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I was more along the lines of restaurants and barber shops needed to be open,

But the NFL I see a point,
It's about person to person, skin vs skin, or clothing vs clothing contact, even in baseball it can be limited somewhat, and basketball? basketball they don't necessarily have to make physical contact every single possession,
but in football, the name of the game is you have to do way more contact than a high five or handshake, for just about all the positions, every single snap.

And I think there is a valid point that we don't know how bad that is,
Can players wash up and change clothes between every single snap?
every time they make a tackle, then on surface skin germs spread, and then, well over a game, all 53 times 2 groups of players germs could be so intermingled
that it's like a pitri dish.

They are saying don't touch your face, don't touch your eyes for a reason, and then you're supposed to lather soap for 20 long seconds, (which is about 3 times normal)
Because the lather helps to stop this spread.

Well the lather of soap that helps, is cleaning, skin, but NFL football, it's a giant skin surface and clothing surface intermingling of germs,

and there's already a problem with germs getting onto the turf itself, that's been around for a few years,

Think about just the ball, We can't handshake but, the Center, the Quarterback, the receiver, and a DB, and 2 or 3 referees can touch the ball, just on one incomplete pass play.

' No season. '

( I know I was totally on the other side of this, but though I didn't express it, a lot of that didn't include large crowd sports, but, after thinking, I almost think it would be better to allow 100% stadium filling, because people can wear masks and put up plexiglass,
but for the players, and full contact/ Even Walk Throughs

I haven't been going around, hand to shoulder grappling groups of two or three guys in demonstrating techniques, or for any reason, over the last 6 weeks, and I wouldn't want to start today.

My point was that the virus is more likely to spread off of the field. There is a much greater chance for infection during practice and in the facility than during the actual game.

So... if the NFL protocols don't work, we will likely learn that before the season even starts.

Good points. We should see in the first 14 days of camp how it spreads if at all. Hoping the NFL has a plan B.

Not sure what plan "B" would be, maybe just call it off?

You've really been pushing for no season.

Plan B would to quarantine the infected and hope it’s isolated. If it’s not.

plan “C”....closed for the season

I don't know that I am pushing for it. I am just not pushing for one despite the cost. I don't want to see players or players families get sick.

The players are young and strong. They will probably be good. The locker room staff, maybe not as much. The over weight coach, the wife, the child, the parent, maybe not as well?

Play the damn season.

So you don’t watch after entire teams kneel?

Nevermind.

j/c:

One thing the NFL has in its favor is that they can monitor MLB and the NBA.

I see that many of the MLB players aren't exactly practicing safe practices. This morning, I heard that 4 players on the Marlins tested positive. I think all the travel might make things worse.

The NBA is playing in one location and that should be an advantage. Fewer points of contact.

Either way, the NFL can watch and see what happens w/these two professional leagues before making their final decision.

“Risk yourself and your family for my entertainment!”

j/c:

I have been back-and-forth on whether the NFL plays this season or not. For a long time, I thought they would not. Recently, I thought they would play due to other leagues starting up and how many younger, healthy folks have been effected by the virus.

However, the news of the what is going on w/the Marlins is making me think that it's going to be tough for the NFL to play. The number of Marlins who tested positive is up to 14. They already postponed tonight's game. I doubt the Yankees will want to use the visitor's clubhouse in Philly. It's a mess.

Unlike the NBA, neither the MLB or the NFL play in a bubble. Traveling from city to city increases the risk of contacting and/or spreading the disease. That's the way a pandemic works.

What a horrible mess.

The NFL has the advantage of only traveling to one city per week. They have the major disadvantage of having a huge number of people that travel with the team.

Either way, it was futile. Starting the leagues back up, without a bubble, while the virus is running rampant was unwise. The other countries that started sports had the virus under control. We started our sports at its peak. Dumb.

Oh well. At least we got one weekend of baseball.

It's all about priorities I suppose.

Two more ..

CHANCE WARMACK
G, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS

Seahawks G Chance Warmack has taken the voluntary opt-out for the 2020 season.
Warmack signed in late March on a one-year contract after sitting out the 2019 season in order to replenish his health. The Seahawks likely won't look for a replacement after selecting G Damien Lewis in the third-round.

SOURCE: Mike Garafolo on Twitter
Jul 27, 2020, 4:16 PM ET

DE'ANTHONY THOMAS
WR, BALTIMORE RAVENS

Ravens WR/KR De'Anthony Thomas has voluntarily opted-out of the 2020 season.
Thomas split time between the Chiefs and Ravens last season, playing six games in Kansas City before suiting up for eight games in Baltimore. He returned 13 punts and 10 kicks for the Ravens, who re-signed him on a one-year contract back in March. The voluntary opt-out includes a stipend of $150,000.

SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
Jul 27, 2020, 4:04 PM ET

BRUCE ARIANS
C, TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS

In a conversation on the Buccaneers' plans for handling the coronavirus, coach Bruce Arians stated "the players, they’re going to all get sick, that’s for sure.”

“It’s just a matter of how sick they get,” Arians continued. "We’ve got to be careful." This season will be unlike any other. Positive cases will be confirmed, and it appears the NFL will attempt to power through them with a multi-week quarantine for impacted players and staff members - and a larger practice squad to pick replacements from. Arians is a three-time cancer survivor and took measures to aid his health even before this offseason, including riding a golf cart during practice and handing play calling responsibilities to Byron Leftwich. Arians, at 67 years old, is at higher risk than other coaches around the league. As is safeties coach Nick Rapone (64) and quarterbacks coach Clyde Christensen (64). “It’s the team that adapts and has the most discipline, they’re going to win,” Arians concluded. This level of honesty is appreciated, but also chilling.

SOURCE: Tampa Bay Times
Jul 27, 2020, 3:22 PM ET

It is chilling.

Bruce Arians makes the case for not having a season.

A few more ...


CALEB BRANTLEY
DL, WASHINGTON FOOTBALL TEAM

Washington DL Caleb Brantley is the first reported "high risk" opt-out player for the 2020 season.
Brantley will receive a $350,000 stipend with no offset language and a credited season. Brantley, a former sixth-round pick by the Browns, played in one game last season for Washington and re-signed for the team back in March.

SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
Jul 27, 2020, 6:17 PM ET

DAN VITALE
RB, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

Patriots FB Dan Vitale elected to opt-out of the 2020 season.

Vitale and his wife recently welcomed a newborn baby to their family. He signed a one-year deal worth $1.3 million back in March to compete for the starting fullback spot. That role will now fall to Jakob Johnson and rookie Dalton Keene.

SOURCE: Mike Reiss on Twitter
Jul 27, 2020, 6:05 PM ET

I believe that's exactly his point, without outright saying so.

And a few more ....


MARCUS CANNON
T, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

Boston Herald's Karen Guregian reports Patriots RT Marcus Cannon is opting out of the 2020 NFL season.

Cannon was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma during his final year at TCU and had been considering opting out in recent days due to COVID-19 concerns. His option is considered “high-risk” and includes a $350,000 stipend (and an accrued season) as a cancer survivor. His contract, which was scheduled to pay $4.7 million this year, will also toll. It's the first dire domino to fall prior to the August 3 deadline as the 32-year-old made 15 starts for New England last season. It's possible the Patriots move Joe Thuney to the right side, or simply trust any of Korey Cunningham, Yodny Cajuste or Justin Herron to fill Cannon's void. Veterans LaAdrian Waddle and Cordy Glenn are also available in free agency. Cannon joins offensive guard Najee Toran and fullback Danny Vitale among those who also took voluntary opt outs with the Patriots.

SOURCE: Karen Guregian on Twitter
Jul 28, 2020, 12:11 AM ET

MAURICE CANADY
DB, DALLAS COWBOYS

Cowboys CB Maurice Canady will opt-out of the 2020 season.

Canady played for the Jets and Ravens last season, starting three of the 13 games he suited up for. The Cowboys' cornerback group remains full of questions after Byron Jones' departure in free agency.

SOURCE: Mike Garafolo on Twitter
Jul 27, 2020, 11:35 PM ET

As this wave has started, expect to see it grow.

When baseball pulls the plug here in the next few days, expect to see the NFL do the same.

Two ex browns ... and Brantley had some talent, just no desire or discipline

Hoping he stays safe though

It said Brantley was high-risk. I don't recall him having that type of health issue when we got him in the draft. Just discipline issues.

This right here. If baseball can't make it happen, there's no chance for football.

They report today ... the majority will opt out yesterday or today ... maybe a few will opt out over the first few days of training camp ...

Don’t be so sure baseball’s going to pull the plug over the next few days ... they may be forced to but based off the info we have right now that would be a huge reach to cancel ... they may have to in the future but not in the next few days ...

Football will start ... it will be a joke of a season if they finish but i doubt they finish ...

j/c:

I have been reading/watching various reports about certain teams like the Rams, Seahawks, etc are doing all they can to keep their employees safe at their facilities. Can you imagine what the folks who work for Daniel Snyder and the Washington franchise are feeling right now? Would you trust those creeps to do all they can to provide a safe environment?

There is no indication baseball will cancel the season.

There is a seven day opt out period in which a player can opt out and get a stipend. I think we are on day three of that period.

There’s a few more I just don’t feel like copying and pasting ... no big names or even starters I don’t believe ...

EDDIE GOLDMAN
DL, CHICAGO BEARS

Bears DT Eddie Goldman has opted out of the 2020 season due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Per NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, the move is due to "health concerns," so perhaps Goldman will receive the "high risk" stipend of $350,000 instead of the standard $150,000. Players are not eligible for the $350,000 if the higher risk belongs to a family member. Goldman's guaranteed $4.75 million salary now tolls to the 2021 campaign. The No. 39 overall pick of the 2015 draft, Goldman seemed to break out in 2018, but he returned to being a league-average player in 2019. It's still a huge loss from a snaps perspective, especially against the run.

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Jul 28, 2020, 10:51 AM ET

Ty sir ...

There’s more ... but this ones big ... Pats decimated on D and no Brady ... if BB wins this year he’s alone as the best ever in my book ... he has a real steep hill to climb ...


PATRICK CHUNG
DB, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

Patriots S Patrick Chung has opted out of the 2020 season to the coronavirus pandemic.

This is beginning to get serious for the Pats, who have now lost Chung, Dont'a Hightower and Marcus Cannon in one 12-hour period. Players seem to be even more concerned about COVID-19 and the league's protocols than they were letting on. Chung has a child on the way, and did not want to take any chances. One of Bill Belichick's most trusted players on defense, Chung's absence will create a huge void on the back end of the Pats' defense. Coupled with their losses in free agency, the Patriots are beginning to look extremely vulnerable, even if Cam Newton can bounce back. 22 days shy of his 33rd birthday, Chung's contract will toll to 2021, but his age means his future role will be up in the air.

SOURCE: Mike Reiss on Twitter
Jul 28, 2020, 11:38 AM ET

Here’s another with some impact ... nothing major but he’s a decent player ...

STAR LOTULELEI
DL, BUFFALO BILLS

Bills DT Star Lotulelei has opted out of the 2020 season due to the coronavirus pandemic.

30-year-old Lotulelei was due $4.5 million guaranteed this season. That will now toll to 2021, with $150,000 of it being paid now as a "stipend." One of the league's better known run stuffers, Lotulelei is not an impact player, but it forces the Bills to immediately dip into their depth in a season where they are beginning to look like AFC East favorites. Harrison Phillips and Vernon Butler are the next men up.

SOURCE: Joe Buscaglia on Twitter
Jul 28, 2020, 11:40 AM ET

That Bills D-line should be able to handle the loss and keep on ticking.

WR Marquise Goodwin another opting out.

It's happening.

Now up to (6) Pats playes

Bill may have to suit up ,,, *L* ...

There’s some rookies and FA’s that’ll get a shot now ...

There’s a lot more players opting out than I thought would ..