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Just so happens to be happening in Boston at the same time.

Boxes being removed in Baltimore

Boxes being removed in Montana.

Postal Service "vows" to stop removal of boxes.

So now because they were caught...this is happening.


So if you vote absentee or by mail, don't drop your ballot in the post office. You can actually drop it off at a local board of elections in most states.

Whether you vote for Biden or Trump, don't let fascism stop your ballot by mail from being counted.

Call your representative and senator to voice your concerns.

This will also mess with prescriptions you receive in the mail.

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What a bunch of made up crap conspiracy theory.

People have mailboxes to mail in ballots ya know.

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This is also a load of crap.

Christmas holidays and federal tax deadlines are just as big mail traffic times.

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Your conspiracy theories are tinfoil worthy. The mental hospital crowd are on your side, I'm sure.



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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
What a bunch of made up crap conspiracy theory.

People have mailboxes to mail in ballots ya know.


It is made up crapola. I was a Postmaster in 2004 (I have 35 years experience) and the Postal Service was removing collection boxes around the country for various reasons starting in the later 90's.

We removed our collection boxes because we were told the public could drive the extra distance and deposit their mail at the main Post office. The Postal Service had collections twice a day and they saved collection hours by elimination...thereby saving money. There were other reasons as well.

Rocket is speaking of something he has no idea about!

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This was also a familiar scene when the Postal Service would switch collection boxes for a yearly paint job. rolleyes

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So I provide various sources of factual information.

I guess I need to provide more.

Trump opposes more USPS funding due to absentee ballot increase.

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Why does Trump need to give them money when they claim to have ample ability to handle it?

The only important quote from that entire biased slanted delusional article is what the USPO said:

"The Postal Service has ample capacity to adjust our nationwide processing and delivery network to meet projected Election and Political Mail volume, including any additional volume that may result as a response to the Covid-19 pandemic," the agency said in a statement.

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Why does Trump need to give them money


This is such a telling statement right? Now it’s trumps money? How you people can support this pos is deplorable. Pffft trump supporters.


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
This is also a load of crap.

Christmas holidays and federal tax deadlines are just as big mail traffic times.


Let me get this straight, you are saying that the US Post Office is so well equipped and such a well oiled machine that we can can remove mailboxes and sorting machines and there will still be no issue with mail-in voting?


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We'll see how they cope. It's not just removing sorting equipment so it has to be done by hand ... and removing them now. months from the election. The new powers that be - the hand picked henchmen of Trump - are changing directives that may well influence and impact vote by mail ballots. . . . Personally I think if the post office can handle Christmas it can handle the vote by mail election. What is likely to happen through these changes, people that don't send in ballots early enough to account for the slower than usual service will not have their votes counted.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/08/how-postal-service-preparing-election/615271/

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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Why does Trump need to give them money when they claim to have ample ability to handle it?

The only important quote from that entire biased slanted delusional article is what the USPO said:

"The Postal Service has ample capacity to adjust our nationwide processing and delivery network to meet projected Election and Political Mail volume, including any additional volume that may result as a response to the Covid-19 pandemic," the agency said in a statement.


Would you sincerely stake the fate of the nation on the truthfulness/accuracy of that statement?


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It pains me to think that someone like Cody Tims might have been disenfranchised if he was still alive...




Besides, why are you grousing? Democrats don't send in their ballots. They hide them in trunks and closets in case the election is close, then they conveniently happen to find a few dozen Democrat votes here and there... How do you think Al Franken was elected?


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Um...

It’s both sides of the isle buddy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nymag.com/i...republican.html
GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by Republicans

https://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2020/jul/16/cries-of-voter-fraud-should-be-aimed-at-those-comm/
Cries of voter fraud should be aimed at those committing it: Republicans



...and this was just a quick search.


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Postal Service removes some mail-sorting machines, sparking concerns ahead of election

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/13/politics/postal-service-sorting-machines/index.html

Postal workers are sounding the alarm as mail sorting machines are removed from processing facilities

https://news.yahoo.com/postal-workers-sounding-alarm-mail-203218629.html

USPS warned 46 states that it can't guarantee that all mail-in-ballots would arrive on time to be counted

https://www.businessinsider.com/usps-warned-states-mail-ballots-may-not-arrive-time-2020-8


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We all love that you peddle in these fallacies. It's very cute. Why not head over and try to defend Qanon too?


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They keep ignoring that several states have had successful mail in voting for years and just wish to keep furthering a false conspiracy theory.


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They keep ignoring that several states have had successful mail in voting for years and just wish to keep furthering a false conspiracy theory.


Yes, I am in one of those states.


But I will also say, that in the past 5-8 years I have noticed a steady decline of the blue mail box drop-offs. I presumed because UPS and FedEx post office store are in almost every other shopping plaza, so the boxes are an upkeep issue, so they have slowly done away with them like phone booths.


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I certainly can understand removing boxes that get very little use. What I do find odd is the timing of it all. They know there will be a huge influx of mail coming over the next few months. From what I have seen they've actually agreed to stop eliminating them until after the election.

What troubles me far more is the elimination of mail sorting machines. This will certainly slow the sorting of mail in preparation of delivery down. The timing just seems too convenient to be coincidental.


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Manufactured liberal hysteria.

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So removing sorting machines isn't a fact? It's manufactured? Odd how you just lay down smack but won't address what's happening. But I should have come to expect that by now.


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So removing sorting machines isn't a fact? It's manufactured? Odd how you just lay down smack but won't address what's happening. But I should have come to expect that by now.


Read the title of the thread. Removing sorting machines is not fascism. None of the links posted in this thread state the machines are being removed by Trumps orders. Liberals complain about right wing conspiracy theories, yet here we are witnessing liberal conspiracies in the making.


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The Post Office is broken and its financial losses are unsustainable according to the GAO.

It is Billions in debt and loses money on every delivery it makes.

Now, just when the American People need the money to pay their mortgages, rent and bills, Dem leadership wants to send those much need funds to the Post Office??? notallthere

Their agenda is more important than us???

When one looks at the evidence all around this Country today, we can easily see who the real Fascists are!

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So 40...where do you stand on Americans having medicine delayed, essential packages not being delivered, and Americans prevented from taking part in democracy due to a refusal to help the postal service?

Still waiting on you to agree to the ban from PP for the election, too!

Oh wait, you won't reply to me. You're still an oppressed white male on a message board.

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He admitted in a press briefing he was doing this. I posted links and Pitt provided even more.

This. Is. Fascism.

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Oh boy, like Eve said, "Manufactured liberal hysteria."

The Post Office isn't closing!
It will still deliver the mail and packages and meds.

But trying to push your "mail in voting" agenda on an already beleaguered system will do more to hurt those deliveries than simply getting off your butt and going to the polls!

The American People need that money! Your agenda can go suck eggs!

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Did you bother to read your links?

From one of your links:
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USPS spokesman Steve Doherty told Boston.com boxes that are rusted, in need of paint, or tagged with graffiti are brought into the service’s shop for repair, and new ones are installed to replace them.

“These trucks are on the street daily,” Doherty said in an e-mailed statement Friday evening. “They’re part of our field maintenance fleet.”


Where does that say they did it because Trump told them to?


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According to this 2019 report from the GAO, USPS is unsustainable. The last paragraph says it all....they are 42.6 billion dollars behind in retiree health and pension benefits...and that's as of 2018. Who knows what it is now. They will continue to owe the folks that will be retiring in the future. Dumping money into the USPS the way it is managed now looks like it would be foolish. They're losing twice as much as they take in, with no indication whatsoever that things are going to improve.
https://www.gao.gov/key_issues/us_postal_service_financial_viability/issue_summary

USPS financial viability continues to be high risk because USPS cannot fund its current level of services and financial obligations from its revenues. As stated in GAO’s 2019 High-Risk update, USPS faces financial challenges that include the following:

Poor financial situation: USPS’s overall financial condition is deteriorating and unsustainable. USPS has lost $69 billion over the past 11 fiscal years—including $3.9 billion in fiscal year 2018. USPS’s total unfunded liabilities and debt ($143 billion at the end of fiscal year 2018) have grown to double its annual revenue.
Insufficient cost savings: The savings from USPS cost-reduction efforts have dwindled in recent years. Although USPS has stated that it will aggressively reduce costs within its control, its plans will not achieve the kind of savings necessary to significantly reduce current operating costs.
Unfavorable trends: USPS’s expenses are now growing faster than its revenues—partly due to rising compensation and benefits costs and continuing declines in the volume of First-Class Mail.
USPS Unfunded Liabilities and Debt as a Percentage of USPS Revenue, Fiscal Years 2007 through 2018





Further, USPS has missed $48.2 billion in required payments for postal retiree health and pension benefits as of September 30, 2018. This includes $42.6 billion in missed payments for retiree health benefits since fiscal year 2010, and $5.6 billion in missed payments for pension benefits since fiscal year 2014. If USPS does not make any more payments for retiree health benefits, the fund supporting these benefits is projected by the Office of Personnel Management to be depleted in fiscal year 2030. If the fund is depleted, USPS would be required by law to make the payments necessary to cover its share of health benefits premiums for postal retirees. However, current law does not address what would happen if USPS misses those payments. Depletion of the fund, together with USPS’s potential inability to make remaining contributions, could affect postal retirees as well as USPS, customers, and other stakeholders, including the federal government.


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A thread filled of "whatabout the cost of the USPS".

Gotta love this board engaging in soviet era style propaganda techniques.

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How do most people get their mail? Certainly NOT in the blue boxes. Most everyone has a mail box of some sort.

How do people send mail currently? I have 2 options. Put it in my mailbox, and the usps person picks it up. Or, I can go to the post office and drop it off. None of that is changing.

Our town used to have about 10 of the blue post office boxes. Why? I don't know, and I guess the p.o. didn't know either because some 20 years ago, they removed all but 2 of them, which sit in the alley behind the post office. I mean, if you are dropping something off at the blue box p.o. thing, you are literally 100 feet or so from the door of the post office.

Every home/condo/apartment/business has a way of sending mail. They also have a way of receiving mail.

What's the big deal?

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They need something to be hysterical about.

"OMG! The mailboxes! The mailboxes! It's Fascism! The sky is falling!"

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
A thread filled of "whatabout the cost of the USPS".

Gotta love this board engaging in soviet era style propaganda techniques.

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
A thread filled of "whatabout the cost of the USPS".

Gotta love this board engaging in soviet era style propaganda techniques.

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...If you were trying to fix an election done by mail-in voting, wouldn't those big unmonitored boxes be the most likely place to do it?

If a home's mailbox had 50 absentee ballots stuffed in it, the postal worker would probably be suspicious. Same for at the post office, why is this one person dropping all these ballots off together?

It would seem to be a lot more plausible for a bunch of (bad) ballots to be dropped in one of those public containers.

...Oh, I see. That's why you're complaining. You want places to stuff a ton of falsified ballots without getting caught. rolleyes

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The boxes being removed as a fascist attempt to fix the election argument just seems a little weak. Focusing on the boxes seems a bit of a red herring.



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All are areas that Clinton carried in 2016.

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Why didn’t Joe Biden fix the USPS during his 47 years in office?


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