DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum David Njoku requests trade

I understand the thinking, but no, I try to trade him. I would need more than a bag of footballs, and I wouldn't do the work.

Let them find a viable trade partner. Set some parameters, like no in division trade unless a 3rd rounder is involved. Let them find the market. Give them a few positions you would consider in a player for player deal.

On second thought, screw the player for player. I think we already have a extra pick or two for next year. Maybe a 5th and 7th rounder. You can use those to trade up a few slots if "your guy" is on the board.

I would probably bite on a conditional 3rd. Depending on the draft, you can get a decent player there, or use it as significant ammo in a trade-up. For a guy that's clearly not in your future plans and is getting pushed down the pecking order for his positional group. Especially for a team that has an obvious need and where you're confident he'll get the targets. Dude has all the potential, and coaches have taken on far more questionable projects in the past. I don't think 4th-to-3rd type trade for Njoku is all that far-fetched.

I'm certainly not desperate to cave to his request. Dude has absolute zero leverage.

Personally I think a conditional 3rd is high for the guy, but hey, you never know? When it comes to leverage, we don't have all that much either. We have it over Joke, but not other teams.

Even a 5th can turn in to a 4th rounder. A 3rd and 5th can maybe get you back in to the bottom of the 2nd. I am not viewing a draft value chart, so whatever the combinations, it gives you the ability to move up.

Also, you never know how the draft pans out. You might have 12 guys you like in the 6th round. Just keep the picks and 1-2 of the guys you like are bound to be there. You can get good players in every round.

They may not be superstars, but you can find quality players who can help the team and maybe become starting quality.

Respectfully there's really no need to make a public statement until the fan base and media are vilifying you.

The way I view the value is this: You aren't likely to find a kid with his talent, athleticism, age, and upside after the 2nd round. If you wanted to draft a player like him, that's where you'd be looking, so that's where my asking price would be.

And, we have all the leverage... he's here and under contract. We don't have to give him away; if someone wants him, it's on them to pry him away.

I understand the reasoning. Somewhere teams are going to look at what he has done in the league thus far.

and the salesman redirects their view to how young he is, how coachable, and how much upside he has.


We got a 1st for Trent Richardson. We can land at least a 2nd for David Njoku.

I am not a twitter guy. Maybe he was getting blow back on his twitter account?

Only if we trade him to Jim "Quaalude King" Irsay and the Colts!

Or, maybe BOB and the Texans?

I'm not a Twitter guy either. But here's what I was talking about...

David Njoku Calls Out Browns Fans With Strong Message

Since requesting a trade, Cleveland Browns tight end David Njoku has been hearing it from the team’s fans on social media, so much so that the former first-round pick addressed it.

“Haha I love the hate it’s that 93 in the gas station for me,” Njoku wrote on Twitter on Wednesday.

Well, as one commenter put it, if you kicks the dawgs, they will bite. After an offseason where he seemed set on being apart of the future in Cleveland, Njoku fired his agent and quickly demanded a trade out of town.

“Browns TE David Njoku and his agent Drew Rosenhaus asked today for the team to trade him,” ESPN’s Adam Schefter said in a tweet. “The Browns told Njoku they would like to keep him, but Rosenhaus told them he’s intent on a trade. They want a trade before training camp.”

“It is in David’s best interest to find a new team at this time,” Rosenhaus told Schefter.

What most Browns fans seemed peeved by was the fact that Njoku addressed the competition he faced with the addition of Austin Hooper to the roster and he seemed game for it.

“Nahhhh man cmon I love competition,” Njoku wrote on Twitter in a now deleted tweet responding speculation that he would want a trade more than ever. “We’ll push each other and get better together.”

Njoku has also had good things to say about new Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski, but things must have changed during the team’s virtual offseason program.

“I’m really excited. He’s a guy who loves his tight ends,” Njoku said of Stefanski in April. “And we just got a new one, Austin Hooper, who was a big-time get. We are going to have a lot of fun this year.”

Njoku is seeking a bounce-back year after suffering a fractured wrist in Week 2 last season. He battled back into the lineup in Week 14, but dropped a ball that turned into an interception, leading him to be a healthy scratch the next two weeks. He suited up for the Browns final game of the season, but played just four snaps. In all, he had just five catches for 41 yards and one touchdown last season.

“It was pretty hectic last year for sure,” Njoku said on a Browns ‘Working From Home’ segment. “We’re not going to go into right now. That’s behind us. I’m just really excited for this upcoming year.”

https://heavy.com/sports/cleveland-browns/2020/07/browns-david-njoku-calls-out-trolls/

General comment...

For those thinking that NFL teams are going to pay a high price for "what might be" with Njoku, he now has an NFL track record. Potential means a lot in the draft, not so much when you have a track record that is proof that you never managed to reach anywhere close to that potential.

Yeah I get the whole "get value" but this team is primed to win now. I am not trading away a 1st round pick for pennies on the dollar because he is butthurt that we brought a veteran in at his position because he has not produced.

He wants to hold out, so be it, not a franchise player.

Njoku being a first round pick has nothing to do with his value.

Ryan Grigson is with us now .... isn't he?

I hope you are right.

Yes......dammit.

I'm sure there are at least a couple teams that are a single injury away from giving up a little too much for the likes of Njoku.

I think you missed the point.

So isTrent Richardson available? Kidding.

State the point again. This exchange seems to me to wobble. Njoku's feelings are a non-factor IMO. Peeved or not, happy or not, shut up and soldier, soldier. If not, sit.

This is too much of a production over this little success. And hang a silly price tag on him and go about your business of The Browns winning more games. Not sure he can dress out at his position if he can't manage his 'tude.

I agree there was no need for a comment but he made the comment. Their was intention in making the comment. Maybe I didn't get what you meant when you said fans don't undertand the difference between love for the fans and the city and the business of sport. I think most fans do understand, in politics his comment would be clearly labled spin.

j/c:

I saw the twitter post but not the subsequent comments from this board as a result. My take-- He was told (with my own edits of course)...

"No, we aren't trading you. We just picked up your option that gives us two years with you. We picked it up for a reason. We sincerely like you and your upside because of what you did in 2018 and your age. Hell, Hooper could down and we would need a replacement. Even if not the case, Stefanski loves his TEs. Just try to get better at blocking, ok?"

That seems plausible. It falls into the same category that I suggested. The trade is not going thru and damage needs to be mitigated. Seems pretty straight forward.

So what you guys are saying is there's a possibility the Browns manage to trade Njoku to the Browns for a 1st RD pick?

If we ever needed a guy like Sashi around to blow up a trade....

Or perhaps you are. In one statement it is talked about not giving a first rounder away for pennies on the dollar. In the next it is said he isn't a franchise player.

Value is determined by production, and to some degree projected future production. The fact Joke was a first rounder doesn't make him more valuable to other teams.

I concede the guy is still young and that could boost his value some. Purp pointed that out to me some posts back, but the fact we drafted him in the first round doesn't mean squat to other teams. It means something us. You like 1st round players to play like 1st round players. It just hasn't happened.

Wow, yall really in here splitting hairs. There is absolutely a perception to his value being a former 1st round pick. If you don't think that or see MANY former 1st round picks getting FAR MORE second chances than other guys, I don't know what to tell you.

j/c

I find it odd how stupid some fans think players are in terms of getting in trouble and saying the wrong things on one hand, then on the other hand seem to think they're wonderful marketing strategists.

Also j/c

Njoku is as young as some rookies this season. You're essentially getting a rookie with 3 years NFL experience when you're looking at Njoku. He was also injured and/or "benched" for most of one of those seasons. I have friends who tell me, trade him, he's done nothing and I have to laugh. His career is just getting started, it's not half over.

Njoku has also had the same poor coaching the rest of the team has had. I do think there are teams definitely interested in trading for him, however I think his worth to us is more than anything we'd get in any trade.

I think teams considering trading for him will look at what he's done with the opportunities he has had. Not the opportunities he didn't have.

I think we should trade all players who don't perform well in their first few years.

Makes sense.

It's odd how people say you can't evaluate a player until their third season and now you're saying we should wait what, 4, 5 or 6?

I'm saying if guys don't play well in their 1st, 2nd, or 3rd seasons, regardless of circumstances, we should jettison them.

I don't know if I would go that far. Maybe it's just semantics. I would say better and not so much well. Like I said, you could say that's just semantics. A WR should be able to run routes better and block better in year three. A QB should have better accuracy and be able to deal with the speed of the game better.

There are certainly other contributing factors that may not see those improvements equating in the W/L column. They may not all show up on a stat sheet. There are just certain things one should see elevate due to the competition and the speed of the game.

That may not mean that a player is a finished product by the end of year three. But there are certain traits and tendencies that should be making themselves obvious.

I feel you have to take in to consideration circumstance, but I don't totally disagree with you otherwise.

In any job most of us hold or held, we have/had to pick it up in a year or so.

I mean, come on. If you are a engineer, you are expected to be able to do the math. If a brick layer you are expected to lay a level row.

You don't want a brick layer being your engineer or your engineer being your brick layer. That is going to be a screwed up project.

I wasn't actually serious.

Trade him for a 4th RD pick.

No less than a 3rd or I keep him ...

That seems fair. Really hate this biz of negotiating in the media in public. But get something for him.

We don’t HAVE to do anything.

We control the situation, unless he sits out, but then he’d only be hurting himself.

Does anyone know if he showed up?