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FDA authorizes COVID-19 plasma treatment amid Trump pressure

President Trump announced Sunday that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has authorized convalescent plasma for emergency use to treat patients sickened by the novel coronavirus.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/513312-fda-authorizes-covid-19-plasma-treatment

It won't be the end.

We've got anti-vaxxers and Christians who are testing the will of God.

All of these antivax and antimask Christians should study this passage long and hard.

Jesus answered him, "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
Matthew 4:7

I find this odd.


You aren't a believer, but your telling believers what to do?

I thought so much this FDA authorization of a treatment would help the chances the NFL could start a season, that I cast suspicion that the Billionaires involved in the NFL may have influenced it.

Go Football !

NFL positive COVID-19 tests from NJ lab could be false

The league has asked the New Jersey lab BioReference to investigate the results 'while the clubs work to confirm or rule out the positive tests.' The NFL did not identify the teams or say how many tests altogether were positive

The NFL revealed Sunday that several positive COVID-19 tests were found a day earlier by one of its testing partners. Among teams reporting false positives, the Minnesota Vikings said they had 12, the New York Jets 10, and the Chicago Bears nine.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-positive-covid-19-tests-from-nj-lab-could-be-false

So I left Christianity due to the hypocrisy. I almost became a pastor but the hypocrisy of all structures pushed me away.

So once again, I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of the “who cares if I get covid? God will protect me or I’ll go to heaven” arguments fly in the face of Jesus in the desert with Satan for 40 days.

If you want to use your logic, don’t talk about liberal policies. You obviously don’t believe in those.

You left Christianity due to hypocrisy, but you give money to the hypocritical, radical organization that is Black Lives Matter.

Okie dokie.

I proudly give money to Black Lives Matter.

Of course you do. But, that will never change your status as a "wannabe."

If you wannabe my lover, you gotta get with my friends!

Odd?........It is Jesus telling believers. you questioning the lord seems odd. But not surprising. Blasphemy runs deep in trump supporters.

Wanna be what? -pffft trump supporters ...hiding behind trump lies like munchkins in OZ.

It’s just another hoax to get trump!!!

It’s just the flu!!

Still less deaths than Obama with H1N1!!

It’ll go away like a miracle!!

And now:

57 percent of Republicans say coronavirus death toll is 'acceptable'

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/51...been-acceptable

Pathetic. 175k deaths in less than 7 months is ‘acceptable’.

Just more proof that those who vote gop and support trump are cult followers.

Death by the China Virus is always unacceptable.

Thank goodness we are far from the 1.7-2.2 MILLION Deaths that the scientists had originally predicted.

...if we didn't do any social distancing or lockdowns, which we did.

Pffft trump supporters don’t care about Americans. They have their marching orders ...”I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and wouldn't lose any voters, okay?”

Which trump was vehemently against.

Not to mention, 40 cents numbers are probably world wide projections and this isn’t over by a long shot. And american deaths are on trumps watch. Every single one. Just like fallen soldiers in a war. On trump’s watch. A real war time president takes responsibility for it all.

Using Predictions to lessen the blow of nearly a half million American deaths is what trump supporters must do. It’s all they have. They can’t defend this guy anymore so the use fake made up numbers and conspiracy theories claiming he’s being railroaded out of office and such. Lol

Quoting the last great American president “The buck stops here”. Harry Truman.

Your boy Biden said closing the borders to China was Xenophobic.

Trump saved lives with that move.

Biden was probably just confused.

Quoting the last great American president.... Harry Truman

Truman was followed by Eisenhower (Republican) then Kennedy (Democrat). Just say'in

Yeah I know...Truman was Kennedy’s and Eisenhower’s commander in chief who ended WW2. Just saying. And party affiliations weren’t cult like until trump and his supporters came along ...IMO Truman was the last of the great American presidents.

I just think that it is pretty hard to argue that Eisenhower and Kennedy weren't great Presidents. JMO

Why didn’t trump close the borders to Europe and other countries reporting outbreaks at the same time if it wasn’t Xenophobic? That would have saved more lives as well.

Not as great as Harry...Not at all. Make your point.

Eisenhower - "he strengthened the Social Security program, increased the minimum wage and created the Department of Health, Education and Welfare. In 1956, Eisenhower created the Interstate Highway System, the single largest public works program in U.S. history, which would construct 41,000 miles of roads across the country."

https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/dwight-d-eisenhower

Kennedy - Kennedy oversaw the launch of the Peace Corps. And his handling of the Cuba missile crisis was something that many Presidents would have failed at. If you haven't seen the movie "Thirteen Days" I highly recommend it.

Hmmmm...so you admit that prohibiting travel from China saved American lives (bolded above) but do you know that Biden would not have done that?

Trump closed travel from China because that is where the virus came from. It's not hard to understand...or it shouldn't be anyway. I used to believe that people understood that simple fact...but many do not.

The virus has spread throughout the entire planet...but some TDS sufferers appear to think the virus has only come to America.

TDS is a real thing.

Not sure why you are responding to me.

I didn't say anything about Biden, or borders? I said that you are misquoting the scientists, which you are...

Yes you are right.

Maybe you should check your data... You blindly believe what Trump says... But that Plasma had already been given to over 70,000 people with no proof that it has any real effect on Covid..

But here comes Trump to the rescue.. well, really not, we were already using this stuff.

and you applaud him for actually doing nothing...NOTHING...

FDA approved for emergency use there bucky!

Trumps "Right to Try" order also will open up other treatments that are looking promising.

Yeah So Bucky was right...trump got applause from his supporters for doing nothing at all....NOTHING.

Wrong again there fella.

FDA was doing nothing, Trump called them Deep State, FDA approves drug 2 days later.

"If they can't see the light, then they will feel the heat!"
-Trump

Another piece to this puzzle;

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-...rs-say-n1237840


Hong Kong man was reinfected by the coronavirus, researchers say
The finding suggests that some patients who recover from COVID-19 may have only short-lived immunity from reinfection.

Aug. 24, 2020, 10:08 AM EDT
By Denise Chow

A man in Hong Kong has become the first confirmed patient to be infected with the coronavirus a second time, according to researchers at the University of Hong Kong.

The finding suggests that some patients who recover from COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, may have only short-lived immunity from reinfection. The case will likely also be significant for scientists who have been working on treatments using antibodies from recovered coronavirus patients, and those who have been scrambling to develop a safe and effective vaccine, though it’s too soon to draw any firm conclusions.

But the research is not necessarily cause for panic. Reinfection is common with other coronaviruses. Akiko Iwasaki, a professor of immunobiology at Yale University, tweeted shortly after the study was released that the study did not show anything unexpected.

"This is no cause for alarm - this is a textbook example of how immunity should work," she wrote.


The 33-year-old man in Hong Kong developed mild symptoms in late March when he was first diagnosed with COVID-19, the researchers at the University of Hong Kong wrote in a study that has been accepted for publication by the medical journal Clinical Infectious Diseases. The patient was hospitalized March 29, but his symptoms subsided and he was discharged April 14, according to the study.

The second infection occurred more than four months later, reportedly after the man returned to Hong Kong from Spain, via the United Kingdom. The patient tested positive on Aug. 15 and was hospitalized but remains asymptomatic, according to the study. The second infection appears to be a slightly different virus strain from the initial one, the researchers said.

Microbiologist Brendan Wren, a professor at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine in the U.K., called the reinfection a “rare example” and said it’s not unusual to find different virus strains as the pandemic evolves.

“It is to be expected that the virus will naturally mutate over time,” he said in a statement.

Here is a study of 35,322 patients who have received convalescent plasma therapy in the US between April 4 and July 4. So the numbers are at least that big (and likely much bigger by now).

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.12.20169359v1

Thank you for Proving me right "Bucky" Like I said, it was already in use when the Orange Do Da decided to take credit..

I can't believe you are buying his crap....Gees

You don't get it, D.

He's not buying the crap- he's being paid to sell it to us!

57 % of republicans say the death toll is acceptable?

Well I said from the start, that whatever the toll the shutdown of restauarants and salons, and the like was wrong, (now at some point I see enough to get on board shutting down major crowds,
But I think that time is over, its pretty easy to see, institutions can instill social distancing and masks and plexiglass barriers, enough to the point 20,000 to 30,000 people should be able to attend football in a 60-100 thousand seat stadium.

And from the start I sort of figured if the USA gets out of this with less than 3.5 million dead, then it's a Win, against the virus.

For the shutdown? At this point, there is no place that a shutdown is going to keep the virus from spreading there.
It's already in every corner of the world and society so it's not like they can say, well if we shut down then the whole state of Kansas or whatever won't have to be exposed and will be safe from it.

What will be the economic fallout for shutting down not only football, but all sports, and college level, and then shutting down all the in person restaurants, and other small businesses all across the land.

Lets run some numbers,
Everytihng that was shut down, lets look at one tiny bit of it,
ok, lets look at a smaller bit,
ok, lets consider these numbers...
We're constantly told football, doesn't rely on the ticket sales to the level they rely on the television advertising and such, so the advertising must be a big number

because I chose to look at only one number.
Ok, so the Big 10, .. and pac 10 and now big east won't have footballs,

So how about one number, what is the average ticket price for the Ohio State vs. Michigan game.

Ah, we all know the stadiums hold 100K plus, 106,000,114,000, and I'll give ya, OSU v Michigan is the most popular game,
but it's still only one game,

Google, $985. 985 dollars is the average ticket price for a seat at an OSU vs. Michigan game.

um kay, so (so what is that a million, 2 million, I'm thinking)

Right around 98.5 million for ONE GAME!
That's a lot of "Big Mac's" economists, sure the economy will be fine.
fallout? What fallout?

Both of those things help bring it to an end, actually. They actually help accelerate it.