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Baker plays best with no expectations.

When the expectations increased, the competition increased and Baker couldn't meet it. Confidence and swagger and the David beating Goliath situation is now gone. Now doubt creeps in and you have to rely on skill and smarts, not guile.

Then you add the Swiss cheese that his brain has become from coach after coach, and all of the coaches being incompetent, well this is what you get.

I forgot one other thing to add to my earlier laundry list:

* Browns still haven't solved covering oppo Tight Ends. They freaking own us.

I think OBJ’s ego and attitude dictates players/coaches trying to appease him .. it also makes him our alpha ... and it’s hard to be successful when your alpha is a diva

j/c...

Not good...

DAMN. any other news on injuries?

j/c:

Does Siebert make it to Thursday?

Expanded practice squad rosters mean you could toggle between Seibert and Cody Parkey all year long. After today, I might go with Parkey vs Cinci. Missed EP's are momentum killers.

Watching the Bengals game....0-2 is not out of the realm of possibility...Burrows looking legit.

I said during the off-season that we have the fourth best QB in the division.

Heck 0-3 is a true possibility .. then 0-4, 0-5 and 0-6

Dave two thoughts. I do not think it absolves baker but your point about our receivers is right on. Lamar was throwing to wide open receivers all day. Many of bakers passes were to well covered receivers with a window about the size of a bandaid.

Second, I liked the fake punt call. We had two blockers in front of the hammer and together they could not block the one defender in the way. If they make that block he goes for 10 yds.

People overreact week one every year. We are not as bad as we played today. The Ravens are very good.

Risk vs reward at that spot on the field, down by 7, made it a bad idea, IMO.

I know Zane would!

It was about what I expected. Sadly.

I agree .... but the injury bug is killing us. 3 of the first 4 draft picks right? Better get busy picking up some replacements.

What really stinks is I'm not sure they'd be able to clear the COVID protocols and practice before Thursday's game if we do sign someone.

The Ravens will make lots of teams look bad. Unfortunately, a lot of the things today were us making ourselves look bad. Hopefully there's a lot of improvement between weeks 1 and 2. It's been known to happen, but the short week is not ideal.

That’s why there is an expanded practice squad.

Booted a 56 yarder today.

We pulled all our starters after the first series like every other preseason game, right?

Wow what a lame game. At least the loss was against what is likely going to be a solid playoff team. Had the beat down been to a bad team .... it would only be worse. Didn’t see anything special from the Browns today. Quite frankly I am not surprised at all and I felt no hope or excitement prior to the game. I guess that’s what a couple seasons of Hue Jackson and then Freddie Kitchens does. I don’t really have any thoughts on the new head coach. I’ll still be watching every week but this team will have to win games before I believe they have talent.

Didn't see the game because I'm not shelling out $300 for NFL Ticket under this Covid cloud. Sooo...I'm surprised to hear that play action, fullback, and TE activity was almost non-existent. Thought those would be staples in this offense.

Sunday ticket always free week one

I havent been on here much. . . .

My takes:

OBJ - looked disinterested in playing football. Seemed like he didnt want to be there.

Jarvis - Hes our number 1. I wish we would target him like we target OBJ.

Chubb - WTH? Seems like he got benched after the fumble. But come on man, hes our BEST player on this team, and BY FAR. He needs and should be getting 80% of the carries.

Hodge - why do now two coaching staffs seem to love this guy? He stinks. Higgins is by far better.

Hooper/Bryant - where were these dudes at?

Njoku - had a really nice game. did what he could to prove he should be the in the mix at TE on this team.

Defense - jesus, tony.

Siebert - he looks like something is in his head. Im thinking we will be having K tryouts for the Washington game ( i dont think they try to do so on a short week for the Ben-gals).

Stefanski - where was this great, two TE set offense? Where was the play action? Why are we again forcing the ball to one guy (OBJ)? His playcalling looked nothing like from Minn last year. Seems to me, maybe his success was more due to Kubiak then some may want to think. I didnt see much difference from last year on O. Bad play calling, bad designs (minus the goaline TD, that was a thing of beauty), bad decisions. I am pretty sure we threw just about every 2 and 5+). and the punt fake.......ughhhhhhh

Baker - Dude still looks lost. And dont give me the "oline" crap. They looked pretty good if you asked me, especially against this def line. He had ample time to throw. Was double clutching, looking down his receivers, and getting balls batted down left and right. High throws, behind throws, low throws. He looks exactly like the QB we saw last year. I fear he is ruined, and its time to tank for Lawrence if you ask me. Lets be honest, Baltimore and Pittsburgh are light years ahead of us, and JB might be the guy to take the Bengals past us. We have the worst QB in the division. Time to start thinking about scouting Lawrence from Clemson.

Baker definitely looks lost (and i agree the OL isn’t the issue) ... plus, he has no confidence, which was a huge reason for his success

Still too much to watch these sucks play football.

We missed JoeSho a lot today, IMO. Our LB and secondary were garbage. No effort, letting guys run freely, vacating their zones and assignments like they were afraid to catch covid. . . SMH.

I honestly don’t even know if we’ve had a worst LB corp than the one we’re fielding right now

Ingram only averaged 3.1 ypc. Dobbins 2.7. Lamar ran 7 times for 45 yards.

No pass rush and poor QB play did us in.

That and camp cupcake.

How many times did they throw to a guy wide open in the middle of the field? Watch the tape man, Taki Taki let guys right past him without even trying to knock them off their route. Name one play a LB made.

I would agree with you. I will also add our pass defense was terrible. Having Sendejo cover their top receiver was either a mistake or a colossal failure in scheme. I think it was the former. Also having Thomas in coverage was scary.

The LBs made plays. They were not the problem stopping Andrews (5 for 58 I. believe) since we had safeties covering him most of the game. Wide open WRs did the damage. Was it scheme (zone) or the fact we had bad corners playing man I’m not sure.

I wouldn’t mind if Sendejo was sent packing ... and that’s a really quick evaluation

I would ship out every guy with blond highlights.

Seriously.

Not really. here are some points made in the tweet posted above.

Watch linebacker B.J. Goodson closely. The Browns drop seven into coverage, but Goodson (93) doesn’t adjust the route of Andrews (89) at all. Instead of providing some resistance, or even nudging him, Goodson lets Andrews glide by him.

Since Andrews gets a free release, safety Karl Joseph can’t slide over in time to contest a super accurate Jackson pass.

Then on the following play, linebacker Malcolm Smith (56) appears frozen in space and corner Denzel Ward gains no depth before Brown sneaks behind them both.

On the below example, watch as Brown burns through linebacker Sione Takitaki’s inside shoulder, only to bend back outside and fry free safety Andrew Sendejo on a deep corner route.

Takitaki is either told not to bother Brown here or his eyes are stuck on the quarterback because he doesn’t even notice Brown crossing his face.

Getting open in the NFL should never be this easy.

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I would watch the videos the guy in the tweet posted with these excerpts. It really breaks down how bad the LBs were. Which was pretty bad.

I just watched Stefanski's presser.

A lot of I need to look at the tape responses.