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I've lived half my life in the USA and half in England. England has politics way left of the US - so it's hard not to lean that way, if for nothing else than a National Healthcare system. It is beyond crazy that the number 1 cause of (personal) bankruptcy in the USA is poor health / healthcare costs and that's regardless of how well individuals prepare and insure themselves. It boggles the mind that the richest nation in earths history doesn't view healthcare as a basic human right like the the other industrialized/1st world nations on earth ...

Anyway - regards welfare and "freebies": [1] Personally I don't think most people want the freebies. They want a better life and will work hard for it given the opportunity. [2] I always ask people that don't believe that if they would be satisfied living below the poverty line but not having to work for it ... they always say no, they want more. I don't understand the obsession with the abusers and freeloaders and worst section of society and assuming others don't have the same base desire and willingness to work as themselves. [3] Long term cost to the State/Nation - it's cheaper and less expensive to lift up those in need than to let them rot at the bottom and turn to crime and drugs ... the (way more) socialist countries in Europe demonstrate that year after year. . . . personally I have no issue providing help tied to things like drug testing etc.

Just my opinion. Politicians and Politics probably gets in the way of most commons sense solutions.


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I'm voting for Trump not because I support him, but because I think the Dems are off their rocker and will hurt my family more than Trump will.

Go ahead and continue to bash me. Whatever...it's just another nail in the coffin on how I feel about Dems.



I haven't even started bashing you so it's hard to continue.

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Statistically people vote for who they think will help them personally more so than what they think is right for the country. That's true going back decades....


I have no problem admitting my wife and I combined don't make 6 digits. My son alone makes about 30,000 more than us. He has a good job that he likes. I have a great job that I love - it just isn't the income producer most seek.

Money isn't the end all be all. Good friend of mine - great friend, really, brings in 120,000, and his wife about 40,000. They constantly complain about being poor. (making payments on both of their student loans, payments on 4 vehicles, payments on the pool they just put in, and now soon payments on an addition to their house)

Payment heaven.

I know people making under 40,000 that have raised families, own their home, and do just fine. Always dressed nice, etc.

Money isn't about happiness. Happiness isn't about money to a large degree. Gotta be able to live and eat of course.

Multi millionaire relative - he's as happy as I am, and has fewer friends - TRUE friends, that is. Lotta people like him for his money though. If you saw he and I a Browns game, you'd know what I'm talking about. He'd be the one showing up in his 40' rv, and having a chef cook for him.

Another friend - wealthy beyond belief. His house and property is probably worth 4-5 times what my wife and I's house and all assets are worth. Plus they have race horses, a place at the lake - awesome place...........if he and I showed up at a tailgate, you would NEVER guess he had money. He'd be the first helping out, be it setting up, or tearing down. No airs about that dude, what so ever.

Money isn't bad. Money isn't good. People are, though.

D's and R's both have money, and both have poor people. To insinuate that only wealthy people support Trump is wrong.

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Thanks for sharing. I didn't say and didn't mean to imply only rich people vote for Trump or the GOP.


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This is an example of the kind of post I love to read.


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Money isn't bad. Money isn't good. People are, though.



My take: money is a tool. How one uses that tool tells us about the craftsman- and the work he values.


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All these right wing losers are the same so might as well post it here:

InfoWars Reporter Hailed As a Deep State Victim. The Cops Say She Just Robbed Her Mom.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/infowars-reporter-hailed-deep-state-082759631.html

Lmfao. That’s all I could do. Laugh. Just read the article.

These right wing psychopaths are something else. “I was jogging.” Lmfaoooo


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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All these leftie loonies are the same so I might as well post it here.

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A 19-year-old who admitted to blackmail, revenge porn, and bullying won his primary race for the Kansas House and is now running unopposed

Rachel E. Greenspan
Aug 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

A 19-year-old who admitted to blackmailing a girl with naked pictures and harassing and bullying others has won his primary race for the Kansas House of Representatives. Aaron Coleman, a progressive Democrat, is now running unopposed in the state's November election.

Coleman admitted to the allegations of "bullying, revenge porn, and blackmail" in a June Facebook post, writing that these were the actions of a "sick and troubled" 14-year-old. He also said he was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder at age 15 because he was put "in a closet" throughout elementary school.

Wyandotte County Election Commissioner Bruce Newby said on Monday that Coleman defeated incumbent Rep. Stan Frownfelter by 14 votes, according to KSHB Kansas City. There is currently no Republican challenger, making Coleman the sole candidate on November's ballot, KSHB reported.

In an August 13 article, the editorial board of The Kansas City Star detailed the allegations against Coleman. One woman told the paper that when she and Coleman were both in middle school, he obtained a naked picture of her and threatened to share it with others if she didn't send more. When she said no, the woman alleged that Coleman sent the photo to "everyone" she knew. "I don't know how he got the picture. All I know is he's an awful person and he should not be allowed to run for anything," she told The Star.

Revenge porn, or the "unlawful dissemination of consensually taken images in blackmail and breach of privacy," became illegal in Kansas in 2016.

Another woman said that Coleman called her a "whale" and used expletives to insult her. That woman, who is now 18, told The Star that she attempted suicide as a result of his harassment.

Coleman told the Associated Press that these claims were "accurate."

"I made serious mistakes in middle school and I deeply regret and apologize for them. I've grown up a great deal since then," Coleman told The Star of his actions five years ago.

But Coleman's trouble wasn't just in middle school. He recently said on Facebook that he would "laugh and giggle" if John Whitmer, a Republican who previously served in the Kansas House, died of COVID-19, The Daily Dot reported.

A spokesperson for Kansas Gov. Laura Kelly, also a Democrat, told the Associated Press that Coleman is "not fit to serve in the Legislature."

Insider has reached out to Coleman and Wyandotte County election office for comment.

https://www.insider.com/aaron-coleman-democrat-revenge-porn-kansas-house-election-2020-8


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I love how people copy my comments. It’s fun living rent free in everyone’s head. Like Obama does trump.


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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I love how some people feel they are being complimented when someone shows just how freaking ridiculous they sound.

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the problem is that you're not effective at it.

like, at all. but i expect zero effectiveness from a MAGA hatter like you so oh well.

please continue supporting your new confederate POTUS. can't wait to see Vers standing side by side with racist by a confederate statue lmfao


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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Effective enough to trigger you midget mind.

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What was that? I don’t speak the racist MAGA language.

Somebody translate Vers’s post for me.


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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Be cool bro, he's against name calling, remember?

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Ben Sasse Says Trump’s QAnon Remarks Will Be Partly to Blame if Dems Retake Senate

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ben-sasse-says-trump-qanon-125039483.html

Can’t whine about the left when conservatives are also bigly concerned over Q.


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The Black Lives Matter Movement is the Enemy of African Americans

By LESLIE TAHA


TACOMA, WA — June 20, 2020 — The first thing that I have to say is that I am an African American man living in the Minneapolis area. I have to state this now; otherwise I would probably be called a racist.

Most people think that Black Lives Matter is a grass-roots, black created, black run organization dedicated to fighting racism. It most certainly is not. The Black Lives Matter movement is the creation of a group of a few very wealthy individuals, non-profit corporations, and the corporate media (incidentally, 90% of the U.S. media is controlled by only six corporations)

https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6

On the official Black Lives Matter website, BlackLivesMatter.com https://blacklivesmatter.com/ it states that Black Lives Matter is a global network foundation that is active in the U.S., U.K., and Canada. A global network!

Who funds Black Lives Matter? It’s funded by billionaires George Soros (Open Society Foundation), Rob McKay (Taco Bell heir), the Ford Foundation, the Borealis Philanthropy, the Democracy Alliance, and many others. Not exactly what I would call a black run grass-roots organization. If these facts alone don’t cause you to rethink the whole Black Lives Matter thing, then you just aren’t paying attention. (Check out the links below)

https://www.influencewatch.org/movement/black-lives-matter/

http://bmafunders.org/who-is-funding-black-lives-matter/

Black Lives Matter began in 2013 when the media suddenly started focusing a tremendous amount of attention on what they portrayed as the rise of unjustified, racially motivated killings of African American men by white police officers. That’s the way that the media portrayed it, but the facts say otherwise.

Are police shootings of African American men on the rise? No they are not. In fact they are on the decline. According to the Juvenile and Criminal Justice Report, the rate of police killings of African Americans has fallen by 70% over the last 40-50 years. http://www.cjcj.org/news/8113

Are white racist police the biggest murderers of African Americans? No, far from it. The Black Lives Matter / media cabal is demonizing the police and portraying them as our number one foe, – the enemy, but the facts once again say otherwise.

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Report, 2,925 African Americans were murdered in 2018. 89% of them (2,600) were murdered by other African Americans.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/201...ta-table-6.xls. That same year 209 African Americans (7%) were killed by the police (justified or otherwise).

So let’s do the math here. 2,600 African Americans killed by other African Americans and 209 killed by the police (justified or otherwise). So who is killing African Americans? Other African Americans. But who does the media put all of their focus on? The “white racist” police.

So here is the big question, seeing that these are the clear facts why is the media twisting the truth? Why are they pushing the false narrative that racism is rampant, (didn’t we just have an African American president for eight years)? Why are they spreading this lie that racially motivated police shootings are up. Why are they spreading this lie world-wide causing racial divisions, protest, rioting, looting, burning, destruction and death? This global cabal has a secret agenda and African Americans are just being used as pawns in their world-wide game.

This media produced false narrative reached its pinnacle with the death of George Floyd. The media has practically deified him. He’s in nationwide TV commercials, online ads, public service announcements, he’s on billboards (we are talking millions of dollars in advertising. Who’s paying for this?). His image is graffitied on buildings, businesses and walls from coast to coast, he’s on national magazine covers, and this list goes on and on. Hundreds attended his memorial service and funeral which included Al Sharpton (surprise!), The Governor of Minnesota, the mayor of Minneapolis, and many big name celebrities.

So who is this George Floyd? Is he some great civil rights leader like Martin Luther King or Nelson Mandela? No, – he was a violent career criminal with a long criminal record.

George Floyd was released from prison in Houston Texas in 2014 following an arrest for aggravated robbery. He had been in jail at least five other times. His arrest record included theft, drug possession, and criminal trespass. He was also the leader of a home invasion ring. They entered a woman’s home and Floyd threatened to kill her by pointing a gun at her stomach while they ransacked the place looking for drugs and money. (Check out the link to his criminal record)

https://greatgameindia.com/george-floyd-criminal/

Nice guy huh. And this is the one that the Black Lives Matter / media cabal is using as their international poster boy. A violent career criminal. Well at least you can’t say that they don’t have a sense of humor.

On May 20th 2020 Floyd was arrested again for trying to pass a counterfeit $20 bill at a Minneapolis grocery store. This was the event that supposedly set off this insane world-wide media storm. As we know, Floyd died while in police custody and the four officers involved were all immediately fired and charged with murder and aiding and abetting murder. This was done before any investigation has been done, and before the cause of death was even established.

The main officer involved, Derrick Chauvin was immediately tried, convicted, and hung. Not by a jury, but by the media. The media has so thoroughly convicted him that it is considered blasphemy of the highest order to even hint that he should be considered, “innocent until proven guilty”. The media has proclaimed it murder. Case closed!

Well once again I hate to spoil the show by introducing more facts into this media circus of lies, but here it goes.

According to the official Hennepin County Medical Examiner (not the private “examiner” paid for by the Floyd family legal team), George Floyd did not die from traumatic asphyxia or strangulation. The report stated that he died from a heart attack and the heart attack was a result of several factors. He had the narcotic Fentanyl in his system (which is 50 times more potent than heroin and the same drug that killed Prince), and he also had methamphetamines in his system. He also suffered from severe arteriosclerotic heart disease, and hypertension. All of that combined with his struggle with the police as they tried to subdue him is what caused him to go into cardiopulmonary arrest. Not just the fact that officer Chauvin had his knee on his neck. George Floyd received emergency medical care in the field, but he could not be resuscitated. Does that sound like murder to you? Read the report for yourself.

https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepin...-3700_Floyd.pdf

Also the knee on the neck (neck restraint) maneuver was not something that the Minneapolis police reserved for use only on black people. They have used it over 200 times since 2015 on anyone they needed to subdue of all colors, white, black, brown, or whatever, and no one has ever died from it. So why are the Black Lives Matter Network / media cabal screaming at the top of their lungs that this was racism? A racially motivated murder!

The Black Lives Matter Network / media cabal is not what it makes itself out to be. It is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. They pretend to be the liberal friends of African Americans, but in reality they are their mortal enemies. The policies that they so aggressively push cause nothing but more damage to the African American community.

Under the guise of eliminating racism they push a policy to “Defund the Police”. This is right on the front of the Black Lives Matter website.

Under the guise of eliminating racism they push a policy that they call, “Stop The Mass Incarcerations”. This is a policy that promotes the release of prison inmates before their time is up and putting them back on the street.

Under the guise of eliminating racism they push for the decriminalization of drugs offenses, and the immediate pardon of all drug offenses with reparations paid to those convicted of drug offenses.

So sum this up. In the African American community where there is the highest crime rate and the biggest problems with drug abuse, they push to release the inmates from prison and put them back on the streets, let drug use and drug dealing run wild, and then take away the police. What do you think the outcome of these policies will produce? More crime and drug abuse in the African American community. High crime and drug areas minus police equals hell, – easy math. Policies that promote more crime and drug abuse in the black community are what I call anti-black policies. These guys make the KKK (Ku Klux Klan) look like angels by comparison.

The “liberal” media cabal (news, TV, movies, music, publications) who now are pretending to care so much about racism and black people have for decades pushed ideas that are very damaging to the African American community. They have promoted criminal sensibilities, thug life, promiscuity, and immorality to the African American community by way of their promotion of the worst aspects of rap / hip-hop culture. They’ve been actively promoting the very things that feed our problems. Like feeding poison to a sick man.

Here is a very timely quote from Malcolm X: “The worst enemy that the Negro have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn’t taken, tricked or deceived by the white liberal, then Negros would get together and solve our own problems.”

What we are seeing happening in the world right now under the guise of “eliminating racism”, – the destabilization of society, the protest, rioting, looting, burning, and killing are not spontaneous, grass-roots events. It’s all thoroughly coordinated by those at the top of the Black Lives Matter / medial cabal. They are indeed the enemy of African Americans, but they are actually the enemy of us all. African Americans are just being used as cannon fodder in their game of global domination.





Leslie Taha is an African American writer, author, artist, and former guest columnist for the Tacoma Tribune. He is the author of the book, “The Architects of Rap” and he runs the website, “NewAfricaRadio.com”. Direct email to Les Taha: lestaha@gmail.com

https://www.yonkerstribune.com/2020/06/t...-by-leslie-taha


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What the hell are you talking about? You may wish to check. I think you're confusing me with someone else.


My reply was to Swish. Check again.

I didn't read the rest of your post because you must have been triggered.

I will say once again that you guys sure seem to go to great lengths to not allow us to have a discussion about the demands from the political organization that is called Black Lives Matter.



Had you bothered to read it, you would have seen that I realized it was intended to Swish and I apologized for the mistake. Despite your claim, my entire post was a logical one and not one attacking you.

But this seems to be more of your M.O. these days. Supporting a man dividing this nation more than any president in our lifetime while claiming to want unity. It makes zero sense.


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All these leftie loonies are the same so I might as well post it here.

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A 19-year-old who admitted to blackmail, revenge porn, and bullying won his primary race for the Kansas House and is now running unopposed

Rachel E. Greenspan
Aug 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

A 19-year-old who admitted to blackmailing a girl with naked pictures and harassing and bullying others has won his primary race for the Kansas House of Representatives. Aaron Coleman, a progressive Democrat, is now running unopposed in the state's November election.

Coleman admitted to the allegations of "bullying, revenge porn, and blackmail" in a June Facebook post, writing that these were the actions of a "sick and troubled" 14-year-old. He also said he was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder at age 15 because he was put "in a closet" throughout elementary school.

Wyandotte County Election Commissioner Bruce Newby said on Monday that Coleman defeated incumbent Rep. Stan Frownfelter by 14 votes, according to KSHB Kansas City. There is currently no Republican challenger, making Coleman the sole candidate on November's ballot, KSHB reported.

In an August 13 article, the editorial board of The Kansas City Star detailed the allegations against Coleman. One woman told the paper that when she and Coleman were both in middle school, he obtained a naked picture of her and threatened to share it with others if she didn't send more. When she said no, the woman alleged that Coleman sent the photo to "everyone" she knew. "I don't know how he got the picture. All I know is he's an awful person and he should not be allowed to run for anything," she told The Star.

Revenge porn, or the "unlawful dissemination of consensually taken images in blackmail and breach of privacy," became illegal in Kansas in 2016.

Another woman said that Coleman called her a "whale" and used expletives to insult her. That woman, who is now 18, told The Star that she attempted suicide as a result of his harassment.

Coleman told the Associated Press that these claims were "accurate."

"I made serious mistakes in middle school and I deeply regret and apologize for them. I've grown up a great deal since then," Coleman told The Star of his actions five years ago.

But Coleman's trouble wasn't just in middle school. He recently said on Facebook that he would "laugh and giggle" if John Whitmer, a Republican who previously served in the Kansas House, died of COVID-19, The Daily Dot reported.

A spokesperson for Kansas Gov. Laura Kelly, also a Democrat, told the Associated Press that Coleman is "not fit to serve in the Legislature."

Insider has reached out to Coleman and Wyandotte County election office for comment.

https://www.insider.com/aaron-coleman-democrat-revenge-porn-kansas-house-election-2020-8



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i gotta say though, damn man i wish my side came up with some dope ass names with our craziness.

Qanon just sounds good when you say it out loud. like on some secret society stuff...


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Jeb Bush condemns Trump's QAnon comments: 'Nut jobs, racists, haters have no place in either party'

https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...sts-haters-have

It's like I've been saying. Some people love an imported beer. Some love a great IP. Some have their favorite brand.

But once you buy one of those bottles of beers from a store shelf that is past its date. One of those nasty, skunky tasting beers?

Even a Busch sounds good.


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Karl Rove said the same thing (was that posted already? Not sure).


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'Is that such a bad thing?': Trump willing to help QAnon conspiracy theorists 'save the world' from cannibals and paedophiles

Donald Trump gave new hope to QAnon conspiracy theorists who believe he is waging a secret war against a deep state of paedophile cannibals by saying that he would be willing to help them "save the world".

Asked at his daily press conference what he thinks about the QAnon movement, the president said he didn’t know much about it other than they “like him very much, which I appreciate”.

At the crux of the theory is a belief that the president is secretly working to save the world from a satanic cult of paedophiles and cannibals. When asked if that was something he was behind, Mr Trump said he was willing to put himself “out there” to help.

“Well I haven’t heard that, but is that supposed to be a bad thing or a good thing? You know, if I can help save the world from some problems, I’m willing to do it, I’m willing to put myself out there,” Mr Trump said.

“And we are actually, we’re saving the world from a radical left philosophy that will destroy this country, and when this country is gone the rest of the world would follow.”

The Biden campaign said Mr Trump's response to QAnon was another example of the president "giving voice to violence".

"After calling neo-Nazis and white supremacists in Charlottesville 'fine people' and tear gassing peaceful protesters following the murder of George Floyd, Donald Trump just sought to legitimize a conspiracy theory that the FBI has identified as a domestic terrorism threat," Biden campaign spokesperson, Andrew Bates, said in a statement.

The pro-Trump supporters of the QAnon theory have continued to grow since he was elected president, and often attend his rallies wearing "Q" shirts.

The first time Mr Trump was asked about QAnon during a White House press conference last week, he refused to address the conspiracy directly. When asked about one of the theory's proponent's, Marjorie Taylor Greene, who won the Republican primary for Georgia's 14th Congressional district, Mr Trump congratulated her but moved on quickly to the next question.

When asked again on Wednesday, the president said that while he doesn't know much about the movement, he does know they are people that love the country and don't like seeing it the way it is.

"I have heard that it is gaining in popularity and from what I hear, these are people that when they watch the streets of Portland when they watch what happened in New York City in just the last six or seven months, but this was starting even four years ago when I came here," he said.

"These are people that don't like seeing what's going on in places like Portland and places like Chicago, and New York and other cities and states."

Mr Trump's 2016 Republican primary opponent, Jeb Bush, was also quick to denounce the president for his apparent embrace of the conspiracy theory.

"Why in the world would the President not kick Q'anon supporters' butts? Nut jobs, rascists, haters have no place in either Party," Mr Bush said in a tweet.

Adherents to the conspiracy theory believe a mysterious but anonymous figure known as "Q" leaves cryptic but often prophetic messages on websites such as 4chan. Different theories contend that Q is a former intelligence officer, a group of people or perhaps even Mr Trump himself.

It has increasingly come into the mainstream during the course of Mr Trump's presidency, with several Republican candidates identifying themselves with it.

QAnon is linked to the notorious Pizzagate conspiracy, which claimed that Hillary Clinton and others were running a paedophile ring from the basement of a DC restaurant.

In 2016 a heavily armed North Carolina man drove to the restaurant to free the children he believed were trapped there and opened fire. However, the restaurant had no basement and there were no children. The gunman, Edgar Maddison Welch, was sentenced to four years in jail. He apologised for his actions and said he had made an "incredibly ill-advised decision".

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GOP Rep. Liz Cheney calls QAnon "dangerous lunacy"

https://www.axios.com/liz-cheney-qanon-r...tm_content=1100

Some of them still have a spine.


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but i thought this was just leftist hysteria!!!


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Interesting:

Qantas denies it's part of flying conspiracy after disturbing Freemason and new world order symbols are spotted on the engines of a national carrier plane

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Yeah Q is crazy but have you heard about the conspiracy theory that the President of the united states is controlled by the Kremlin? It's not nearly as fringe as Q and they write books, speak freely on virtually all media and even produce feature films.

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I heard a crazy one that Obama was born in Kenya and was a Muslim too. Only the current president was the one spreading those lies. Murica!


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I've heard that one, it's a good one. I have also heard Q speak about an elite pedophile ring in which active government officials protect and empower pedophile ring leaders....in 2015. Absolutely and entirely debunked by the media as a total fabrication in the pizza gate scandal during the recent Clinton campaign. What a load of crap....

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It gets scary when they elect someone as president who promotes such crazy conspiracies.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
It gets scary when they elect someone as president who promotes such crazy conspiracies.


While I absolutely agree that Trump has no business engaging in that nonsense...it's peanuts, Truman nuked the Japs when they were defeated, claimed it the end of the war that was already over when it was about trying to scare the Russians.

Nearly every President right up until the Iraq war ran on wild conspiracy theories about the red scare, despite de-classified proof that both Putin and Gorbachev were pushing for peace among the big 3. WMD is a conspiracy theory perpetuated by both parties. That a sitting President colluded with Russia to steal an election is a conspiracy theory. (the irony of which is that Democrats had until now FDR mostly had tried to make peace with the USSR).

Those are real conspiracy theories.


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"The broad narrative in QAnon is that the world is controlled by a satanic cabal of child-eating pedophiles. And they believe that this cabal is made up of politicians (mostly Democrats), Hollywood entertainers and the mainstream media," Travis View, a conspiracy theory researcher who participates in a podcast on QAnon theories, told CNN.


All of those make this one, especially in the confessions of Victims, under oath, pictured with Bill Clinton on multiple occasions, testified under oath that Bill Clinton was on the island.....at least mildly intriguing.

While the inflammatory notion of " satanic cannibalism" is shocking, you take that one phrase out and what do you have? An elite group of NWO types running a pedophile ring.....I know what a wild conspiracy theory.

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Yet the war with Japan was not over. They were a different kind of enemy. They fought to the death in all circumstances. Every model constructed indicated that using nukes would actually save casualties in the long run.

You try to make it sound as if the cold war wasn't real. News flash, it was. Russia tried to install nukes in Cuba. Revisionist history won't change any of that and I'm not a huge proponent of using nukes on Japan.

The fact is QAnon believes it's ALL Democrats and Trump is the savior. Yeah, pretty frickin crazy. And you forgot all about the "Satan worshipers" part.

Here's another part you conveniently left out. Whether you believe in those crazy theories you posted about nuking Japan and the cold war is kind of irrelevant if you consider one major factor.

Those things were done in an effort to unite the American people against a foreign power. The conspiracies Trump and many of his followers are promoting work to turn the American people against one another. Big difference. Using the divide and conquer method as a tactic to divide and spread hatred among our own people could easily be what destroys our nation from within.

That's unlike anything you tried to use as examples.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
It gets scary when they elect someone as president who promotes such crazy conspiracies.

Trump did a very similar thing with Qanon as he did with the White Supremacists, talking about them, referencing things that will appeal to them in tweets, not condoning them (although at some point he may - but by then the impact of initially not condoning them enables or legitimizes them in their eyes.

He mentioned them (which they love) he said something about them being Americans that love their country, he said he hoped to have answers for them. . . . Is there anything in there, by itself, that you could say is reprehensible? Maybe not - but it is a systematic pandering to wild crazies and hate groups that we've seen over and over. Very dangerous.


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He also suggested the reason they aren't coming up with a vaccine is because of the deep state withing the CC.

He just says so many bat crap crazy things it's hard to keep up with them all.


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I won't derail but I do not agree on Japan.

Russia gate is a FAR more pervasive and divisive conspiracy theory. It had a sitting President impeached on a LOT of questionable material. People like Adam Schiff told the American public on a REGULAR basis that he had "overwhelming evidence"

The difference in the theories there is proof, photos, eyes witnesses, victims testifying under oath for Little Saint James "Conspiracy theory". Sweeping this under the rug is dishonest. Photos of Bill Clinton getting a massage from a victim surfaced and he still spoke at the DNC. That is not to say that I believe this to be a partisan island.


Certainly there is some partisan slant from a fringe group, maybe a little, maybe a lot. Until they release the information or Ghalaine testifies there is a lot of speculation on exactly who is on the list. All I know is that the left is openly ignoring it and calling Q wild, terrorist conspiracy theorists for thinking there is some elite group of pedos, trafficking and grooming women.....when we KNOW it already happened.

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Oh, Ghaline Maxwell? The one Trump wished good luck to?

As I said, Trump supports conspiracy theories that tear our nation apart from the inside. Trying to create hate and division among our own people. Nothing you brought up compares to that.


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I won't derail but I do not agree on Japan.

Russia gate is a FAR more pervasive and divisive conspiracy theory. It had a sitting President impeached on a LOT of questionable material.

The difference in the theories there is proof, photos, eyes witnesses, victims testifying under oath for Little Saint James "Conspiracy theory". Sweeping this under the rug is dishonest. Photos of Bill Clinton getting a massage from a victim surfaced and he still spoke at the DNC. That is not to say that I believe this to be a partisan island.


Certainly there is some partisan slant from a fringe group, maybe a little, maybe a lot. Until they release the information or Ghalaine testifies there is a lot of speculation on exactly who is on the list. All I know is that the left is openly ignoring it and calling Q wild, terrorist conspiracy theorists for thinking there is some elite group of pedos, trafficking and grooming women.....when we KNOW it already happened.


No ... I think you may have your facts and scandals mixed up.

There was a ton of unprecedented communication between Trump campaign and Russian agents (either real intelligence agents or criminal agents or just high profile Russians.) .... Russia tried very hard to get Trump elected .... and the Republicans elected to instigate an investigation (lead by Mueller, a highly regarded Republican).

Mueller found lots of unprecedented communication with Russia. He found a lot of people lying. He said that it was impossible to prove the extent and intent of the communications because of the lying and coordinated testimony .... but he did nail a lot of convictions. He also laid out 11 examples of when Trump tried to interfere with the process of law - but he said it was not his decision to decide whether to prosecute for that.... Barr lied about the report to get out ahead of the story. His actions and summary to the American people was so egregious a Federal judge later made a public comment that Barr was so far out of line with regards to his comments on the Mueller report, nothing he said could be given credibility.

Then several months later - Trump tried to strong arm a partner who had been ear marked funds in order for them to defend themselves from Russia, with Trump withholding those funds (I'd say it was a result of the phone call - but that was never established ... but there was never a reason or justification for the withholding of funds either. Sometimes 0+0 does equal 0 but it wasn't proven) .... The whistle-blower blew the whistle, there was a lot of evidence of various credibility that lead to the impeachment process. . . . at the time Trump fan kept saying that no-one could provide first hand testimony about Trump's involvement and came up with crazy theories like this was all Rudy acting rougue and such .... then we had several first hand witnesses that spelled out what Trump did/said etc .... he was then Impeached. Nothing at all to do with Russia.

Congress voted basically along party lines - however a small handful of Republicans did say that what Trump did was impeachment worthy - but then they said let the voters decide in November.

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