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I think it was pretty apparent last year that Baker is much better with the best OL possible (imagine that lol) and multiple TEs. However/whatever our FO has to do to make the OL the best is ideal
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Gosh, I thought Hyde was washed up here lol
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I think Hyde is much better than people on here give him credit him for. He seems to perform wherever he goes. He does switch teams a lot. It seems some players just get into this scenario where that is there NFL lot in life, a long career on many different teams.
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Hyde had a solid season last year with the Texans.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Didn't he have over a 1,000 yards or am I mistaken?
All I know is that he is not nearly as bad as some folks claim.
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2019 Carlos Hyde 245 Att. 1,070 Yds. 4.4 YPC 6 TD's
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Thanks. Sounds like a solid season to me.
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Thanks. Sounds like a solid season to me. No doubt he was way more effective last year as the two previous ones. IIRC he was asked to drop weight after he left here (and KC?) and it benefited him. If you go back and watch games from 2018 when he was here, he looked way slower than last season. Could be the weight or injury
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Thanks. Sounds like a solid season to me. No doubt he was way more effective last year as the two previous ones. IIRC he was asked to drop weight after he left here (and KC?) and it benefited him. If you go back and watch games from 2018 when he was here, he looked way slower than last season. Could be the weight or injury Carlos Hyde 2018 Cleveland Browns 172 ATT. 571 Yards 3.3 YPC 5 TD's
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Thanks. Sounds like a solid season to me. No doubt he was way more effective last year as the two previous ones. IIRC he was asked to drop weight after he left here (and KC?) and it benefited him. If you go back and watch games from 2018 when he was here, he looked way slower than last season. Could be the weight or injury Carlos Hyde 2018 Cleveland Browns 172 ATT. 571 Yards 3.3 YPC 5 TD's so a way worse average and half the yards on only 70 less carries
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Personally, I would rather sign Warford than Peters, but should we sign Peters, would Wills be on the bench or would he start at RG?
Curious, Is it an easier transition from RT to LT or from RT to RG?
It RT to RG is easier, that could explain the Peters possibility. Giving Wills an easier transition expecting there to be too little off season OTA's/training camp for him to make the more difficult transition. That was my first thought .... Peters to LT and the rook to RG for a year or two ... Pit might have a stroke about transitioning from RG to LT but I’m willing to risk it ... *L* ... Sean O Hagen, of strongman, is 31 ish,(1990), I think someone should bring him to America and tell him to play football, This tatooed, jovial, Irishman, looks a lot like Joe Thomas (in the face), in interviews and is a lean 440 at 6'11, with relatively good knees and noticeable stamina. One year flyer, could find somewhere for him. Jason peters is a beast if his knee is healthy.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Why do I feel like we are going to be facing Flacco when we play the Jets?
Also..
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Sign Clowney and Keep Vernon 
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Why do I feel like we are going to be facing Flacco when we play the Jets?
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Here's the full segment - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVX9KsC_qwI
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Sign Clowney and Keep Vernon Or, if they sign Clowney, cut Vernon (opening up $15M), extend Myles and allocate much of that guaranteed money in 2020. Hell, even make some other extensions.
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Now that's what we call efficiency. I like Hyde, and giggles aside, how might he perform with this line?
Just to ponder while we wait for pigskin to break out, I think that Cam Newton is just as available as JFF. Coincidence? Anybody want to take a flyer? Not me, just asking. The irony is overwhelming sometimes.
Great Memorial Day, dawgs! Be safe. Hope the barbecue is pure bliss.
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I liked Hyde. He was a pro, acted as such, and brought it every carry. As I like to say about guys like him... there's room on just about any roster for a guy like that.
Even here, I don't think he was all that bad. He just happened to be the guy that was getting carries instead of Chubb. He was a little on the slow side, but he ran hard and always fell forward.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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One memory I’ll have of Hyde is when he returned from the hospital and scored 2 TDS vs the Jets ... that was cool
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Remember when Chubb carries the ball three times for 105 yards against the Raiders and Hyde got 22 carries and we lost.
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Remember when Chubb carries the ball three times for 105 yards against the Raiders and Hyde got 22 carries and we lost. Chubb needs to learn to block better before he gets a larger role! Hue followed that Raider game up with three carries for Chubb the next week and only three carries again the week after that. Finally, Dorsey stepped in and Billy Beane'd Hue.
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Remember when Chubb carries the ball three times for 105 yards against the Raiders and Hyde got 22 carries and we lost. and Hyde was painful to watch if you go back and look
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Remember when Chubb carries the ball three times for 105 yards against the Raiders and Hyde got 22 carries and we lost. Chubb needs to learn to block better before he gets a larger role! Hue followed that Raider game up with three carries for Chubb the next week and only three carries again the week after that. Finally, Dorsey stepped in and Billy Beane'd Hue. Hue wasn't calling plays that season. Haley was.
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Remember when Chubb carries the ball three times for 105 yards against the Raiders and Hyde got 22 carries and we lost. Chubb needs to learn to block better before he gets a larger role! Hue followed that Raider game up with three carries for Chubb the next week and only three carries again the week after that. Finally, Dorsey stepped in and Billy Beane'd Hue. Hue wasn't calling plays that season. Haley was. Dorsey Billy Bean'd Haley!
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Remember when Chubb carries the ball three times for 105 yards against the Raiders and Hyde got 22 carries and we lost. Chubb needs to learn to block better before he gets a larger role! Hue followed that Raider game up with three carries for Chubb the next week and only three carries again the week after that. Finally, Dorsey stepped in and Billy Beane'd Hue. Hue wasn't calling plays that season. Haley was. Dorsey Billy Bean'd Haley! The weird part was that Dorsey also signed Hyde.
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Because he obviously wanted Hyde to some extent and then quickly moved on from him when Chubb wasn’t being used.
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I was always under the assumption that they didn’t think Chubb would be as ready as he was. IIRC Chubb was even poor in the preseason games ... so I think they thought it was prudent to have Hyde be the place holder .. obviously that wasn’t really needed
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Because he obviously wanted Hyde to some extent and then quickly moved on from him when Chubb wasn’t being used. I think it became more of a thing of the GM vs the coaches. This made sure Dorsey got what he wanted. And it worked out. Hue and company were fired shortly thereafter. That also worked out but it should have happened the season prior.
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Yeah, I always thought Dorsey was forcing Hue's hand. If you aren't going to play the better guy, I'll make it so you have no choice.
I can only imagine Chubb was showing things in practice in addition to the games that supported this. And possibly Hue was trying to be loyal to a veteran.
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Remember when Chubb carries the ball three times for 105 yards against the Raiders and Hyde got 22 carries and we lost. I was at that game and couldn't believe that Hue didn't put Chubb in more. Hyde reminds me of that saying by Madden, though I forget which running back he was referring to. But it's something like 'Hyde will get you 3 yards when you need 2, and will get you 3 yards when you need 4.'
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I think it was our own Leroy Hoard.
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I think it was our own Leroy Hoard.
"If you need 1 yard, he'll get you 3. If you need 5 yards, he'll get you 3." 
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Loved Leroy Hoard. was excited when we drafted him.
Hyde was a good player...
Chubb is much better...
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Clowney:
Talk about mixed feelings. You watch his highlight tape and you see what talent he has; and you see what he can do.
Then you watch more tape and you see what he actually does and you wonder. Why doesn't this guy bring it more?
It makes me wonder what would he do opposite Garrett? Myles is a hard worker. A physical phenom. If Clowney was in the building. If he worked out with Myles and practiced with him on the field would that motivate him more? Would he take Myles's presence as a direct challenge? Would he not want to be showed up?
They have the same agent. Both were the first picks in the draft. There would have to be some level of competition to show who is the man.
It is enticing to think about them rushing the passer.
Honestly I just don't know. I would have to have great intel on who is Clowney? What makes him tick and what is realistic to expect from him now?
FA has not gone the way he imagined. He is not going to get what he was expecting. The reason is. The production is not there.
Maybe this is the time to get him?
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