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Originally Posted By: Swish
honestly i thought Biden was gonna pull the ultimate trick and get Michelle obama as his VP.

there would've been nothing but panic on the right. would've saw a record # of women coming out to vote.


I agree. I was really hoping for that as well. But Michelle has probably had enough of the GOP cheating politics. Hell!....the deplorables went so low to rip off her speech. There’s no telling how low they’ll go this time around.


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It's no wonder we only have two piles of crap to choose from again this election. I said I would not decide who to vote for until Biden picked a VP. So now he has. I log in here and try to find out where She stands on the issues only to scroll through my Dad can beat up your dad posts and not a single post on Mrs Harris stand on the issues banghead


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It's no wonder we only have two piles of crap to choose from again this election. I said I would not decide who to vote for until Biden picked a VP. So now he has. I log in here and try to find out where She stands on the issues only to scroll through my Dad can beat up your dad posts and not a single post on Mrs Harris stand on the issues banghead


rofl Issues??... Pffft. Nobody really want’s to argue issues here. It’s about how much abuse can be handed out.

Have at it or move along boomer. wink


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Just stop it.

You was gonna go “both sides sucks” no matter who runs. That line is tired and old....ya know like the two guys we’re picking from smile


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Tucker Carlson Gets Corrected To His Face On Live TV And REALLY Doesn’t Like It

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/tucker-carlson-kamala-harris-name-050020369.html

What garbage. Tucker lost it because somebody told him how to properly say Harris’s first, WHICH IS NOT HARD.

So he goes off talking about “no one is immune from criticism” when discussing Harris....over getting corrected for mispronouncing her name.

Anybody who follows this clown probably still wets the bed in the middle of the night.


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It’s a cop out. Total cop out to say both sides suck. It simply isn’t true.

Can one of you trump supporters explain to me how on earth can you possibly trust a known pathological liar?


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I wonder if they can another question without mentioning the media or liberals.

They really struggle defending trump on his own merits.


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As an Independent, I think both choices suck.

Neither one has shown any honest interest in working for the people, over working for their buddies.

It is what politics have become, and it is the biggest divide this country has, and they use it as a tool to keep control.

There could be 2 or 3 other viable candidates, but the majority of the population is brainwashed to believe they have to pick one of these 2. And then every 4th year we repeat the cycle of self-serving government representatives pretending like they care about the average citizen, while they hand out favors to all their big money donors.


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Kanye West is on the ballot....




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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Have at it.


Oh Trump already started.. They had an ad ready and waiting for her.

Basically, like everything else Trump does, the ad was simply untrue.

I think that Pence better come alive because this candidate will wipe the floor with him.


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As an Independent, I think both choices suck.


As a human being, there is only one choice here.


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As an Independent, I think both choices suck.


Honestly I don't know anyone who is thrilled at the choices. I don't know anyone who is a cheerleader for Biden. It's a sorry reflection of USA politics for sure.

That said - it's still a race with 2 choices. Hopefully you can figure out that one uninspiring choice is better than the other. We've had 4 years of constant lies and scandals - hate and division, sown from the top down. Personally I don't think it's that hard.


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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
It’s a cop out. Total cop out to say both sides suck. It simply isn’t true.

Can one of you trump supporters explain to me how on earth can you possibly trust a known pathological liar?


You can't and I said that during the last election. I said Trump wasn't smart enough to lie and get away with it, and that Hillary could look somebody straight in the eye and lie her ass off without them knowing. Now we have a liar, and an Alzheimer's patient running against each other. IMO they are both old perverts as well, so yes both sides do suck.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Just stop it.

You was gonna go “both sides sucks” no matter who runs. That line is tired and old....ya know like the two guys we’re picking from smile


I might as well vote for the old good looking guy then.



I'm voting for myself wink


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There are a lot people thrilled with the choices on both sides. Both sides are energized. It’s just impossible to defend trump so it’s all about verbal abuse now. Just how much verbal abuse can trump and his supporters hand out before they start sinking their cause even more. It’s only a matter of time.


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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
It’s a cop out. Total cop out to say both sides suck. It simply isn’t true.

Can one of you trump supporters explain to me how on earth can you possibly trust a known pathological liar?


You can't and I said that during the last election. I said Trump wasn't smart enough to lie and get away with it, and that Hillary could look somebody straight in the eye and lie her ass off without them knowing. Now we have a liar, and an Alzheimer's patient running against each other. IMO they are both old perverts as well, so yes both sides do suck.


Thanks for making my point. Love you GM... naughtydevil


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Originally Posted By: Swish
also, i want to make this clear:

Devil, DC, Arch: you guys idea about how Harris will be viewed amongst liberals is very valid.

im simply saying the only thing the right/trump/fox news can do is indirectly plant divisive seeds, because any direct attack only plants a target on them based on their own past/current comments dealing with race and gender.

fair or not, they have to tip-toe with personal non-policy attacks on Harris, because she is NOT hillary clinton toxic whatsoever.
I see what you're saying now. That's a great point.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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Originally Posted By: FloridaFan
As an Independent, I think both choices suck.


Honestly I don't know anyone who is thrilled at the choices. I don't know anyone who is a cheerleader for Biden. It's a sorry reflection of USA politics for sure.

That said - it's still a race with 2 choices. Hopefully you can figure out that one uninspiring choice is better than the other. We've had 4 years of constant lies and scandals - hate and division, sown from the top down. Personally I don't think it's that hard.


Both are true. Well said.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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Just stop it.

You was gonna go “both sides sucks” no matter who runs. That line is tired and old....ya know like the two guys we’re picking from smile


I might as well vote for the old good looking guy then.



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As an Independent, I think both choices suck.


As a human being, there is only one choice here.


Yeah, gets me all warm and fuzzy voting for the less bad option. superconfused

It's just sad that this is what our country has become. And it started long before Trump.


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As an Independent, I think both choices suck.


As a human being, there is only one choice here.


Yeah, gets me all warm and fuzzy voting for the less bad option. superconfused

It's just sad that this is what our country has become. And it started long before Trump.



Well yeah...it started when Nixon thought he was above the law and then it moved below the belt with stains on a blue dress to a point that a pos potus is peeing on our constItution daily. The choice shouldn’t at all be painful to a decent human being.


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Good. she'll make grandpa sign the legalization bill when it comes across his desk. overall, her record makes her qualified.

again, the issue will be splitting hairs with the far left over her record as AG. Her record as a senator all but negates that due to her support of police reform and such.

people talk about excitement....nobody needed to be excited over the VP pick.

Biden already had the black vote locked up. if he didn't, the pick would've been Stacy Abrams or Bass. He didn't need to lock up the black vote; he needed to destroy the talking point of a radical leftist controlling him. He's never been for defunding the police, and omfg based on Harris AG record, there isn't a republican out there who could call her anti-cop.

Kamala Harris doesn't need to be exciting. She needs to be a solid foundation for Biden.

Republicans need to be worried about these "housewives" Trump keeps mentioning, like he did again today. a lot of them actually relate to Harris quite a bit...

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Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) became the first woman of color to be put on a presidential ticket Tuesday, after Joe Biden announced her as his Democratic vice presidential running mate.

During her time as California’s top prosecutor, Harris, the first African American to serve as California’s Attorney General, was criticized for being soft on technology giants and white-collar crime. Politico reported that Harris is a relief for Wall Street in that Biden chose her over Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who has long set her sights on reining in financial sector profits that outpace growth of American wages.

Under Harris’ watch, Facebook (FB) made pivotal acquisitions of Instagram and WhatsApp, now at the heart of Congressional and federal agency investigations into suspected anticompetitive conduct. Along with Google (GOOG) and Apple (AAPL), both headquartered in California, and Amazon (AMZN), the companies have come under increasing scrutiny for wielding what some believe is too much power over new market entrants.

“As attorney general of California, she possessed sweeping powers to restrain the growing power of those tech platforms,” HuffPost wrote in July.

California’s current attorney general, Xavier Becerra, said in November – months after other state attorneys general had already launched probes into antitrust concerns – that his office was conducting an investigation of Facebook. In July, reports surfaced that Becerra’s office had opened an inquiry into Google too.

Big Tech
Harris told The New York Times in 2019 during her presidential campaign that her priority with respect to Big Tech was for companies to protect their users’ privacy and personal information, rather than to focus on their size. That priority was evident in 2013, when Harris successfully curbed cyber exploitation by prevailing in a case against a revenge porn website and its operator.

Harris has more recently been willing to scrutinize Big Tech’s market dominance and handling of political and hate speech, as well as misinformation online. In an interview with CNN last May, in response to whether Big Tech needs to be broken up she said, “We have to seriously take a look at that,” and characterized the companies’ services as “utility that has gone unregulated.”

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), who also ran for the Democratic nomination, attacked Harris during a debate as too aligned with Big Tech to effectively regulate the industry.

Among top donors to political career contributors were Google parent Alphabet ($79,126), Apple ($56,982), Microsoft ($37,133), Cisco ($57,528) and WarnerMedia now AT&T ($40,197).

Wall Street
A self-described champion for middle-class Californians, Harris has touted her efforts standing up to Wall Street banks. She has frequently referenced a $20 billion settlement she negotiated on behalf of homeowners who faced foreclosure during the Great Recession. Some say Harris let big banks off the hook too easily by failing to prosecute executives responsible for crafting predatory mortgage practices.

Consumer advocates both praised and criticized the effort, on one hand calling it a win for around 150,000 families that reportedly accessed relief through the agreement, and on the other, a loss for disabled, widowed, minority homeowners who had less success obtaining relief through the settlement.

Minimum wage, paid leave, health care
As a U.S. senator, Harris has supported legislation for middle-class tax cuts, and a $15-per-hour federal minimum wage. According to her website, Harris supports measures that would allow Americans to access tuition-free higher education. In addition, she proposes raising teachers’ pay by increasing the estate tax.

In 2019, Harris introduced a bill proposing that families with less than $100,000 in annual income receive an income tax credit of $6,000. Single filers making less than $50,000 under the bill would receive a $3,000 credit. She introduced separate legislation that would extend tax credits, with market rate caps, to renters whose rent costs exceed 30% of their income. Another proposed bill sought to create a $100 billion fund from which people, mostly minorities, living in red-lined districts, and therefore faced with challenges in obtaining financing, could get down payment and closing cost assistance.

Harris is a supporter of the Affordable Care Act, as well as an expansion of the program that would include Medicare for All. In 2019, she proposed funding such a measure by taxing offshore and domestic profits at equal rates. During a Democratic primary debate, Harris raised her hand along with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) when asked if her healthcare plan would abolish private healthcare insurance to be replaced by a government-run plan. She later retracted the position, saying she misinterpreted the moderator’s question.

Legalizing marijuana
Unlike her running mate, Harris has been an advocate for removing marijuana from the Controlled Substances Act (CSA). As the lead Senate sponsor of the Marijuana Opportunity, Reinvestment, and Expungement (MORE Act), which was advanced in the House in November, Harris supported its goal to both end the federal prohibition of marijuana and incentivize states to expunge criminal records of defendants with marijuana-related convictions.

During her presidential campaign, Harris introduced a plan that would give all American workers 6 months of paid leave to care for children, as well as personal and family medical leave. Under the plan, Harris envisioned full wage replacement for workers who earn less than $75,000 annually, with phased out benefits for workers exceeding the cap.

Among the personal donors to Harris’ presidential run were Hollywood and Silicon Valley billionaires, including Gordon and Ann Getty, George Lucas, Dean Metropoulos, and Laurene Powell Jobs.

Asked by the Times whether anyone deserves to have a billion dollars, Harris said, “If they earn it and work hard for it, sure.” Adding a caveat to the position, Harris said that most people in the country do not start at a level that allows them access to such economic success. That disadvantage, she said, needs to be addressed.

Biden and Harris are expected to appear together Wednesday in Delaware.


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Look, basement Joe painted himself into a corner when he said he would pick a black female.

He flat out said that.

Is the left feeling patronized yet?


No he didn't say that. He said he would pick a woman.


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I wonder how long before Joe Feels Her Up?


C'mon, 'peen, you're better than that.


He used to be. Now he supports a president who has 25 sexual accusers while pointing the finger in the other direction. I mean you couldn't make crap like that up if you tried.


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Laura "White Trash talk" Ingraham? The only real thing about her is her crazy.


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I understand you don't like the choices you have. I'm not exactly thrilled about it myself. But I find it sad you feel the need to spread a GOP lie about Biden. That's beneath you mu friend.


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It's just sad that this is what our country has become. And it started long before Trump.


I agree with you. But I don't believe anyone can honestly say it had gotten this bad before Trump.


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How long will it be before Trump reaches back into the anti Obama birther playbook and which direction will he go?

Will it be "Kamala Harris practices Voodoo and was born in Jamaica"?

Or will it be, "Kamala Harris is a practicing Hindu who was born in India"?

I think the voodoo reference would be the direction he may lean.

He's already used his ever popular "nasty woman" line. I'm sure that will go over well with suburban women.


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It is a brilliant move! Harris will give the campaign the vibrancy and energy needed to unseat The Donald...


So was she brilliantly lying when she said she believes all of Biden's accusers or has she simply sold out like expected?

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Some people like Trump only want yes men. Anyone who questions him or suggests he may be wrong are quickly shown the door. A real leader wants opposing ideas and different perspectives to challenge them.

As a Trump supporter you're seriously going to question if a politician told a lie?

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Probably the least popular pick he could have made for so many reasons. Kamala's track record of prosecution, the fact that she said she believed Biden's accusers, her general disposition is smug, she also doesn't really help in any swing states. California is a left stronghold, so not really winning any votes there.

"Tough on crime" isn't exactly something the left is leaning into these days.


One could argue that this is the most Republican Democratic campaign in decades. Just more of the same exact recycled nonsense. This is like NFL coaches....didn't work here.....let's hire them again and again because "experience".

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I don't think being tough on actual crimes where a victim is involved is the issue. I think the issue has been how suspects are treated before they can make it to court. Let's not get confused.

And how is it you would describe Trump's "disposition"?

And speaking of recycled nonsense. Attacking a strong woman who will stand up against would be tough guys seems quite appropriate in what you are describing.

But make no mistake, I'm not thrilled with the Democratic ticket. Overall I agree with you about recycled nonsense. But if we're talking about Harris she isn't a lifetime senator or congressman. So it's far less recycled than it could have been.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Just stop it.

You was gonna go “both sides sucks” no matter who runs. That line is tired and old....ya know like the two guys we’re picking from smile


I might as well vote for the old good looking guy then.



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I'm just so uninspired by this election. I'm not excited about either candidate or VP and the only reason I'm interested is because I think Trump is an embarrassment to this country.

Why couldn't we have like a Crenshaw vs Tulsi election? Where people wouldn't obviously just vote straight party line, but they'd actually have to think about the candidate and the person? I know I'd have a tough time choosing who to vote for if those were the choices.

Instead we get two 70+ old white dudes who never really know what they're saying or talking about.

How did we get here?


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Crenshaw vs tulsi?

i would throw up in my mouth and seriously consider NOT voting.

i don't agree Tulsi's foreign policy stances almost completely, and crenshaw is another trump enabler who believes in trickle down economics.

yikes. that would be so trash.


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I don't think being tough on actual crimes where a victim is involved is the issue. I think the issue has been how suspects are treated before they can make it to court. Let's not get confused.

And how is it you would describe Trump's "disposition"?

And speaking of recycled nonsense. Attacking a strong woman who will stand up against would be tough guys seems quite appropriate in what you are describing.

But make no mistake, I'm not thrilled with the Democratic ticket. Overall I agree with you about recycled nonsense. But if we're talking about Harris she isn't a lifetime senator or congressman. So it's far less recycled than it could have been.



What the hell do you mean you're not thrilled? This is what you fought for! Biden is your guy! Kamala is Biden/Hillary lite! This should be a center left dream ticket. Remember how you can't let socialists run the country? smh


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It's your memory that is flawed. Biden was at best my third choice, not my first. So no, he wasn't "my guy".

At this juncture you're doing nothing but spouting sour grapes because Bernie was squashed just like a grape. Vote, don't vote. I don't care. But your tantrum isn't going to make any difference either way.

You can either be a part of the solution to get rid of Trump or remain a part of the problem. Your choice.

BTW "Mr. My Memory Is Crap". I actually agreed with most of Bernie's policies. what i said was that I didn't think he was electable at this point in time and I didn't want to see Trump get four more years.

You've lied almost as much as Trump today. Not quite, but almost.


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I'm not throwing a tantrum and never said anything about not voting for Biden, I just called out your obvious hypocrisy is all and that embarrassed you so you lash out... PFFT!


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I don't see how the lies you told called anything out.


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Hypocrisy. For sure.


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