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Trump panel found no evidence of widespread voter fraud, sought 'pre-ordained outcome': Former member

A former Democratic member of the Trump administration’s now-disbanded election integrity commission says newly-released documents show no evidence of widespread voter fraud, and that "dissenting or even questioning voices" on the panel were unwelcome.

Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap said in a letter to Vice President Mike Pence and Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, the two Republican leaders of the commission, that assertions of widespread fraud appeared aimed at fulfilling a "pre-ordained objective" of finding evidence to back up earlier unsubstantiated claims by President Trump that millions voted illegally in the 2016 election.

The Maine Democrat, who said he and some other members of the commission were not included in its work, sued in November 2017 to obtain documents from the panel. The administration launched the election integrity commission in May 2017 and disbanded it in January.

Dunlap said that in a draft report by commission staff, "the sections on evidence of voter fraud were glaringly empty," and that now-released documents, prove that no such widespread fraud existed. “While individual cases of improper or fraudulent voting occur infrequently, the instances of which I am aware do not provide any basis to extrapolate widespread or systematic problems.”

Kobach, now a Republican candidate for Kansas governor, shot back in a statement.

“It appears that Secretary Dunlap is willfully blind to the voter fraud in front of his nose,” Kobach said. “The commission was also presented approximately 8,400 instances of double voting in the 2016 election looking only at 20 states.”

Dunlap responded that Kobach is citing figures never brought before the commission, and for which no evidence has been presented, according to The Associated Press.

Kobach’s spokesperson did not immediately respond to follow-up questions from ABC News on the disputed numbers. Vice President Pence’s office did not respond to a request for comment.

Dunlap's letter and posts come as controversy surrounding the election commission is reverberating in at least one statewide race this year.

The Democratic challenger in the race for Colorado secretary of state -- Jena Griswold, an attorney for the Obama campaign in 2012 -- has criticized Republican Secretary of State Wayne Williams for his willingness to comply with a request last year to hand over Colorado voter data to Trump’s commission.

Many states refused to comply with the panel's request for voter information, with some experts warning that a central, national repository of voter data could be a target for hacking and election interference.

Computer security expert Joseph Lorenzo Hall, chief technology officer at the Center for Democracy and Technology, for example, told ABC News that the commission had lacked adequate controls for protecting "that quantity of sensitive data."

In the wake of Colorado's agreement to send the voter information to the commission, nearly 3,400 residents of the state cancelled their registrations, according to a Denver Post report in July 2017. County election officials said they had never seen anything like that wave of cancelled registrations.

More: Trump's presidential voter fraud commission was short-lived, rarely met https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-p...ory?id=52139919

In an interview with ABC News, Williams stressed that the records he agreed to hand over are publicly available information that the state routinely shares with the Democratic and Republican parties. The files he agreed to provide include voters’ full name, birth year, party affiliation and voting history, and exclude information like the last four digits of Social Security numbers, driver’s license numbers and full birth dates.

Williams said Griswold’s objection to cooperating with the Trump task force is evidence of partisan favoritism.

“The Democratic National Committee was successfully hacked, but I still think they’re entitled to get a copy of the voting list. And I think it would be politically reprehensible for a secretary of state to say, ‘I will not give the list to one of the two major parties because they have demonstrated a failure of security,’” Williams told ABC News. “It’s critical that you have a secretary of state who doesn’t play politics, who doesn’t engage in cronyism where they only give the information to their friends.”

Griswold said her concern is about protecting citizens’ private information.

“This isn’t about politics, and especially not about party politics," she told ABC News. "This is about our Constitution, and our rights as citizens.”

She suggested that Williams seemed enthusiastic about complying with the commission.

“We are very glad they are asking for information,” Williams said in a statement at the time. “I wish more federal agencies would ask folks for their opinion and for information before they made decisions.”

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-pa...ory?id=56995344

Trump keeps telling the same lies and no matter how many times he's proven wrong, the same people keep believing him over and over again. Even his own panel found nothing.

Simply amazing.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
So it all went exactly as it should.

The President makes a concerned suggestion and Congress says yea or nay.

And you need to post how proud you are that our system still works?

Sad state of affairs if you ask me.

I'm not sure you even still remember how the system is supposed to work.

If you honestly think COVID poses a risk to voters bad enough that you think it's worth considering postponing an election.. then you get some members of congress together and you pose the question and you have a dialogue/discussion about it...

But Trump doesn't really believe that it does pose that level of risk... so he floated it out into the Twittersphere for public consumption and congressional response, and that is NOT how the system is supposed to work.

He was TRYING to get his base to chime in with "Yea, that's a good idea" and he was trying to set up the dems, who he knew would be opposed, by proving a point that if it's ok to vote it's ok to do other stuff..

He was trolling and baiting.. not working within "the system"..


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I don't usually get involved in this stuff, but you can't make this up...

Can't vote in person because COVID is dangerous, but send your kids to school. smile


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Here's another one.

The Republicans decided it was too dangerous to conduct their convention indoors. But send your kids to school.


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Chris Wallace challenges Biden to follow Trump on 'Fox News Sunday,' says ex-VP must 'get into game shape'
Wallace says Biden needs to experience 'vigorous, persistent questioning' from Sunday news shows

https://www.foxnews.com/media/chris-wallace-joe-biden-fox-news-sunday

Come on out of hiding Joe and show us what you got!

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When Trump is killing himself, why should he?

The best election strategy for Biden is to sit back and watch Trump make a fool of himself. Just keep pointing out when he does.

Like one of his latest examples. Telling the lie that children are immune to covid.


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Biden better hope they are immune, otherwise he will have to stop drooling all over them.

Yes, yes I know Trump drools all over them as well. sick


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No, he just wants all of them in classrooms spreading the virus to their families and loved ones by telling the lie that they're immune to the virus.

But carry on. It's already been proven they are not immune.


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If you can protest and riot for 59 straight days, you can most certainly show up to vote in person.

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Daughter had 1 in person class scheduled at Toledo, of all her classes. 1. The rest are on line.

She is required to live on campus though. Why? Unless some odd circumstance, the university requires all first and second year students to live on campus. (unless you live within 20 miles)

She got a text last week, from the school. (conveniently just days after we paid for tuition, room, and board) Her 1 class that was going to meet in person got cancelled. All other available classes to replace that class are on line.

That means my daughter has to live in a dorm, and eat in the dining hall/s while sitting in her room taking classes on line.

So, tell me, WHO wants kids in classrooms?

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you should probably start talking about colleges like they are a business.

because thats what they are. and of course businesses want their colleges to be open. thats how they get those profits, scamming off of people with ridiculous dorm room cost and tuition/books.

its people like that plus trump that want the schools opened.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
you should probably start talking about colleges like they are a business.


Ummmm................have you not read any of my posts over the last decade about this?


Colleges/universities are businesses first and foremost. They are in the BUSINESS of education, but the business part is front and center.

My freaking daughter is required to live in a dorm, while all of her classes are on line.

Heads in beds makes money.

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The saga you’ve been sharing makes me want to change my username. I’m sorry, Arch.

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It just sucks.

And I know 1 person on here thinks I'm making this crap up.

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Donald Trump will go down as one of the greatest catastrophes of the Republican Party, Hindenburg type stuff.


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Read this article title and laughed because, well it's nothing

" Joe Biden nears final decision on running mate"

then the text of the article is, something that adds nothing about,

yada yada yada, he's expected to make the decision by the week of August 10th. (( I heard a few days ago he was going to announce it by Aug 1))

What this means. 1, Biden can't make up his mind, or his handlers can't decide or don't want to piss off the ones who don't get it, yet. And somebody's giving Biden marching orders i.e. the deadline implication.

2. Trump not only picked his Supreme Court nominees, he had a list, the first day he became president, maybe while still a candidate.

3. #1, and #2 mean that Joe Biden, in acting presidential, can't hold Donald Trumps, you know what ,(athletic supporter), in a wheelbarrow!

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So it all went exactly as it should.

The President makes a concerned suggestion and Congress says yea or nay.

And you need to post how proud you are that our system still works?

Sad state of affairs if you ask me.

I'm not sure you even still remember how the system is supposed to work.

If you honestly think COVID poses a risk to voters bad enough that you think it's worth considering postponing an election.. then you get some members of congress together and you pose the question and you have a dialogue/discussion about it...

But Trump doesn't really believe that it does pose that level of risk... so he floated it out into the Twittersphere for public consumption and congressional response, and that is NOT how the system is supposed to work.

He was TRYING to get his base to chime in with "Yea, that's a good idea" and he was trying to set up the dems, who he knew would be opposed, by proving a point that if it's ok to vote it's ok to do other stuff..

He was trolling and baiting.. not working within "the system"..


Wrong.

He threw it out their as a question in this times of fear.

He will now be able to use it in the future as people cry about wanting mail in voting and things not being safe enough to vote in person.

He will remind you later, "I offered to delay things till we had improvement in this situation, but NOOOOOOOO, people went nuts calling for my impeachment!"

So you had your chance now go out and vote!

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2. Trump not only picked his Supreme Court nominees, he had a list, the first day he became president, maybe while still a candidate.



Interestingly, neither Gorsuch or Kavanaugh were on that list:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...court-nominees/


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Media to be banned from Republican convention due to coronavirus restrictions
In a modern first, the press will not be present when the GOP votes to renominate Donald Trump for president

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The media will reportedly not be allowed to witness the renomination of Donald Trump as president at the Republican national convention later this month.

Citing coronavirus-related health concerns, a convention spokesperson told the Associated Press that media members would be turned away in order to assure compliance with state and local guidelines “regarding the number of people who can attend events”.

The announcement was highly unusual and would represent a historic departure from convention practices in modern times. A small Arkansas paper, the Democrat Gazette, first reported the news. The Republican national committee, which organizes the convention, could not immediately be reached for comment.


Held once every four years, the parties’ national conventions represent occasions for party officials and operatives to come together to strategize, renew contacts, share excitement and ultimately formally nominate the party’s candidate for president.

The official nomination is typically covered with a wall-to-wall media blitz including cheering crowds decked out in party swag and a live broadcast of the nominee’s acceptance speech. The exposure typically results in a bounce of a few points for the nominee in approval polls.

But this year the Republican party appears intent on repeating its nomination of Trump, whose dismal performance in handling the coronavirus pandemic has dragged his popularity to historic lows, with no cameras present, in subversion of the president’s own instinct for spectacle and obsession with TV ratings.

“Given the health restrictions and limitations in place within the state of North Carolina, we are planning for the Charlotte activities to be closed [to] press Friday, August 21–Monday, August 24,” a convention spokeswoman told the AP.

“We are happy to let you know if this changes, but we are working within the parameters set before us by state and local guidelines regarding the number of people who can attend events.”

It was not clear how the convention could move forward in compliance with state guidelines, which have been a sticking point between Republicans and the state’s Democratic governor for months. The state of North Carolina currently has set an official limit of 10 people for indoor gatherings and 25 people outdoors.

The Republican national party has announced that 336 officials would attend the convention.

Confronted with earlier expressions of concern by the state about the crowds, the Republican party abruptly announced the relocation of key convention activities to Florida, which has a strongly pro-Trump Republican governor.

But Trump had to call off the public components of the convention in Florida last month, citing spiking cases of the virus across the country.

The convention was once expected to bring 15,000 journalists to Charlotte, but the spread of coronavirus this spring upended those plans.

The seven-day average for confirmed new Covid-19 cases in North Carolina climbed steadily before breaking the 2,000 barrier last month. The state has recorded almost 2,000 deaths total from coronavirus. Face masks are required in public in the state per executive order.

Privately, some GOP delegations have raised logistical issues with traveling to Charlotte, citing the increasing number of jurisdictions imposing mandatory quarantine orders on travellers returning from states experiencing surges in the virus.

The subset of delegates in Charlotte will be casting proxy votes on behalf of the more than 2,500 official delegates to the convention. Alternate delegates and guests have already been prohibited.

The Democrats have planned a mostly virtual convention to nominate Joe Biden Jr to be held in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, from 17-20 August.

North Carolina governor Roy Cooper said last week that the state would welcome the president.

“He’s welcome to come, but nothing has changed about our resolved to keep health and safety first,” Cooper said. “Obviously we would have concerns about people coming in and about a large crowd, but we’ll continue to keep health and safety number one in this process.”

Trump indicated in an interview at the White House last month that he would travel to Charlotte to accept the nomination.

“We’ll be doing a speech on Thursday – the main speech, the primary speech,” Trump told reporters. “Charlotte, they will be doing the nominating on Monday. That’s a different period, a different thing happening, but they’ll be doing nominations on Monday. I speak on Thursday.”

Trump last month announced cancellation of three days of events set for Florida. “I looked at my team and I said the timing for this event is not right. It’s just not right,” Trump said at the White House. “To have a big convention, it’s not the right time.”


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
So, tell me, WHO wants kids in classrooms?


arch, I certainly understand your frustration. I have a granddaughter pretty much in the same boat but slightly different. Slightly different, but close to the same. Her college is on the other side of the state.

My comments and I believe most of the comments are concerning grades K-12. When it comes to college a student can transfer their credits to another school anywhere they like. While we all want our children to get the best education, as adults they have the option to make life decisions for themselves. They can postpone or put off college for a year or two.

None of those things apply for minors in the public education system. They are compelled by law to go to a school by and large within their district. Luckily most schools are allowing for options that give the option of online classes.

But who wants kids back in classrooms? According to Trump he does.


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Our local school, and most around here, are offering, at the parents choice, in person schooling (you know, like normal), OR on line/distance learning/schooling.

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That's what I said in my post.


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Can I ask a question and get a serious answer rather than a bunch of political BS. Yea I know, good luck with that.

Can someone explain to me the difference between absentee voting and mail-in voting? I get the fundamental difference that in absentee voting you are out of town and mail your vote in while mail-in voting you are at home and mail your vote in.

What I don't understand is why one is good and the other is bad.


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Originally Posted By: Jester
Can I ask a question and get a serious answer rather than a bunch of political BS. Yea I know, good luck with that.

Can someone explain to me the difference between absentee voting and mail-in voting? I get the fundamental difference that in absentee voting you are out of town and mail your vote in while mail-in voting you are at home and mail your vote in.

What I don't understand is why one is good and the other is bad.


I don't get the difference, I have been doing mail-in voting here in Florida for the past, 8 years?

I don't get what the big deal is, if anything, I am still amazed with all our technology people still have to show up to darken some circles on a piece of paper, run it through a scanner, that then emails it to a server. So skip the paper step and allow people to vote online.

We bank, we do unemployment, SS, medical records, and all kinds of sensitive stuff online. It's not impossible to allow online voting.


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Donald Trump will go down as one of the greatest catastrophes of the Republican Party, Hindenburg type stuff.


Oh the HUMANITY!


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Originally Posted By: Jester
Can I ask a question and get a serious answer rather than a bunch of political BS. Yea I know, good luck with that.

Can someone explain to me the difference between absentee voting and mail-in voting? I get the fundamental difference that in absentee voting you are out of town and mail your vote in while mail-in voting you are at home and mail your vote in.

What I don't understand is why one is good and the other is bad.


Absentee ballots are requested by registered voters by a certain given date. For mail in voting, a ballot is sent out to registered voters. One ballot per registered voter. Proving that it works in many states already with no widespread voting fraud and proving they are both good.


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Originally Posted By: Jester
Can I ask a question and get a serious answer rather than a bunch of political BS. Yea I know, good luck with that.

Can someone explain to me the difference between absentee voting and mail-in voting? I get the fundamental difference that in absentee voting you are out of town and mail your vote in while mail-in voting you are at home and mail your vote in.

What I don't understand is why one is good and the other is bad.


Absentee votes are fewer and more controllable. You need to request them.
Mail in votes are too many and can't be delivered in time or verified.

The June 23 primary election in the 12th Congressional District of NY still hasn't produced a winner as thousands of mail-in ballots have been tossed or remain uncounted.

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I saw this headline:

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Translation: Dems know that Biden is a bumbling idiot and would get destroyed by Trump, so they want to rely on the media and Hollywood to attack the president and win by default.

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Can I ask a question and get a serious answer rather than a bunch of political BS. Yea I know, good luck with that.

Can someone explain to me the difference between absentee voting and mail-in voting? I get the fundamental difference that in absentee voting you are out of town and mail your vote in while mail-in voting you are at home and mail your vote in.

What I don't understand is why one is good and the other is bad.


Absentee votes are fewer and more controllable. You need to request them.
Mail in votes are too many and can't be delivered in time or verified.

The June 23 primary election in the 12th Congressional District of NY still hasn't produced a winner as thousands of mail-in ballots have been tossed or remain uncounted.


So it's purely a volume thing?


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Lol. I saw that too. They say it would be pointless to have a debate because Biden will be spending the entire time debunking Trumps lies. What a copout. These debates are going to be a festival of buffoonery. Here you are folks, the best that the American two party system has to offer.


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Originally Posted By: Jester
Can I ask a question and get a serious answer rather than a bunch of political BS. Yea I know, good luck with that.

Can someone explain to me the difference between absentee voting and mail-in voting? I get the fundamental difference that in absentee voting you are out of town and mail your vote in while mail-in voting you are at home and mail your vote in.

What I don't understand is why one is good and the other is bad.


Absentee votes are fewer and more controllable. You need to request them.
Mail in votes are too many and can't be delivered in time or verified.

The June 23 primary election in the 12th Congressional District of NY still hasn't produced a winner as thousands of mail-in ballots have been tossed or remain uncounted.


So it's purely a volume thing?


No.

It's also a systemic thing.

For the first time, an executive order issued by Gov. Andrew Cuomo allowed all eligible voters to cast their ballot by mail if they submitted an absentee ballot application, but many voters reported receiving their absentee ballots after election day — or not at all.

Across the city, nearly 400,000 absentee ballots were cast, meaning Cuomo’s handling of the election could throw out some 100,000 votes. That’s roughly the number California disqualified, a number considered scandalously high though it represented just 1.5 percent of mail ballots.

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It can be done.But like anything else, it just needs to be done right.
"Five states currently conduct all elections entirely by mail: Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington and Utah"

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx


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The full article from which that quote came. I found interesting and informative and fair balanced

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx

All-Mail Elections (aka Vote-By-Mail)
3/24/2020

Introduction
Five states currently conduct all elections entirely by mail: Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington and Utah. At least 21 other states have laws that allow certain smaller elections, such as school board contests, to be conducted by mail. For these elections, all registered voters receive a ballot in the mail. The voter marks the ballot, puts it in a secrecy envelope or sleeve and then into a separate mailing envelope, signs an affidavit on the exterior of the mailing envelope, and returns the package via mail or by dropping it off.

Vote by mail logoBallots are mailed out well ahead of Election Day, and thus voters have an “election period,” not just a single day, to vote. All-mail elections can be thought of as absentee voting for everyone. This system is also referred to as “vote by mail.”

While “all-mail elections” means that every registered voter receives a ballot by mail, this does not preclude in-person voting opportunities on and/or before Election Day. For example, despite the fact that all registered voters in Colorado are mailed a ballot, voters can choose to cast a ballot at an in-person vote center during the early voting period or on Election Day (or drop off, or mail, their ballot back).

Generally, states begin with providing all-mail elections only in certain circumstances, and then add additional opportunities as citizens become familiar with procedures. Oregon’s vote-by-mail timeline includes four times that the legislature acted prior to the 1998 citizens’ vote that made Oregon the first all-mail election state. See below for state-by-state statutes.

For detailed information on state laws related to voting by mail please see our resource on Voting Outside the Polling Place.

Possible Advantages

Voter convenience and satisfaction—Citizens can vote at home and take all the time they need to study the issues. Voters often express enthusiasm for all-mail elections.

Financial savings—Jurisdictions may save money because they no longer need to staff traditional polling places with poll workers and equip each polling place with voting machines. A 2016 study of Colorado from the Pew Charitable Trusts found that costs decreased an average of 40 percent in five election administration categories across 46 of Colorado’s 64 counties (those with available cost data). However, the study examines a number of reforms that Colorado enacted in 2013, with all-mail elections being the most significant. Others included instituting same day registration and shortening the time length for residency in the state for voting purposes.

Turnout—Some reports indicate that because of convenience, voter turnout increases. These reports assert that turnout increases by single digits for presidential elections and more in smaller elections. See this 2013 report on all-mail ballot elections in Washington and this 2018 report on all-mail ballot elections in Utah. Effects on turnout can be more pronounced for low propensity voters, those that are registered but do not vote as frequently.

Possible Disadvantages

Tradition—The civic experience of voting with neighbors at a local school, church, or other polling place no longer exists.
Disparate effect on some populations—Mail delivery is not uniform across the nation. Native Americans on reservations may in particular have difficulty with all-mail elections. Many do not have street addresses, and their P.O. boxes may be shared. Literacy can be an issue for some voters, as well. Election materials are often written at a college level. (Literacy can be a problem for voters at traditional polling place locations too.) One way to mitigate this is to examine how voter centers are distributed throughout counties to best serve the population.

Security—During all-mail elections (and absentee voting), coercion by family members or others might occur.
Financial considerations—All-mail elections greatly increase printing costs for an election. Additionally, jurisdictions must have appropriate equipment to read paper ballots at a central location, and changing from electronic equipment to equipment that can scan paper ballots can be expensive.

Slow vote counting—All-mail elections may slow down the vote counting process, especially if a state's policy is to allow ballots postmarked by Election Day to be received and counted in the days and weeks after the election.

State Statutes on All-Mail Elections

States that conduct all elections by mail:
Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)

States that permit counties to opt into conducting all elections by mail:
California: Any county may conduct any election as an all-mail election following statutory guidelines. (Cal. Elec. Cde §§4005-4008).
Nebraska: Any county of less than 10,000 inhabitants may apply to the secretary of state to mail ballots for all elections in lieu of establishing polling places (Neb. Rev. Stat. §32-960).
North Dakota: Counties may conduct any election by mail. Applications for mailed ballots are sent to each individual listed on the central voter file (note that North Dakota does not require voter registration ahead of the election) and there must be one or more polling places in the county for voting in the usual manner (ND Cent. Code §16.1-11.1-01 et seq.)
States that permit some elections to be conducted by mail:
Alaska: Elections that are not held on the same day as a general, party primary or municipal election (Alaska Stat.§15.20.800)
Arizona: A city, town, school district or special district may conduct elections by mail (Ariz. Rev. Stat. Ann. §16-409, §16-558)
Florida: Referendum elections at the county, city, school district or special district level (Fla. Stat. §101.6102)
Kansas: Nonpartisan elections at which no candidate is elected, retained or recalled and which is not held on the same date as another election (Kan. Stat. Ann. §25-432)
Maryland: Special elections not held concurrently with a regularly scheduled primary or general election (Md. Election Code §9-501)
Missouri: Nonpartisan issue elections at which no candidate is elected, retained or recalled and in which all qualified voters of one political subdivision are the only voters eligible to vote (Mo. Rev. Stat. §115.652 et seq.)
Montana: Any election other than a regularly scheduled federal, state, or county election; a special federal or state election, unless authorized by the legislature; or a regularly scheduled or special election when another election in the political subdivision is taking place at the polls on the same day (MCA 13-19-101 et seq.)
Wyoming: Counties may decide to conduct special elections not held in conjunction with a primary, general or statewide special election entirely by mail (Wyo. Stat. 22-29-115)

States that permit certain jurisdictions or portions of a jurisdiction to be designated as all-mail based on population:
Idaho: A precinct which contains no more than 140 registered electors at the last general election may be designated by the board of county commissioners a mail ballot precinct no later than April 1 in an even-numbered year (Idaho Code §34-308)
Minnesota: Elections conducted by a municipality having fewer than 400 registered voters on June 1 of an election year and not located in a metropolitan county (Minn. Stat. §204B.45)
Nevada: Whenever there were not more than 20 voters registered in a precinct for the last preceding general election (Nev. Rev. Stat. §293.213)
New Jersey: A municipality with a population of 500 or fewer persons, according to the latest federal decennial census, may conduct all elections by mail (NJRS §19.62-1)
New Mexico: A county may designate a precinct as a mail ballot election precinct if it has fewer than 100 voters and the nearest polling place for an adjoining precinct is more than 20 miles driving distance from the precinct boundary in question (N. M. Stat. Ann. § 1-6-22.1)


NOTE: Please note this summary should be used for general informational purposes and is not intended as a legal reference. NCSL is unable to aid, advise or answer questions regarding individual cases. If you have questions regarding your eligibility to vote in state or local elections, please contact your local board of elections. Thank you.


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Well it failed in NY and California.

Better get all the kinks worked out real soon because the Supreme Court will end up deciding if Mail in votes count in our National Election and these debacles are hard evidence too.

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Originally Posted By: Jester
It can be done.But like anything else, it just needs to be done right.
"Five states currently conduct all elections entirely by mail: Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington and Utah"

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx


Not completely accurate. Colorado still has in person voting available if one chooses. A ballot is mailed to all voters, usually get mine in early October. We are given a deadline to drop in the mail by for it to be counted. After the mailing deadline, we can drop it off in a voting dropbox, available at most government offices. On election day, you can vote in person. Voting in person voids the mail in ballot. In my experience, it goes smoothly.

In addition to the ballot, they send a book with all the issues on the ballot along with arguments for and against each one. It provides more detail than whats on the ballot. I find it handy to go through materials at my own pace as I fill out the ballot.

I think the biggest concern would be ballots being mailed to people that shouldn't get a ballot for whatever reason. If a person fills out two ballots, do they check the signature close enough to see that it was forged?


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Originally Posted By: Jester
It can be done.But like anything else, it just needs to be done right.
"Five states currently conduct all elections entirely by mail: Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington and Utah"

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx


Not completely accurate. Colorado still has in person voting available if one chooses. A ballot is mailed to all voters, usually get mine in early October. We are given a deadline to drop in the mail by for it to be counted. After the mailing deadline, we can drop it off in a voting dropbox, available at most government offices. On election day, you can vote in person. Voting in person voids the mail in ballot. In my experience, it goes smoothly.

The article does talk about that

In addition to the ballot, they send a book with all the issues on the ballot along with arguments for and against each one. It provides more detail than whats on the ballot. I find it handy to go through materials at my own pace as I fill out the ballot.

I like that and think it allows for a more informed voter

I think the biggest concern would be ballots being mailed to people that shouldn't get a ballot for whatever reason. If a person fills out two ballots, do they check the signature close enough to see that it was forged?

Sounds like some states have this down pretty good. there are certainly risk for some voter fraud but I don't see how there could be enough to significantly impact an election



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