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I can see this, right after we go get the Bundy bunch and the capitol building stormers for their TERRORISM charges.

But the rioters doing actual damage should be brought to justice under appropriate charges of vandalism, arson, or whatever truly applies.

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Looting, arson, and vandalism arent new special crimes.

No, but terrorism charges for rioting would be.

You have to consider the fact that these same people condone Trump's threat to order that those who have any part of tearing down a statue receive a mandatory 10 year prison sentence. The fact is that would be far more time served in prison than the average convicted rapist serves. But never mind that.

Maybe you should review the definition of terrorism.

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Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives” (28 C.F.R. Section 0.85).

Those BLM scum are terrorists.

Maybe you are right Eve! I mean this paragraph says it all:



This means that all those 2A guys are terrorists, the KKK, The Nazis, The white supremacists, the bikers who attacked the protesters in ohio, and pretty much every GOPer public display of civil disobedience and fear mongering tactics.

I'd be tempted to let the right have a handful of terrorism charges against the rioters in exchange for locking up a large percentage of the GOPer base on terrorism charges... Sounds like a good trade off on paper if it weren't for the obvious fact that none of them are actually terrorists.

This definition is very broad and vague leaving the charging of terrorist crimes open to a lot of interpretation by prosecutors and judges.

Its only a matter of time before blm gets labeled as a domestic terrorism organization.

Well since they have NO leadership structure or official leader, and since they amount to individuals taking up the fight for the ideal that black people deserve to be treated with the same deference that the overwhelming majority of whites get from police; it would be very hard to condemn the "movement" as a terrorist organization.

The right is learning that profound ideals such as equality for all is not something easily defeated. AND SHAME ON THOSE WHO TRY TO DEFEAT IT.

Except that they do have leaders. And their leaders are morons who go on record supporting the looting as reparations.

And that definition I posted nails them to a T.

You guys really need to make up your mind if it's Antifa or BLM you're going to blame for the riots. I have seen a lot of people blame Antifa, but the BLM thing is pretty new.

I guess according to that anyone who protests for change in our laws would be considered terrorists then. And here I thought the constitution said something completely different.

We arent discussing protestors. We are discussing the rioters committing illegal crimes of violence.

So is it Antifa or BLM that are responsible for that?

BLM supports the looting. So at the very least, them.

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

Straight from the horses mouth.

https://www.wbez.org/stories/winning-has...32-04cceba0d322

So you base it on comments from one black lives matter activist. Got it.

Like I've said before, I wonder what conclusions I could reach if I based my opinions on one Trump supporter? That supporter could be anyone with a number of beliefs. It could be a KKK member or a white nationalist.

But if I based all of my conclusions on what one Trump supporter had to say I would be wrong.

From your own source...

Some disagree doesn't mean they all do nor do enough of them agree to label the entire group. I notice when people do the same exact thing to you, you don't seem to like it or agree with it.

You didnt read careful enough. She isnt a random person, she is an organizer. She is a leader for BLM activities. And she is all about the looting.

Ariel Atkins, BLM activist in chicago.

"I don't care if someone decides to loot a Gucci's, or a Macy's, or a Nike. That makes sure that that person eats, has clothes. That's reparations. Anything they want, take it because these businesses have insurance. They'll get their money back."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12376076/ariel-atkins-black-lives-matter-chicago-looting/

Ariel Atkins is being called an organizer and an activist BUT I don't see anything calling her the leader or a leader of BLM. And since they have no leader that makes sense to me. Thanks for playing.

Let's try this again. Is she head of BLM or not?

What she said is wrong and I believe anyone committing crimes should be caught and convicted.

But basing what one of the leaders of a movement says doesn't mean that's some official message of the movement. Using that same sentiment would indicate you feel every major politician elected as a Republican speaks for the entire party. You don't believe that do you?

An organizer amounts to a person calling others together to protest. It could be a kid on tictok saying let's all sign up for Trump's free tickets and not show... that was just as organized as any BLM protest. smh

Organizers are in charge. That makes her a leader. It doesnt have to be the CEO.

liberals dont seem to comprehend simple definitions.

I bet if Trump wins blm will be declared a terrorist organization after the election.

Ms. Eve, you are wasting your time with those lunatics.

Probably so.

Have the top people at BLM come out and said "she doesn't speak for us."?

No probably involved. You can't try to reason with people like that.

Anybody who sticks up for rioting and looting is a lost soul.

Eve, he very well could declare so or say he wants to declare BLM a terrorist org, just like he said was going to declare Antifa a domestic terrorist organization.

However, the reality is that it would be merely symbolic in nature and have no legal authority to do so and would be meaningless as far as actual law goes.

There is no current law or statute in place that allows any domestic group to be designated as a domestic terrorist organization. Only foreign organizations can be designated terrorists by the U.S.

I wonder how the supporters of looters and rioters would feel if it was their house, or apartment, that was being looted and burned.

I don't know about those Milquetoasts, but I would be putting slugs in the forehead.

Yes we do, and by that same definition David Duke should be known as the CEO of domestic terrorists but white supremacy and the KKK lives on very well in murica. But yeah gotta get the BLM lumped into with all the looters and string them up first.

Also this is not true. They are a registered business. (charity)

And OH SNAP on their Charity Navigator page it states they are being investigated for criminal activities.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=18796

Big deal... everybody is 'being investigated' look at Trump's list of alleged crimes being investigated.

I agree - what she said was utterly ridiculous and moronic.

I think we should stick to what we agree on more so than the rest of the nonsense. She doesn't speak for BLM to my knowledge ... and trying to make out that one moron's words carry more authority or meaning than they do is futile. I also think that people that believe that vandalism and looting deserve the death penalty or a slug to the head are also out of touch.

Yet nobody here is doing that. But that's how you've been playing the game lately. Acting like what you claim you despise.

j/c:

Yep. come to find out neither group had a permit. At least those fighting against fascism are starting to arm themselves to level the playing field.

I don't see a need for a permit due to the 1st amendment right to free assembly. I don't get why anyone would need one.

They weren't meeting at the kkk clubhouse. They were marching through town, permit required for that type of thing 99% of the time.