DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2020 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 6 Ravens 38 post game

OBJ started off with good effort, blocked hard down the field the first run play. Humphrey seemed to get in his head shortly after that, though. We might need to keep a therapist on the sideline for him. I wonder if that'd be legal?

I wouldn't mind hearing OBJ is on the trading block, but I don't think we'd get much for him at this point.

Hodge did seem pretty lackadaisical the plays I noticed him. Keep him for special teams if you want, but I'd rather see Higgins get WR snaps, too.

haha if you’re reading this Coach Stefanski, please come up with a new phrase for all of us

Yes! I can't blame one WR for a loss, but Hodge was definitely a big slice of the blame for today's loss. I dunno why every coach hates Higgins. Maybe because they're going by measurables, but Higgins plays faster on gameday than he looks, and just had a knack for clutch catches.

Omg what is the deal with the radio broadcast?

I was driving home from Tampa and wanted to stream the game on my car radio.

But all of the broadcasts were blocked because "contract obligations with the nfl." What does that mean? I spent 2 hours screwing with my phone, the radio, and the Browns app.

Stop interviewing Baker Mayfield. Taking time away from social media, crappy stupid commercials, and whatever else he can do to avoid playing well. Sit him and OBJ; they earned it.

We stunk it up badly. Find Higgins. Stop dropping MG int pass coverage.

Dumb game plan apparently. What did we achieve that we were trying to do? What do you build on? Why is our kicker still here? We looked absolutely clueless. However we prepped for this game should be avoided IMO.

Thursday is coming. Maybe we can care more by then.

You didn't miss anything ; well maybe a head ache !

Thursday will be interesting... Cincy looked pretty good... I'm hoping we have a more solid game but on a short week I'm not so sure.

I see everyone blaming Baker, now, I am not saying he is not guilty of screwin the pooch here, but, what about these candy A$@ receivers that refuse to catch the ball, or give up on the play? I think OBJ should be benched or sent home for a week and give someone that actually wants to play to have a chance.

j/c:

The more things change, the more remain the same. Very tired of the Browns and their consistent changes and constant losing.

When is the last time you saw a Browns Team that looked prepared coming out of the Gate ?

The Browns owners are worse than the Bengals. That is a tough task to achieve. The odds of a team doing this bad for this long are really unbelievable. Way to beat the odds, Browns.

I'm trying to answer that, but I seriously can't remember.

2004 against the Ravens.

Garcia at QB.

Of course, it didn't last long.

Not a good day for guys with blonde dye jobs. Sendejo, OBJ, and Seibert all looked pretty awful, and then Njoku got hurt. Njoku at least looked decent before that.

Everyone is slamming Baker and the O ( CAN'T BLAME THEM )but your not going to win many games with your " D " giving up 38 points.. The offensive game plan or play calling was a head scratch-er based on what we were lead to believe .. Thursday night is going to interesting ..

A couple of guys made some plays, but in reality, the entire team sucked. They were not prepared. The HC sucked. The coordinators sucked. The discipline sucked. The fight sucked. The players sucked.

And I'm a sucker for watching and actually thinking things will be different.

do you mean in week 1? Literally never

We all are.

Bills and Bucs are my adopted teams the rest of the way.

If i am not mistaken, the first 14 or so points was because the offense gave it to them with a short field.

Also, if you offense cant stay on the field, it makes the D job a lot harder. Not making excuses for the D, just stating facts.

I dont think anyone figured we would win this game, but the fact we have an "offensive mastermind" as our HC, and he looked lost, called bad plays, and our #1 overall pick looked like he did last year, is cause for concern.

I don't think Stefanski is known as an offensive genius, but he was supposed to bring organization, calm, and discipline.

We saw none of that.

This is the result of the softest camp I've ever seen. They knew Baker needed a ton of work and have not made him a better QB.

Either their coverage was really good (it was), or Baker holds the ball too freaking long (he did).

I’m really starting to worry about baker. He’s starting to remind me of a shorter version of - albeit more accurate passer - Brandon Wheeden. Deer-in-headlights thing going in.

Once again, I hate our kicker. He truly blows. God that ticks me off, missed EP, then a missed field goal.

The OBJ drop inside the Ravens 20 was so Browns. It’s not why we lost, but then Seibert misses the field goal, Baltimore scores a TD just before half, and that’s the ball game.

I never wanted Beckham, as good as he is. He’s upset the apple cart. I can’t stand whiny little wide receivers.

We were solid for the most part in stopping the running backs, but Lamar killed us with his arm. He had open looks all day. We better shore up the back end play on D.

Short week, beat Cinci and we’ll feel better.

Maybe this game, for us, was a stepping stone, considering the off-season circumstances; A wise old veteran rocker once said that one live gig is better than three weeks of rehearsal.

It's amazing at how much Lamar has progressed as a reader of coverages and a passer from his college days. Boggles my mind.

I realize they got behind but asking Baker to throw 40 times a game is rarely going to be the key to winning football games...its not who he is.... Chubb and Hunt are your best weapons of Offense they need to be fed early and often. Pull a page from the 2019 Ravens....3 TE's 2 RB's go heavy and pound the ball...use play action and roll outs to make Bakers reads simpler. But feed those two bell cows until their legs fall off.

I would trade OBJ asap...If I can get even a 5th for him..I would take it....its only a matter of time before he gets upset...and the Browns have to many weapons to try and force the ball to him. He might still be an elite WR...but not for Cleveland. Addition by subtraction.

HACK

Agreed. OBJ is a cancer, even if he’s not vocal .. his presence dominates and dictates the chemistry. We are not going to be successful with him IMO

For what its worth, yes the kicker had a bad game, but jesus, lets give the kid a break a bit (the more i think the more calm i am about him).

We ran Zane out of town and hes playing great. Lets lets the kid settle down and see if he can bounce back. His kicks didnt cost us the game. . .

His blonde highlights did.

Can't make kicks with those.

Zane was actually 1/3 on FGs today. Just saying.

It is a little soon to pull the plug. Don't know if the lack of fans played a factor or not, just the weirdness of it. Seemed to be quite a few missed kicks today.

I thought Gonzalez was terrible when he was here and that he was injured, meaning we had almost no choice but to bring in a new kicker. I'm not positive about this one, but didn't he miss 2 of 3 today?

j/c...

Austin Hooper was a big FA acquisition this past offseason. How was he only targeted twice?

Baker was 6/8 passing to TEs and 10/20 passing to WRs.

Chubb/Hunt combined for 23 carries for 132 yards.

Does this offense know who it wants to be yet?

Hey Milk, remember that quote by Van Pelt that had something to do w/not knowing their identity or who they were?

I was thinking about that today while watching the game and your post reminded me of it.

Yuk...

The Browns were terrible on defense.

Offensively they could not decide if they wanted to be a running team or a passing team.

That OBJ drop was a Corey Coleman moment. Talk about a game changer, that was a 14 point mistake.

Again, new staff, new coordinators, new systems, no off-season program, and limited training camp ...... and then going against one of the best teams in the NFL .......

I tried to warn you guys. It's going to be tough, especially early going.

I'm thinking Butch Davis was the head coach, it's been a whole new level of sucking since 2006.

And I really didn't like Butch Davis, but who knew we'd be looking back at the glory days of Butch Davis.

Speaking of since 1999 of course.

But, In Hue's 3rd year, when the Browns assembled a bunch of coaches to take Hue's place, they finaly had a fully filled cup of coaches, yet they didn't keep barely ANY of them just some weeks later.

“Dictates the chemistry”

Nice. I like that. And I also agree with it.

OBJ did not lose that game, but you guys won't let that get in the way of your agenda.

It was very a ugly browns effort BUT I'm not going to get upset. They went against a team that won 14 last year and the QB was the NFL MVP. I'm seriously wondering what y'all expected, especially those calling for people to be benched or traded.

I hoped we would look better, I hope we would click on all cylinders and wow... BUT I expected to lose and I expected ugly. Not this ugly, but I still expected it.

The week is too short to stroke out on this loss today, I am just going to refuse being emotionally involved in this season until or unless we start winning a lot of games. Next up, the Bengals, which I consider a must win for this team at this point simply because we should beat them. GO BROWNS!

.. " Chubb/Hunt combined for 23 carries for 132 yards."

That's the stat I wanted thanks .. Someone send the Browns a copy of Lindy Infante's playbook.

That may be true but Nobody on the Browns won that game today, I'm trying to think:
Who Won that game today, on the Browns
like, the O-line, or the D-line, or, Njoku maybe?

Who won their part of the game, it's a tough one.

Who can we really trust in the back 7 of the defense?

I already said that the entire team was responsible for the loss earlier in this thread. Trying to blame one player for the loss is stupid.

I dunno, he's a supposed superstar and I think a lot of guys take their cues from his bad body language. Not to place all the blame on him, but I do think he has a negative effect on the players around him at times. I don't think Baker feels comfortable calling him out. We don't really have an alpha on offense. Baker showed it more as a rookie when he didn't have a "superstar" to defer to.

OBJ is a talented player, but he really seems to have thrown off the team's "power dynamic" since he's arrived.