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It is still not substantiated.
It is still not verified.
It is still not proven.

If ever it is, I have no doubt we will punish Russia.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
It is still not substantiated.
It is still not verified.
It is still not proven.

If ever it is, I have no doubt we will punish Russia.


rofl Putin is winning this battle plus trump is scared of Putin.


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And 40, like Trump, sides with the Russians.


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Trump Calls Bounty Report A 'Hoax' Despite Administration's Briefing Of Congress


You just can’t make this stuff up.


https://www.npr.org/2020/07/01/885909588...ing-of-congress


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Is there any proof of this is what im asking?


Yes, plenty of proof...

The CIA Director, National Security Advisor, and the Chief of Staff can all confirm that neither the President nor the Vice President were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence.

Also...

“To date, DOD has no corroborating evidence to validate the recent allegations found in open-source reports."


Then why weren't the above mentioned people allowed to speak with Democratic Reps? Why was only the white house staff allowed to brief the Dems? Tell me 40, What is Trump hiding?


I told you they wanted to catch Biden's son red-handed. But now the covert op has been blown by the NYT.


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The real gem here is you guys falling for another hoax!

Lets see now...

There was Collusion.
Then The Steele Dossier.
Then Ukraine.
Now this.

Hook, Line and Sinker! rofl


You forgot to mention the fake Coronavirus and the fake 120,000 and counting death toll.


Not to belittle or anything of the sort, covid, but I think the u.s. is now at about 130,000 dead. Out of 320,000,000 million.

Maybe I'm not doing the math right, but I think that comes out to about a tenth of a percent.

Correct me if I'm wrong on that - and maybe I am wrong?

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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Is there any proof of this is what im asking?


Yes, plenty of proof...

The CIA Director, National Security Advisor, and the Chief of Staff can all confirm that neither the President nor the Vice President were briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence.

Also...

“To date, DOD has no corroborating evidence to validate the recent allegations found in open-source reports."


And there you have it folks!


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The real gem here is you guys falling for another hoax!

Lets see now...

There was Collusion.
Then The Steele Dossier.
Then Ukraine.
Now this.

Hook, Line and Sinker! rofl


You forgot to mention the fake Coronavirus and the fake 120,000 and counting death toll.


Not to belittle or anything of the sort, covid, but I think the u.s. is now at about 130,000 dead. Out of 320,000,000 million.

Maybe I'm not doing the math right, but I think that comes out to about a tenth of a percent.

Correct me if I'm wrong on that - and maybe I am wrong?


The math is close enough for government work but there are 2 things you are forgetting.

1, the number of deaths continues to rise so that percentage is going to continue to increase.

2, we literally changed the world to keep that 130,000 down. and i mean literally


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Cool.

The number of people testing positive is, uh.......according to headlines, running rampant. Increasing in unbelievable fashion.

So, let's double the death count. That would be 2/10ths of a percent. That's 0.002 .


I'm not discounting that any death, from covid or any other cause, is sad. Just trying to state facts.

I think you also might be missing the fact that the cdc has said cases are probably 10 times higher than reported. The asymptomatic. Factor that in to the 1/10th, or even 2/10ths of a percent, and it makes it literally nothing.

Look, I don't want to get it. No one does.

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I find it interesting that no one has disputed the numbers. Course, it would be hard to dispute.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg

I think you also might be missing the fact that the cdc has said cases are probably 10 times higher than reported. The asymptomatic. Factor that in to the 1/10th, or even 2/10ths of a percent, and it makes it literally nothing.


Didn't miss that. Just didn't find it relevant to what we were discussing.
If true, and I would not be surprised if it is, it doesn't increase the denominator, it changes what you are measuring.

Your 1st post was percentage of deaths per total population. The new number would be percentage of deaths out out of those infected.


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Which would make the percentage of death go down.

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I find it interesting that no one has disputed the numbers. Course, it would be hard to dispute.


The numbers are hard dispute because we all know they are inaccurate but are the most accurate that we have.

Issues are that we have been inadequate in our testing. Inadequate in our contact tracing and testing them. And the variable reliability of various testing modalities. Perhaps other reasons as well.


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So, if the cdc is correct saying the positives could be 10 times higher than what we know, we're doing pretty damn well?

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HEY BOYS...question...

How much is a dead American soldier worth to Trump's best buddy, Putin?

BTW, this thread is not about covid-19...jussayn!


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So, you think the Afgans only killed because of some bounty? Seriously?

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So, you think the Afgans only killed because of some bounty? Seriously?


Obviously they were going to fight no matter what. But if you think that is a defense for Trump and company, you would be wrong. That's the problem with Trump supporters, anything and everything is alright since y'all need to justify your 2016 vote.

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This is the Afghan contractor who delivered Russian cash to the Taliban: report

Published 12 mins ago on July 1, 2020
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According to the New York Times, Afghan contractor Rahmatullah Azizi was the one who delivered cash from the Russian GRU to the Taliban for their pledge to kill American soldiers for the Russians.

“He was a lowly drug smuggler, neighbors and relatives say,” about Azizi. Then he started working on projects that involved funneling money into projects in Afghanistan.

“As security agencies connected the dots of the bounty scheme and narrowed in on him, they carried out sweeping raids to arrest dozens of his relatives and associates about six months ago, but discovered that Mr. Azizi had sneaked out of Afghanistan and was likely back in Russia,” the Times reported. “What they did find in one of his homes, in Kabul, was about half a million dollars in cash.”

Officials in both the U.S. and Afghanistan have been warning about the scheme for years. But it was only after the Times broke the story, that elected officials, including President Donald Trump, seemed to learn about it.

According to Times reporter Rukmini Callimachi, who appeared on MSNBC Wednesday, the funds were being sent from Russia regardless of whether the Taliban followed through with killing soldiers or not. There was no report back to the GRU about casualties. The money continued to flow.

“None of those interviewed who know Mr. Azizi were surprised when his associates were raided about six months ago and one of his brothers taken into custody with the half a million dollars in cash,” said the Times. “As one of his friends put it, he had gone from ‘not even having a blanket’ to having multiple houses, fancy cars, and security escorts.”

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So, you think the Afgans only killed because of some bounty? Seriously?


arc...honestly, I doubt that you care how our soldiers are killed in Afghanistan.

If you take the time to read up on some of the things that might motivate an Afghan killer, you might be able to answer your own question.


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The death toll tally of the trump admin.........more American’s dead than WW1, desert storm, and the Afghanistan war combined. trump doesn’t care about American lives or American soldiers. The POS only cares about himself. Pfft trump and his supporters.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
So, you think the Afgans only killed because of some bounty? Seriously?


And you really think Putin’s bounty money had nothing to do with Afghans killing American’s? Seriously?

Pffft trump and Putin supporters.


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If there is even a little truth to this, then Trump once again has handled it like a dunce.

Anything he perceives as negative towards him is instantly a Democratic Hoax.


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If there is even a little truth to this, then Trump once again has handled it like a dunce.

Anything he perceives as negative towards him is instantly a Democratic Hoax.



Considering all the other dem hoaxes, you're actually surprised by that?


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'dem hoaxes' ~ smh

Oh yes, all those hoaxes... Ever notice how anything that makes your orange deity look bad is a hoax or fake news? I mean once or twice maybe, but every damn time? GMAB. You can't seriously be this slow on the uptake, I've read your posts and you are not illiterate or stupid that I can see, so why would you continually buy into this garbage excuse? Hoax my ass.

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I find it interesting that no one has disputed the numbers. Course, it would be hard to dispute.


Yeah, 130,000 dead people and counting is hard to dispute.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
So, you think the Afgans only killed because of some bounty? Seriously?


Then why do you think we put a bounty on terrorists? Only kill them because of bounties? Can you explain what that has to do with Russians placing bounties on American troops?

Only in Trumplandia.


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Spies and commandos warned months ago of Russian bounties on U.S. troops

https://www.startribune.com/spies-and-co...oops/571533422/

So the threat was credible enough to warn those in harms way but now it's "a hoax"? Just like Covid 19 was a hoax.

And people keep believing his BS.


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'dem hoaxes' ~ smh

Oh yes, all those hoaxes... Ever notice how anything that makes your orange deity look bad is a hoax or fake news? I mean once or twice maybe, but every damn time? GMAB. You can't seriously be this slow on the uptake, I've read your posts and you are not illiterate or stupid that I can see, so why would you continually buy into this garbage excuse? Hoax my ass.


Mostly because I'm not illiterate or stupid. The entire Russia hoax from beginning to end was a hoax and partisan coup attempt. 3 years of hearing about "mountains of evidence", "we got him now" proclamations, and all the secret testimony was, "I have no knowledge of that". Hoax.

I read the left and right sides, use different sources, and make up my own mind.


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Mostly because I'm not illiterate or stupid.


Well it's obvious you can read or write however the rest of that may be up for debate and might even deserve its own thread. wink

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The entire Russia hoax from beginning to end was a hoax and partisan coup attempt. 3 years of hearing about "mountains of evidence", "we got him now" proclamations, and all the secret testimony was, "I have no knowledge of that". Hoax.


Yet many of Trump's cronies and even some Russians were convicted and witnesses were blocked from testifying. Your definition of hoax seems quite puzzling.

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I read the left and right sides, use different sources, and make up my own mind.


Yet it seems to always heavily slant in one direction no matter the evidence to the contrary.


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If there is even a little truth to this, then Trump once again has handled it like a dunce.

Anything he perceives as negative towards him is instantly a Democratic Hoax.



Considering all the other dem hoaxes, you're actually surprised by that?


You mean the ones the idiot in the white house and his minions call Dem Hoaxs?

You mean like the Corona Virus? That Dem Hoax?


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No, he means the hoax where all those people were convicted and Trump kept stopping witnesses with first hand knowledge from testifying. Then they yell, "Yeah, but you didn't have first hand witnesses!"

That hoax.


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No, he means the hoax where all those people were convicted and Trump kept stopping witnesses with first hand knowledge from testifying. Then they yell, "Yeah, but you didn't have first hand witnesses!"

That hoax.


Oh,, That hoax...almost forgot about that one.


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The real gem here is you guys falling for another hoax!

Lets see now...

There was Collusion.
Then The Steele Dossier.
Then Ukraine.
Now this.

Hook, Line and Sinker! rofl


You forgot to mention the fake Coronavirus and the fake 120,000 and counting death toll.


Not to belittle or anything of the sort, covid, but I think the u.s. is now at about 130,000 dead. Out of 320,000,000 million.

Maybe I'm not doing the math right, but I think that comes out to about a tenth of a percent.

Correct me if I'm wrong on that - and maybe I am wrong?


Seeing that were are at 2.7 million confirmed cases, and 130,000 deaths, that's a 4.81% mortality rate. Granted there have been more cases than confirmed cases, but you don't ignore just because you personally haven't had it yet. At the current rate, if everyone in the US were to get it, you'd have 15.5 million dead.

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The death toll tally of the trump admin.........more American’s dead than WW1, desert storm, and the Afghanistan war combined. trump doesn’t care about American lives or American soldiers. The POS only cares about himself. Pfft trump and his supporters.


Your head is just exploding. You're so dramatic, I love it. rofl


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The death toll tally of the trump admin.........more American’s dead than WW1, desert storm, and the Afghanistan war combined. trump doesn’t care about American lives or American soldiers. The POS only cares about himself. Pfft trump and his supporters.


Your head is just exploding. You're so dramatic, I love it. rofl


Lol .You would know....this is all trump supporters have now. They....Can’t defend his loyalty to Putin. Can’t defend his actions are costing American lives here and abroad. Can’t defend his racism. Can’t defend his misogyny. Can’t defend his cowardice. This is all they have. Pffft trump supporters.


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