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He's terrible, Mackey Award winner....stinks.....GO Browns!!!


I think most that complain and whine probably have no idea who the guy even is. They read a write up and find the cons and roll with them. This happens every year with every pick we take. Heck I remember people complaining that Garret was a bum his first year. Madden makes everyone think they know how to evaluate talent, it makes me laugh.


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Originally Posted By: dawg66
He's a good drive blocker but he needs to work on his pass blocking.


OK, but why in the heck are we going to use him as a pass blocker?

What kind of grades do QB's have at pass blocking?

What grade does Jarvis have as a pass blocker?


If you want a pass blocker in there, put a pass blocker in there! Scheesh!


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Anyone who could "handle tOSU can't be too bad at blocking. And "sacrifices body out in space or coming across the formation." Never heard of him before today, but I'm mighty interested now.

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He's a good drive blocker but he needs to work on his pass blocking.


OK, but why in the heck are we going to use him as a pass blocker?

What kind of grades do QB's have at pass blocking?

What grade does Jarvis have as a pass blocker?


If you want a pass blocker in there, put a pass blocker in there! Scheesh!


Well occasionally TEs are asked to stay in and pass block, like in max protect situations.


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Originally Posted By: dawg66
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He's a good drive blocker but he needs to work on his pass blocking.


OK, but why in the heck are we going to use him as a pass blocker?

What kind of grades do QB's have at pass blocking?

What grade does Jarvis have as a pass blocker?


If you want a pass blocker in there, put a pass blocker in there! Scheesh!


Well occasionally TEs are asked to stay in and pass block, like in max protect situations.


Absolutely, so I agree that there is room for improvent in that area of his game and perhaps add some good weight too.

But I like that he can help us in the early downs in the run game (RPO) in the 12 Personnel.

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I lke it. Light a fire under Njoku's #$%

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Originally Posted By: dawg66
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He's a good drive blocker but he needs to work on his pass blocking.


OK, but why in the heck are we going to use him as a pass blocker?

What kind of grades do QB's have at pass blocking?

What grade does Jarvis have as a pass blocker?


If you want a pass blocker in there, put a pass blocker in there! Scheesh!


Well occasionally TEs are asked to stay in and pass block, like in max protect situations.



OK, no argument.

Since it is an occasional deal, who really cares?

I can see him needing to be a fairly good run blocker. If we are passing the ball, he needs to be out on some route.

I can see using him for a chip block to keep the DE from being able to go wide and direct him in to your tackle.

Then get out there and catch the darn ball.


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There’s a nice breakdown of the importance of drafting Bryant .. nice insight IMO


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: dawg66
He's a good drive blocker but he needs to work on his pass blocking.



We just invested in two OTs so that we have less of a need for a pass blocking TE...I think he can handle the chip block as he then runs his route!

I love the size of his hands - good run blocker and will be a nice addition to our run game.

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Any chance this dude becomes our FB/H-back .... our version of Jurko in SF?




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Any chance this dude becomes our FB/H-back .... our version of Jurko in SF?


No.

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Doubtful - he's 6'5". Don't see him as a FB, that is for sure.

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Doubtful - he's 6'5". Don't see him as a FB, that is for sure.
I’m surprised he’s 6’5 ... on film he looks like 6’2 or so


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Doubtful - he's 6'5". Don't see him as a FB, that is for sure.
I’m surprised he’s 6’5 ... on film he looks like 6’2 or so


Make sure you're checking out the right guy. Some people confused our guy, Harrison Bryant, with UDFA Hunter Bryant. (who is only 6'2")


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Doubtful - he's 6'5". Don't see him as a FB, that is for sure.
I’m surprised he’s 6’5 ... on film he looks like 6’2 or so


Make sure you're checking out the right guy. Some people confused our guy, Harrison Bryant, with UDFA Hunter Bryant. (who is only 6'2")
hmm okay maybe thats the case thanks


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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j/c,
Harrison Bryant is a TE in the truest sense of the word/position.


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Put him in the slot or on a wing. Some interesting stuff there. TE screen!


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Originally Posted By: eotab
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He's a good drive blocker but he needs to work on his pass blocking.



We just invested in two OTs so that we have less of a need for a pass blocking TE...I think he can handle the chip block as he then runs his route!

I love the size of his hands - good run blocker and will be a nice addition to our run game.

jmho



Just for the record I had been looking at the wrong BRYANT...as there was another one that was 6'2"

But this kid Harrison was a Left Tackle prior to switching to TE. So he has the knowledge of blocking more than most TE's coming into the NFL as usually its guys coming in as TEs that make the switch to LT not the other way around.

What I'm saying is this kid understands the angles related to blocking and especially regarding the corner. I'm sure he will add some muscle over the next couple of years he has the frame to do so.

But he has the understanding which is more important. He can be your slot TE as well as the Y TE more so than Njoku.

We have a good competition between Harrison, Pharaoh Brown and Carlson I think two will stay as we will be carrying 4 TEs for the season.

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He’s certainly that team’s “queen” piece on the chess board ... I’ve seen him move all over the place from RB, FB, slot, and out wide


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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This could turn out to be one hell of a pick depending on how they plan to use dude ...

LETS GOOOOOOooooooooooo thumbsup


And depending on how motivated he is, how hard he works, and if the team sticks it out, not giving up on him too soon,
could be Mark Campbell, or could be Randall Telfer.

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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Rookie TE Harrison Bryant brings versatility needed to fit into Browns’ crowded offense -- Film review - cleveland.com
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Actually on that last run play on goal to go. I thought he made a great block sealing the edge. I don't know what this guy was talking about him getting moved back...He took the inside move and seal it as well as knocking the defender towards the middle utilizing the Defenders momentum and the RB had an EASY score. Not sure what this guy was talking about. Of course it will be nice and more than probable that HB will put on some muscle...almost all TEs do especially one who is 6'5" and built where he can add muscle as his body MATURES into a MAN!

Do I expect much from him as a rookie...nah I expect him to learn and next off season I expect a big time conditioning program to have him gain weight without slowing him down and in some cases like Seth Devalve that is exactly what happened and Bryant has a body to do it even better. I expect him to be around 260 by his 3rd season with us.

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I agree, he won't see a whole lot of time. He is here to learn and take over when we dump Njoku next year.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
I agree, he won't see a whole lot of time. He is here to learn and take over when we dump Njoku next year.


Well we picked up his fifth-year option so it might have to be the year after that. Plus , Berry indicated Njoku is in the team's long term plans. That really doesn't mean much at this point as things can change, but "dumping him" doesn't see to be in the plans just yet.


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The 5th year option is likely as much a showing of faith as it is a hedging our bets. He just has to get serious about his hands and his blocking.... the rest of his game is solid.

If he makes the strides needed and becomes the professional that works to eliminate the holes in his game, we keep him. If he doesn't and blows off working on his blocking because he just wants to catch the ball, then we don't keep him.... probably find a trading partner that wants him and on a cheap 5th year rookie contract, we can get someone to pony up at least a 3rd, maybe a 2nd.


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The 5th year option is likely as much a showing of faith as it is a hedging our bets.


No doubt.

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If he makes the strides needed and becomes the professional that works to eliminate the holes in his game, we keep him. If he doesn't and blows off working on his blocking because he just wants to catch the ball, then we don't keep him....


I don't disagree with this. Essentially, he is in their long-term plans/hopes until he isn't.


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J/C. I think we must remember when we selected Njoku he was the youngest player in the draft. He is still just 23 and will be in his 3rd offense. I believe he will be given ample opportunity to contribute. Our unstable organization is not his fault, I think he will be a good player in this league whether it is with us or someone else.

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No, our organization is not his fault, but he owns working on the things he CAN control.


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I agree, I think last year his injury was frustrating to him, and when the wheels fell off with Freddy it clearly made him look bad. As I said I think he will have an opportunity, and if he isn't part of our new style on offense we could probably move him for something. I believe he has a skill set to be very good in the League. He is still a very young player.

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Potential and production are very different things- how many YEARS do you support potential...in a different occupation how many years do you wait on an employee to reach their top- couple months MAYBE....if David isn't good/very good...admit he's another first round bust and move on....GO Browns!!!!


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
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I agree, he won't see a whole lot of time. He is here to learn and take over when we dump Njoku next year.


Well we picked up his fifth-year option so it might have to be the year after that. Plus , Berry indicated Njoku is in the team's long term plans. That really doesn't mean much at this point as things can change, but "dumping him" doesn't see to be in the plans just yet.


It all depends how he progresses (Njoku) If he comes back to form and provides a good high target for Baker in the Red Zone and he matures in his production as he still is a young player. If that happens (the positives) we have long term plans for him. If it doesn't we won't spend much money on him.

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Agree, this new system will play well for our TE's. The FB will definitley help the TE's as far as Chipping and helping to block. Cant really think of anyone but Chubb who really progressed under last years system. I believe our young talents will have a better chance this year.

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Studying Harrison Bryant's Florida Atlantic tape to get a feel for how he won at the college level from a variety of alignments with an expanded route tree. Also looking at his blocking in both phases and his areas to clean up in the NFL.

For more deep-dive analysis, join us at TheOBR where Bryant's Film Room recently posted tracking the All-22 over his Mackey Award winning season and has an abundance of clips providing more insights on his current level of ability.

READ BRYANT'S FILM ROOM: https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-b...


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Studying Harrison Bryant's Florida Atlantic tape to get a feel for how he won at the college level from a variety of alignments with an expanded route tree. Also looking at his blocking in both phases and his areas to clean up in the NFL.

For more deep-dive analysis, join us at TheOBR where Bryant's Film Room recently posted tracking the All-22 over his Mackey Award winning season and has an abundance of clips providing more insights on his current level of ability.

READ BRYANT'S FILM ROOM: https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-b...


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