way to lead the country during tough times, Trump.
cant even address the public. talks tough on twitter, then goes and hides in the bunker, and now is berating governors over protest and riots while he himself has completely failed to provide any sort of leadership.
conservatives elected a reality tv host as president, and we are now getting reality tv style leadership, which is basically none.
you know what Trump? dont even bother addressing the nation. We'll let Biden do it after november.
What do you think would happen if Trump did decide to address the nation on this topic? Does anyone think that would help settle things down? OR is is much more likely to inflame the situation?
He'd have to stick to the teleprompter. If he begins rambling on his own, he'll fan the flames
Trump berates governors on a phone call saying use zero tolerance and be aggressive whereas Biden held a conference call to talk with mayors in affected cities in how to solve the issue.
Better hope these cops don’t get found “not guilty”.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
way to lead the country during tough times, Trump.
cant even address the public. talks tough on twitter, then goes and hides in the bunker, and now is berating governors over protest and riots while he himself has completely failed to provide any sort of leadership.
conservatives elected a reality tv host as president, and we are now getting reality tv style leadership, which is basically none.
you know what Trump? dont even bother addressing the nation. We'll let Biden do it after november.
What do you think would happen if Trump did decide to address the nation on this topic? Does anyone think that would help settle things down? OR is is much more likely to inflame the situation?
that depends largely on what he said.... but the notion that it would probably just rile things up even further is based on his past willingness to rile things up rather than try to be a calming presence... he's living in a hole that he created when it comes to credibility with stuff like this.
"When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God." Leviticus 19:33-34
A complete joke. Did absolutely nothing to bring calm, only make it worse.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Watched it. Staged it in the Rose Garden to further raise tensions. Had police and military police tear gas the peaceful protesters so he could demonstrate how "tough" he was after his leaked phone call with the Governors.
Speech ends just before curfew so the police can get their licks in on the protesters.
Now invoking a law from 1807 to have the military and police force "dominate the streets."
He did nothing but further divide the nation and fan the flames.
The protests are going to get worse and they're going to become protests against Trump and less about George Floyd.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Threats of dominance in the streets and 10 year jail sentences during the call to governors... He might as well said get them back in the fields and hang the ones that resist IMHO. POTUS.
Again bro, this is what it looks like before the pitchforks come out. I think bunker boy knows that.
Again, I think they EASILY get a conviction on that cop that kneeled on Floyd, but the jury is an X-Factor, sometimes they don't do what you think they should do.
Threats of dominance in the streets and 10 year jail sentences during the call to governors... He might as well said get them back in the fields and hang the ones that resist IMHO. POTUS.
Again bro, this is what it looks like before the pitchforks come out. I think bunker boy knows that.
Dude the amount of damage caused by many of these people are felony level, your literally talking 10+ years in prison.
I guarantee you would be singing a different tune if they were burning down your business or your home..how would you feel about it?
Maybe President Obama will find a way to speak to the country And be able to bring peace to these protest or even an end to the protest for now.
How to Make this Moment the Turning Point for Real Change
Barack Obama Jun 1
As millions of people across the country take to the streets and raise their voices in response to the killing of George Floyd and the ongoing problem of unequal justice, many people have reached out asking how we can sustain momentum to bring about real change.
Ultimately, it’s going to be up to a new generation of activists to shape strategies that best fit the times. But I believe there are some basic lessons to draw from past efforts that are worth remembering.
First, the waves of protests across the country represent a genuine and legitimate frustration over a decades-long failure to reform police practices and the broader criminal justice system in the United States. The overwhelming majority of participants have been peaceful, courageous, responsible, and inspiring. They deserve our respect and support, not condemnation — something that police in cities like Camden and Flint have commendably understood.
On the other hand, the small minority of folks who’ve resorted to violence in various forms, whether out of genuine anger or mere opportunism, are putting innocent people at risk, compounding the destruction of neighborhoods that are often already short on services and investment and detracting from the larger cause. I saw an elderly black woman being interviewed today in tears because the only grocery store in her neighborhood had been trashed. If history is any guide, that store may take years to come back. So let’s not excuse violence, or rationalize it, or participate in it. If we want our criminal justice system, and American society at large, to operate on a higher ethical code, then we have to model that code ourselves.
Second, I’ve heard some suggest that the recurrent problem of racial bias in our criminal justice system proves that only protests and direct action can bring about change, and that voting and participation in electoral politics is a waste of time. I couldn’t disagree more. The point of protest is to raise public awareness, to put a spotlight on injustice, and to make the powers that be uncomfortable; in fact, throughout American history, it’s often only been in response to protests and civil disobedience that the political system has even paid attention to marginalized communities. But eventually, aspirations have to be translated into specific laws and institutional practices — and in a democracy, that only happens when we elect government officials who are responsive to our demands.
Moreover, it’s important for us to understand which levels of government have the biggest impact on our criminal justice system and police practices. When we think about politics, a lot of us focus only on the presidency and the federal government. And yes, we should be fighting to make sure that we have a president, a Congress, a U.S. Justice Department, and a federal judiciary that actually recognize the ongoing, corrosive role that racism plays in our society and want to do something about it. But the elected officials who matter most in reforming police departments and the criminal justice system work at the state and local levels.
It’s mayors and county executives that appoint most police chiefs and negotiate collective bargaining agreements with police unions. It’s district attorneys and state’s attorneys that decide whether or not to investigate and ultimately charge those involved in police misconduct. Those are all elected positions. In some places, police review boards with the power to monitor police conduct are elected as well. Unfortunately, voter turnout in these local races is usually pitifully low, especially among young people — which makes no sense given the direct impact these offices have on social justice issues, not to mention the fact that who wins and who loses those seats is often determined by just a few thousand, or even a few hundred, votes.
So the bottom line is this: if we want to bring about real change, then the choice isn’t between protest and politics. We have to do both. We have to mobilize to raise awareness, and we have to organize and cast our ballots to make sure that we elect candidates who will act on reform.
Finally, the more specific we can make demands for criminal justice and police reform, the harder it will be for elected officials to just offer lip service to the cause and then fall back into business as usual once protests have gone away. The content of that reform agenda will be different for various communities. A big city may need one set of reforms; a rural community may need another. Some agencies will require wholesale rehabilitation; others should make minor improvements. Every law enforcement agency should have clear policies, including an independent body that conducts investigations of alleged misconduct. Tailoring reforms for each community will require local activists and organizations to do their research and educate fellow citizens in their community on what strategies work best.
But as a starting point, here’s a report and toolkit developed by the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights and based on the work of the Task Force on 21st Century Policing that I formed when I was in the White House. And if you’re interested in taking concrete action, we’ve also created a dedicated site at the Obama Foundation to aggregate and direct you to useful resources and organizations who’ve been fighting the good fight at the local and national levels for years.
I recognize that these past few months have been hard and dispiriting — that the fear, sorrow, uncertainty, and hardship of a pandemic have been compounded by tragic reminders that prejudice and inequality still shape so much of American life. But watching the heightened activism of young people in recent weeks, of every race and every station, makes me hopeful. If, going forward, we can channel our justifiable anger into peaceful, sustained, and effective action, then this moment can be a real turning point in our nation’s long journey to live up to our highest ideals.
Here is the result of what these looters have done:
That video was from the 1992 LA Riots. His neighbors, his community destroyed everything he has.
You listen to him, "what yall doing is wrong" This video brings a tear to my eye...these protests PROVE this nation has not learned a damn thing! This nation is doing exactly what we did in 1992!
Do you have any idea how many minority business owners have lost everything now because they were mad at the police they destroyed everything they had? they were just finally starting to climb to the rank of middle class, with the economy and stock market doing so well under Trump, they are just finally starting to change their standard of living and a bunch of selfish, thug, loser protesters, rioters, and looters took it away from them by destroying everything they had...they will never recover from this.
You watch this video and feel the pain this guy is feeling...this is the nonsense your justify by these protests...I wouldn't wish this on someone I hated, let alone my neighbor....this nation has some serious soul searching to do.
Yes, racism is an issue, but how in god's name is destoying everything and destroying your neighbors life going to solve it?
Here is the result of what these looters have done:
That video was from the 1992 LA Riots. His neighbors, his community destroyed everything he has.
You listen to him, "what yall doing is wrong" This video brings a tear to my eye...these protests PROVE this nation has not learned a damn thing! This nation is doing exactly what we did in 1992!
Do you have any idea how many minority business owners have lost everything now because they were mad at the police they destroyed everything they had? they were just finally starting to climb to the rank of middle class, with the economy and stock market doing so well under Trump, they are just finally starting to change their standard of living and a bunch of selfish, thug, loser protesters, rioters, and looters took it away from them by destroying everything they had...they will never recover from this.
You watch this video and feel the pain this guy is feeling...this is the nonsense your justify by these protests...I wouldn't wish this on someone I hated, let alone my neighbor....this nation has some serious soul searching to do.
Yes, racism is an issue, but how in god's name is destoying everything and destroying your neighbors life going to solve it?
Still focusing on the SYMPTOM ... not the cause. Still looking for a way to paint the issue at the feet of the black community rather than look at the inherent racism in American culture. Yeah - I get it. So much easier, and based on your posts, I mean this is an opportunity too good to miss right?
Just like your initial post claiming White people died at a higher rate than Blacks at the hands of the police, I find your post disingenuous and a little nauseating.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
Bishop says she found out Trump visited historic DC church by watching it on TV
The Right Rev. Mariann Budde, bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington, D.C., said on Monday that she only learned of President Trump's visit to the historic St. John's Episcopal Church by watching it on the news.
Trump visited the church, which was damaged in a fire during protests against police brutality over the weekend, after making remarks at the White House condemning the demonstrations in the wake of George Floyd's death and threatening military action. Local law enforcement had forced protesters out of the area using tear gas and flash bangs shortly before Trump walked to the church, which is just across the street from the White House.
“I don’t want President Trump speaking for St. John’s,” Budde told The Washington Post after Trump's visit. "I am outraged."
“I am the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington and was not given even a courtesy call that they would be clearing with tear gas so they could use one of our churches as a prop, holding a Bible, one that declares that God is love and when everything he has said and done is to enflame violence."
Outside the church, Trump posed for a photo and vowed to keep the building "safe." He also told reporters: "greatest country in the world."
Budde said the church does not associate itself with Trump's messages or his response to the killing of Floyd, an unarmed black man who died after being held in police custody by an officer who pressed a knee into Floyd's neck. The violent death, which was captured on video, has sparked nationwide protests and demands for reform.
"We hold the teachings of our sacred texts to be so so grounding to our lives and everything we do and it is about love of neighbor and sacrificial love and justice," she told the Post.
According to the Post, the church has had several clergy members at the church and at Lafayette Square to support protesters but left once the 7 p.m. D.C. curfew was reached.
Trump has responded furiously to the protests, tweeting that "when the looting starts the shooting starts," and deploying the National Guard to cities across the country. On Monday, Trump said he would mobilize “all available resources, civilian and military” in order to crack down on protests.
St. John's was one of many historic D.C. buildings vandalized over the weekend. Businesses around the White House had windows shattered, and spray paint was left on monuments along the National Mall.
Trump has accused anarchists, looters, antifa and other “radical left-wing groups” of causing the destruction.
Here is the result of what these looters have done:
That video was from the 1992 LA Riots. His neighbors, his community destroyed everything he has.
You listen to him, "what yall doing is wrong" This video brings a tear to my eye...these protests PROVE this nation has not learned a damn thing! This nation is doing exactly what we did in 1992!
Do you have any idea how many minority business owners have lost everything now because they were mad at the police they destroyed everything they had? they were just finally starting to climb to the rank of middle class, with the economy and stock market doing so well under Trump, they are just finally starting to change their standard of living and a bunch of selfish, thug, loser protesters, rioters, and looters took it away from them by destroying everything they had...they will never recover from this.
You watch this video and feel the pain this guy is feeling...this is the nonsense your justify by these protests...I wouldn't wish this on someone I hated, let alone my neighbor....this nation has some serious soul searching to do.
Yes, racism is an issue, but how in god's name is destoying everything and destroying your neighbors life going to solve it?
Still focusing on the SYMPTOM ... not the cause. Still looking for a way to paint the issue at the feet of the black community rather than look at the inherent racism in American culture. Yeah - I get it. So much easier, and based on your posts, I mean this is an opportunity too good to miss right?
Just like your initial post claiming White people died at a higher rate than Blacks at the hands of the police, I find your post disingenuous and a little nauseating.
So your pretty much saying because of your or these peoples perception of racism this is justified?
Racism is evil, but so is the destruction they are causing. You can NOT fight evil by doing evil!
These people have destroyed the lives of many minority business owners, set them back generations, for what? Because they are mad at the cops? Because of racism.
Why destroy their stuff, these are innocent people, they had nothing to.do with this.
I'm not painting anything at the feet of the black community. If you think I'm a racist you don't know a mudhole from a lake. They are hurting themselves, they are going to have to live in these communities they destroyed. How does that help anything?
There is simply no justification for destroying innocent peoples property and lives. Racism or not, this is wrong. The war against racism can only be won through ideals, education, teaching, and helping each other.
This will set us back greatly as a nation. Many neighborhoods will.hate each other for what was done these past few days..you may think it was worth it, but it won't be...just don't realize what they have done....
4 St. Louis police officers shot at George Floyd protests, still taking fire
By Edmund DeMarche, David Aaro | Fox News
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Authorities in St. Louis said early Tuesday that four police officers were shot during protests in the city’s downtown area and officers continue to be under fire.
St. Louis Police Chief John Hayden told reporters that two officers were shot in the leg and one was shot in the foot. The other was shot in the arm. Hayden said they were hit by gunfire while standing on the side of a police line amid protests in the city.
"As we speak we're trying to get control out of this city, still hearing gunfire and everything. I don't know what else to say. This is horrible," he said. "Thank God, they're alive."
Hayden added that he believes "some coward randomly shot at the police line."
Besides the shooting in St. Louis, there were reports of police being shot in Richmond Va. and Las Vegas. Their conditions were not immediately clear.
Trump has the cops clear out protesters just so he can do a photo op at a church.
Trumps America. Screw trump!!
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
As predicted: trump made a divisive speech, and things got WORSE
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
"" these protests PROVE this nation has not learned a damn thing! ""
No, I didn't claim the destruction was justified. That was you putting things into my post that weren't there.
What I said - focus on the ROOT CAUSE. Which you blatantly fail to do. The root cause of the violence and looting is racism that is ingrained deeper into America than you and most want to admit.
You talk about the symptom. You talk about the protesters not learning anything, when you should be saying that the American Culture/Society has not learned to address and talk about racism. Hey ... but I know you and others are more than capable of taking that and spinning into a comment about me hating my country or something. Standard operating procedure.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
I feel for those officers. Horrible. Sounds like a right wing nutjob shooting to me.
Sorry. That is a fail! Everyone knows the truth of this.
Why because Trump started saying ANTIFA? lmao. Prove it. And then when you can't, shut up.
Thanks to lima in the EE thread:
White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter Other misinformation and misleading claims spread across Twitter on Sunday night and into Monday related to the protests.
June 1, 2020, 7:03 PM EDT / Updated June 1, 2020, 8:57 PM EDT By Ben Collins, Brandy Zadrozny and Emmanuelle Saliba A Twitter account claiming to belong to a national “antifa” organization and pushing violent rhetoric related to ongoing protests has been linked to the white nationalist group Identity Evropa, according to a Twitter spokesperson.
The spokesperson said the account violated the company's platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts. Twitter suspended the account after a tweet that incited violence.
As protests were taking place in multiple states across the U.S. Sunday night, the newly created account, @ANTIFA_US, tweeted, “Tonight’s the night, Comrades,” with a brown raised fist emoji and “Tonight we say 'F--- The City' and we move into the residential areas... the white hoods.... and we take what's ours …”
This isn’t the first time Twitter has taken action against fake accounts engaged in hateful conduct linked to Identity Evropa, according to the spokesperson.
The antifa movement — a network of loosely organized radical groups who use direct action to fight the far-right and fascism — has been targeted by President Donald Trump as the force behind some of the violence and property destruction seen at some protests, though little evidence has been provided for such claims.
Other misinformation and misleading claims spread across Twitter on Sunday night and into Monday related to the protests.
Two hashtags that trended worldwide on Twitter falsely claimed that there was a "cover-up" or a "blackout" of protests in Washington, D.C., overnight. Both appeared to insinuate that protesters have been silenced in some way, perhaps by a secret internet blackout.
Twitter says it has removed the trend from its "trending topics" section because of "coordinated attempts to disrupt the public conversation" around the protests.
Twitter said it suspended several hundred accounts and is investigating the viral spread of the hashtag, which it said was boosted by "hundreds of spammy accounts."
"We're taking action proactively on any coordinated attempts to disrupt the public conversation around this issue," a Twitter spokesperson said.
The spokesperson said the company sometimes pulls down hashtags that violate the company's rules, like platform manipulation.
"We want trends to promote healthy discussions on Twitter. This means that at times, we may prevent certain content from trending. These include trends that violate the Twitter Rules," the Twitter spokesperson said.
NetBlocks, a nonprofit group monitoring worldwide internet access, found no indication of a mass-scale internet disruption in the Washington area overnight or in the last 48 hours.
Journalists covering the protests also took to Twitter to disprove the hoax.
"A lot of people are asking me about a possible #dcblackout. I've been out near the White House since 4 am and haven't experienced any outage," tweeted Victoria Sanchez, a reporter for WJLA, the local ABC affiliate, adding that her colleagues had posted multiple updates throughout the night.
Many accounts tweeting the message had few to no followers. The same messages were also posted on Reddit and 4chan late Sunday. The posts pushing the #DCBlackout hashtag peaked in popularity around 12:30 a.m. ET Monday.
A second narrative boosted by bots and hacked accounts claimed that #DCBlackout is a misinformation campaign. The same message was tweeted verbatim by multiple accounts.
"Yeah...... as someone seeing #dcblackout trending, who lives and works in the DC metro area, and who has friends telecommuting into DC rn..... This hashtag looks like misinformation," read the tweet, which was posted hundreds of times.
Some accounts had few to no followers, while other tweets were posted by users who claim to have been hacked.
One verified Twitter user, Jason Elia, said his account was hacked to tweet the message. Elia lives in Oklahoma City and said he wouldn't go to Washington "unless they build an In-N-Out there." He said he has since changed his password.
I The goal of the hashtag seems to be to sow confusion and fear during a chaotic time and to push the #DCBlackout hashtag to the front page of Twitter, where all users would at least glance at the disinformation.
Josh Russell, an independent bot researcher who identifies foreign and domestic hacking and trolling operations, said events like the weekend's protests are ripe for this kind of platform manipulation.
"Any large 'online' event is going to have these types of things happen. Every bad actor that sees the opportunity to create some panic is going to leverage the situation to do so. It's nothing new," Russell said.
Off Twitter, viral text messages of screenshots of doctored tweets have circulated throughout the country. Some of the false text messages claim that extremist groups are plotting to move into residential areas this week.
Bot researchers call this kind of disinformation distribution "hidden viral" text messages, which go undetected on mainstream platforms like Facebook and Twitter and can spread like wildfire without moderation.
Similar "hidden viral" text messages went viral at the beginning of the coronavirus outbreak in the U.S., with messages claiming that the institution of martial law was imminent, vaguely citing friends or co-workers.
American officials later claimed that the texts were boosted by Chinese disinformation agents to spread panic.
Russell said hostile foreign governments frequently "look at opportunities to make it seem as though there is an infrastructure failure" during times of crisis.
"This is a common thing for foreign disinformation agents," Russell said. "They would be trying to get people to believe that things are much worse on the ground than they are."
This guy, with the bow and arrow, was pretty much harmless to others but might have "wounded himself".
The guy is either "drunk", extremely "uneducated" .. or most likely BOTH DRUNK AND UNEDUCATED!
...the dude is holding the bow, "UPSIDE DOWN"...
The grip that is supposed to be used to hold the bow is above his hand and the bow's sight, used for aiming purposes, is supposed to be located where the bow's handle (grip) is located.
IMO, the dude had no idea how to shoot a bow but still could have gotten himself severely injured by just "threatening" to shoot someone with a bow.
JMHO- Protest to make changes- stop racism- what a crock. Folks, this is the WORLD- NO ONE can stop racism or prejudice in EVERYONE. Only God can do that. By holding hands, singing, protesting, that's going to stop a racist cop from kneeing on man's neck.....nope. Look at all the law abiding citizens who use this excuse to burn, loot, kill innocent people- cops, bystanders, folks out supporting the cause. We even had a black clergyman state he talked folks out of burning a business because blacks worked there....NOT because burning any business is wrong, but because blacks worked there. We've got nut white supremacist groups doing their thing....and while condemning them PLEASE check your history books- Black Panthers, hate whites, give us our separate states,etc., etc. NONE of this is new, unfortunately, it will continue....businesses in cities better have good insurance because when looting starts, please check the ethnicity of majority of looters on camera, because trying to prevent looting will get you killed and called a racist- NONE of this has changed much.....and when the rubble is swept up, demands will be made to fix our communities, have more diversity AND few changes might be made....BUT don't forget....in 60's it was LOVE not WAR...how we doing.
"You've never lived till you've almost died, life has a flavor the protected will never know" A vet or cop
JMHO, after watching the video, because it didn't affect me, not near any looting, demonstrations, etc....life goes on. I wanted to see what was the latest commotion about. Watching that video sickened me. I could not believe what happened, BUT I got real PO at citizens watching guy die with their phones out, videoing it....THEIR only need was to document. I saw no guns drawn, why couldn't several citizens step forward and stop the cop/cops. I'm disappointed in the on lookers who just stood there like sheep letting that happen. Lookers not doers. Stop it, get arrested for saving a life.....the whole thing STINKS, all cops present should be up for murder. Couldn't believe the onlookers comments AND do nothing other cops who let it happen.
"You've never lived till you've almost died, life has a flavor the protected will never know" A vet or cop
JMHO, after watching the video, because it didn't affect me, not near any looting, demonstrations, etc....life goes on. I wanted to see what was the latest commotion about. Watching that video sickened me. I could not believe what happened, BUT I got real PO at citizens watching guy die with their phones out, videoing it....THEIR only need was to document. I saw no guns drawn, why couldn't several citizens step forward and stop the cop/cops. I'm disappointed in the on lookers who just stood there like sheep letting that happen. Lookers not doers. Stop it, get arrested for saving a life.....the whole thing STINKS, all cops present should be up for murder. Couldn't believe the onlookers comments AND do nothing other cops who let it happen.
If you were an onlooker who got in the middle of that, you would have been DOA #2
