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Joe Biden just picked Kamala Harris as his VP.

Eh, whatever. Wish it was Warren.


Trump did say Kamala would be a fine choice and you know he’s never wrong.


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Joe Biden just picked Kamala Harris as his VP.

Eh, whatever. Wish it was Warren.


Trump did say Kamala would be a fine choice and you know he’s never wrong.


rofl ruthless.


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North Carolina GOP House Candidate Defends His Photos From Hitler's Vacation Retreat

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/north-car...-213301904.html

God just read the article. These are the kinds of clowns conservatives support. The fact that some loser like this even made it out the primary let’s me know EXACTLY which direction the right is continuing to go.


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QAnon backer Marjorie Taylor Greene wins Georgia GOP runoff

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/51...rgia-gop-runoff

Yea, no wonder minorities don’t vote GOP. Conservatives make it really really......REALLY easy to vote for the other team.


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QAnon backer Marjorie Taylor Greene wins Georgia GOP runoff

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/51...rgia-gop-runoff

Yea, no wonder minorities don’t vote GOP. Conservatives make it really really......REALLY easy to vote for the other team.


I had seen and heard reference to QAnon several times ... I had no idea how wide spread this movement is until very recently.

People are rallying against Antifa and BLM - bringing up Black on Black crime .... QAnon represents a much more serious and flawed movement than any of that stuff. It's damn right scary when you get down to it.


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Well when dems take the white house and congress, we can MAGA by making straight jackets for all these people. Lock them up!


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https://news.sky.com/story/what-is-qanon...ection-12033874

and now we have an elected official openly repeating this garbage.


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Progressive Democrats roar in primaries, as 'Squad' beats back challengers
'Squad' membership likely to grow following progressive primary wins

Minutes after progressive Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota was projected as the winner of a Democratic primary where she was vastly outraised by one of her more moderate challengers, fellow "Squad" member Rep. Rashida Talib took to Twitter to celebrate.

"Our squad is big!" wrote the congresswoman from Detroit, who defeated a formidable primary challenger in Michigan’s primary just a week earlier in another contest that like Omar's grabbed national attention.

Omar’s victory essentially guarantees that the quartet of first-term progressive Democratic congresswomen of color will be returning to Capitol Hill in January. And thanks to a string of progressive upsets so far this primary season, it's likely the "Squad's" membership will grow.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/progressive-democrats-primaries-squad


Looks like this could have been Bernie's year.

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Could Kanye West Be Charged With Electoral Fraud?

Given that he didn’t announce his candidacy until July, Kanye West’s presidential bid has been an uphill battle from the start. But now, his campaign is facing a brand-new hurdle to appear on ballots in November, in the form of suggestions of potential electoral fraud.

The rapper has filed petitions to appear on the presidential ticket in 10 states, but so far has only managed to secure a spot on Oklahoma’s ballot, although he has many petitions pending review. While he managed to meet the filing deadlines for Illinois and New Jersey, the two states are now throwing West’s eligibility into doubt after both announced that the majority of the signatures submitted as part of his petition are invalid.

The latest issue has come in West’s home state, where Chicago’s WTTW reported that he was 1,300 signatures short of the necessary 2,500 needed to appear on the Illinois ballot. A hearing officer determined that only 1,200 signatures submitted were valid after the 46th Ward Democratic committee member, Sean Tenner, was inspired to take a closer look at the rapper’s petition. WTTW reported that the petition submitted by his campaign with the help of GOP officials in Wisconsin is also being challenged.

Last week, NJ.com reported that West’s campaign withdrew his petition hours before a scheduled hearing to determine his application’s validity after an elections lawyer questioned over 700 signatures his team submitted. West submitted 1,327 signatures to the New Jersey Division of Elections ahead of the July 27 deadline. Two days later, Florham Park–based elections attorney Scott Salmon says he found hundreds of suspicious signatures with issues including no last name, no municipality listed, people who were not registered to vote or didn’t live in New Jersey.

Salmon told NJ Advance Media, “I am glad to see the Kanye campaign has realized that their petition was not going to survive here. It was so clearly deficient that it wasn’t even worth defending. I think that’s the main takeaway here. I wish it wouldn’t have gotten this far.”

Additionally, a New York Times investigation found there are a number of Republican activists helping West get on the ballot, including Mark Jacoby whose company Let the Voters Decide has been collecting signatures in Ohio, West Virginia, and Arkansas. While working for the California Republican Party in 2008, Jacoby was arrested on voter-fraud charges and pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. Voter-registration fraud carries a penalty of up to three years in prison, according to CBS News.

West’s team has until August 21 to refute Illinois’s determination regarding the invalid signatures when the findings will be presented to the Illinois State Board of Elections. No official charges of voter-registration fraud have been filed against West or his campaign as of now.

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/08/kanye-west-2020-campaign-invalid-signatures-fraud


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why

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give this dude any sort of meaningful coverage when it comes to politics? just why?


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man 40 you better not entertain this man lmao


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I don't believe either one of them could actually entertain the other.


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j/c ... Not sure where to drop this interesting video regarding car production world wide 1950-2020. Figure it's relevant to the MAGA theme and what the global reality is regarding manufacturing. This is just one item - but it's probably reflected in many industries and across a wide range of products. in fact smaller, more transportable goods probably ae much more likely to be impacted by a much bigger factor.

https://para-rigger.posthaven.com/top-ten-car-producing-countries-1950-2019


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man 40 you better not entertain this man lmao


Then you ain't Black.

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Trump says fear of 'low income housing' will bring 'the suburban housewife' to his side

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-suburbs-attacks-biden-housing-policy-housewives-185303575.html

this is the kind of crap i'm talking about. stop telling me Trump isn't a racist.

really? "invade"? so poor people are invaders now?

and right wing losers all over social media will try to spin this nonsense and claim its not racist.

everyone who is poor and a minority is an invader in trump eyes, so i gotta look at the conservative base that supports him and think that they feel the same way, seeing as they are the ones who put him in the oval in the first place and continue to support him.

he makes it so easy to ruthlessly mock the conservatives.


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It's an all out class war and race war that Trump is willing to incite to keep power. He's a fascist, that's what they do.


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is trump aware that he HIRED the guy?

lmfaooooooo

Trump goes after FBI director Wray, whom he appointed, and issues warning to Barr

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/13/politics/trump-bill-barr-chris-wray/index.html

President Donald Trump on Thursday again attacked his own FBI director, whom he appointed, and pushed Attorney General William Barr to pressure the Justice Department's investigation of the Russia probe.

During a discussion about the Justice Department's probe into the Russia investigation, Fox Business anchor Maria Bartiromo asked the President whether FBI director Christopher Wray should step down.
"We know that the FBI lied to the Senate in February of 2018. Christopher Wray was running the FBI. Mr. President, is Christopher Wray hiding all of this stuff and protecting the FBI? Should he step down?" Bartiromo asked.
Trump railed against Wray, who he said should provide more documents to John Durham, who was tapped by Barr to lead the review into the origins of the Russia investigation.
"So Christopher Wray was put there. We have an election coming up. I wish he was more forthcoming, he certainly hasn't been. There are documents that they want to get, and we have said we want to get. We're going to find out if he's going to give those documents. But certainly he's been very, very protective," the President said on Fox Business.
CNN has reached out to the FBI and the Justice Department.
Trump told Fox Business that Wray "was put there for a good reason, he was chosen by a certain person, and I said, go ahead, put whoever you want. I'm so honest that I said you could put anybody you want. Let's see how Wray turns out. He's either going to turn out one way or the other."
He continued, "Bill Barr has a chance to be the greatest of all time. But if he wants to be politically correct, he'll be just another guy."
Barr said in an interview aired on Wednesday that he is aiming to release some conclusions from Durham's investigation ahead of the November election, putting a finer point on a timeline that has shifted in recent weeks and also opening up the possibility that the review could extend into the winter.
"We're all aware of the calendar and we're not going to do anything for the purposes of affecting an election, but we are trying to get some things accomplished before the election," Barr told conservative commentator Buck Sexton.
Trump has previously blamed Wray's hiring on former deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. But the President was the one to nominate Wray to lead the bureau in 2017, after firing James Comey. Comey had accused Trump of asking him to pledge his loyalty, which Trump has denied.
Trump has been unhappy with Wray for a variety of perceived faults, mostly related to conservative complaints that the FBI has not cooperated with efforts to review the 2016-2017 Russia investigation.
Fox News hosts and conservative media have attacked Wray over the issue, even though there's no evidence the FBI and Wray have been uncooperative.
The FBI has said that under Wray, the bureau has cooperated with multiple investigations into the FBI's handling of the Russia probe. Wray has assigned agents to some of Barr's efforts to reinvestigate aspects of the Russia probe.
Barr has also come to Wray's defense, saying that the FBI director has cooperated with multiple examinations Barr has ordered into the FBI's handling of sensitive matters.
The President has long sought to discredit the Russia probe and special counsel Robert Mueller's findings, doubting whether the FBI even had reason to open a full investigation into his campaign. He lashed out at Wray last year after the FBI backed an inspector general report that found the investigation into Russian election interference was properly launched.

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what a garbage "leader". constantly whines about the people HE hired in the first place. its just more evidence to the fact that trump has no business being POTUS.


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But he only hires the best people, right? I mean until he fires them or they say something he doesn't like.


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bro, its like this dude is TRYING to lose the election:

Trump says he is holding up coronavirus aid to block Postal Service funds for voting by mail

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-postal-service-mail-in-voting-coronavirus-funding-151003445.html

President Trump on Thursday said he is withholding approval for a coronavirus relief package because Democrats want to include funds for mail-in voting.

The president said Democrats want $25 billion for the U.S. Postal Service, $3.5 billion of which would be used to shore up infrastructure amid logistical challenges caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, which is predicted to keep some voters from going to the polls in November.

“They want $3.5 billion for something that will turn out to be fraudulent, that’s election money basically,” Trump said in an interview with Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo. “They want $25 billion, billion, for the post office. Now they need that money in order to have the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots. Now, in the meantime, they aren’t getting there. By the way, those are just two items. But if they don’t get those two items, that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting.”

“You know, there’s nothing wrong with getting out and voting, you get out and vote,” the president said to Bartiromo Thursday. “They voted during World War I and World War II, and they should have voter ID, because the Democrats scammed the system.”

“But, two of the items are the post office and the $3.5 billion for mail-in voting,” he added. “Now, if we don’t make a deal, that means they don’t get the money. That means they can’t have universal mail-in voting, they just can’t have it.”

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and there it is. he doesn't want the funding because he knows it will help more citizens participate in voting.

what a garbage ass human being.


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Trump: GOP senators who don't embrace him will 'lose their elections'

https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...lose-reelection

that's right, Republicans. fall in line, or get MAGA'd.


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Trump: GOP senators who don't embrace him will 'lose their elections'

https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...lose-reelection

that's right, Republicans. fall in line, or get MAGA'd.


Did you think he would go out gracefully? lol, this next few months is going to be very ugly.


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I hope he doesn’t go out gracefully.

I want him kicking and screaming on the way out the door. Take every last republican with him. Throw everybody under the bus. Give us a holiday season we can truly be thankful for.


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The guy that Trump appointed to run the FBI has to have access to every stinking bit of data in the files there.

What is it they will find that Wray couldn't get by walking up to people and getting the files.. ALL OF THEM.

Trump is a #1 moron.. I think he's pushing Barr, who has been his lapdog, and Wray to perjure themselves in order to blame democrats or someone else..

I can't wait for the Durham report and then watch as it's torn to pieces.


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Careful what you wish for, 30+ percent of the country will believe anything these dolts say.


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j/c

Newsweek Stands By Op-Ed Questioning Kamala Harris’ Eligibility As Vice President

After receiving a torrent of criticism online for publishing an op-ed that questioned Sen. Kamala Harris’ (D-Calif.) eligibility as a vice presidential candidate due to her ancestry, Newsweek stood by the decision to publish the controversial piece on Thursday and claimed it had “no connection whatsoever to so-called ‘birther-ism,’’ the racist theory that wrongly claimed former President Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

John Eastman, a law professor at Chapman University, published an op-ed in Newsweek on Wednesday raising questions about Harris’ eligibility for the office of vice president.

Eastman argues that because neither of Harris’ parents were naturalized U.S. citizens at the time of Harris' birth in 1964, the California senator is not a “natural born citizen” and therefore “ineligible for the office of the president and, hence, ineligible for the office of the vice president.”

This is false: Harris was born to Indian and Jamican immigrants on California soil, making her a natural born citizen and eligible for the presidency and vice presidency.

Eastman’s op-ed generated widespread backlash, with many comparing it to the Obama “birther” conspiracy and criticizing Newsweek for running the op-ed: Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law professor at Harvard University, called Eastman’s argument “worse than nonsense” and “racist birtherism redux.”

Nancy Cooper, Newsweek’s editor-in-chief, and Josh Hammer, opinion editor, stood by the decision to publish the piece, claiming in an editor’s note that Eastman’s op-ed had “nothing to do with racist birtherism.”

The op-ed, Cooper and Hammer argued, instead focuses on “a long-standing, somewhat arcane legal debate about the precise meaning of the phrase ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof’ in the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment” and does not question “Harris' place of birth or the legitimacy of an obviously valid birth certificate” as the birther conspiracy did to Obama.

Crucial quote

The Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Surprising fact

Eastman and Harris both ran for California attorney general in 2010. Eastman ran as a Republican, and lost in the primary. Harris ran as a Democrat, and ultimately won.

Key background

President Trump was one of the leading proponents of the birther conspiracy during Obama’s presidency, and some credit his support for the theory as fueling his rise in politics. “An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud,” Trump tweeted in 2014. Then-candidate Trump appeared to retreat from backing the theory in 2016 when he said “President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period. Now, we all want to get back to making America strong and great again.” Months later, after Trump had won the presidency and occupied the White House, the New York Times reported the president was continuing to privately question the authenticity of Obama’s birth certificate.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewste...t/#47e5a9a35353

And there it is. As I expected it didn't take very long. It seems quite obvious that Republicans are much more scared of Kamala than they are Biden and it's showing.


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so disgusting. man thats just pathetic.


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She's likely more likely to become POTUS with Biden on top of the ticket than any VP candidate of my lifetime, so they should worry about her. AND everybody knew these attacks would come because that's all the right has, lies, innuendo, and fear to prop up their newfound fascism.


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In a high profile case about vote-by-mail in a battleground state, a federal judge in Pennsylvania has told the Trump campaign and Republican party they must produce any evidence they have of vote-by-mail fraud in the state by tomorrow, per @kpolantz

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1293986746514972672

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That should be interesting. wink


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So for all those that are in favor of "mail-in voting" let mne ask you something with FACTS straight from the United States Postal Service that the media of course never reports on.

https://www.uspsoig.gov/sites/default/files/document-library-files/2015/ms-ar-14-006.pdf

The Us Postal Service handles about 6.8 billion packages per year that are undeliverable as addressed. This accounts for 4.3% of 158 billion pieces of mail.

Then we get into performance metrics of packages actually arriving "on time" (which is super important when it comes to elections and mail in voting)

https://about.usps.com/what/performance/...erformance.html

The 2 day packages have a mean average of 90% on time delivery (the other 10% are late) and the 3-5 day mailings have about 83% average of being delivered on time. Also note some cities have the delivery time down in the 70's and 60%

Now let me ask you a question?

If they go the route of mail in voting, your OK with 20% or more of the country NOT receiving their ballots until AFTER election day thus denying them their right to vote? (since you folks don't want no polls) that equates to about 65.5 million people who will receive their ballots late after election day thus will be denied their right to vote. Remember the Postal Service is already bogged down your going to add another 328 million + packages to their already overloaded system and expect there to be no problems? that's just obtuse.

Your also OK with roughly 13.1 million people never receiving an actual ballot? Please understand this number will be MUCH higher because 40 million people a year move in the US, your assuming the Board of Elections has the right address which I assure you most people forget to update this information after a hectic move, bills, utilities, etc all take precedence. So your looking at an average time of a year from the time someone moves to update their address with the board of elections. I used to volunteer at the BOE, and in the primaries over half the people coming in no longer lived at the address listed and it had to be updated. So your assuming just mass mailing these things out the address are correct?

This whole thing stinks. Mail-In Balloting won't lead to fraud, it will lead to mass voter disenfranchisement and millions of people being denied their ability to vote due to not getting a ballot on time before the election, never receiving a ballot, and no polls open.

I would be OK with mail-in voting if we actually had a plan to implement it...you can't implement something like this is a couple of months. this is something that takes YEARS to flesh out a proper plan of this magnitude. I had friends that were managers and higher ups at the USPS, UPS, and FedEx...prior to the last few years, FedEx and UPS were ahead of USPS, they had an entire supply chain line, all planned out, certain packages went to certain places, on certain routes to ensure delivery rates over 97% and ensure packages arrived on time 95% of the time or more...this was a system that took years to implement and get working like a well oiled machine. You don't know how much goes into things behind the scenes to make a system like this work...USPS has not yet caught up to FedEx and UPS they just started automated mail sorting like 2 years ago.

Mail in voting seems political...folks know Repubs hit the polls hard like no ones business. They need to deprive a percentage of people from voting to get their people in and mail in voting is the way to do that...13.1 million lost ballots and 65.5 million ballots that will arrive late does the job nicely all while skirting election laws...

This really needs to be re thought...we need more time to implement something like this so it would be ready for the next election, not now...no way this can gurantee a delivery rate over 97% on a national scale in the matter of a few months...USPS can't get a 97% delivery rate now what makes you think they cna do it in a few months?

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But somehow in your mind mandating in person voting during a deadly pandemic where we already have proof people will be infected is somehow more fair? Knowing that way over 20% will either not go or in many states, but mostly republican, will not have access to a local polling place or will be forced to stand for hours in line due to poll workers being sparse is fair? GMAB, you're crying alligator tears to carry Trump's water. Kick rocks.


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Listening to Joe Biden speak is as painful as watching these sloths.


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But somehow in your mind mandating in person voting during a deadly pandemic where we already have proof people will be infected is somehow more fair? Knowing that way over 20% will either not go or in many states, but mostly republican, will not have access to a local polling place or will be forced to stand for hours in line due to poll workers being sparse is fair? GMAB, you're crying alligator tears to carry Trump's water. Kick rocks.


And here we go!!!!

You perfectly willing to trash all.those peoples rights just so you get your way. Do you have no honor at all?

I couldn't stand Obama, but you know what? I never wanted to deny people their fundamental right to vote. You seem to have no issue with that though....sad

All I want is a fair election, as long as its fair (polls open) ill accept any result. You seem perfectly willing to trample on someone's rights to get your way

What kinda country are we becoming? If you dont belive every American has a fundamental right to fairly vote your living in the wrong country. NOTHING justifies even one person being denied their lawful right to vote.

Im.all.about mail in voting, once you build the infrastructure and can actually guarantee ballot delivery. No way you can do thst in a few months. Not possible.

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Denying people their right to vote? that's exactly what Trump is doing! Are you telling me that my 84 year old mother-in-law or 73 year old mom being forced to vote in person is not violating their right to vote in a deadly pandemic? GMAB

Save your trumpian drama for somebody that gives a damn because I don't. Deplorable.

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I've done mail in voting for the last 8 years, it's a Florida option.

They send me a ballot, which has a barcode, I fill it in, sign it, and return it. They scan it, the barcode confirms that only 1 copy is counted in case of multi copies getting sent.

They compare the signature on my ballot to the signature in the system from my voter registration.

Since my signature changes often, with certain characteristics being consistent, I have had then send me a registered letter with a copy of the signature from my ballot to confirm that was my signature.



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Originally Posted By: Milk Man
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In a high profile case about vote-by-mail in a battleground state, a federal judge in Pennsylvania has told the Trump campaign and Republican party they must produce any evidence they have of vote-by-mail fraud in the state by tomorrow, per @kpolantz

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1293986746514972672


Gee - a common sense response to the phony allegations and scare tactics of the Right. Well done that judge!

Maybe the Trump Campaign and Republican party will rely on the list that was supplied to this very board with several hundred examples of voter fraud spread over the last 20 years!! But somehow I do not think that will be sufficient!

Maybe they can use the results of the extensive voter fraud watchdog committee that Trump cherry picked his ring leaders for .... oh, hang on, they determined there WASN'T wide spread voter fraud.


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