DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2020 NFL Season 2020 NFL Draft Browns select Jordan Elliott with the 88th pick

I'm intrigued by this pick. Really reminds me of a guy we drafted a few years back, Caleb Brantley.

In Elliott, I see him as a high energy guy, with a non-stop motor. He's not gonna beat his guy every time, but he reacts quick, uses his hands well, and has a good mix of moves.

His first opportunity to see the field will likely be in pass situations.

Elliot is very reminiscent of Sheldon Richardson. He is a DT/DE tweener type and could probably make the move to outside.

He is ranked 19th DT. Better wait before we put him in the HOF.

Who ranked him 19th DT? Whosoever it was better find another hobbie, because he has lost his ever loving mind.

Caleb Brantley was an animal .. but only when he tried. Such a weird player.

Let’s hope Elliott has more desire

I can't remember who it was that warned that Brantley was a guy whose motor stalled too often, and whose top gear seemed to be 2nd.

They were right.

*I think it might have been Vers .... but I'm not sure.

Probably a situational interior pass rusher this season who could grow into something more. I like it conceptually. Our pass rush needed more juice at the end of last season. Larry and Sheldon can't play every down and stay super disruptive. The Ekuale type guys that were hyped up didn't look particularly good on Sundays.

Who put him in the HOF?

Yeah, it may have been Peen too because he was from Florida

That sounds right too.

FEATURESNFL Draft: Missouri DT Jordan Elliott says Browns picking him was “meant to happen”by Shaun Bennett April 25, 2020

Defensive tackle Jordan Elliott had no idea where he wanted to play in college, committing to four schools before finally signing with Texas, then leaving after one year and heading to Missouri.

That wasn’t a problem when it came to the NFL.

“It was just something calling my name about the Browns,” Elliott said after being selected by Cleveland at No. 88 in the third round Friday night. “My family member (mother’s boyfriend) was having dreams about me going to play there. So, I don’t know, I feel like it was something that was meant to happen.”

Elliott was the ninth defensive tackle taken in the draft and continued the Browns’ streak of selecting Southeastern Conference players — Cleveland went 4-for-4 from the conference through the first three rounds.

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While the Browns were consistent in showing how impressed they were with the SEC’s talent, Elliott was equally steady when talking about his predraft desire.

“I feel like going to the Browns, I can make a difference on their defensive line and contribute to their defense,” he said. “It was actually something that I was looking forward to. There’s no controlling the draft, but that was the team that I wanted to go to from the start.

“Honestly it was just a feeling that I had a long time ago, probably when I first left (Missouri) for the draft. (The dream) was real random. I don’t even talk about the process with anybody, so for him to have that dream it kind of let me know that’s where I needed to be.”

Browns go all defense on Day 2, starting with LSU safety Grant Delpit

Browns general manager Andrew Berry knew of Elliott’s desire to play for his team, but said it wasn’t a major factor in choosing him.

“I got several texts over the course of the spring, specifically from Jordan’s agents, like, ‘Hey, man, this guy really wants to be in Cleveland, he really wants to be a Brown,’” Berry said. “And that is always sort of neat because you could tell with him it was coming from a very authentic place. When the opportunity came to pick him at what we thought was the appropriate point, it ends up being a really cool story.”

Elliott is the seventh Missouri player drafted by Cleveland and the first since the Browns selected tight end Martin Rucker in the fourth round of the 2008 draft. He has glowing marks on his scouting report and the Browns received favorable grades by online draft experts for the pick. The defensive lineman was asked to describe his skill set.

“I consider myself a playmaker that just disrupts the middle, a pocket pusher in the pass game and just a disciplined run stopper,” he said.

The scouting report also said Elliott battled maturity issues, a trait he acknowledged and believes he’s corrected over the past two years.

He said the multiple college commitments — he pledged allegiance to Baylor, Houston, Texas and Michigan before finally signing with the Longhorns — during his senior year in high school were a big indicator that he needed to grow up.

“That was part of that immaturity,” Elliott said. “That’s not me anymore. When you wake up in the morning you hope you aren’t the same person you were the day before. It’s all about growth, so that’s just my mindset. That was just a small piece of the puzzle.”

https://www.brownszone.com/2020/04/25/nf...eant-to-happen/

j/c

Honestly, I might be most excited about the selection of Elliott among all of the Browns' selections. I've been saying that the team was thin at interior DL for the last couple of seasons. We need to be better stopping the run. I expect Elliott to help.

There was a lot of clutter on the ABJ page so I wasn't able to cut and paste the article but here's a link to an article from Ridenour that gives hints of his potential.

https://www.beaconjournal.com/sports/202...-jordan-elliott

He was one of "my guys" coming into the Draft.

He is a good player.


He could become the steal of the draft. He has the ability to be one of the top 3-4 DT's in the league.

Studying Jordan Elliot's Missouri tape to get a feel for how he won at the college level with quick feet and powerful/heavy hands. We will also touch on a big reason he fell to the 3rd Round and point out where that improvement needs to be made at the NFL level.

For more deep-dive analysis, join us at TheOBR where Jon Stephenson's recent Film Room of Elliot tracked the All-22 over his last two seasons at Missouri and has an abundance of clips providing more insights on his current level of ability.
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Another excellent addition to our Defense

Ty, but I have take take exception with Jake Burns here. Most DL do not consistently beat being double teamed ... no not even Myles Garrett does.

The fact that they thought he needed double teamed is a good sign, not a con on Elliott

I've mentioned elsewhere that I'm excited by the potential of Elliot. The way Burns talked about Elliott's difficulty defeating double teams did not make sense to me either. Jake said he would want Elliot to take his eyes off the ball carrier and to focus his vision on the two blockers who are attacking him. This didn't make sense to me because it does nothing to improve his leverage against two blockers. Also if he is able to defeat the double he's might lose sight of the ball, making him ineffective on the play.

I am by no means a DL expert so I wonder, wouldn't it make sense to try to improve contact balance? Wouldn't it also make more sense to learn to drop his butt to get get a more solid anchor while also using some combination of upper body/hand technique to get his head and shoulder past the blockers then driving his legs to defeat the block?

I also agree with you that if anyone is going to get doubled I'd prefer if to be one of the IDL players because Myles and Vernon would one-on-one with the OL.

Yes, good post, that is pointing out a legitimate issue and addressing proper technique, but a least at that level it did not appear to be a legitimate weakness of his game, which is an indication of good core strength and also his hand useage and ability to disengage seemingly at will is something that will help him see playing time early on in the rotation, while working on the finer points of the proper techniques of his position.

Some times I have to question these guys understanding of the human element in their breakdowns? ... here is where the lines some times gets a little out of focus with reality (seeing as a coach) and leans towards (Gaming) fantasy.

Here's a Best Podcast Available featuring Elliott. Seems like the first extensive interview with him since he was drafted. Among the insights from the interview is that he's putting in work to maintain/increase his leg strength. In general, the interview just reaffirms the good feeling I get about this player.

I am excited about Elliott. Mizzou isn't a SEC top team, but Elliott was a SEC top player. He was a guy the really good teams had to take in to account. Had he played at LSU or Alabama, he might have been a first round pick, and he would have started for them, or Florida, or Georgia, or Auburn, or any of the others.

I think he will become a very good player for us.

If I was drafting, there might be some variances, but I would lean heavily on the SEC and then the Big 10. Those are the two best minor league systems the NFL has. I mean, why not? All things being equal, I am taking someone who played at Mississippi State over somebody who played at New Mexico.

I think he complements the rest of our D-line pretty well with his skill set.

To get him at pick #88 was definitely a steal.

No offense, but I think your post is a huge stretch.

I think the guy is going to be a very good player. I could be wrong.

He might be, but I don't think he would have been a first round pick if he played for another school. Also, I don't think he starts ahead of either guy at Auburn.

Vers, just curious. When you say "either guy at Auburn", I know you're talking about Derrick Brown, who is the other guy? I think you mean Marlon Davidson, #3. Is that who you are referring to?

This is how I viewed the 2020 IDL prospects:

Brown, Auburn
Kinlaw, South Carolina
Davidson, Blacklock-TCU, Madubuike-Tx AM, Elliot-Mizzou.
Hamilton, OSU
Gallimore, OK
Others...

Four guys on the same tier. Elliot is easily within the top 10 among IDL.

No doubt there are players who wouldn't have beat out. OK...if you think it a huge stretch, OK, he starts for 99% of the teams in the country.

I will use the argument you made about Higgins and how the attention to the other receivers elevated his game. At Mizzou, Elliott was the guy the O leaned on. Had he been playing next to a Derrick Brown, his game would have elevated the same, thus I feel he could have slipped in to the late 20's.

Yes, I was talking about Davidson. However, that isn't a big deal if someone disagrees w/that take. I just don't think Elliot would have been a first round pick if he played at one of the schools peen mentioned.

It's not a big deal and I don't want to argue about. Just voicing my opinion.

I hate post-draft talk. Guys get overrated every year. A couple of years ago, I was disagreeing w/guys that Caleb Brantley was worthy of a first or second round pick if he hadn't had that "issue."

That is pretty much how I had them ranked, with Gallimore ahead of Hamilton.

Madubuike I had rated a little lower then.that second tier, because he is somewhat of a tweener, but should be a good fit @DE for the Ravens 34.

Did you pull this out of thin air?

Elliot has never been a tweener. In fact he lost some 30 lbs and played about 15 lbs heavier then what he weighed in at the Combine.

I don't think it was a need pick. I think he was the highest rated player on our board.