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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Well obviously the 75 year old was a threat to the safety of the 20 thirty year old cops in that group... smfh

Not all thugs wear hoodies.


It's even more callous if you watch the whole thing...

Happens at the 8:08 mark here

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1jMJgQRwAXmKL

There's literally nothing going on before. There is no skirmish, no bottles. There are maybe a 10 civilians even within 50 feet -- mostly just a bunch of news cameras. The guy that they arrest 10 seconds later is running to the older man's aid.

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Stormtroopers of the fascist variety.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Stormtroopers of the fascist variety.


Never been a huge Star Wars guy. Would it be Darth Donald or Trump Vader


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Originally Posted By: Jester
Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Stormtroopers of the fascist variety.


Never been a huge Star Wars guy. Would it be Darth Donald or Trump Vader


Sorry I spelled it as one word meant:

storm troop·er
/ˈstôrm ˌtro͞opər/

noun
plural noun: storm troopers

a soldier trained specially for carrying out a sudden assault.
"a small crew surrounded by riot-geared storm troopers"

HISTORICAL

a member of the Nazi political militia.
"Nazi storm troopers stormed the offices of the trade unions"


a vigorous advocate or defender of a cause.
"the storm troopers of political correctness"

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I think either applies. From the Star Wars that I have seen, it seems as if Trump is trying to create that kind of rule.


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I like how the cops tried to claim the old man tripped and fell....

Then came the video. But yea, we need to trust and support law enforcement.

Sure.


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I try not to watch many videos on this board because I usually know what the message will be simply by who is posting the video.

I also don't share videos because I don't want to make a definitive stance on such issues. I believe that there are good and bad in all races and that showing one side is a disservice to us all. However, you run your big mouth too much. So, here is a demonstration of blacks protesting for social justice.



This is a dumb game you guys are playing. Stop trying to further the divide.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
I like how the cops tried to claim the old man tripped and fell....

Then came the video. But yea, we need to trust and support law enforcement.

Sure.



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Park police: Cyclist filmed assaulting people posting signs

https://www.yahoo.com/news/park-police-cyclist-filmed-assaulting-021517761.html

If that was my daughter being assaulted like that, the scum bag responsible would be eating his bike and helmet.


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I like how the cops tried to claim the old man tripped and fell....

Then came the video. But yea, we need to trust and support law enforcement.

Sure.






I am not completely convinced one way or another about this particular video.

Was he pushed? Yes but not with much force. He looks like a guy trying to over exaggerate the effects of the push and in doing so falls harder than he intended and hits his head and bleeds. Maybe he was just old and weak and frail but the push was not very aggressive - IMO


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Well, the old guy went hands on first, and the push wasn't that aggressive. That's all the police spokesman had to say. What would possess someone to think that it's ok to go hands on with an on edge officer in full riot gear. What was he grabbing for, was the officers weapon on that side?


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Ah, the old, "He's going for my gun" defense.


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The guy was 75 years old. I doubt he was exaggerating it for effect, imo.

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So now your endearing yourself to ,OLD WHITE MEN, how convenient.
LMFAO ....

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Originally Posted By: jfanent
Well, the old guy went hands on first, and the push wasn't that aggressive. That's all the police spokesman had to say. What would possess someone to think that it's ok to go hands on with an on edge officer in full riot gear. What was he grabbing for, was the officers weapon on that side?


Sorry - to me it seems you are trying to excuse the inexcusable or otherwise justify this. I don't buy it. I think any industrialized nation on earth would look at this and say "this is NOT what you want from your police officers" there is nothing appropriate or reasonable about this in my eyes.


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So now your endearing yourself to ,OLD WHITE MEN, how convenient.
LMFAO ....


Unlike "some old white men", some others do actually get it.

In case you missed it, which it appears you have, these protests contain people of all ages and races. A more diverse cross section of America is seeing what's going on and standing up against it.

Yet some continue to race bait. (Check your previous post as a reference)


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When the president of a nation claims the press is "the enemy of the people" then you start seeing them getting arrested and attacked by police officers at protests, what other conclusion in the globe supposed to come to?


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Trump clashes with black female reporter again who asks about unemployment rates: 'You're something'

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Donald Trump clashed with reporters Friday during a press conference that featured him ignoring questions and telling a black journalist she is "something" when she asked about rising minority unemployment rates.

The president came to the Rose Garden for a hastily arranged press conference to tout better-than-predicted employment figures. The Labor Department said the unemployment rate dropped to 13.3 per cent from 14.7 per cent last month.

He unleashed a rather meandering string of words about various topics, and eventually sat down at a table to sign legislation focused on helping small businesses bounce back from the Covid-19 pandemic.

That's when Yamiche Alcindor of PBS and another reporter tried to ask him questions. Mr Trump, whose staff counsels press members about his preference they have "good decorum" regularly, was not amused.

He ignored a question about George Floyd, a black man killed by white police officers in Minneapolis last week. And he grew agitated with Ms Alcindor when she asked how, despite lower overall unemployment, rising joblessness among African-Americans and Asian-Americans could be considered positives.

"Excuse me, I'd like to sign this bill," Mr Trump said before telling Ms Alcindor: "You are something."

She soon defended herself on Twitter, calling her's a "critical question."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-clashes-black-female-reporter-145400437.html


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The way he attacks anyone that asks him the tough questions or questions him in any way tells people everything they need to know about the man. At least for anyone paying attention.

I find the entire economy thing somewhat of a mystery however. We had a strong economy when Trump was elected. He used the very tools you need to help a failing economy to recover, just to bolster an already strong economy. (Tax cuts and lowered interest rates.) Now when the economy does falter, those tools are gone.

Beyond that, when the shut downs happened, of course unemployment was going to balloon to great proportions. That would have taken place no matter who our president was. Likewise, when things start opening back up, more people will be going back to work.

Both are just the natural progressions of the circumstances. Those on the left are wrong trying to blame Trump for the Covid-19 economy. Trump is just as wrong for trying to take a victory lap for people going back to work as things are opening back up.


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But, but... ANTIFA!!!


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Originally Posted By: Lyuokdea
It's even more callous if you watch the whole thing...

Happens at the 8:08 mark here

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1jMJgQRwAXmKL

There's literally nothing going on before. There is no skirmish, no bottles. There are maybe a 10 civilians even within 50 feet -- mostly just a bunch of news cameras. The guy that they arrest 10 seconds later is running to the older man's aid.


Update to the story.


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I'd argue the protests are working with all these announcements of action taking place by police departments.

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Ah, the old, "He's going for my gun" defense.


I asked a question. The guy definitely approached and initiated contact.


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If that's the type of incident they are willing to stand behind, good riddance.


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I saw nothing in his conduct that warranted that type of response. I don't wish to live in a world of, "If you touch me I will hurt you". It was a 75 year old elderly man. There was nothing threatening in his conduct.

The man is currently in the hospital in serious condition.


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To be fair, the police barely touched him. He lost his balance and fell down.

People saying he got shoved to the ground are grossly exaggerating.


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Oh it was certainly gross. How hard do you have to shove a 75 year old man to knock him down?


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
To be fair, the police barely touched him. He lost his balance and fell down.

People saying he got shoved to the ground are grossly exaggerating.


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
To be fair, the police barely touched him. He lost his balance and fell down.

People saying he got shoved to the ground are grossly exaggerating.


Does it matter how hard the shove was or wasn't?

Was he a threat? Were these trained police officers? Are you telling me that in the face of a non threatening 75 year old man, this was an acceptable outcome?

Question for anyone who may know - are all these police not required to have body cams on to record every interaction? I'd love to hear the exchange and see body cam footage.


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To be fair, the police barely touched him. He lost his balance and fell down.

People saying he got shoved to the ground are grossly exaggerating.


Does it matter how hard the shove was or wasn't?

Was he a threat? Were these trained police officers? Are you telling me that in the face of a non threatening 75 year old man, this was an acceptable outcome?

Question for anyone who may know - are all these police not required to have body cams on to record every interaction? I'd love to hear the exchange and see body cam footage.


I have to agree with Eve on this one. It looks like nothing more than a step back away nudge. It certainly wasn't a full on shove. They had no idea knowing how old he was. Nor how fragile. I saw another video from a different angle that had more footage leading up to it and he was certainly quite limber in his movement prior to the fall.

I think this was the case of an unfortunate consequence to an act that was done without anger or malice or intent.


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
To be fair, the police barely touched him. He lost his balance and fell down.

People saying he got shoved to the ground are grossly exaggerating.


It was a pretty good shove -- most people would have stumbled backwards. They probably didn't expect him to hit his head -- and a younger person would have probably had better balance to brace their fall. But police, especially riot police -- should be able to make these judgements.

That said -- he wasn't doing anything threatening -- somebody above said he was going for a gun???? He doesn't even touch the officer, and his hand is fully grasping his cell phone the whole time.

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Park police: Cyclist filmed assaulting people posting signs

https://www.yahoo.com/news/park-police-cyclist-filmed-assaulting-021517761.html

If that was my daughter being assaulted like that, the scum bag responsible would be eating his bike and helmet.



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