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FINALLY it is the week of the NFL kickoff. Whatever it’s going to look like (or how long it will last) who the heck knows.

I’ll save the Browns prediction thread for Diam ... or whoever else wants to start it. This one is just for the NFL as a whole.

Here’s mine:

AFC EAST - Buffalo Bills
AFC SOUTH - Houston Texans
AFC WEST - Kansas City Chiefs
AFC NORTH - Baltimore Ravens
AFC WILDCARDS - Pittsburgh Steelers, Tennessee Titans, New England Patriots

NFC EAST - Dallas Cowboys
NFC SOUTH - New Orleans Saints
NFC WEST - San Francisco 49ers
NFC NORTH - Minnesota Vikings
NFC WILDCARDS - Green Bay Packers, Seattle Seahawks, LA Rams

AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - Kansas City Chiefs over Pittsburgh Steelers
NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - New Orleans Saints over Dallas Cowboys

SUPER BOWL - Kansas City Chiefs over New Orleans Saints


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I think the Steelers are going to disappoint this year, 7-9 or 8-8.

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AFC EAST - Buffalo Bills
AFC SOUTH - Tennessee Titans
AFC WEST - Kansas City Chiefs
AFC NORTH - Baltimore Ravens
AFC WILDCARDS - Cleveland Browns, Houston Texans, Pittsburgh Steelers

NFC EAST - Philadelphia Eagles
NFC SOUTH - New Orleans Saints
NFC WEST - San Francisco 49ers
NFC NORTH - Minnesota Vikings
NFC WILDCARDS - Seattle Seahawks, Dallas Cowboys, Tampa Bay Bucs

AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - Kansas City Chiefs over Baltimore Ravens
NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - Minnesota Vikings over Seattle Seahawks

SUPER BOWL - Kansas City Chiefs over Minnesota Vikings

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Doesn't matter. We won't be there.

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Let's see.

AFC EAST - Buffalo Bills
AFC SOUTH - Tennessee Titans
AFC WEST - Kansas City Chiefs
AFC NORTH - Pittsburgh Steelers
AFC WILDCARDS - New England Patriots, Baltimore Ravens, Houston Texans

NFC EAST - Dallas Cowboys
NFC SOUTH - New Orleans Saints
NFC WEST - San Francisco 49ers
NFC NORTH - Minnesota Vikings
NFC WILDCARDS - Green Bay Packers, Seattle Seahawks, Carolina Panthers

AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - Kansas City Chiefs over Pittsburgh Steelers
NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - New Orleans Saints over San Francisco 49ers

SUPER BOWL - Kansas City Chiefs over New Orleans Saints


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So there is an extra wild card, what is it just one team with a bye this year?


Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
So there is an extra wild card, what is it just one team with a bye this year?
yeah, each conferenced has 7 teams now .. 1 bye for AFC and NFC


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Well, we have played pretty well in our bye week games. I like our chances. P-borg may well disappoint. We may surprise. Rats may not be as invincible this year as media seems to think. I want us to break their hearts some this year.

We find a way to be in it.


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AFC EAST - New England
AFC SOUTH - Tennessee
AFC WEST - Kansas City
AFC NORTH - Baltimore
AFC WILDCARDS - Pittsburgh [provided Ben stays healthy,] Buffalo, Indy

NFC EAST - Dallas
NFC SOUTH - New Orleans
NFC WEST - San Francisco 49ers
NFC NORTH - Minnesota
NFC WILDCARDS - Seattle, Green Bay, Tampa Bay

AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - Kansas City over Baltimore
NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - San Francisco over New Orleans

SUPER BOWL - San Fransisco over Kansas City

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AFC East - Pats

AFC South - Titans

AFC West - Kansas City

AFC North - Cleveland Browns


Wild Cards - Ravens, Colts, Bills

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NFC East - Eagles

NFC North - Packers

NFC South - Saints

NFC West - SF 49'ers


Wild Cards - Texans, Vikings, Seahawks

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AFC Championship - Chiefs over Browns
NFC Championship - Saints over Seahawks

Super Bowl - Chiefs over Saints

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AFC:

North: Browns
South: Titans
East: Buffalo
West: Chiefs

WILDCARDS:
Rats, Broncos, Patriots

NFC

North: Bears
South: Bucs
East: Philly
West: 49ers

WILDCARD:

Cowboys, Packers, Seahawks

Super Bowl:
Chiefs over Seahawks


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ESPN’s computer prediction. 7-9. I realize this isn’t the per game prediction but anyway....

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/...r-bowl-champion

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2-6 again?

Yikes, no.

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I made my picks but I want to add a footnote.


IMO there are six really good teams. They are in order:

Kansas City
New Orleans
San Francisco
Baltimore
Seattle
Green Bay

After that there are a number of teams that have the potential to challenge the top teams. They are:

Vikings
Dallas
Cleveland
Texans
Titans
Steelers


There are a few of the rest that have a outside chance. They are:

Eagles
Falcons
Pats
Bills
Tampa
Colts
Raiders(maybe)


The reality IMO is the top six are good. And the rest are all questionable.

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For some reason I'm not a believer in SF or Garrapolo.

I think they come crashing down to earth this year.

The rest of your list I agree with.

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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg


Those are very damning numbers in context with the very last number, strength of schedule.

A lot of people don't think much of the Browns this year.

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They think what most people understand. In the season of covid with limited time to practice, any team with an entire new coaching staff and installing new systems on both sides of the ball are at a distinct disadvantage.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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Yeah, we definitely have a lot piled against us. And opening at Baltimore is TOUGH ... although, at least we get it out of the way and it’s probably the toughest game on the schedule


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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They think what most people understand. In the season of covid with limited time to practice, any team with an entire new coaching staff and installing new systems on both sides of the ball are at a distinct disadvantage.


I don't think that's it. It would be the same without covid.

The Browns suck every year. As such, they should be treated as such.

I think last year was the last time people will get burnt by the Browns in the prediction business. I heard a great quote about the Browns recently ... "from now on, this is a party you want to be late to, not early".

The Browns are the Browns. They perpetually suck.

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Yeah, there's zero possibility we will ever be better no matter what we do. The roster, the coaching staff and FO will never make anything better. We are all doomed forever.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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Are you arguing with me, yourself, or someone else?


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AFC EAST - Buffalo Bills
AFC SOUTH - Houston Texans
AFC WEST - Kansas City Chiefs
AFC NORTH - Baltimore Ravens
AFC WILDCARDS - Pittsburgh Steelers, Cleveland Browns, New England Patriots

NFC EAST - Dallas Cowboys
NFC SOUTH - New Orleans Saints
NFC WEST - Seattle Seahawks
NFC NORTH - Minnesota Vikings
NFC WILDCARDS - Tampa Bay Buccaneers, SF 49ers, Philadelphia Eagles

AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - Kansas City Chiefs over Baltimore Ravens
NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - Tampa Bay Buccaneers over New Orleans Saints

SUPER BOWL - Tom Terrific wins Super Bowl defeating KC

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If Brady wins the super bowl in TB ... that would be unbelievable


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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IMO they are a well coached team.

There offense is well conceived and they execute it well.

They also play good defense.

I stand by it.

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Sorry you feel that way.

2020 has little to do with the past. Each season most teams churn close a third of their roster. So teams are not the same year after year.

If I felt as you do. I doubt I would watch them.

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Rankings and PPF grades etc. are all based upon last year.

I get that. However, IMO the Browns have to potential to be a top three offensive team.

They may not start that way because the first month of the season will act as training camp.

But once the OL begins to gel and the timing gets nailed down. They have the talent to excel.

Obviously Baker has to play well. And I believe he will.

Stefanski seems like a smart guy. They have invested in a play action pass and run game. They have the runners the TE's and a upgraded OL. In addition they will use the fullback.

Baker's numbers in play action were significantly better than any other plays.

So, I see no reason why this offense will not be good.

They will just need about a month to find a groove.

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Expect the unexpected.


There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.

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Yeah, there's zero possibility we will ever be better no matter what we do. The roster, the coaching staff and FO will never make anything better. We are all doomed forever.


I mean - that has a really good track record over the last 20 years.


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Those are very damning numbers in context with the very last number, strength of schedule.

A lot of people don't think much of the Browns this year.


I think there are several factors.

--Baker. He was horrible last year. Second in interceptions. Hard to win when you turn the ball over that much. Next Gen stats also showed that he held the ball too long and ran out of clean pockets. It's a recipe for disaster.

--Yet another HC w/absolutely zero head coaching experience.

--A culture of losing and blowing things up.

--Covid plays a part because of the new staff.

--Defense has holes, especially at LBer and safety.

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Agreed on all accounts. Plus, I don’t know how much chemistry OBJ has with our offense .. he seems to be a disruptor instead of seemingly fitting in


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I believe if we win 8 games and at least stay in contention for a playoff spot we can consider it a good season. Too many ? marks to feel otherwise. Our players have to learn another new system on both sides of the ball with little practice time. Not a good situation.

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AFC EAST - New England
AFC SOUTH - Tennessee
AFC WEST - Kansas City
AFC NORTH - Cleveland (shocker, I know)
AFC WILDCARDS - Buffalo, Baltimore, Las Vegas

NFC EAST - Philly
NFC SOUTH - New Orleans Saints
NFC WEST - San Francisco 49ers
NFC NORTH - Minnesota Vikings
NFC WILDCARDS - Tampa Bay, Seahawks, Cowboys

AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - New England over Cleveland
NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - Tampa Bay over New Orleans Saints

SUPER BOWL - New England over Tampa Bay (Bill beats Tom)


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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
that sucks .. hate to see it


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Season Prediction:

More wins than last year.
Baker proving to be a franchise QB.
Possibly off to a bad start due to pre-season limitations.


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AFC East - Dolphins

AFC South - Jaguars

AFC West - Chargers

AFC North - Bengals


Wild Cards - Raiders, Jets, Broncos

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NFC East - Football Team

NFC North - Lions

NFC South - Falcons

NFC West - Rams


Wild Cards - Giants, Panthers, Bears

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AFC Championship - Jaguars over Jets
NFC Championship - Football Team over Bears

Super Bowl - Football Team over Jaguars

Washington Football Team just keeps the name forever since they won.

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Defensively I am uncertain.

We appear to weak be in the defensive backfield in starters and depth. Safety could be a problem. I think we will play single high. So coverage?

Linebacker will be tied to scheme. I think we will bring safety and corner help.

The DL is solid not real sure about depth.

I think we are vulnerable to injury on defense because of depth.

We have still not proven we can stop good rushing teams. We better improve in that aspect or it will cost us big time.

Overall. I am in a wait and see mode on defense.

We better be prepared to spy Lamar with more than one player. Has to be a corner or safety and mix it up.

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I'll be ok with early-season struggles so long as we iron them out as we get into the middle of the season. If we struggle out of the gate and then continue to find different ways to struggle... then that means something isn't right.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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It would be dismal if this team does not improve over the year.

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