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Trump says he will designate antifa a terrorist organization

Trump says he will designate antifa a terrorist organization
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President Trump on Sunday tweeted that he was preparing to designate anti-fascist activists known as "antifa" as a terrorist organization amid growing unrest in U.S. cities in response to the death of a black man at the hands of police.

"The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization," Trump tweeted, as the nation reeled from another night of protests sweeping the country, from Minneapolis, Minn., to Columbus, Ohio, to Washington, D.C.



His announcement came the same day Attorney General William Barr said the Justice Department would seek to identify "criminal organizers and instigators" amid the demonstrators, who have been protesting the killing of George Floyd, a black man who died in police custody in Minneapolis on Monday.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...st-organization

So the fascist POTUS is going to declare the anti fascist group to be terrorists, imagine that... smfh

He is also the reason the group has grown in size, he and his redneck rebellion followers. Maybe the violent groups doing all the damage should be verified before labeling ANTIFA. I suspect right wingers of being behind the violent destruction in these riots...

Nazi's hate being punched in the nose.

And for those that want to label me, I'm not a member of ANTIFA, but I am anti fascist.

Thanks for the post. Too bad that it doesn't undo the sentiment Trump is spreading.

A resolution to designate Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization was introduced in the Senate in 2019, stating that Antifa "represents opposition to the democratic ideals of peaceful assembly and free speech for all[.]"

The measure, sponsored by Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-La., and co-sponsored by Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, came in response to threats and actions Antifa-affiliated individuals made against ICE officials and journalist Andy Ngo.

I wonder if politicians will be so swift to try and enact legislation aimed at stopping murders like we just saw with George Floyd?

Trump and the Senate will probably dig it up to try and box in the Dems. Vote for labeling them terrorist and the dems are associated to them AND help Trump install his brand of Fascism. Vote against it and "you are protecting terrorist" will become a talking point on the campaigns. Meanwhile right wing redneck rebels with their militias can storm state buildings while being armed to the teeth with every intention of intimidating public officials and walk away completely free, even cheered on by this POTUS.

Antifa = hate group. Once it is determined who organized the terrorism the AG will issue arrest warrants and will allow the business owners who had property damage to sue the organizers.

They go to jail, they get sued!

Completely ignoring the Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists and the KKK because there some very fine people there.

I was looking for the Antifa HQ and during my search I found this on Wiki... I've heard all this before but this was a pretty concise write up about the hoaxes that are put out by the Alt Right,.,,



I'm also aware that just about anyone can edit Wiki... FWIW

The republican party should change their name to the anti-racist party then you could never call them racists again because.. well.. because of their name. <smdh>

I don't care what their name is, they are anarchists who use the fascist playbook of violence and intimidation to try to get their message across. And at some point, you have to look beyond what they call themselves and look at their actions...


Of course you do. <rolleyes>.. and there might be some truth behind it.. but I can tell you first hand that their are antifa folks at these riots, they have been behind throwing things at police under otherwise peaceful circumstances... They are sh*t stirrers, that's what they like to do... they want violence, violence grows their numbers, violence makes them more relevant.

As far as who is behind the violence at these riots, they are involved.... they are not alone, but they are involved.

I think the problem is where people try to draw lines in the sand. Of course there are groups from both sides of the political spectrum inciting this violence. It furthers the cause of both sides.

One thing I do find very odd though is how when people such as myself tried to label right wing shootings and violence as "domestic terrorism" even before Antifa was around, I was told that there was no such thing as domestic terrorism. There is currently no law on the books for or defining domestic terrorism.

And as is expected from the current administration, now that they feel it will further their cause, they wish to make it "a thing". One only needs to look at the statements made to see this. While Barr was more general in his statement, the only organization he named as labeling domestic terrorists was Antifa. Trump only wants Antifa to be investigated.

I have no problem, and have actually advocated that domestic terrorism be made law and investigated. My only point is that it should be pointed out, investigated on both sides and that you name the groups on both sides.

This has become a national crisis and should be handled the way it really is. It certainly isn't about "good people on both sides".

My wife is currently in the middle of a full blown anxiety attack because Antifa is tweeting about taking their fight out of the city tonight and into the suburbs.. they have specifically called out the Walmart not far from me. The restaurant my son will be working at tonight is around the corner in the same shopping center.

As sad as it is to say, if the restaurant he works at has any common sense at all, they will be closing and he will not have to report for work. Secondly, this is why we have the second amendment. People ask why do you feel the need to own guns? My answer has always been, "It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it".

Now may be the time you need it. I wish you all the best.

Not trying to get involved with your family's business, but this was said last night as well. Saying Antifa is going to take over residential neighborhoods, etc. Nothing happened.

Anyone can create fake accounts and stir the pot.

I posted this article earlier from a bogus website where this all started about Antifa taking over neighborhoods.

Taking a break from social media could do this country a lot of good. Misinformation spreading like wildfire.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/anti...idential-areas/

I agree. It could be Antifa saying it but not meaning it just to create fear... it could be somebody pretending to be Antifa doing it for the same reason...

On a side note, I just dropped him off at work so if anything bad happens, his car isn't in the parking lot when it does. He has plenty of friends there who said they will get him out if it really gets ugly..

the thing is, he's very sympathetic to the BLM cause... he's actually very much on the protestors side as long as they keep it peaceful.

On my way I stopped at Sheetz to get air in my tire and the grocery store to pick up a prescription... I saw at least 7 or 8 people open carrying on their hip... I don't think these people would go looking for trouble but the mix of urban/rural folks that live around here, this would not be the best direction to bring their protest.

You know nothing. Sure you talk like you know all about it, but all I hear is GOPerisms. Look a white guy dressed in all black! ANTIFA! TERRORIST! or is it a Johnny Cash impersonator? smh YOU KNOW NOTHING!

Care to share those tweets? I'd like to debunk them for you. Might put your wife at ease...

DC or anyone else that is interested...

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This viral tweet claiming to be Antifa calling for violence in residential areas was actually tweeted by white nationalist group Identity Evropa, Twitter told NBC News.

I won't post the actually tweet that alleged to be from an Antifa group due to profanity, but anyone could go to Ben Collins twitter handle @oneunderscore_ to see it.

Keith Ellison responds to son's antifa tweet: 'A comment about the absurdity of the president's comment'

Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison (D) said Monday that his son’s tweet in support of antifa was more a comment about the “absurdity” of President Trump’s remarks blaming proponents of the anti-fascist ideology for violence at recent demonstrations across the country over the police killing of George Floyd.

“I think that was a comment about the absurdity of the president’s comment more than anything else,” Ellison said Monday on CNN.



Minneapolis City Councilman Jeremiah Ellison tweeted on Sunday that he was declaring his “support for ANTIFA."

"Unless someone can prove to me ANTIFA is behind the burning of black and immigrant owned businesses in my ward, I’ll keep focusing on stopping the white power terrorist THE ARE ACTUALLY ATTACKING US!” the younger Ellison tweeted.

His comment included a retweet of Trump’s post announcing that he would be designating antifa a terrorist organization.



Keith Ellison, a former congressman and top Democratic National Committee official, said he has not seen any evidence that violence at demonstrations in Minnesota has been linked to antifa, which is an umbrella term for loosely organized far-left groups that are often militant.

“We don't see what the president is talking about, I don't think the president sees what he's talking about,” he told CNN.

Ellison said he will not let the comments from the president, which he said are not helpful, distract or deter him from seeking justice for Floyd.

He added that violent demonstrators are “trying to tarnish” the work of the peaceful protesters nationwide and need to be investigated.

Trump’s announcement that he would declare antifa a terrorist organization followed a statement from Attorney General William Barr that also blamed some of the violence carried out over the weekend on antifa.

Barr said in a statement Sunday that the Justice Department would seek to identify “criminal organizers and instigators” amid the demonstrations.

“The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly,” he said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch...mment-about-the

Ok, bro.

White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter


https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/tw...havior-n1221456

Yep, OK, bro.

This won't be the last "not ANTIFA" group turned up during all of this. And I'm not saying that 100% of looters were alt-right fringe, but they were instigating and agitating. The MO did not fit ANTIFA. There may even be a few Antifa members involved in damaging things and looting, but they have/were not organized to do it in any way that I'm aware of. I'm not part of ANTIFA, but I read about a lot of things they get involved with and riots/looting doesn't fit their MO. Acting to stop fascism, racism, etc. does fit their MO. So when the far right show up to spread hate, look for ANTIFA.

Antifa is just the lefts version of the Proud Boys.

Yes I can see how you would think anti fascists were just a version of fascists. You probably think the same of all those anti fascist that fought and won WWII... or maybe they are a young form of patriot in a time where fascism has penetrated the US government at the highest levels.

They have their bad apples, but I'd break bread with ANTIFA faster than I would a Trump.

I refuse to support any organization from either side that sews division and advocates violence. You're smart enough to know that a name means nothing. Your actions mean everything. So I don't care what a groups name is. You however feel that has some meaning. Would you like for me to show you right wing radical groups that hide under the label of Christianity? That doesn't mean their actions represent Christians.

I hope you will forgive me if I would rather eat alone than break bread with Antifa, the Proud Boys or Trump. I've seen enough from all of them to know they are not people I wish to sit at the dinner table with.

You probably interact with ANTIFA members/supporters and fascists all the time and just don't know it. The majority of ANTIFA are just college kids and young liberal adults.

What do you feel the average age of those who are rioting are? I'm not saying that these riots are being instigated by Antifa. Or at least not by Antifa alone. I lack the evidence needed for me to come to a complete conclusion on that.

There is a big difference between interacting with people and making a choice in sitting down to dinner with someone. To make such a choice you would first have to know who they affiliate themselves with.

Unlike yourself, I don't absolve someone of their actions because they are "college kids" or "young liberal adults". I think there is enough guilt to go around on both sides. My granddaughter is both a college student and a young, liberal adult. I'm very proud of her.

But she will not affiliate herself with such groups. We all have choices and as such are responsible for the choices we make.

There was a time in this country where Fascists and Communists where both seen as evil. I still see them both as evil. I would not condone 1 group above the other. Hate is Hate. Evil is Evil. Plain and simple.

Just ask them to sing "Hurt" we will know if it's a Johnny impersonator real quick.

Rasmussen Reports


49% Say ‘Antifa’ Is A Terrorist Organization
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Wednesday, June 03, 2020

Voters are more critical of the police response to the latest outburst of black protest nationwide but also tend to agree with President Trump that the so-called “antifa” movement thought to be behind much of the violence should be labeled as terrorists.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 49% of Likely U.S. Voters think the “antifa" movement should be designated a terrorist organization. Thirty percent (30%) disagree, while 22% are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Forty percent (40%) believe the mob violence that has erupted in several cities during protests over the police killing of an unarmed man in Minneapolis is legitimate outrage over what happened. Forty-nine percent (49%) disagree and say it’s mostly criminals taking advantage of the situation. Eleven percent (11%) are not sure. Voters see more legitimacy in the latest protests than they did in similar ones in Baltimore in 2015 and St. Louis in 2017.

Thirty-one percent (31%) of voters now think most police departments are too aggressive in dealing with violent protesters, while 28% believe they are not aggressive enough. Just 30% think the response is about right. Eleven percent (11%) again are undecided.

This is a more critical view of the police than voters had two years ago when only 16% said they were too aggressive versus 30% who felt they were not aggressive enough. Forty-seven percent (47%) rated their response as about right.

(Want a free daily email update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on June 1-2, 2020 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

Following the beating of a gay journalist by “antifa” activists in Portland, Oregon last summer, just 22% of voters expressed a favorable opinion of the radical group. Only 30% felt “antifa” was a valid protest movement representing the concerns of many Americans.

Fifty-one percent (51%) of black voters feel the mob violence in the latest protests is primarily legitimate outrage, while 53% of whites see it as mostly criminal. Other minority voters are evenly divided. Blacks are twice as likely as whites to think that most police departments are too aggressive in dealing with violent protesters.

Republicans (72%) are far more supportive of designating the “antifa" movement a terrorist organization than Democrats (32%) and voters not affiliated with either major party (43%) are.

But then 69% of Republicans and a plurality (47%) of unaffiliated voters view the mob violence in the latest protests as mostly criminals taking advantage of the situation. Fifty-eight percent (58%) of Democrats consider the violence legitimate outrage for the most part. Democrats (51%) are also much more likely than GOP voters (14%) and unaffiliateds (26%) to view the police response as too aggressive.

Only 26% of voters who see the mob violence in the latest protests as legitimate outrage regard “antifa” as a terrorist organization. This compares to 72% of those who see the violence as mostly criminal.

Just 10% of all Americans think most police officers are racist. Most also have said in surveys for the past several years that the majority of deaths that involve the police are the fault of the suspect. Rasmussen Reports will update these findings tomorrow.

Sixty-nine percent (69%) of voters continue to believe that most politicians raise racial issues just to get elected, not to solve real problems.


https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_...tm_medium=email

Good. It's about time.

Feed people enough propaganda and they'll believe anything.

Trump and his ANTIFA rhetoric is dangerous...

Family camping in Washington harassed by locals, accused of being antifa members

A multiracial family in Washington state were harassed by locals and accused of being anti-fascist activists, or antifa members, on Wednesday, with residents cutting down trees to prevent them from leaving.

The Clallam County Sheriff’s Office said in a statement that the family of four from Spokane were driving a full-size school bus and prepared to camp off a logging road near the town of Forks.

The family — a husband and wife, their 16-year-old daughter and the husband’s mother — had stopped for camping supplies at Forks Outfitters when police say they were stopped “by seven or eight car loads of people in the grocery store parking lot.”

“The people in the parking lot repeatedly asked them if they were ‘ANTIFA’ protesters. The family told the people they weren’t associated with any such group and were just camping,” the statement posted to Facebook said. “The family had to drive their bus around vehicles in the parking lot in order to get back onto Highway 101.”

After driving away, the family says they were followed by four vehicles.

They told police that passengers in two of the cars appeared to be carrying what looked like semiautomatic rifles.

The bus pulled off onto a logging spur road and the family said they pitched a tent for the night. However, they began to pack up when they heard gunshots and power saws nearby.

Concerned for their safety, the family attempted to leave but discovered that someone had cut down trees across the road to block their path.

Four students at Forks High School contacted police as they made their way toward the family to help them, the statement noted. The teenagers used their own chainsaw to cut the felled trees and clear the roadway for the family.

The family’s bus broke down shortly after, and officers helped them get it running again so they could leave the area, the sheriff’s office said.

The Clallam County Sheriff’s office said it is actively conducting a criminal investigation into the incident and is seeking information regarding the persons involved.

Forks is a town of roughly 3,800 people located in Washington’s Olympic Peninsula, roughly 3 1/2 hours from Seattle.

The confrontation came days after President Trump said he was preparing to formally label anti-fascist activists known as antifa as a terrorist organization.

Trump’s remarks followed sweeping nationwide protests following the death of George Floyd, a black man who recently died during an arrest by police in Minneapolis.

Antifa activists, dubbed the "alt-left" by Trump and his proponents, have become increasingly visible since the president's victory in 2016. Terrorism experts responded to his Sunday announcement by noting that the group is a decentralized movement and not a traditional organization with designated leadership. Some also noted various far-right domestic terrorist groups that have not received such designation from the administration.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-...cals-accused-of

This is some 'the hills have eyes' crap right here... pure ignorance.

Trump doing what he does best - spreading hate and division.

Another good read Sunday morning - not about Antifa, but about how like Trump's knee jerk announcement without any formal policy or preparedness he has said he's pulling 9500 troops out of Germany.... And how he is alienating the USA from traditional allies, pulling stunts that benefit Putin, sowing seeds of uncertainty and division. . . . The article doesn't claim the decision to pull the troops is a direct reaction to Merkel stating she would not attend G7 meeting later this year, but I think it's a pretty safe bet based on the way it was announced and the timing etc ... read and make your own decision. . . . to quote Bonefish from a different thread - the behavior and mental capacity of a spoiled adolescent brat. Although that might be a bit unkind to adolescents.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/06/world/europe/germany-troop-withdrawal-america.html

Good, when they arrest a group of white supremacists posing as ANTIFA they‘ll get what’s coming to them.

Under the 2001 USA Patriot Act,

domestic terrorism is defined as "activities that (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the U.S. or of any state; (B) appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S." This definition is made for the purposes of authorizing law enforcement investigations. While international terrorism ("acts of terrorism transcending national boundaries") is a defined crime in federal law,[5] no federal criminal offense exists which is referred to as "domestic terrorism". Acts of domestic terrorism are charged under specific laws, such as killing federal agents or "attempting to use explosives to destroy a building in interstate commerce".[6]

Antifa is more than guilty of this. There are tons of videos on YouTube showing them doing it.They are using mob violence to assault people.

No kidding ..Right? And the way they can perfectly stage their tripping and falling and bleeding from their heads on live TV..despicable right?

Thank god the KKK and white supremacy groups aren’t included in that patriot act as terrorist groups. That would be tragic.

I don't know about ANTIFA being the bad guys, but those paramilitary militia that stormed the state capitol buildings might have a problem:

(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion;