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Oh just tell him you don't like him so he can feel good for being right for a change.

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I know you were joking, but I'm going on the record as being sincere here. I had much venom for arch for well over a year, and I'm taking ownership for that. We actually have history that goes back that I' actually like to honor again.

That's going to take steps.
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I'm not going to accept any apologies when Trump is finally gone, but I am more than willing to forgive those who support him as long as they have adjusted their behavior prior to that time.

I have nothing against being conservative or republican, but leave that teabanger trumpian bigotry crap behind you.

We truly are all in this together and have to find a way to live together after Trump. But not one second before he is gone.

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I like that post and I am going to try and build off it. I hope I don't upset you or arch or anyone, but I probably will.

For years, I have preached that we try and work together. I have asked that we try to bridge the gap instead of widening the divide. I have asked for tolerance if not acceptance. I have said we don't have to agree on our ideologies, but we can at least respect the rights of others to express their opinions. I have asked that we collaborate despite our differences in order to build upon the greater good.

I am not going to go into a lot of detail about this because if I did, it will give ammunition to people who want to shoot down the real message, but I was mocked for those beliefs and people misrepresented my positions. I got mad and fought back. My fighting nature is a strength and a weakness.

My bottom line is that I really wish we could all be reasonable. I think Clem's last post was reasonable. We all don't have to be perfect. We all make mistakes. Shall we use grudges as crutches? Or, shall we cast them aside and walk strongly into the future?

Those choices are individual ones. Do you all want to be part of the problem or part of the solution?

Awhile back, I started a thread in EE and Clem said that Covid would reveal character. I think he was correct. I have seen both ugliness and beauty in the reactions of people to the virus. Unfortunately, more ugliness than beauty.

The cool thing about life is that even though you make poor decisions, there is time to change your game. Y'all still have time to drop the ugliness and become beautiful by supporting the move to work together instead of furthering the divide. The choice is yours.

I worry that the freedom of choice is running out. Our country is at a cross-roads. Stop the selfishness on both sides and work together to become a cohesive and productive nation. We will never convert the extremists on either side, but the rational folks need to unite in order to overcome the crisis that our country is facing.

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Yep, false report.

I looked up the sources that reported Biden wouldn't debate, but it was sources that equated to Roger Brown on the right.

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I haven't seen that headshot in years.

There was once a poster who had that RB pic in his sig. The caption read: "Roger Brown- he looks like he's thinking; then you read the articles"

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Oh, you've give me an idea.

I'll be back in a few. Stay tuned.

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May I ask why you always resort to mocking me and ignoring the larger point?

Are you simply trying to win at something I am not even competing at? Jesus..........I make an honest post about working together and putting differences aside and you ignore it and post a pic of Roger Brown and false report.

I am really thinking that none of you really want solutions.

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He's probably just walking the not getting himself banned line because you or eve or somebody that likes you guys has a pal in the refs room. I just got of a week of banned camp for taking you to the woodshed over attacking the 'club'... funny how I never said a damn thing that one of you didn't say that was equally as bad, yet neither of you went to camp. You answer how that happens and I'll give you props but for now, you are persona non grata to me.


I'll probably take a ban for that. But I just don't care.

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The report you heard was dubious. Now you're criticizing me for showing you the report was nonsense? You aren't the report, Vers. Just showing you the report you heard was false.

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"Roger Brown- he looks like he's thinking; then you read the articles"



He's the face that personifies "give me I-V-vi-iii-IV-I-IV-V" to a cello player.

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I didn't report you, but I was suspended too. It was either Rocket or 888 who reported me. Of course, they started the argument and then reported me when I responded.

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He drank the kool aid bro, that's over his head.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I didn't report you, but I was suspended too. It was either Rocket or 888 who reported me. Of course, they started the argument and then reported me when I responded.


You weren't banned I checked to see if you were posting. Stop lying.

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I didn't report you, but I was suspended too. It was either Rocket or 888 who reported me. Of course, they started the argument and then reported me when I responded.


You weren't banned I checked to see if you were posting. Stop lying.


Thats a bit obsessive.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I like that post and I am going to try and build off it. I hope I don't upset you or arch or anyone, but I probably will.

For years, I have preached that we try and work together. I have asked that we try to bridge the gap instead of widening the divide. I have asked for tolerance if not acceptance. I have said we don't have to agree on our ideologies, but we can at least respect the rights of others to express their opinions. I have asked that we collaborate despite our differences in order to build upon the greater good.

I am not going to go into a lot of detail about this because if I did, it will give ammunition to people who want to shoot down the real message, but I was mocked for those beliefs and people misrepresented my positions. I got mad and fought back. My fighting nature is a strength and a weakness.

My bottom line is that I really wish we could all be reasonable. I think Clem's last post was reasonable. We all don't have to be perfect. We all make mistakes. Shall we use grudges as crutches? Or, shall we cast them aside and walk strongly into the future?

Those choices are individual ones. Do you all want to be part of the problem or part of the solution?

Awhile back, I started a thread in EE and Clem said that Covid would reveal character. I think he was correct. I have seen both ugliness and beauty in the reactions of people to the virus. Unfortunately, more ugliness than beauty.

The cool thing about life is that even though you make poor decisions, there is time to change your game. Y'all still have time to drop the ugliness and become beautiful by supporting the move to work together instead of furthering the divide. The choice is yours.

I worry that the freedom of choice is running out. Our country is at a cross-roads. Stop the selfishness on both sides and work together to become a cohesive and productive nation. We will never convert the extremists on either side, but the rational folks need to unite in order to overcome the crisis that our country is facing.



Guess this post has no shot. It's all about attacking one another.

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Nobody asked you, go back to your hickville hole in the wall and leave me alone.

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Nobody asked you, go back to your hickville hole in the wall and leave me alone.


No.

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We might hug it out after Trump, but you have chosen your side, so now you get the ride you bargained for.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
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I didn't report you, but I was suspended too. It was either Rocket or 888 who reported me. Of course, they started the argument and then reported me when I responded.


You weren't banned I checked to see if you were posting. Stop lying.


Yes, I was suspended. I think it was from 7/30 until 8/2 and for BS. Perfect calls me a Nazi and nothing. Others make up lies about what I have said and nothing. If I dare fight back..........suspension. Hell, I will probably be suspended for debating you on whether or not I was suspended. Bunch of BS!

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I like how posting facts is a shot at someone’s integrity now. Boy we have some super sensitive people round these parts.

I mean good lord.

Gotta fear monger on the 2nd amendment AGAIN.

Despite the recent SC ruling, we all know conservatives are ramp up their pro life rhetoric here soon enough.

Socialism lingering in the shadows has been here since 2018.

Soon we’re gonna get another war on Christmas and thanksgiving.

Trumps already ramped up his white grievances rhetoric, so I dunno how far he can push it this election. Kinda exhausted that route, but who knows.

And I’m sure we’ll get something about those dirty Latinos soon enough.



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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
I'm going on the record as being sincere here. I had much venom for arch for well over a year, and I'm taking ownership for that. We actually have history that goes back that I' actually like to honor again.

That's going to take steps.
I'm an adult- I get it.



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j/c

This entire thread is crazy. O'Rourke got very little support in the Democratic primaries. So little in fact he was one of the first to drop out. What this shows is his views are not shared by most in the party. So the entire "What O'Rourke said" means nothing.

There is zero evidence to even indicate that Biden has ever endorsed "taking anyone's guns".

But don't let that stop anyone from saying it. It seems the most gullible among us are quite willing to buy into it. Yet before you do, please remember the past few decades.

Fist it was Bill Clinton gonna take my guns! That was during the campaign when he ran for president during 1992.

Next on the list was Obama gonna take my guns! That was during Obama's run for president in the 2008 campaign.

So this will be the third decade in a row Republicans will be telling the same lie. You would think everyone would know the story of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. But it appears many still don't have a clue.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG

So this will be the third decade in a row Republicans will be telling the same lie. You would think everyone would know the story of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. But it appears many still don't have a clue.


Let's not forget that Dems are pure socialists, want to give everything away and tax everyone to death - while the GOP is for small government and conservative fiscal spending and reduce government spending.... Swish mentioned other propaganda that gets peddled each election.

And the beat goes on. I am sure their marketing campaign will resonate with many regardless of facts .... and I am sure the Dems will be guilty of something similar. We've already seen Biden make false claims about Trump. And the beat goes on.


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He's probably just walking the not getting himself banned line because you or eve or somebody that likes you guys has a pal in the refs room. I just got of a week of banned camp for taking you to the woodshed over attacking the 'club'... funny how I never said a damn thing that one of you didn't say that was equally as bad, yet neither of you went to camp. You answer how that happens and I'll give you props but for now, you are persona non grata to me.


I'll probably take a ban for that. But I just don't care.


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I fully expect our fellow Americans to turn in their AR-15s and AK-47s,” said O’Rourke.


This has to be one of the most out of touch thoughts ever blabbered.


How long will some attempt the NRA's tired, old "scare tactics" of the past...that the government is going to take your guns away?



You have mastered the art of responding to posts with totally irrelevant questions.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Why are Republicans trying to put Kanye on the ballot everywhere this week? Are they seriously thinking he will hurt Biden? lmao smh

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/05/politics/kanye-west-ballot/index.html


I don't understand this either.

After all, Biden said Kanye "Ain't Black".

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Well he must not be. There's no way that Republicans would try to help a black man run for president.


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New York AG seeks to dissolve NRA in new lawsuit

Letitia James accused the NRA of having 'a culture of self-dealing,' taking millions of dollars for personal use

NRA President Carolyn Meadows called the lawsuit "a baseless, premeditated attack," claiming it targeted not just the NRA, but the constitutional rights it defends.

"You could have set your watch by it: the investigation was going to reach its crescendo as we move into the 2020 election cycle," Meadows said in a statement. "It’s a transparent attempt to score political points and attack the leading voice in opposition to the leftist agenda. This has been a power grab by a political opportunist – a desperate move that is part of a rank political vendetta. Our members won’t be intimidated or bullied in their defense of political and constitutional freedom.”

Meadows added that the NRA "will not shrink from this fight – we will confront it and prevail.” ​

To that end, the NRA countersued James, seeking a court declaration that they are following state not-for-profit law and alleging that The New York Attorney General is targeting the organization for its political positions, violating its free speech rights.

"The New York Democratic Party seeks to harass, defund and dismantle the NRA because of what it believes and what it says," the lawsuit says. "Only this Court can stop it."

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I fully expect our fellow Americans to turn in their AR-15s and AK-47s,” said O’Rourke.


This has to be one of the most out of touch thoughts ever blabbered.


How long will some attempt the NRA's tired, old "scare tactics" of the past...that the government is going to take your guns away?



You have mastered the art of responding to posts with totally irrelevant questions.


jfan...feel free to spout the same old BS, that the Gov is coming to take your guns!

HOW MANY GUNS HAS THE GOV TAKEN FROM YOU?


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I don't see where he was saying that at all.


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Well he must not be. There's no way that Republicans would try to help a black man run for president.


I voted for Caine. I'm not a republican, but I still voted for him in the primaries.


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And how did that work out? I'm not talking about individuals as much as the party as a whole.

I don't lump any large group as all being the same. Not Democrats because obviously one of the most moderate candidates on the ticket won the nomination. Not all Republicans because may of them see what's been going on. Not all protestors because it's plain to see that from a percentage standpoint the number of those committing violence are small. Not all cops because there are a vast majority of good ones among the bad ones.


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Well he must not be. There's no way that Republicans would try to help a black man run for president.


I voted for Caine. I'm not a republican, but I still voted for him in the primaries.


I am a Republican and voted for Cruz in the primaries.
He is the first Hispanic American to serve as a U.S. Senator from Texas. In 2016, Cruz ran for President of the United States, winning Republican contests in 12 ...

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Is it possible he is a Muslim born in Kenya?


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I fully expect our fellow Americans to turn in their AR-15s and AK-47s,” said O’Rourke.


This has to be one of the most out of touch thoughts ever blabbered.


How long will some attempt the NRA's tired, old "scare tactics" of the past...that the government is going to take your guns away?



You have mastered the art of responding to posts with totally irrelevant questions.


jfan...feel free to spout the same old BS, that the Gov is coming to take your guns!

HOW MANY GUNS HAS THE GOV TAKEN FROM YOU?


You have mastered the art of responding to posts with totally irrelevant questions


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It's what they do. I've not seen 1 dem/lib on here tell us what bidens plans are............all they do is attack trump.

No wonder biden lives in his basement. Or, out side, or in his sun room sun glasses on, so no one can see him attempting to read the teleprompter while still not being able to complete a sentence.

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Did you forget that I shared what his platform was yesterday? Look towards the beginning of this thread.

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