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Kanye West declares he will run for US president in 2020:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/j...esident-in-2020


FINALLY!


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The Lincoln Project: There They Go Again
The Me-Too Republicans disguised as Never Trumpers.



by Jeffrey Lord


December 20, 2019



You can’t make it up.

A group of “Republicans” has banded together, laughably calling themselves “The Lincoln Project.”

I have a better name for what they are about: The Me-Too Project. And to borrow from their own description, they are, like all Me-Tooers, bogus prophets out to replace conservatism with an empty faith.

The headline in their New York Times op-ed (the Washington Post must have been busy that day) was this:

We Are Republicans, and We Want Trump Defeated

The president and his enablers have replaced conservatism with an empty faith led by a bogus prophet.

The four people behind this, all Never Trumpers, are George T. Conway III, Steve Schmidt, John Weaver, and Rick Wilson. Of note: Schmidt is not a Republican. He went out of his way in June 2018 to tweet that he was leaving the GOP. The Washington Post headlined the story this way:

‘Today I renounce my membership’: Longtime GOP strategist Steve Schmidt announces he’s leaving the party

John Weaver is a similar type. In 2015, National Review noted this of Weaver, then an adviser to Ohio Gov. John Kasich’s soon-to-fail campaign for the GOP presidential nomination:

During the presidency of George W. Bush, Weaver broke with the Republican party and spent several years working for Democrats. He came back when McCain mounted another bid for the presidency in 2007.

A 2008 Politico story says this of Weaver:

In 2002, Weaver left the Republican Party, worked for Democratic candidates, and then returned to McCain’s side shortly afterward.

Got that? Both Schmidt and Weaver have a history of abandoning the GOP. They are, in fact, hardly Lincoln or Reagan conservatives.

Among other things, these Me-Tooers of the Lincoln Project say,

Patriotism and the survival of our nation in the face of the crimes, corruption and corrosive nature of Donald Trump are a higher calling than mere politics. As Americans, we must stem the damage he and his followers are doing to the rule of law, the Constitution and the American character.

For those who came in late, a few points.

Back there in the mists of time — 2008 and in the middle of the Obama–McCain campaign — my friend, the now-departed and much-missed Tony Blankley, wrote this piece for RealClearPolitics. It was titled,

The Birth of the Me-Too Conservative

Tony was a conservative’s conservative whom I had met when we were both young congressional aides. Like me, he was a Reagan conservative, later gaining fame as Speaker Newt Gingrich’s press secretary and the editorial page editor for the Washington Times. In that RealClearPolitics column, Tony said this:

With the rise to enduring power of President Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal in 1933, a new type of Republican emerged in reaction to FDR’s attractive and overawing power: the me-too Republican. Until the election of President Reagan five decades later, these me-too Republicans supported, rather than opposed, Democratic Party policies but claimed they would administer them better. Of course, this led to a half-century of Democratic dominance of American government and politics.

Tony lasered in on all the disdain coming from self-described conservative pundits of the day towards McCain’s Reagan-style conservative running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. He said,

Of course, they are not quite saying they are giving up conservatism for whatever it is Obama would bring. They are initially focusing on style or, in the newly arrived cliché, temperament — a term made famous, interestingly, to describe FDR as possessing a second-class intellect but a first-class temperament.

Predicting a defeat for McCain (one of whose top campaign lieutenants was, yes, the aforementioned Steve Schmidt, with the aforementioned John Weaver a one-time McCain adviser), Tony went on to say of the new conservative movement that would be built on the ashes of McCain’s campaign:

The new movement will be plain-spoken and socially networked up from the Interneted streets, suburbs and small towns of America. It certainly will not listen very attentively to those conservatives who idolatrize Obama and collaborate in heralding his arrival. They may call their commentary “honesty.” I would call it — at the minimum — blindness.

The new conservative movement will be facing a political opponent that will reveal itself soon to be both multiculturalist and Eurosocialist. We will be engaged in a struggle to the political death for the soul of the country. As I did at the beginning of and throughout the Buckley/Goldwater/Reagan/Gingrich conservative movement, I will try to lend my hand. I certainly will do what I can to make it a big-tent conservative movement. But just as it does in every great cause, one question has to be answered correctly: Whose side are you on, comrade?”

In short, Tony was presciently predicting exactly what Steve Schmidt, John Weaver, and his fellow me-too Republicans of the Lincoln Project now snarlingly call “Trumpism.”

The hard fact of the political matter is that me-tooism has been a disaster for the Republican Party, whether the nominee was named McCain, Romney, or, reaching all the way back to its birth, two-time GOP nominee New York Gov. Thomas E. Dewey.

It is, as Schmidt and Weaver demonstrated with McCain (and so many others have demonstrated over the decades), a stone-cold loser. And, more to the point, it should be a loser.

All the way back there in 1975, Ronald Reagan knew exactly what the Lincoln Project was about without living to see it. Why? Because he had seen so many me-too Republicans in his lifetime. Speaking to the then-young Conservative Political Action Conference — CPAC — Reagan said this:

I don’t know about you, but I am impatient with those Republicans who after the last election rushed into print saying, “We must broaden the base of our party” — when what they meant was to fuzz up and blur even more the differences between ourselves and our opponents.

It was a feeling that there was not a sufficient difference now between the parties that kept a majority of the voters away from the polls. When have we ever advocated a closed-door policy? Who has ever been barred from participating?

Our people look for a cause to believe in. Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?

And right there is the exact description of today’s Lincoln Project. Donald Trump may be their excuse of the moment, but as their backgrounds illustrate, the project founders, like their fellow me-too Never Trumpers, are really out to, as Reagan said, “fuzz up and blur even more the differences between ourselves and our opponents.”

The fact of the matter is that Donald Trump won the Republican nomination and the presidency precisely because, like Reagan, he raised the “banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors,” which made it “unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people.”

In other words, the Lincoln Project is nothing more than the latest Me-Too Republican Project disguised as a Trump opponent.

As Ronald Reagan might say: There they go again.


https://spectator.org/the-lincoln-project-there-they-go-again/

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I'd like to care, but I don't.

I have seen and read enough on here from the lib's and what they think of me, mostly because I voted for trump over hillary.


I've read such vitriol towards anyone that disagrees with them, it's pathetic. I won't name any names, as they know who they are, as do all other posters.

I don't care anymore............and when ....well, I've heard all the b.s. "you need to unite" with us.

Your opinion doesn't matter, unless you agree with us. Then, your opinion matters.

Name calling? There are a few posters on here that need to take a deep look in a mirror.

We've got several "know it all's" that make a statement in 1 thread, then change their attitude in a different thread. I don't think they even know they do it.

We've got the so called 'uber educated' that tell people their opinions don't matter, only HIS matter.

We've got the people that blame trump for everything.

we've got the people that say "quit calling names....." as they, in every post, belittle anyone that disagrees with them, and trash trump any chance they get by calling him orange, obese, on and on and on. They ignore biden's shortcomings, his erratic behavior, his ignorance.

Yet, somehow I am a racist?????????


The name calling, the placing a stance on me, and others...........furthering the divide. When they got nothing, they go for the buzzwords in a failed attempt at making them look better. They sink below the current line, and attempt to justify it. Pathetic.

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Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20
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Kanye West declares he will run for US president in 2020:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/j...esident-in-2020


With a MAGA hat on. rofl He’ll have the opposite effect that trump wants from him. He’ll take the few black votes trump would have gotten, away.from him.


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Sensible Republicans and Independents really bother you guys don't they?


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How about all the kings men?

Mantis, McMaster, Kelly, Cohen, Tillerson, Sessions, Bolton.


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Read Bolton's book.


Let's see you spin that. Then when Mary Trump's book comes out spin that one too.

These are people with direct first hand looks at what kind of person and intellect this guy is.

Even though it is obvious. All you have to do is listen to "all the best people" he hired. Then read how he turns on them after they reveal what he is really about.

But no. You and the crew at fox an other mouth organs of trump will come back with all the regular crap. Like the virus is 99% harmless. And it will just disappear.

Tell that to the families of 130k Americans.

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Let's get this out of the way,, I'm one of them that doesn't understand how anyone can support a Hitler/Putin wannabe dictator.

You may feel free to name me anytime you want. I'm very proud that I'm not crazy enough to support Trump


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Trump declares US in 'culture war,' calls flying Confederate flag 'freedom of speech'

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-declares-us-culture-war-calls-flying-confederate-193500017.html

straight out the horses mouth. its us vs them in MAGA land.

this guy has made it absolutely clear he isnt the POTUS, but the president of the confederate states. thats his base.

well, culture war it is.


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Trump declares US in 'culture war,' calls flying Confederate flag 'freedom of speech'

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-declares-us-culture-war-calls-flying-confederate-193500017.html

straight out the horses mouth. its us vs them in MAGA land.

this guy has made it absolutely clear he isnt the POTUS, but the president of the confederate states. thats his base.

well, culture war it is.


rofl His wartime potus status isn’t a glaring success is it? Arm up my brothers with love. Love trumps trump. Easy win.


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Trump claims ‘nobody ever heard’ Abraham Lincoln was a Republican until he pointed it out

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-claims-nobody-ever-heard-112447672.html

OMG, BREAKING NEWS. LINCOLN WAS A REPUBLICAN!!!


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So I'm guessing he paid kids in his high school classes to take his American History exams for him, too?

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Trump claims ‘nobody ever heard’ Abraham Lincoln was a Republican until he pointed it out

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-claims-nobody-ever-heard-112447672.html

OMG, BREAKING NEWS. LINCOLN WAS A REPUBLICAN!!!


Literally, I LOL!


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Rudy Giuliani Just Destroyed Trump's Excuse For Not Releasing Tax Returns

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/rudy-giuliani-trump-taxes-george-soros-114032497.html

“All these tax returns have been by and large — maybe not the last one — but all of them have been audited, all of them have either been passed on or settled,” Giuliani told Maria Bartiromo on Fox News.

“There should be some finality in tax returns,” Giuliani added. “We get audited, we make a deal, we pay the government, you don’t come after me forever for that.”

Just days earlier, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany insisted that ongoing audits were the reason Trump was not releasing any of his tax returns.

“The media’s been asking this question for four years, and for four years, the president has said the same thing: His taxes are under audit, and when they’re no longer under audit, he will release them,” said an annoyed McEnany.

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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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Let's get this out of the way,, I'm one of them that doesn't understand how anyone can support a Hitler/Putin wannabe dictator.

You may feel free to name me anytime you want. I'm very proud that I'm not crazy enough to support Trump


If you consider our president a dictator you've got A LOT to learn about world history. I've never seen a wannabe dictator that supports the 2nd amendment. You walked right into that one.


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Trump's reelection operation hires 1,500 field staffers

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-reelection-operation-hires-1-092447760.html

The goal is to turn out votes on behalf of Republicans up and down the ticket this fall. The Trump team says it is on pace to eclipse the 2.2 million volunteer total that helped reelect President Barack Obama in 2012.

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Lol Obama living rent free in MAGA hatter’s heads.


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Lol Obama living rent free in MAGA hatter’s heads.



Plenty of room for him to roam around...


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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Let's get this out of the way,, I'm one of them that doesn't understand how anyone can support a Hitler/Putin wannabe dictator.

You may feel free to name me anytime you want. I'm very proud that I'm not crazy enough to support Trump


If you consider our president a dictator you've got A LOT to learn about world history. I've never seen a wannabe dictator that supports the 2nd amendment. You walked right into that one.


Trump is a bigot and a fascist, there is no doubt left on those facts. And he loves him some dictators and strongmen, like a fawning teenager at an Elvis concert in the fifties. He probably gave Putin his whitey tighties.

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Trump's reelection operation hires 1,500 field staffers

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-reelection-operation-hires-1-092447760.html

The goal is to turn out votes on behalf of Republicans up and down the ticket this fall. The Trump team says it is on pace to eclipse the 2.2 million volunteer total that helped reelect President Barack Obama in 2012.

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Lol Obama living rent free in MAGA hatter’s heads.


Sounds like we'll need at least 2.2 million cells in our ANTIFA run liberal re-education camps in 2021. We will need to win hearts and minds. I call Soros to make it happen. wink

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Here is their stable genius. Has attacked our allies but is in love with Kim.


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j/c:

While reading through this forum, I don't see too many comments from Biden on certain issues. Does anyone know if he has addressed any of the following topics?

--Where does Biden stand on Wealth Distribution? Does he believe in giving every person a guaranteed income w/no work restrictions?

--Where does Biden stand on the recent demands of BLM?

--What's Biden's opinion on defunding the police?

--What are Biden's plans in regards to taxing the middle class and upper middle class workers?

--Has Biden addressed Standardized testing in our schools?

--What is Biden's position on repaying student loans?

These answers might be out there. But, if someone could help me--and others--out by putting the answers all here in one place, I would most certainly appreciate it.

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I haven't had an opportunity to look at Biden's stance on these issues but I did hear him say that he is against defunding the police - despite what the Trump adds say.

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I was just doing some research and I saw the Biden-Sanders Joint Task Force Proposals. I don't think Biden has actually approved of these proposals yet, but I did see that they were not in favor of defunding the police. So, that's good...in my opinion.

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Bernie ,AOC ,Liz Warren will all be in his cabinet with that crew the police are defunded in a heartbeat ...hand writing on the wall libs and you know it

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Please stop.

I'm looking to be educated, not fed some hate-spiel.

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While reading through this forum, I don't see too many comments from Biden on certain issues. Does anyone know if he has addressed any of the following topics?

--Where does Biden stand on Wealth Distribution? Does he believe in giving every person a guaranteed income w/no work restrictions? No to UBI

--Where does Biden stand on the recent demands of BLM? He wants police and prison reform, does not want defunding.

--What's Biden's opinion on defunding the police? Does not want that.

--What are Biden's plans in regards to taxing the middle class and upper middle class workers? No plan or info that I'm aware of, says tax cuts for rich were uncalled for.

--Has Biden addressed Standardized testing in our schools? Not that I'm aware of.

--What is Biden's position on repaying student loans? He's on the side of relief, never heard a plan.

These answers might be out there. But, if someone could help me--and others--out by putting the answers all here in one place, I would most certainly appreciate it.


Try lookin here: https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/

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One question.

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--Where does Biden stand on the recent demands of BLM?

He wants police and prison reform, does not want defunding.


I was asking more about reparations, cops not being permitted to pull cars over who had black drivers, etc. I think you know how I feel about reparations, but not allowing them to stop black drivers is pretty controversial. I get that a lot of bad things happen in those situations, but what if a car is stolen? Or a person is weaving all over the road or going in the wrong direction on the interstate? Send them a ticket in the mail? I won't go into all the demands, but some are "out there."

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Biden doesn't believe in reparations that I know of, at least in the form of money to individuals. BUT I'm pretty sure he is in the camp on funding programs for minority communities, minority owned businesses, higher education, extra for k-12 schools, etc. to help offset the generational wealth disparity they have to deal with (overcome) to compete. Not sure how dedicated he is to anything though. Don't trust him based on the past but do think his heart is in the right place and think he truly wants to have a progressive FDR-like presidency. Just don't expect him to take wall street, big corps, or uber rich to the woodshed with taxes.

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Biden doesn't believe in reparations that I know of, at least in the form of money to individuals. BUT I'm pretty sure he is in the camp on funding programs for minority communities, minority owned businesses, higher education, extra for k-12 schools, etc. to help offset the generational wealth disparity they have to deal with (overcome) to compete.


That would be awesome! I would highly approve of those measures. Giving handouts only hurts both sides. Providing opportunities to the oppressed is highly intelligent and will help both sides.

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