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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I was wondering because it is getting pretty bad here. Hope your entire family stays safe, bro.



Just a update. It isn't yet 4AM and it is 78. Going to be a hot one today.


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Just a update. It isn't yet 4AM and it is 78. Going to be a hot one today.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I was wondering because it is getting pretty bad here. Hope your entire family stays safe, bro.


Thanks ... same to U and yours ...

Your kids having any “issues” still or are they back to “normal” ...

Honestly bro ... when my brother calls me now i get a pit in my stomach ... hoping its not “the call” ...




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I know what you mean.

My kids are doing great. They have not complained about any residual effects of having the virus. I don't know if that is because there are different strands of the virus or if it just effects different people in various degrees?

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Someone on another site made a point about British citizens complying with the blackout in WWII, and not refusing to turn off their lights because it's their right to have them on.....and whether or not this compares to the mask issue today.


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Interesting...

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A group of mask-wearing citizens, Locust Avenue, California, during the flu pandemic of 1918.
A group of mask-wearing citizens, Locust Avenue, California, during the flu pandemic of 1918. Photograph: Raymond Coyne/Courtesy of Lucretia Little History Room, Mill Valley Public Library. © The Annual Dipsea Race.

This picture was taken in California in 1918, during the second wave of the Spanish flu pandemic that killed more than 50 million people around the world. In an effort to curb the spread of the disease, some states quarantined citizens; others made the wearing of face masks mandatory, at the same time as shutting down “all places of amusement”. According to a law passed in San Francisco in October of that year, on the day that state-wide infections passed 50,000, anyone seen not wearing a gauze face covering was subject to fines that ranged from $5 to $100 and the possibility of 10 days’ imprisonment.

Official advice insisted: “Wear a mask and save your life! A mask is 99% proof against influenza”. This was supported by advertising campaigns and jingles: “Obey the laws and wear the gauze. Protect your jaws from septic paws.” The people in this photograph were either a part of that campaign, or – carrying a sign reading: “Wear a mask or go to jail” – particularly keen supporters of it.

The order appeared to work in “flattening the curve” of infection in San Francisco; other American states took up the practice, which was also promoted across the Atlantic in Paris and in Manchester. Supply quickly became an issue, so in America churches and community groups organised mass mask-making sessions. When the order was lifted at noon on the last day of November, a blaring whistle sounded and, the San Francisco Chronicle noted, people threw off their masks leaving “the sidewalks and runnels strewn with the relics of a tortuous month”.

The relaxation of the law proved premature. As the death toll rose again in a third wave of the disease – and despite the protests of the newly formed Anti-Mask League – mandatory mask-wearing was reintroduced for another six weeks at the beginning of the following year.

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Thanks for the reply .. u too Gm ... Pit has become someone who has 24 posts just belittling and attacking and not posting any relevant info so I quit reading him awhile ago ... and that’s a shame as he knows his football and that’s becoming extinct around here ...

I understand what your saying and it makes sense ... It just doesn’t seem with the #’s we’re seeing in a handful of states can’t simply be from folks not wearing masks indoors ... and I’m not sure why there closing beaches if that’s what the science says ...

I guess the major spikes could be from gyms and bars in the states spiking now ... its not from hair salons or restaurants as there’s plenty of states not spiking with those entities open ...

I wear mine and think folks that don’t are selfish ... but if they help so much why aren’t places like where I am right now not spiking ... if 50% of the people are wearing them in grocery stores, restaurants or bars that’s a lot ... yet we’re in fine shape Numbers wise ...

I know 7 people that caught it and 6 of them followed all the rules and wore masks everywhere ..

Thanks again for the replies ... It seems I’m looking for answers we don’t yet have ...


The masks must also be worn outside if your in a crowd. Masks are just part of the problem. People are also not social distancing, not hand washing, not sanitizing, cross contaminating every freaking thing in site.

Coronavirus in Ohio Friday update: 1,679 new cases reported, largest one-day increase

Coronavirus in Ohio: 1,542 cases, 20 deaths reported Saturday

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I am afraid we are headed to another shutdown. Even longer than before. It's the only way to stop the spread. Too many selfish, me first, stupid people in this country.


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Agreed +1. If everyone did what they were suppose to do the 1st time we would be in much better shape now. Also, there was some poor leadership on both sides which didn't help. Things should not have gotten this bad. JMO

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Ladies and gentleman, the same region that brought you segregation, a denial of science, and donald rump. I give you no masks.

Not only are you an anchor to progression, you are a danger to the health of Americans. You are the terrorists.

You don’t deserve to fly our flag, a confederate one fits your ideology a bit better.




I think if you do a little looking you will find it spiking everywhere, even Colorado.


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My apologies to the board. I saw a short blurb on TV just before posting what I thought was encouraging as presented. This new info I had not heard, read, or seen. Post was in good faith, just sorry the news isn't panning out as well as I hoped. We have folks in the family who need it.


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Glad to hear the kids seem to have had a full recovery ... thumbsup

Your daughter do commercial or residential or both ... if she does residential I’ll send her any business we have ...




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They do both residential and commercial. Shoot me a text and I'll give you the company name and phone number. They bought a franchise from a national chain, so they have a lot of support behind them.

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We had a young man in our church test positive Tuesday, he is the first one that I have known that contracted COVID19, he is doing fine and we have shut the doors until August 9th while this runs its course through our people, hopefully no one else will be effected, meantime I am preaching Sundays and Thursdays online, prayers for our church would be nice and appreciated ... God Bless thumbsup


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Well, my son's doing much better. He was off quarantine as of yesterday. He looked and sounded good. He came over and stayed outside. We kept our distance. He said he's still a little short of breath and has been hitting his inhaler occasionally, but no other symptoms. In this heat, I'm short of breath, too lol. He felt well enough to borrow my truck. Thanks for the prayers, everyone.


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A Kentucky couple refused to sign self-quarantine papers after testing positive for coronavirus. Now they have to wear ankle monitors.
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A married couple in Hardin County, Kentucky was ordered to wear ankle monitors after refusing to sign the "Self-isolation and Controlled Movement Agreed Order," CBS Affiliate WKYT reported.
The wife, Elisabeth Linscott, told NBC affiliate WAVE that while the couple did not agree to sign the papers, they were not refusing to self-quarantine.

In April, four or more people in Louisville, Kentucky were also ordered to wear ankle monitors after disobeying guidelines to self-quarantine.
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A married couple in Hardin County, Kentucky was ordered to wear ankle monitors after refusing to sign the "Self-isolation and Controlled Movement Agreed Order," CBS Affiliate WKYT reported.

Elisabeth Linscott told NBC affiliate WAVE that she had tested for coronavirus on Saturday, July 11, because she was planning to visit family members in Michigan. She was asymptomatic but tested positive, WAVE reported.

After Linscott tested positive for coronavirus she told the news channel that she refused to meet the health department's request that she signs documents that restricted her from traveling without permission. She said that although the couple did not agree to sign the papers, they were not refusing to self-quarantine.

"My part was if I have to go to the ER, if I have to go to the hospital, I'm not going to wait to get the approval to go," Linscott told WAVE. She added in the interview that the Director of the Public Health Department "told the judge" that "I was refusing to self-quarantine," but that "that was not the case at all."


A few days after she refused to sign the documents, Linscott told WAVE that Linscott said the Hardin County Sheriff's Department arrived at her door. WAVE reported the couple was mandated to wear ankle monitors that would notify law enforcement if they travel beyond 200 feet.

The husband, Isaiah Linscott, who was wearing a "Make America Great Again" cap in the interview, said he opened the door to find around eight people waiting to speak with his family. "I'm like what the heck's going on?" Linscott told WAVE.

The couple says they will get an attorney, WAVE reported.

Kentucky has taken severe measures to slow the spread of the coronavirus since April when judges ordered a number of residents who tested positive to wear GPS monitors. Four or more people in Louisville, Kentucky were ordered in April to wear ankle monitors after disobeying guidelines to self-quarantine.

https://www.insider.com/couple-who-refused-to-self-quarantine-papers-wear-ankle-monitors-2020-7

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Good. I'd just make that mandatory. People can walk to the mailbox. Maybe walk a few houses down each side of the house to get some exercise.


Now in doing this, the state needs to provide some weekly grocery delivery in the event these people need some supplies. Not pay for the food or whatever, just provide delivery. Call them when you set it at the door.


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I am a bit of an oddity these days. I know all of my neighbors by name. I say hello tp them if I see them out .... talk to some of them regularly ... and even sometimes sit out front so I can say hello to people walking by. I have talked with a few such people ... from a distance, oif course, and some live alone ..... and have no one to talk to. I have had hour long conversations with some.

It saddens me to read about how so many people have no idea what their neighbors' names are ..... let alone have any real conversations with them. I could never live like that.


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
I am a bit of an oddity these days. I know all of my neighbors by name. I say hello tp them if I see them out .... talk to some of them regularly ... and even sometimes sit out front so I can say hello to people walking by. I have talked with a few such people ... from a distance, oif course, and some live alone ..... and have no one to talk to. I have had hour long conversations with some.

It saddens me to read about how so many people have no idea what their neighbors' names are ..... let alone have any real conversations with them. I could never live like that.


Eh, if knowing your neighbors makes you an oddity, I'm an oddity right with you.

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It's amazing how many people have no idea who is licing next door to them .... and never take the time, or make the effort to meet them. I know most of my neighbors by name.

I have neighbors who moved in across the street down a couple of houses, and haven't had a chance to meet them. (because of the COVID situation) I will do so as soon as it is reasonable to do so.


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Walking a dog is a good way to meet neighbors. And get exercise.


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
I am a bit of an oddity these days. I know all of my neighbors by name. I say hello tp them if I see them out .... talk to some of them regularly ... and even sometimes sit out front so I can say hello to people walking by. I have talked with a few such people ... from a distance, oif course, and some live alone ..... and have no one to talk to. I have had hour long conversations with some.

It saddens me to read about how so many people have no idea what their neighbors' names are ..... let alone have any real conversations with them. I could never live like that.




I agree. I know my neighbors. I have a big front deck, but it is a bit hot in the summer, like too hot when it is 96 like today. Must be 125 up there. In the evenings Pat and I set up lawn chairs at the end of the garage, in the shade. I have a nice fan in there, turn that on, the radio and it is good enough. We wave and talk to everybody who walks by, neighbors or not.

Some we know by name, some just by face, but we know them. That is how you build community. It's a sad world if we stop talking to each other.

It reminds me of a old neighbor, Mr. Ehrbar. He was maybe 70 at the time. I was 8 or so. My parents wondered where I was one night. Howard, that was his name hollered to my parents I was with him. He would bring me home now, but we were just listening to the Indians game. Gene Bearden was pitching. He would walk me over after the game if it was OK.

That was the start of a 6-7 year friendship before Howard passed away. He was always smoking a cigar. His wife would always bring me out a Coke at some point. Maybe 2 if it was a hot night.


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Well, my son's doing much better. He was off quarantine as of yesterday. He looked and sounded good. He came over and stayed outside. We kept our distance. He said he's still a little short of breath and has been hitting his inhaler occasionally, but no other symptoms. In this heat, I'm short of breath, too lol. He felt well enough to borrow my truck. Thanks for the prayers, everyone.


Awesome. Thanks for the update.

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I've got a really dumb question but I have yet found a answer.
My neighbor practices the 6 foot rule when him
And I converse weekly. And I respect it and all
Is good.
But why is when his children come over with
Their kids it's ok not to be 6 foot apart ?
It's like business as usual

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I've got a really dumb question but I have yet found a answer.
My neighbor practices the 6 foot rule when him
And I converse weekly. And I respect it and all
Is good.
But why is when his children come over with
Their kids it's ok not to be 6 foot apart ?
It's like business as usual


You had to ask? Parents are responsible for teaching their children social distancing guidelines.


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What blows my mind is how many parents are allowing their kids to remain maskless.

Amendment: Here in Richland County and the city of Lexington in SC, masks are mandatory. But, it's wild how many parents allow their children to take off their masks.

I hate to be judgemental, but if I had a young child, he/she would not be accompanying me on shopping trips.

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My sister in law has tested negative for her 2 tests, so she can go back to work. my brother is still waiting for the results from his 1st test.


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I just found it amusing if it's non family the
6 foot guideline is enforced.

But if family comes over. It's not.

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Sorry, I misread your post. I thought they were bringing the kids to your house. But still, they shouldn't be bringing kids over to potentially infect the grandparents.


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Actually, it could be as innocent as he knows where his kids and grandchildren have been, and they know where he's been, and it's safe. He doesn't know where you've been. And if your recent posts are any indication, he's being smart.

We have this situation with my parents. I talk to them daily, and every week or so I take the kids over. There's no need to social distance. My kids don't go out and my parents don't go out.


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I just found it amusing if it's non family the
6 foot guideline is enforced.

But if family comes over. It's not.


So two different questions really.

1, immediate family living in the same household
In reality, they should wear a mask and distance. I have seen it spread through multiple households rather quickly. But in all practicality this really isn't possible. So the unfortunate reality is that if someone in the household gets it, more likely than not, the rest of the household will as well.

2, the grandkids/grandparents.
The grandparent should really stay at home
I had a patient recently whose sister-in-laws 5 year old had it and they didn't tell anyone. The grandparents came over to visit then took care of my patient's kid. I end up taking care of her in the hospital, her husband was also in the hospital at the same time and both grandparents were in a neighboring hospital.

When they say family, they really are referring to scenario 1. Maybe they were not clear enough in their verbiage. The fact of the matter is that grandparents love their grandkids so much that they are willing to put their lives at risk to hug their grandkids. The kids/parents are either oblivious to the risk or they think that making this exception is giving the grandparents/kids what they need when what they really need is a little discipline to keep their distance.


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That's the way we are.... I have no desire to have my kids wear a mask... so they basically don't go to any store unless we're eating at a local restaurant... we go to two restaurants that are within 2 min of the house with my boys... both we can eat outside and typically away from everyone...

other than that... my boys have been to CVS three times (again within 2 min of the house) but no other stores... my wife and I find a time that one of us will be home to stay with them... no need for both us to go or the boys....

I don't know if masking helps or not but we wear it when out... I know that if I get exposed to someone with Covid-19 the first thing my work will ask is if I had a mask on... I had to be quarantined once due to a neighbor being positive and we had her over for wine one night....I'd prefer to not have to work from home again... too hard...


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I don't think the distance from the house makes any difference.

1 minute, 1 hour, how does that change anything?


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
It's amazing how many people have no idea who is licing next door to them .... and never take the time, or make the effort to meet them. I know most of my neighbors by name.

I have neighbors who moved in across the street down a couple of houses, and haven't had a chance to meet them. (because of the COVID situation) I will do so as soon as it is reasonable to do so.



I know every neighbor within 3 houses of me well, we have a holiday party every year, often chat int he driveways, etc. We also know quite a few others in our subdivision, just from chatting while they are out walking around.

Our direct neighbors even have a key to our house, and we have theirs, just for emergencies.


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GC worldometers on cases update, that site,

Percentage that die from Corona is my question,

There's a ton of colums but colum 1 and 3 by state are total cases, and total deaths, so real simple

New Jersey is over 8%, 8.6% die in NJ of total cases,
New York is 7% +

Some states are 2, or even less than 2 % but Ohio Pennsylvania, and Indiana are around 4+ to 5+ percent and Michigan and Illinois are around 7% also.

So either the cases and deaths numbers are incorrect or people who say there's less than 1% of people dying of the people who catch this thing, are incorrect.

Corona cases update... World o meters is one of the top search results.

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The folks saying less than one percent seem to be the same ones with their fingers in their ears saying "What corona" it doesn't exist or only kills 80 year olds.


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The folks saying less than one percent seem to be the same ones with their fingers in their ears saying "What corona" it doesn't exist or only kills 80 year olds.


Actually, I think those saying less than 1 percent are taking total deaths, and dividing by total population - be that state pop., country pop., or world population.

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Here I just thought they were talking out of their ass.


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Here's what is actually being said.

‘99 Percent’ of Virus Cases Are ‘Totally Harmless’

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/05/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-factcheck.html

Trump claims 99% of US Covid-19 cases are 'totally harmless' as infections surge

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/j...nfections-surge


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