so i don't really know how to respond to the 2nd half of that post, so i'll just respond to the top.
who exactly call yall hicks cause you don't travel?
most of the country doesn't travel, which most certainly includes urban residents. i know like 10 people i grew up with in cleveland who STILL aint left the state of ohio. i have literally never heard that narrative that somehow that's exclusive to "hicks."
i don't know what you rural guys get so offended. like "omg how dare the majority not want to live near farms and limited entertainment."
like bro thats just a fact of life. you ask me to pick rural kansas or NYC, i'm picking NYC every single time. i'd wager most humans would do the same.
i didn't say rural life was bad, y'all just got triggered. but its clearly not for everybody. and to pretend otherwise is....
well, its just another reason amongst a ton why yall vote for people like trump.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
They first asked people whether there were riots in their city, and whether those riots were "violent". Two-thirds of the people in the city who identified the protests in their city as "violent riots" support Trump.
That doesn’t change anything about what I said. The largest population areas are metro. For a plethora of reasons, not JUST jobs.
I currently live in on the outskirts of a rural area. And the next time I move, it will absolutely be closer to the city.
Y’all just can’t get over the fact that there’s plenty of reasons why rural areas arent densely populated. Even with all the crap that urban areas deal with, more people still rather stay there than live in the rural regions.
That should tell you something.
See, that's right from your words, your side knows our side is right on this issue, you just don't want to admit it, Admit that the democrat led cities, who vote for democrat politicians have harsh conditions from the government over taxation, higher living costs, we can leave crime out of it, because crime isn't a government policy except for corruption, but democrats, largely, govern by handouts, and punish those who are productive, by trying to take through taxation,
But history shows nobody can tax their way to prosperity without hundreds suffering to create that increase. It's as clear as raising cows to get milk, vs. taking all the milk from the people who have cows, to get milk.
hm, and they always say we are only going to take milk from that one guy with the billion pound cow! All of your milk is safe.
And yet you moved to the suburbs, right? Tell us why.
What goes on in the city, or suburbs that's so great? I'm minutes away from all the good a city has to offer. I'm also hours away from all the crap a city has to offer.
I suppose if you're a metro dude (not you, just in general) having all the 'luxuries' just minutes away, or depending on traffic, a lot longer away, would be cool)
Just as I told portland about his choice to not have kids - that's his choice, and he's happy about it. Good for him.
Most of the country doesn't travel? It wasn't long ago I was told that not travelling to other countries made me a hick.
In fact, as I stated earlier, eh, it isn't worth it. I like to go to the cities, and I love leaving them.
what you should've got was that even with the stuff going on in the urban area, it was still better than dealing with all the crap in the rural area.
im not really sure where you're getting at with the rest of your post, but okie dokie.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
its not that hard to grasp. i personally rather live closer to the city than the outskirts.
again, you got offended, even though i didn't say it was bad. i just said what most people prefer.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
--Employment opportunities. Hard to argue w/this one. --Better health care facilities --Better restaurants --More cultural opportunities, such as theater, museums, concert halls, etc. --Public transportation
Benefits of living in rural areas:
--Less crime --Peace and quiet --More available land --Tight knit communtity --Slower pace of living --Good place to raise kids --Less pollution, whether it be air or noise.
Benefits of living in the suburbs:
--Less crime than cities --Close enough to drive to city jobs --Larger land plots than cities --Closer to shopping, restaurants, entertainment activities than rural homes --Neighbors who tend to be hard-working, honest folks who share similar ideologies --Better schools
How many suburbs can Joe Biden save, from wildfires, personally? Because he thinks stopping plastic or a smokestack, or by forcing people to change their own life choices, because Biden falsely believes global warming?
How many suburbs burn because climiate denial? How about getting some proper forest management to stop wildfires, or better deal with them as they can't be stopped.
But leave it to democrats to blame the weather on Republicans.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
It's true that many are leaving the cities due to being able to work remotely, big tech has talked about that several times the last few years that I have seen. So the numbers don't surprise me if true. But it is also a small percentage of the people that are there.
so far the only benefit to living out this way is there aren't anywhere near as many cops.
which is why i highly question this common idea that there's less crime in the burbs/rural areas.
and i mean HIGHLY question it. one thing i have absolutely learned living in the burbs, inner city, and rural area is that one is only tolerating one set of problems for another.
and we all need to remember that just because something isn't a crime doesn't mean it isn't horrible.
cause the amount of overdoses and suicides in the burbs/rural area is most certainly a problem.
people REALLY like to put a pretty face on out here. its funny....and tragic.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Like I said bro, it's a personal decision. I made that last post to offer some perspective to the three locales. In no way was I trying to influence anyone. Hell, I almost certainly left off positives for each of the three places. I just did it off the top of my head.
How many suburbs can Joe Biden save, from wildfires, personally? Because he thinks stopping plastic or a smokestack, or by forcing people to change their own life choices, because Biden falsely believes global warming?
How many suburbs burn because climiate denial? How about getting some proper forest management to stop wildfires, or better deal with them as they can't be stopped.
But leave it to democrats to blame the weather on Republicans.
Falsely believes global warming? You serious Clark?
How many suburbs can Joe Biden save, from wildfires, personally? Because he thinks stopping plastic or a smokestack, or by forcing people to change their own life choices, because Biden falsely believes global warming?
How many suburbs burn because climiate denial? How about getting some proper forest management to stop wildfires, or better deal with them as they can't be stopped.
But leave it to democrats to blame the weather on Republicans.
Falsely believes global warming? You serious Clark?
Yes everybody knows, for decades, global warming has just been a way for the USA to enter into lopsided international agreements that hurt the USA and help other places like China, by punishing business and industry in the USA with standards that cripple productivity, and stifle new investment. Yet they do nothing good or bad to the real problems of climate change.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
Or maybe, some people like the urban environment, street cafes, clubs, faster paced lifestyle.
While others like a more laid back lifestyle, little more remote ans solitary, all while other yet want a nice suburb with good schools, small town feel, but bigger town amenities.
And as people age and their lifestyles change they move from one to location to another that better suits their current lifestyle.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
Like how old people move to the south when their bones start aching due to the cold?
33years old and got that arthritis in one knee, baby!!!
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
How many suburbs can Joe Biden save, from wildfires, personally? Because he thinks stopping plastic or a smokestack, or by forcing people to change their own life choices, because Biden falsely believes global warming?
How many suburbs burn because climiate denial? How about getting some proper forest management to stop wildfires, or better deal with them as they can't be stopped.
But leave it to democrats to blame the weather on Republicans.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
I've heard talk, the big democratic states of California, and New York, the draconian, punitive taxation among other things, crime, bad news all around, democrat troublesome thumb to live under, causes----
There is a waiting list, at least, and maybe a months long waiting list, to try and get a moving truck U-Haul or such, to LEAVE Cali, or NY,
Because they can't keep them in the state, because everybody's trying to get out!
As someone who just moved out of CA, I can tell you that's not true.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Trump supporters are hands down the dumbest people on the planet.
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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Trump supporters are hands down the dumbest people on the planet.
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Triumph fans, otoh... :-p
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
dude said he would still vote for trump even if he microwaved immigrants.
there's no reasoning with trump supporters.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
dude said he would still vote for trump even if he microwaved immigrants.
there's no reasoning with trump supporters.
Yeah... I just watched it....
As an electorate, we are getting exactly what we deserve.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
dude said he would still vote for trump even if he microwaved immigrants.
there's no reasoning with trump supporters.
Yeah... I just watched it....
As an electorate, we are getting exactly what we deserve.
When you use the words “we” and “electorate” don’t assume the majority of Americans asked for this bucket of crap trump reality show the GOP leadership allowed him to create in the WH with our tax dollars.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
Or they just don't want to deal with snow anymore.
That and we don't have state income tax.
I didn't go the whole Florida route but Nashville seems much better than Ohio to me. I mean, if we have snow it's only an inch to two and the whole place shuts down. While it does once in a while get "Ohio cold" it's somewhat rare. So it does away with the burden of shoveling snow, salting things down, cleaning off the car and having to warm up the car. Which the older you get the more benefit you see in that.
Honestly I prefer country life. From a purely enjoyment standpoint, living in the middle of nowhere would be wonderful. It simply isn't what I feel is a practical situation from my standpoint. In "normal times" I like to dine out, go to the movies with my wife, to see concerts and sports. There are some things I wouldn't really mind having to order online, but having access to a variety of shopping venues is something I like to have. As I have gotten older, having closer access to a reliable hospital has made its way to my priority list.
As such and given all of that, the suburbs are a middle ground for me. I'm less than a half hour from Nashville, in the middle of two smaller towns, both about 10 minutes away with a wide variety of shopping, dining and entertainment.
But I certainly agree with Vers that's it's more about personal choice and each individuals priorities.
As a kid I grew up in the country. I wasn't happy that there was "nothing to do" as a teen. As with most teens I wanted to be more social and there really weren't many such settings within my community. But looking back, it pushed me towards playing sports. It gave me the opportunity to work for the local farmers and build a strong work ethic. We had a garden, camped, fished and hunted. Learning to live off the land and be self sustaining is a priceless thing. So in hindsight, I wouldn't have wanted it any other way.
As a young adult I found city living much more affordable in the Dayton area. It wasn't bad, just not my cup of tea. I did find something very interesting by having lived in both the city and the country. We can see it on this very thread. City people don't really understand country people and country people don't really understand city people. In both cases they have their preconceived notions with nothing more than headlines and what they "feel" about people unlike themselves.
As for the state tax issue. Here in Tennessee we don't have state taxes either. What we do have is a very high sales tax and groceries are also taxed. As such you pay 9.5% on everything including food.
In theory it sounds like a great idea. I mean it does make it a situation where everyone contributes to the states income. It works well for me on a personal level. I love the sound of it.
But then when one stops to think, it made me slightly more hesitant. I may go to Kroger and spend $150 on groceries. It doesn't have some huge impact paying $14.25 in sales tax. Then I see someone in line right behind me knowing they can't really afford that. The minimum wage here is still $7.25 and a lot of places just don't pay much more than that. So let's just say that I'm torn on some level about it. I mean, people gotta eat. It's not as if it isn't life sustaining.
I think it depends on where you are in life. I mean if you earn a lot of money, it's a huge win for you. If you are poor, it's a huge burden on you. As I said, on a personal level, as it pertains to my life, I'm fine with it. In the grand scheme of things it's not quite as cut and dry for me.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll Thursday, September 17, 2020
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-eight percent (48%) disapprove.
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll Thursday, September 17, 2020
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-eight percent (48%) disapprove.
On this same date in 2012, Obama was at 49%, just before his reelection.
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll Thursday, September 17, 2020
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-eight percent (48%) disapprove.
FBI's Wray says Antifa more an ideology than a group, undercutting statements by other Trump officials
Wray also told Congress the FBI has seen "very active" Russian efforts to influence the 2020 election, to "sow divisiveness" and "denigrate" Biden.
WASHINGTON — FBI Director Christopher Wray said on Thursday that the bureau views Antifa as "more of an ideology than an organization," undercutting statements by President Donald Trump and others in his administration that Antifa is leading, organizing and funding acts of violence in cities across the country from a national level.
Trump, as well as Attorney General William Barr and Acting Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Mark Morgan, have all recently condemned Antifa for flying organized groups to cities across the country to incite violence. NBC News previously reported that a CBP spokesperson said there was no evidence to support Morgan's claim of organized groups boarding planes.
Wray, testifying before the House Homeland Security Committee, said the FBI has seen local organizing by Antifa. "We have seen folks who subscribe or identify with the Antifa movement, who coalesce regionally into small groups or nodes and they are certainly organized at that level."
Wray said FBI's investigations into domestic violent extremists have increased in 2020, having made more than 120 arrests and opened over 1,000 investigations.
He said anti-government and anti-authority groups were the most lethal this year. In recent years, he said, racially and ethnically motivated violent extremists have been responsible for the most lethal attacks, with white supremacists making up the largest portion of those killings.
Wray also said the FBI has seen "very active efforts" by Russia to influence the 2020 election, primarily to "sow divisiveness and disorder" and "denigrate Vice President Biden."
Wray, along with Director of the National Counterterrorism Center Christopher Miller, testified before the House Homeland Security Committee on worldwide threats to the homeland. Department of Homeland Security Acting Secretary Chad Wolf did not appear, despite being asked to testify, citing his pending nomination for secretary and a precedent that past nominees have not testified on other topics ahead of their nomination hearings.
Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson declined to allow Wolf's deputy, Ken Cuccinelli, to testify in his place. Thompson, who issued a subpoena for Wolf to appear, said, "Mr. Wolf has run the Department of Homeland Security for the last 10 months and has been responsible for numerous decisions directly relevant to the subjects the Committee intends to explore."
In Wolf's absence, Wray took center stage on topics ranging from recent protests and civil unrest to foreign influence in the upcoming election.
Wolf also said the Chinese view themselves as in an international talent war and envy the talent of the United States. As a result of their attempts to steal intellectual property, the FBI is opening a new Chinese counterintelligence investigation "about every 10 hours."
But you often times talk about minimum wage. (in Ohio, it's $8.70 now I believe) Around here, at least, that's what kids make in summer jobs - and at most, it's for a summer. Show up - bam, after 30-90 days you get a raise. A family supporting raise? No, not at all.
Almost ALL full time jobs around here start at $12 to $12.50 an hour, and within 90 days you're making (with good attendance and work)you're making $13.50 to after a year, $15 an hour. Full time jobs, with benefits like sick days, vacation, and health insurance.
Yeah, the gas station clerk isn't getting that.
None of these jobs require anything more than a h.s. degree, and at most places, overtime is available, even 7 days a week IF you want.
Many places start you even higher. And this isn't nyc.
Road construction (which requires SOME travel, for which you are reimbursed - guarantees you $50,000 your first year. And 'year' is about 9 months of work til you get laid off. SAme thing - nothing but a h.s. diploma needed, they'll train you.
Spent a weekend with a kid that's 19. He said the next closest person on his crew in age is 36. Is it hard work? Some days, some days not. And yup, he gets up at 5 a.m so he can be at the job site by 6:30, and work til 4 or 5. Vacation, health, dental, union job, pension.
I could go on and on about the jobs available, full time jobs, with benefits that do NOT start anywhere NEAR minimum wage, and do not require much more than you show up and do the days work.
But, as to your point about urban, suburban, or rural.........it's an individual choice, just as having kids is an individual choice. I like the benefits of rural. Some like the benefits of the other places. I won't pimp my locale, but hey, I'm 45 minutes from the TSO if I wanted to go. Same thing for 'fine dining', 15 minutes from movies in 2 different directions, groceries 5 minutes away, 2 wal marts 15 minutes away in 2 different directions (we don't do any shopping there, though) Entertainment? Yup. Austin to Archbold - dude that grew up here, became a city council person in Austin TX organized it. Almost weekly events in the summer months of musicians from Austin TX coming up here. He also has gotten Girl Named Tom events in Austin.
So, really, the difference between .........let's just say Ohio's rural, urban, and suburban communities is minimal, at max.
Okay, I said a lot. Time to shower and go to a dive bar 3 miles away for some of the best food - NOT healthy food mind you - available.
That doesn’t change anything about what I said. The largest population areas are metro. For a plethora of reasons, not JUST jobs.
Y’all just can’t get over the fact that there’s plenty of reasons why rural areas arent densely populated. Even with all the crap that urban areas deal with, more people still rather stay there than live in the rural regions.
Actually, the reason rural areas aren't densely populated is because there are these things called farms. Farmers plant crops, on acres and acres and acres of ground. 200 acres for a farmer that has a second job. 1000 to 3000 acres for a guy that does it for a living. You know, those people that grow the grain, to feed you and me, that raise the hogs, and chickens, and steers (beef) that we all love to eat.
But, food ain't important, is it?
Some of the richest people I know are farmers. Some of the 'poorest' I know are farmers......but when those 'poor farmers' sell their ground, they become wealthy also.
please stop acting as if all of rural america is farms.
there are PLENTY of rural towns in america with no farms in sight. they are just simply in the middle of nowhere.
just stop it.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
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