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Houston has a hospitalization rate at 97% and rising. Others are seeing hospitalization rates rising rapidly. I guess some of them feel they should wait until the hospitals are overrun before taking the actions needed to slow down the problem.

I don't think the hospitalization rate is 97%, that would be insane.

I believe the ICU capacity is at or near 97%.

Houston Facing ‘Apocalyptic’ July 4 Holiday as Virus Surges

Bloomberg
Joe Carroll
BloombergJune 25, 2020
(Bloomberg) -- Houston’s Covid-19 outbreak is accelerating at an exponential pace that will swamp the fourth-largest U.S. city’s medical infrastructure by the Independence Day holiday, less than two weeks away, a leading disease specialist warned.

Even as Houston-area intensive-care wards approach full capacity, the worst is yet to come because of “the huge amount of transmission going on in our community,” Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, said in an interview Thursday.

Current trends in Harris County, which includes Houston, indicate the caseload will triple or quadruple by mid-July, Hotez said, citing modeling by the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia’s PolicyLab. Such a scenario would be “apocalyptic,” he said. “We can’t go there.”

Hotez’s remarks came a day after the Texas Medical Center warned the Houston region’s intensive-care capacity was quickly filling up and would soon force medical authorities to convert other facilities to ad hoc Covid-19 wards. Harris County officials said they are prepared to reopen a field hospital at a professional football stadium if so-called surge capacity shows signs of strain.

The trajectory of new cases is “going vertical,” Hotez said. “That’s what epidemic diseases classically do.”

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You are correct.

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White House explains why Trump isn't subject to New Jersey quarantine order: He's "not a civilian"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-new-j...Ifk89OXyuB5QiWY

The headline alone helps explain a lot.

.American coronavirus testing remains fragmented, as in the early days of the pandemic, and the bottlenecks are the same ones, too.
People seeking drive-up coronavirus tests in Phoenix faced a three-mile-long car line last weekend. On Friday, Arizona's largest laboratory received twice as many samples as it could process. The phone line for testing appointments at a large site on the state fairgrounds now opens at 7 a.m. with 800 callers already in the queue.

By 7:07 a.m., all 1,000 appointments for the day are typically taken.

"We are literally overwhelmed with the numbers requested," said Dr. Marjorie Bessel, chief clinical officer at Banner Health, the hospital system that runs the fairground site. "The testing is very popular, and very needed, but we don't have enough of it."...



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/25/upshot/virus-testing-shortfall-arizona.html

It was very disappointing to see how unprepared the country was for this type of event. It is much worse to see that this many months into the pandemic we are still having the same issues. I did not place the blame for the initial consequences of the outbreak on anyone. From here on out, these types of situations rest squarely on the shoulders of this administration and their supporters.

The WHO helped mislead the world, and more specifically the US on direction for wearing masks. They also helped China in an advantageous way. This has become a well known fact the past couple of months and I am so proud of President Trump for de-funding them as they don't deserve a damn cent from the US.

If you are behind in the news that's understandable. If not then there's no excuse for you to still believe in the WHO. They have ZERO IDEA what they're doing and are not credible anymore. I know its tempting for you to believe in a collectivist type organization because you like globalism and believe in that type of stuff but come on...

I know the only expert on the virus is Trump.

Hey, I apologized. Now why don't you guys run along and sip on some Zimas and talk about who your favorite character is on "Friends".

Blaming the WHO is silly, yet you go back to it again and again... The WHO follows the USA and CDC not the other way around.

Trump is blaming everyone and anyone - and he specifically has blamed the WHO. Trump supporters are going to repeat what their guy says, and it literally won't change regardless of how compelling an argument and what facts you bring.

Trump Follows Through on Threat to ‘Slow the Testing Down'
Tim Dickinson
June 25, 2020, 12:32 PM EDT

During his Tulsa rally last weekend, President Trump said the quiet part out loud, confessing that he sees coronavirus testing as a political threat and wants to diminish America’s caseload by doing a worse job of measuring it. “Testing is a double edged sword,” Trump told the sparse Oklahoma crowd. “Here’s the bad part. When you do testing…. you will find more cases. So I said to my people, ‘Slow the testing down, please.’”

After a gaslighty news cycle in which top deputies insisted that Trump was being facetious, Trump clarified, “I don’t kid,” and even expanded his thinking on Twitter: “Cases up only because of our big number testing.”

Science is not Trump’s strong suit. After a precipitous drop, the percentage of positive cases is now rising again — pointing to an increase in disease, not simply a greater availability of diagnostics. And as states like Texas that were largely spared in the initial months of the outbreak have emerged as hot spots, the United States just experienced a record for new cases, with 38,672 in a single day, surpassing a mark from late April.



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Overall, the number of tests that came back positive today was 7.7%, the highest number since May 10.

The South and West are driving the numbers up.
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The real news today is that the U.S. set a record for new cases today: 38,672.

The previous record was April 25 at 36,001.
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Despite — or perhaps because of — these shameful numbers, the administration is following through on Trump’s orders to slow down testing. The Department of Health and Human Services has announced it will pull funding from more than a dozen drive-through testing sites across five states, including Texas, at the end of the month.

The move has left top Democrats incensed: “The pandemic is clearly getting worse in states nationwide,” Sen. Patty Murray of Washington state, the ranking Democrat on the health committee, said in a blast to reporters, “and instead of trying harder to stop it, President Trump is apparently trying harder to hide it.”

Resources are not the issue. This move comes after Democratic senators called out the administration for failing to spend nearly $14 billion that Congress appropriated to increase testing.

Trump’s latest testing remarks build on a long history of him viewing the accurate testing of coronavirus cases as a public-relations threat. In March, when the pandemic was about to explode across America, Trump spoke at the Centers for Disease Control about his reluctance to let in infected passengers of a cruise ship because it would swell the U.S. total, which then stood at just 240 known cases. “I like the numbers being where they are,” Trump said. “I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship.”

Trump hit this theme again in May as the COVID death toll neared 75,000: “In a way, by doing all of this testing,” he said, “we make ourselves look bad.” As the controversy swirled this week, Trump insisted America has done “too good a job” in testing.

The U.S. death toll from COVID is now nearly 125,000. Ironically, 90 percent or more of that grim tally could have been avoided with effective testing. Other developed countries that minimized the impact of this pandemic relied on early, aggressive testing to guide other mitigation efforts.


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-follows-threat-slow-testing-163220493.html

And the people of this board thought it was a great idea to let Pence lead this effort because "you complain about politics!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I'll start cooking the crow.

I thought the Kush god was in charge of the show recently.

But it’s way more important to cover the TMZ president and his constant gossiping.

This dude really turned it into reality tv. It’s really disheartening.

trump disappears as cases surge

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...rds/ar-BB15YpgG

What a guy.

Anyone in an antimask rally should be ashamed of themselves.
And that guy in particular should have extra shame.

Pretty sure they are die hard libertarians.

Fingers crossed for those with pre-existing conditions.

Trump isnt very bright.

Yes, lets get rid of Obamacare right in the middle of a national health emergency.

Dumbass. He really doesnt want to be re-elected does he.

I can't disagree. An out strategy.

He never really wanted the job in the first place.



"I'm trying to get out from under this millstone, but these dumbasses love me too much to let me escape...."

You finally get it. Yep one payer healthcare is a must. Socialized healthcare for all like most of the free world has.

Did you read what Eve wrote? He isn’t that bright.

I vote for Rachael

Hard to argue that point....errrr, ummmm....

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Its a democratic hoax.
Its like 15 people it will go down to zero.
Anyone can get a test.
Top doctors said I really get this I should have been a Dr.
It will go away like a miracle.
It will go away with warm weather
Cities should liberate!
Masks optional
Testing needs to slow down.

trump has killed US citizens in an attempt to get re-elected

Wow, for the first time in nearly 2 months pence is going to hold a covid press conference today.
I wonder if he is going to ask the CDC to come along

Maybe to say mission accomplished

and he would not say wear a mask or face coverings! Just like he would never say black lives matter. Sometimes its not what you say but what you dont say. He has an opportunity to help slow the spread and he just could not say those words. "Wear a mask or face coverings". This was a propaganda press conference he gave no information on how current circumstances are going to be addressed. And hey where was trump hiding?

Please no one tell me he said PPE. He did, but he would not say wear a mask or face coverings to help us in the crisis. Those words would help save lives

Zima tastes like zit and the show Friends sucks!

Gov. Greg Abbott orders Texas bars to close again and restaurants to reduce to 50% occupancy as coronavirus spreads

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/26/texas-bars-restaurants-coronavirus-greg-abbott/


Miami will close beaches for Fourth of July weekend

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/miami-closes-beaches-july-4-weekend-coronavirus-cases-surge-florida/