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Originally Posted By: tastybrownies
I don't see a need for a permit due to the 1st amendment right to free assembly. I don't get why anyone would need one.


You don't need a permit if you demonstrate on public property, and do not obstruct traffic or pedestrians or building entrances.

If your demonstration begins to interfere with those functions, you could be asked to disband, and failure to do so could lead to fines and/or arrest.


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Originally Posted By: tastybrownies
I don't see a need for a permit due to the 1st amendment right to free assembly. I don't get why anyone would need one.


Any time you march or gather in a public place you are blocking access to the general public. Whether that be to roads, public parks, public squares, etc... A city must allow for that and reroute traffic. They must provide officers to conduct crowd control. As such, they need advance notice and must review such events to see if they are logistically possible. They must notify the public in advance so they are prepared to make changes to their routes to and from work and other locations. That's why permits are required.

Not that people always adhere to that. But if one promotes actually keeping our laws, a permit is required.


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If you are marching in public, does a counter protest group have the right to block your ability to march?


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Do you have a permit to march?


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If you are a Nazi, you get punched in the nose. Period. Permit be damned.

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The last time this nation had a huge anti fascist movement is when American forces stormed the beaches at Normandy.


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Yep, those punks. They went out of their way to just mess with a perfectly legit ethnic cleansing... rolleyes

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WE ARE EITHER A NATION OF LAWS OR WE ARE NOT!

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please use your indoor voice.

thanks in advance.


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And the beat goes on.....








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please use your indoor voice.

thanks in advance.


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So he still provides zero evidence that any of these people belong to Antifa other than the fact he says they do. Got it.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
So he still provides zero evidence that any of these people belong to Antifa other than the fact he says they do. Got it.

Maybe we could ask them if they would please wear a [censored] uniform or something to make you happy.


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So you only provided a snarky comment and yet no evidence. Thanks!


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he's about a couple comments away from pulling a Vers announcing that he's voting for Trump.

seeing as he lives in the exact kind of suburbs that trump warmed him about with us undesirables, im sure he felt some kind of way.


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I don't think the focus should be on whether or not it's Antifa. I think the important thing is that these things are happening and that they should be stopped.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
So you only provided a snarky comment and yet no evidence. Thanks!

Yes, it's my new Perfect Spiral approach to posting.. post a snarky comment that adds nothing then I'll finish with "pfft liberals"


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
So you only provided a snarky comment and yet no evidence. Thanks!

And maybe if the city would man-up and arrest some of these pieces of crap, they could get into their social media and e-mail and stuff and find out who they represent.

If it turns out to be white supremacists, I'm no worse off because I can't stand them either... if it turns out to be Antifa, you will be hurt because you spend a tremendous amount of time defending and deflecting for them.


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he's about a couple comments away from pulling a Vers announcing that he's voting for Trump.

I'm not voting for Trump.. but I sure as hell ain't voting for Biden either.

As of right now strongly leaning toward Jo Jorgensen.. I will waste my vote but I'll still feel better about it.

I won't lift a finger, give a dollar, or cast a vote to help anybody at or near the top of either of our corrupt ass two political parties.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I don't think the focus should be on whether or not it's Antifa. I think the important thing is that these things are happening and that they should be stopped.


Once again we agree. But that doesn't stop some posters from furthering the diatribe they themselves can not substantiate.

They have decided to make unsubstantiated claims about who they wish to blame for committing them rather than how to stop the violence. From day one I've stated that all of those committing criminal acts should be caught, tried and convicted of those crimes.

But for some reason that's not enough. They're looking for some "group to blame for it". So we have seen what seems like hundreds of videos showing the violence while the person who sent out the tweets just yells "Antifa!" with no evidence to support it.

And the crowd goes wild!


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Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
if it turns out to be Antifa, you will be hurt because you spend a tremendous amount of time defending and deflecting for them.


You are turning into the kind of poster you claim not to like aren't you?

Firstly, I've never defended Antifa. I have stated that we shouldn't blame people we're not sure that are responsible. You can't just take video of a group of people and scream they belong to Antifa and there be any validity to it. That's also the kind of thing you've railed against in the past.

I've also said that this violence is coming from a multitude of people who belong to different groups from both extremes. It seems some of the more moderate ideas you've had in the past now tend to be offensive to your current train of thought.


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Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
So you only provided a snarky comment and yet no evidence. Thanks!

Yes, it's my new Perfect Spiral approach to posting.. post a snarky comment that adds nothing then I'll finish with "pfft liberals"


Then maybe I should post the way 40 does to you?


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So he still provides zero evidence that any of these people belong to Antifa other than the fact he says they do. Got it.

Maybe we could ask them if they would please wear a [censored] uniform or something to make you happy.
Like wearing a Pittsburgh Jersey in the Browns team section of a game? lol

And you don't think white supremacists agitators couldn't fake that and blend in? That's the real issue in this thread, the right does not accept the fact that other bad actors have been involved in this mess by sending in goons to perpetuate the chaos. Hell, even Trump did it in plain sight with unmarked thugs acting as a secret paramilitary group of bags over the head kidnappers. Homeland/border security officers helping local law enforcement my ass, why weren't they marked and identified immediately? And do you think attacks on white communities by these same thugs would EVER be tolerated in America?

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Meanwhile, cities burn, looting, rioting, property damage and physical harm are coming to some. And people are arguing about WHO is doing it? Not stopping it.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I don't think the focus should be on whether or not it's Antifa. I think the important thing is that these things are happening and that they should be stopped.


These things are happening because the outside agitators WANT a big ass kent style clash to stop the protests, so be careful what you wish for. I find it amazing how most of the protests have been peaceful and that they have all but subsided in most places. Only in the most progressive places are things still being stirred, as if somebody wants to somehow make those places an example of evil doings/deeds.

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Its blm or antifa cause the the dems are not emphatically denouncing it and the MSM aint reporting it. SMFH

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It may be callous, but if a group of people is rioting for 2-3 months straight, then they deserve any pain and suffering coming to them when they clash with authorities. Especially if they are third party organizations looking to propagate bedlam.

At that point they are no longer anything short of a terrorist group.


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Its blm or antifa cause the the dems are not emphatically denouncing it and the MSM aint reporting it. SMFH


Well there we have it, problem solved. rolleyes MSM is to busy covering all the Trump scandals.

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I don't care WHO it is, I want it stopped.




And I guarandamtee if it was happening at the homes of some of these people that seem ok with it happening other places, they'd change their damn tune in a second.

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It may be callous, but if a group of people is rioting for 2-3 months straight, then they deserve any pain and suffering coming to them when they clash with authorities. Especially if they are third party organizations looking to propagate bedlam.

At that point they are no longer anything short of a terrorist group.



Did anyone else at all notice that even when Trump's unmarked goons were there, none of the people actually doing the damage were arrested or identified? I mean hell, in less than 24 hours the black guy who beat the white driver was identified and is being hunted, and mostly because 'lefties' on social media identified him. Wonder why we are not seeing this kind of action on the actual people doing damage?

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Originally Posted By: Riley01
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Its blm or antifa cause the the dems are not emphatically denouncing it and the MSM aint reporting it. SMFH


It's obvious you haven't been watching. CNN has been showing it. In fact focusing on that far more than the peaceful protestors which are the vast majority of the people in the streets. Just like you do.


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Trump's America. Did you ever notice how in some Trump ads they are showing the violence on the streets claiming this is what America will look like under a Biden presidency while it's actually what's going on under the Trump presidency?


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Trump's America.


Operation Legend: More than 200 charged with federal crimes, 1,000 arrested, AG Barr announces
The operation is named for LeGend Taliferro, 4, who was shot and killed while he slept in June


At least 207 people have been charged with a federal crime, and more than 1,000 arrests have been made in major metropolitan cities since the Department of Justice launched Operation Legend in July, U.S. Attorney General William Barr announced on Wednesday.

“LeGend is a symbol of the many hundreds of innocent lives that have been taken in the recent upsurge of crime in many of our urban areas,” Barr said at a press conference in Kansas City. “His life mattered and the lives of all of those victims matter. His name should be remembered and his senseless death, like those of all the other innocent victims in this recent surge, should be unacceptable to all Americans.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-operation-legend-barr-200-federal-crimes-1000-arrests

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So CNN is MSM to you hahahaha
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And yet he shows ads of rioting and claims that will be how it will look if Biden is president when that's how it is while he is president.

And his supporters claim those who riot aren't being arrested. It sounds like you guys need to make up your minds.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Trump's America. Did you ever notice how in some Trump ads they are showing the violence on the streets claiming this is what America will look like under a Biden presidency while it's actually what's going on under the Trump presidency?


Check out Lara Loomer, GOP candidate for Florida's 21ST District. She is a real piece of work and was congratulated by Trump. I won't spoil the surprise, so do look her up (CNN works). Would this be the face of America with 4 more years of the Donald? I prefer not to believe so, but...


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Originally Posted By: bbrowns32


Check out Lara Loomer, GOP candidate


It's Laura Loomer... thumbsup Best of luck Laura!

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Check out Lara Loomer, GOP candidate


It's Laura Loomer... thumbsup Best of luck Laura!


Well, this is very telling...


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