virus would sink me. Never.

It is on pass through of capital gains, not exactly a small business concept.

You only have that if you are buying and selling property or stock.

A lot of small businesses are set up as S-Corp, this is not the type of pass through that would be rare.

Based on that article it only applies to certain business owners. LLC and S-Corp. These are generally small to medium size businesses. Not giant corporations.

You ain't done yet.
Explore every option.
Fight the entire way.

When all these families start getting back to normal life, you're gonna have more work than you can handle...

I can only hope. It's tough out here for the small guy that was never going to be a millionaire. Just told a lady today that asked when I could retire........I said "never" I worry my ass off..........can't sleep for crap, yet can't get out of bed. This morning was the earliest in I couldn't say how long. 7:39 am.

It looks like we have not peaked on the deaths yet. Today we beat our previous high total by almost 350.

Trivial Fact, Koch Industries is the largest S Corp in the USA.

Pretty sure the goal wasn't to prop up some outliers.

Interesting thing I noticed in the data tonight:

USA
Population - 330 million
Total Cases - 614,000
Total Deaths - 26,050
Deaths/1 million - 79

Next 5 nations on the list combined (Spain, Italy, France, Germany, United Kingdom)
Population - 324 million
Total Cases - 706,000
Total Deaths - 70,650
Deaths/1 million - 218

We’re under reporting deaths. People are dying in nursing homes. They’re not tested. They’re not counting them. I’m watching it unfold in my city. I’m sure it’s happening all over the country.

We're way under reporting deaths.

They only want to test people who are very ill or have pre existing conditions.

It's not good, but at the same time if there are way more mild cases that don't get tested, then ultimately the death rate is lower and we just don't know it.

Here bro, I hope this helps.

https://www.record-courier.com/ZZ/busine...e-self-employed

Most never expect what hits them the hardest. Take it from a voice of experience. Sorry to see you going through this.

These are the numbers the OHA and Gov. Kate Browns office are reporting...they're not being truthful?


Data current as of 4/14/2020, 8:00 a.m. Updated daily.
Positive 1,633
Negative 30,730
Total persons tested 32,363
Total deaths 55

https://govstatus.egov.com/OR-OHA-COVID-19

They're being truthful from the data they can gather. It's hard to gather more data when you're data gathering instrument is in high demand with little supply.

It's been reported that testing capability is maxed out in many states, and DeWine along with Dr. Acton says there are many more cases than what they report every single day.

Medics in NY are encountering bodies that were left in homes that are suspected covid victims. We may or may not have the same going on here, but I think that's what Portland was getting at.

Day before yesterday, it was all him..he's the one that makes the decision. He got pushback and boom, he backs down, AGAIN.... Weak

It seems that some think everyone who dies in a nursing home these days dies from Covid.

I thought I heard that they're aware of potentially under-reporting, and might be swinging back in the other direction. Some of this is tied back to us not knowing enough about the virus.

Or it is like what is happening in the 5 boroughs of NYC where they have had as many as 250 additional people in a day die in their homes-the get the call of a DOA. They never were tested, never went to a hospital, never got any help. The medical people assume that they are COVID or COVID enhanced symptons-but the medical examiner will never have time to autopsy or give them a test post mortem. Almost 4000 additional people in one city-


It looks like NYC is talking to the Gov to see about adding the deaths to the list.

‘This is COVID-19, not COVID-1!’ Kellyanne Conway uncorks scientifically illiterate rant against WHO on Fox & Friends
Published 2 hours ago on April 15, 2020By Brad Reed
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Trump White House counselor Kellyanne Conway uncorked a bizarre rant against the World Health Organization on Wednesday, hours after President Donald Trump said he was freezing funding to the group.

In defending the president’s controversial move, Conway blamed the group for not being more on the ball when it came to handling the COVID-19 pandemic.

“We have every right to know because of what’s happened here in this global pandemic, but there’s another reason, some of the scientists and doctors say that there could be other strains later on, this could come back in the fall in a limited way,” she said. “This is COVID-19, not COVID-1, folks! And so you would think the people in charge of the World Health Organization facts and figures should be on top of that right now.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/this-is...on-fox-friends/

It probably isn't going anywhere

Coronavirus Relief: Proposed Bill Would Give Americans $2,000 A Month During Pandemic
April 15, 2020 at 12:04 pmFiled Under:Coronavirus, Stimulus, Tim Ryan



PITTSBURGH (KDKA) — Two House Democrats have introduced legislation that would give millions of Americans $2,000 per month during the coronavirus pandemic.
The new bill is called the Emergency Money for the People Act.

It was introduced by Rep. Tim Ryan, D-Ohio, and Rep. Ro Khanna, D-Calif.

In a press release, Congressman Ryan says:

“The economic impact of this virus is unprecedented for our country. As millions of Americans file for unemployment week over week, we have to work quickly to patch the dam – and that means putting cash in the hands of hard-working families.”
The act would expand relief to more Americans and includes a $2,000 monthly payment to every qualifying American over the age of 16 until employment returns to pre-COVID-19 levels.

“A one-time, twelve hundred dollar check isn’t going to cut it,” said Rep. Ro Khanna in a press release. “Americans need sustained cash infusions for the duration of this crisis in order to come out on the other side alive, healthy, and ready to get back to work. Members on both sides of the aisle are finally coming together around the idea of sending money out to people. Rep. Ryan and I are urging leadership to include this bill in the fourth COVID relief package to truly support the American working class.”

Pennsylvania Congressman Mike Doyle was an original co-sponsor of the bill. More than a dozen other members of Congress also support the bill.

Congressman Ryan says the bill also fixes a bug in the CARES Act to ensure college students and adults with disabilities can still receive the payments even if claimed as a dependent.

The Emergency Money for the People Act additionally recognizes that not everyone has a bank or a home address to receive a check – so it allows individuals to get this money through direct deposit, check, pre-paid debit card, or mobile money platforms such as Venmo, Zelle, or PayPal.

Here are the eligibility requirements:

Eligibility:

Every American adult age 16 and older making less than $130,000 annually would receive at least $2,000 per month.
Married couples earning less than $260,000 would receive at least $4,000 per month.
Qualifying families with children will receive an additional $500 per child – families will receive funds for up to three children.
For example, a married couple making under $260K with 3 kids would receive $5,500 per month.
Those who had no earnings, were unemployed, or are currently unemployed would also be eligible.
Those who were not eligible in 2019 or 2018 but would be eligible in 2020, could submit at least two consecutive months of paychecks to verify income eligibility.
The Emergency Money for the People Act also expands the program to millions more Americans who were excluded from the CARES cash rebates – such as college students and adults with disabilities who are still claimed as a dependent. The individual will receive the payment and their parent or guardian will receive the dependent credit.
Reps. Ryan and Khanna proposed the first cash infusion plan a month ago, which the Administration and Senate Republicans embraced, and was passed into law with the CARES Act.
The Emergency Money for the People Act has been introduced by Rep. Ryan and Rep. Khanna as well as the following Original Co-sponsors: Earl Blumenauer (OR-3), Judy Chu (CA-27), Diana DeGette (CO-1), Mike Doyle (PA-18), Adriano Espaillat (NY-13), Eliot L. Engel (NY-16), Pramila Jayapal (WA-7), Ted Lieu (CA-33), Joe Neguse (CO-2), Mary, Gay Scanlon (PA-5), Darren Soto (FL-9), Rashida Tlaib (MI-13), Nydia Velázquez (NY-7), Bonnie Watson Coleman (NJ-12), Grace Meng (NY- 6), Alan Lowenthal (CA-47), and Barbara Lee (CA-13)

And here's what happens when someone asks him what he did during the entire month of February to help prepare for the virus they were warned was coming. Pointing out the things he refused to do.



All he can do is revert back to January and attack the reporter.

Here's what happens when a reporter asks him what he has to say to people who are scared due to the virus. You know, a softball question that opened the door for him to show some kindness and compassion.



He's such a disgusting human being.

South Dakota Refused To Shut Down, Now Faces One Of The Largest Coronavirus Outbreaks In The Country

South Dakota, one of five remaining states yet to issue a statewide stay-at-home order, now has one of the largest coronavirus outbreaks in the United States—with 300-plus cases at the world’s biggest pork processor Smithfield Foods, raising concern about coronavirus spreading through processed meat and how South Dakota’s rural healthcare facilities will fare with the disease.

More than 300 workers at Smithfield Foods Sioux Falls facility tested positive for coronavirus, accounting for about half of all statewide cases and making the facility—now closed indefinitely—one of the largest coronavirus hotbeds alongside the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt and Cook County Jail in Chicago.

Gov. Kristi Noem is one of five governors yet to issue a statewide stay-at-home order, saying that it is the job of individuals, not the government “to exercise their right to work, to worship and to play. Or to even stay at home.”

On Monday, Noem held a media briefing to announce that South Dakota will be the first to host statewide trials to test hydroxychloroquine for treating and preventing COVID-19, a potential treatment touted by President Trump and entangled in political controversy.

Smithfield Foods is the world’s largest pork processor with over 54,000 employees, processing meats under their namesake brand and for companies like Nathan’s Famous, Cracker Barrel, Farmland, Armour, Kreschmar, John Morell, Healthy Ones and many more, raising concerns about a shortage of meat across America.

12 employees at the Smithfield plant in Arnold, Pennsylvania, have tested positive for coronavirus, though the location remains open, reports the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette; the FDA said last month there is “no evidence of food or food packaging being associated with the transmission of COVID-19.

While states with stay-at-home orders begin to discuss economic reopening and flattening of the new coronavirus case curve, South Dakota’s Department of Health says “the climb is just starting,” with a case peak predicted to occur from May to mid-June, according to Brookings Register.

There has been a total of 868 COVID-19 cases and six deaths in the state of South Dakota, making it the 19th hardest hit state on a per capita basis. Out of South Dakota’s 882,235-person population, 452,214 live in rural settings. This population is poorer, has less access to healthcare and at greater behavioral health risk, including a large portion of chronically underfunded Native American reservations, according to the South Dakota Department of Health, which could lead to severe COVID-19 cases. The onset of coronavirus in rural communities is a cause of concern as their hospitals are likely less equipped to handle COVID-19 and have been shutting down.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandrast...y/#6a5ee5d96d72

That press conference from Monday was one of the wildest, most embarrassing briefings I had ever witnessed, starting with the campaign ad he made the press watch, which prompted Paula Reid's question about the February timeline.

I enjoyed Kaitlan Collins' follow-up after Trump said he has total authority as POTUS.

So Portland has first hand knowledge of the situation in his city and shared it. . . . and your response is to twist what he said so it doesn't have any resemblance of what he said. What ? Are you out to downplay this like you did at the very beginning ... Just trotting out the Trump lines regardless of reality?

I mean he basically told Prp in another thread "oh, your friend is in ICU and not responding to hydrochloroquine? You must now know what you're talking about."

Here's the receipt.

Do you expect much different from him? I could rattle off a few other "40's greatest hits" but it's not worth the time for me or the embarrassment it would cause him.

No, that is not "Basically" what I said.

Last I heard from Purp, his friend was on hydro and was improving.

Hope that is still happening.

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"Well, my buddy is on it and has been since March 31, and he still ended up in the ICU where he still is."

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Update on my buddy... Good News on Good Friday:

[words are his wife's]
"Doctors decided to remove him from the ventilator as of yesterday evening. He has been breathing on his own since then. He is getting between 93-94% oxygen on his own. The goal is that he gets 100% oxygen on his very own but we have to take it one step at the time. He is moving & talking a little. However, he is very weak & his voice is very raspy because of the breathing tube they just removed. He still cannot move his arms and legs very well. Doctors are going to try to see if they can get him to eat today so he regains some of his energy back. The plan is to place him back in dialysis today just for a few hours. Since he is breathing on his own without the ventilator, the hope is that his body will start kicking in the proper kidney functions soon."