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Thanks guys.

Happy Birthday Ytown!

WOW your 75 today

j/c...

Man, you are in a no win situation.. .I'll be thinking of you... Stay safe!

I wish they gave more than just a running 5 day trend. You can't really see trends over just five days.

Also, we're missing discharge numbers.... or, are the hospitalizations numbers a daily count of the current state??

How do these numbers look against our capacities?

I'd like to see it more detailed as well.

I'm under the impression the hospitalizations are an aggregate total that do not take into account patient discharges.

I could be wrong.

Resumption of elective procedures at hospitals, and opening businesses that can enact distancing guidelines.

It's a good start.

I expect barber/beauty shops/hair salons to be opened, too.

Happy birthday young man.

Bars?

He danced around that question. Said barbershops and salons cannot operate at a safe distance. Still thinking about it.

Bars arent part of Phase 1.

Nope.
This is just the proverbial dipping of the toe into the water.
If it isn't too shocking, then maybe on June 1 we can dip a little more in, and maybe even wade out until we're knee deep.

Keep wishing bro. They are not going to give us most of the info we want. I could have 100 neighbors and 99 of them could have coronavirus, but I, you, and the rest of the world be damned before they would tell me that. The Government just want's to cover this crap up and could not give a .... umm crap out us.

Headlines in the Cleveland Plain Dealer

Will Ohio pools, zoos open this summer amid coronavirus risk?

WTF is wrong with you .... oh lord I wish I could add all the words that would get me banned.

Who in the (biting my tongue again until it bleeds) cares if your kids can swim in a public pool, or go to the zoo. PEOPLE ARE DYING YOU DUMB.... (biting my tongue again to keep from getting banned)

Seems a pretty general headline for the Cleveland Plain Dealer, because, if they aren't going to open, they better put the thought in peoples minds early.

(Boy that DQ commercial from last year, "better hurry, DQ's summer deal, plus pools being open only a few more weeks, seems to hit home a lil more, at the thought there would be no public pool type things open all summer long this year. hmm.)

Pools and the Zoo are pretty open places. Outdoor stuff.

Thanks Pit.

This virus keeps spreading because people are idiots.

HIPPA exists for a reason. I know you wouldn't ostracize your neighbors, but a large portion of people would be "OMG THEY HAVE COVID...MOVE AWAY RIGHT NOW".

They have been working at letting close contacts know, and that's honestly the best they can do.

Yep, announcing Frank Shirley over on Melody Lane has covid-19 would not only violate HIPAA, but could prove disastrous.

HBD!!

Letting us know that 6 people in my zip code have covid-19 or if 600 people in my zip code have it does not break any privacy laws.

CDC director warns second wave of coronavirus is likely to be even more devastating

Lena H. Sun 2 hrs ago



Even as states move ahead with plans to reopen their economies, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned Tuesday that a second wave of the novel coronavirus will be far more dire because it is likely to coincide with the start of flu season.

“There’s a possibility that the assault of the virus on our nation next winter will actually be even more difficult than the one we just went through,” CDC Director Robert Redfield said in an interview with The Washington Post. “And when I’ve said this to others, they kind of put their head back, they don’t understand what I mean.”

“We’re going to have the flu epidemic and the coronavirus epidemic at the same time,” he said.

Having two simultaneous respiratory outbreaks would put unimaginable strain on the health-care system, he said. The first wave of covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, has already killed more than 42,000 people across the country. It has overwhelmed hospitals and revealed gaping shortages in test kits, ventilators and protective equipment for health-care workers.

In a wide-ranging interview, Redfield said federal and state officials need to use the coming months to prepare for what lies ahead. As stay-at-home orders are lifted, officials need to stress the continued importance of social distancing, he said. They also need to massively scale up their ability to identify the infected through testing and find everyone they interact with through contact tracing. Doing so prevents new cases from becoming larger outbreaks.

Asked about protests against stay-at-home orders and calls on states to be “liberated” from restrictions, Redfield said: “It’s not helpful.” The president himself has tweeted encouragements of such protests, urging followers to “LIBERATE MINNESOTA!” and “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!”

Redfield said that he, along with other members of the White House coronavirus task force, have emphasized the importance of social distancing “and the enormous impact that it’s had on this outbreak in our nation.”

As part of the White House guidelines released last week for a gradual reopening of the country, testing by CDC teams is already underway in nursing homes in four states for asymptomatic cases. The four states are Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota and Tennessee.

The CDC has also drafted detailed guidance for state and local governments on how they can ease mitigation efforts, moving from drastic restrictions such as stay-at-home orders in a phased way to support a safe reopening. Redfield said that guidance will be “in the public domain shortly.”

The CDC has about 500 staff in the states working on a variety of public health issues, and most will pivot to the covid-19 response, Redfield said. The CDC also plans to hire at least another 650 people as experts to “substantially augment” public health personnel in the states and assist with contact tracing, among other tasks, he said.

But he acknowledged a much larger workforce is needed. Redfield said the agency is talking with state officials about the possibility of using Census Bureau workers and Peace Corps and AmeriCorps volunteers to build “an alternative workforce.”

The Census Bureau had earlier suspended field operations because of the pandemic and census personnel are already located in every jurisdiction, Redfield said. If there is an agreement to use census workers, they could be trained “to be part of a comprehensive contact tracing effort,” he said.
“These are all discussions that are going on to try to determine what is the optimal strategy to be used,” he said. “And it may be some combination of all three.”

Former CDC director Tom Frieden has estimated that as many as 300,000 contact tracers would be needed in the United States. The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security and the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials — which represents state health departments — estimate 100,000 more contact tracers are needed than are in the states now and call for $3.6 billion in emergency funding from Congress.

In the summer months, U.S. health officials need to persuade Americans to think ahead to the fall and the importance of getting flu shots. That way, public health officials can minimize the number of people hospitalized from flu. Getting a flu vaccination, Redfield said, “may allow there to be a hospital bed available for your mother or grandmother that may get coronavirus.”

Luckily, the arrival of the novel coronavirus in the United States came as the regular flu season was waning, he said. By itself, a severe influenza season can strain hospitals and clinics.

If the first wave of the coronavirus outbreak and flu season had peaked at the same time, he said, “it could have been really, really, really, really difficult in terms of health capacity.”

During the 2009 H1N1 swine flu pandemic, the United States experienced the first wave of cases in the spring, followed by a second, larger wave in the fall and winter, during flu season.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-...ocid=spartandhp

I can't say what I really want to because this is not the political forum, but I do wish that people would approach this w/a bit more intelligence, selflessness, and discipline.

We're still not testing like we should. I've heard from nurses who have been directly exposed to patients that have subsequently been tested positive, being told to monitor their temp twice a day and continue reporting to work without being tested themselves.

Then I hear about people (and critters) in NY and Cali getting tested upon request. And people wonder why we have the electoral college.

Well, NY has the most cases (and deaths) -- California actually has done the 4th fewest tests per capita of any state in the US:

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/26/21193848/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths-tests-by-state

Take it up with your county health department. In more populated areas, many of the county health departments are reporting the number of cases per zip code.

For example, here is Cuyahoga County's...

But NY is testing at the highest rate per capita as well as zoo animals, and Cali is testing pretty much anyone that wants it. Their only limitation is "if you have no symptoms and haven't been exposed, you are not guaranteed a test".

I think that it should be a foregone conclusion that the next wave will be bigger. It already has the foothold here and has time to spread; its base will already be a LOT bigger at the outset, so the expansion and impact will be exponentially larger.

I think that regardless of re-opening or not, this will be the case.

We’ll be well over 100,000 dead by summer’s end.