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My brother works at the jail, my sister in law is a nurse, and my niece works in a nursing home. Tough times right now. I understand how you feel.

Focus on the upside, man.

If you get it and are even symptomatic, and the vast majority it seems are not, you still have an 80% chance that it will be just a mild case.


Prayers for ya, man. My next door neighbor and the one next to him both work the county jails.... the stress is being felt everywhere, but the odds ARE on your side.

This is what keeps me going.

Best wishes to you, Frenchy, and to your sis, Jay.

Ditto.

It seems like the thing has a Rule of 20 going on.... like, only about 20% of the infections are symptomatic, of those only 20% require hospitalization, and of those, only 20% require the ICU.

Granted, 20% can still be big.... but 20% of 20% of 20% isn't nearly as scary. It is just 8 in every 1000. Less than 1 in 100.

Hoping for the best Jay

j/c:

Can Vitamin D help fight against the coronavirus? Scientist investigate after study found taking the supplement saw 50 per cent fall in chest infections

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8233529/Can-Vitamin-D-help-fight-against-coronavirus.html

Maybe that's why I am OK. I take 5000 IU of vitamin D daily, because I spend less time in the sun that most people do.

Maybe the fact that sunlight causes the body to produce vitamin D is part of the reason that sunlight destroys viruses?

I'll be praying for both you and Jay's sister. The longer this thing goes on the more people it touches on a personal level.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/04...state/24015598/

Why is Georgia so damn slow.

I'm guessing it's because Stacey Abrams lost.

There is little doubt in my mind that she would have handled this in a fashion similar to Ohio's DeWine. Didn't Kemp waste some time early with holding off on beach closings and the like? I also think that Abrams would have known about asymptomatic COVID transmission well in advance of Kemp's admission that it was news to him on April 3.

These are guesses, but the assumption seems reasonable to me.

Everything I've heard and read about her says she's smart, principled and competent. Not saying that Kemp isn't per se, but I think his business background has influenced his decision-making all along. Pretty sure that someone rooted in public service would probably have made different choices serving different priorities.

Like I said, just a guess on my end.
What is your impression of her? You've prob seen more of her than any of us.

Actually I have seen very little from either of them since this started.

I have only seen a Kemp conference about this once.

There doesn't seem to be much guidance for GA unless you go digging for it on the internet.

Maybe that's why we are so slow lol.

It’s so bad, we have brought in the Ohio State Patrol, and the Ohio National Guard because of staff shortages. These are extreme measures for a state prison.

US coronavirus deaths hits record one-day total of 4,591

BY MARINA PITOFSKY - 04/17/20 08:27 AM EDT

Reported US coronavirus deaths hit a record one-day total of 4,591 in 24 hours on Thursday, surpassing a previous high of 2,569 deaths in the U.S. on Wednesday, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of data from Johns Hopkins University.

The number of new coronavirus cases on Thursday was approximately the same as Wednesday, with 31,451 new confirmed infections across the country, according to the outlet.

There have been more than 671,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the U.S. since the outbreak began in China late last year. There have been more than 33,000 deaths. Around the world, there have been more than 2.15 million cases.

The spike came on the same day that President Trump unveiled guidance for a phased reopening of parts of the U.S. economy that largely leaves final decisions to governors across the country.

The guidance recommends that states see a downward trajectory in the number of confirmed cases and flu-like symptoms before moving to lift the stay-at-home orders and other restrictions in states nationwide intended to stem the spread of the virus.

Multiple regional coalitions formed this week as state officials confer with one another on the best course for lifting advisories, including in the Northeast, along the West Coast and in a group of seven Midwestern states.

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/493287...-more-than-4500

This article is more than a little unclear. This is not 4500 deaths in the past 24 hours. Many of those 4500 deaths were reclassified deaths that happened earlier -- (i.e., deaths of unknown causes that have now been attributed to Covid-19).

j/c...

And the price of a barrel of oil is now negative....

Georgia starting Phase One on Friday.

This is probably not a good thing.

Probably not, but we will see how it goes.

A friend of mine told me that Texas just started theirs, too.
I think he said it was basically that all businesses could do curbside pickup.

What does your Phase 1 include?

Its very tempting to go to a restaurant and get the hell out of the house.

But reality is that this virus is still out there, just as dangerous, and there might be a second wave. So I'm not going anywhere until we are well past it and in general safe.

J/C

I think we are in this COVID crap for the long haul. We needed to shut everyone down simultaneously for no less than three weeks no more than four and we did it in fits and starts here and there from state to state. Here in NC liquor stores are open, cause that's essential! Need to be boozed up and need that tax revenue.

A friend of ours, her husband caught Covid19 and for the last three weeks it rode him like a roller coaster. He'd get a little better, then a little worse, a little better, little worse . . . and on and on. The virus worked him over like a boxer works over his opponent. He's still on a vent and has to have dialysis, the dude was a healthy 40 something that jogged and biked regular. The dude was fit as can be and he nearly died multiple times if it weren't for the amazing nurses he had.

This thing scares me. If I get it, I have a feeling it will be my swan song as I am not in as good a health as I was just five years ago . . . but my life means nothing to the almighty dollar and the convenience of a trip to the liquor store.

Sorry folks. I'm just really nervous about this. I try to avoid reading/watching the news as much as I can and I quit Facebook in December cause there is only so much stupidity I could stomach there.

73% Of Inmates At An Ohio Prison Test Positive For Coronavirus

A state prison has become a hot spot of the COVID-19 outbreak in Ohio, with at least 1,828 confirmed cases among inmates — accounting for the majority of cases in Marion County, which leads Ohio in the reported infections. Ohio officials say an aggressive testing program is responsible for the large number.

The large cluster of cases was found through mass testing of everyone at the Marion Correctional Institution; 109 staff members were also positive. No COVID-19 deaths have been reported at the prison.

"Because we are testing everyone — including those who are not showing symptoms — we are getting positive test results on individuals who otherwise would have never been tested because they were asymptomatic," the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction says.

There are currently 2,400 coronavirus cases among inmates in Ohio's state prisons, along with 244 staff members. The numbers could rise this week: A prison in Pickaway County began mass testing on Sunday.

With Ohio reporting some 12,919 coronavirus cases as of Monday, the prison system now accounts for more than 20% of the state's cases.

No other state has reported as many cases of COVID-19 behind bars as Ohio, in large part because no other state has tested as many inmates as Ohio.

"They are pulling off mass testing of their entire population inclusive of staff which is something that no other state is doing," says Jennifer Clayton, head of health services for the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Corrections.

Texas, California, Florida and Georgia all have larger prison populations than Ohio — but those states all report significantly fewer coronavirus cases.

Michigan, which has one of the largest outbreaks in the country with more than 30,000 confirmed cases, reports 572 of 889 inmates tested were found to have the coronavirus. More than 200 staff members are also infected.

New York state, whose nearly 250,000 cases account for roughly a third of all U.S. cases, reports just over 1,000 coronavirus cases in its prison system — and most of those infections (794) are among staff. New York says it tests inmates only after they show symptoms and have a medical evaluation.

Because of the COVID-19 pandemic, Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine recently recommended early release for about 300 of the 49,000 inmates who are in Ohio's prison system – far short of the thousands of people the state's American Civil Liberties Union chapter said should be released.

"This is devastating and terrifying, but it was not inevitable," ACLU Ohio Advocacy Counsel Claire Chevrier said via Twitter. She added, "This was a policy choice."

As he gave an update on COVID-19 in his state Monday, DeWine said, "We're looking at more prisoners who can be released." He added that Ohio isn't planning for "a wholesale release where every one in a certain category gets out of prison."

With dozens of staff testing positive for the virus at the Marion and Pickaway prisons, members of the Ohio National Guard are being deployed to bolster operations.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus...for-coronavirus

I bet this is why we saw the one gigantic spike in new cases a couple of days ago.

Probably. We'll see more too as they test other prisons.

My wife's nephew is one of these asymptomatic inmates at Marion, we just found out this morning from her brother. He's there for a drug offense with just over a year left to do.

And we have personal connections to many of the two Madison County prisons. My Son-in-Law just left his job there last year for a better position as a probation officer on the county level. He has friends and family working at the prisons, I have friends there, and my extended family all has friends and or extended family working there.

j/c

I posted this in PP not realizing it was PP

Saw a story on this last night. Thought it was interesting.

https://news.usc.edu/168987/antibody-testing-results-covid-19-infections-los-angeles-county/
Early antibody testing suggests COVID-19 infections in L.A. County greatly exceed documented cases
USC and L.A. County Department of Public Health officials have released the preliminary results of their antibody tests, which show a surprising number of residents have been infected with the coronavirus.
BY Leigh Hopper APRIL 20, 2020

SC and the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health on Monday released preliminary results from a collaborative scientific study that suggests infections from the new coronavirus are far more widespread — and the fatality rate much lower — in L.A. County than previously thought.

FACEBOOK LIVE: Watch Monday’s briefing by USC and L.A. County Department of Public Health officials.
The results are from the first round of an ongoing study by USC researchers and county health officials. They will be conducting antibody testing over time on a series of representative samples of adults to determine the scope and spread of the pandemic across the county.

Based on the results of the first round of testing, the research team estimates that approximately 4.1% of the county’s adult population has an antibody to the virus. Adjusting this estimate for the statistical margin of error implies about 2.8% to 5.6% of the county’s adult population has an antibody to the virus — which translates to approximately 221,000 to 442,000 adults in the county who have been infected. That estimate is 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the county at the time of the study in early April. The number of COVID-related deaths in the county has now surpassed 600.

“We haven’t known the true extent of COVID-19 infections in our community because we have only tested people with symptoms, and the availability of tests has been limited,” said lead investigator Neeraj Sood, professor of public policy at the USC Price School for Public Policy and senior fellow at the USC Schaeffer Center for Health Policy and Economics. “The estimates also suggest that we might have to recalibrate disease prediction models and rethink public health strategies.”

What do the antibody testing results mean for controlling COVID-19?
The results have important implications for public health efforts to control the local epidemic.

“These results indicate that many persons may have been unknowingly infected and at risk of transmitting the virus to others,” said Barbara Ferrer, director of the L.A. County Department of Public Health. “These findings underscore the importance of expanded polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing to diagnose those with infection so they can be isolated and quarantined while also maintaining the broad social distancing interventions.”

The antibody test is helpful for identifying past infection, but a PCR test is required to diagnose a current infection.

“Though the results indicate a lower risk of death among those with infection than was previously thought, the number of COVID-related deaths each day continues to mount, highlighting the need for continued vigorous prevention and control efforts,” said Paul Simon, chief science officer at the L.A. County Department of Public Health and co-lead on the study.

The study’s results have not yet been peer-reviewed by other scientists. The researchers plan to test new groups of participants every few weeks in the coming months to gauge the pandemic’s trajectory in the region.

More on USC/L.A. County testing
With help from medical students from the Keck School of Medicine of USC, USC researchers and public health officials conducted drive-thru antibody testing on April 10 and 11 at six sites. Participants were recruited via a proprietary database that is representative of the county population. The database is maintained by LRW Group, a market research firm.

The researchers used a rapid antibody test for the study. The FDA allows such tests for public health surveillance to gain greater clarity on actual infection rates. The test’s accuracy was further assessed at a lab at Stanford University using blood samples that were positive and negative for COVID-19.

In addition to Sood and Simon, other authors and institutions contributing to the study include Peggy Ebner of the Keck School of Medicine, Daniel Eichner of the Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory, Jeffrey Reynolds of LRW Group and Eran Bendavid and Jay Bhattacharya of the Stanford University School of Medicine.

The study was supported by funding from the USC Schwarzenegger Institute for State and Global Policy, the USC Lusk Center for Real Estate, the USC president’s office, the Jedel Family Foundation, LRW Group, SoapBoxSample and several individual donors.

This is exactly what I was looking for earlier.

Thank you!

I just hope that the Y can re-open on May 1st. My left shoulder is a mess because I don't have the right equipment to continue my rehab. It is getting worse ... and I am convinced that a hand-bike would make a big difference.

Ooh .... I found on on eBay for less than $50. I think that's going to be my birthday present to me.

Happy Birthday Y-Town!

Thank you very much.

Another year older, and another year older.

Happy Birthday Ytown

Thank you.

Happy Birthday!

Please don't blow any candles out though...

Happy Birthday!