DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2020 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 35 Bengals 30 Post Game

- These bastards have sucked me back in.

- Sheldon Richardson was over the field.

- Denzel Ward had himself a game.

- Baker got his confeidence back. He was decisive and accurate.

- OBJ had great body language, was engaged, made plays and looked genuinely happy.

- Cody Parkey made me not pay attention to XPs again.

- Myles Garrett made a big play.

- Porter Gustin made a difference.

- Vernon was not missed.

- OL played great.

- Chubb and Hunt are an amazing tandem.

- Stefanski called an outstanding game. Got the best out the talent. H/T to the HC on his first win.

- Reiterating how accurate and confident Baker looked.

Go pound the Washington Football Team

Go Browns

Chris Hubbard deserves a kudos as well. And Andy Janovich.

It'd be really weird if he was under it.

His motor was definitely running hot.

#SixFeetUnder

j/c

I like - no, I love watching Chub and Hunt run. Either one of them can, and do, break a big run. But the coolest part is they almost always seem to get an extra 2 or 3 yards.

Impressed with the Offense, and with the playcalling. Feeling confident in our coaches. Especially happy that Baker played extremely well and got out of the funk. Keep it up!

We just need to get our D sorted. We have injuried, next man up.

Of the 61 passes I want to now how many times Thomas was targeted. I’m willing to bet it was nearly 20 times. I can’t wait for KJ, or even Stewart to get healthy.

At least once, on the TD against Ward.

...Oh, that Thomas. Yeah, it'll be nice if he can go back to focusing on special teams. Wonder if he might be better at safety, doesn't seem to have the feet/change of direction to stick with WRs.

I really started to enjoy the "pain faces" burrow was making in the 2nd half. I never thought he was hit very hard, but his faces made it look that way.

Someone at the bar told me that Joe Burrow was talking smack about Baker before the game. Is this true?

Only thing I can think of was that he was asked how he was similar to Baker. His response was that Baker was an accurate college QB. The emphasis there was mine, I didn't notice it from Burrow, but I wasn't paying close attention. That's the only thing that comes to mind as possibly being a shot at Mayfield.

gc.
haven't read any of this tonight.

I think Mitchell had a couple plays he could do better on.

If you frisk a guy from head to toe and miss the tackle, reminds me of a comment I once heard, some Vets know how to not tackle but make it look like they are trying to.

There was a 2nd obvious one, that escapes my mind.

Sendejo, and Taviere, need help, they really don't ...
I don't think there is any chance to win a playoff game with them on the field unless they vastly improve..

Mayfield, That interception was a real momentum killer.

The Offense moved the ball on about 9 drives tonight, and the first 3 last week,
Anybody else noticing the ole "run two pass, kick " 3 and out then Punt drives are missing.

The first half,
If the bengal makes a catch, stops, turn, and The Browns player is in position to bring the hips, wrap up, and tackle him backwards,

Then it's less than ideal if you slide around and tackle while giving up another 6 yards. And 2 times Really stood out.

Baker and the, Well the Refs were awful, even on one call against the bengals, The refs were blind!

And the intentional Grounding.

That was a bad call but it was an avoidable call
2-10, with a spot foul, becomes 2nd and 24, he wasn't 14 yards deep,

That drive, ending That way, was a momentum killer.

Final Result: The Browns gave up 30 points and 38 last week, that's dangerous.

I know im glass half empty guy, and i do apologize for that, but i am who i am. To me this was a win that felt like a loss. Even if the linebackers and safties were all healthy, these are two of the worst cores in the nfl. Moat of the time they look lost. We have a defensive coordinator who moved Garrett to the other side of the line. Yes he is going against the slower right tackle, but he is also facing more double teams and chip blocks from the tight end. Really makes little sense to me. A rookie qb on one of the worst teams in the nfl torched us tonight as we gave up 30 points. Tight ends will do major damage to us all year. Just to stay in games we will have to put up close to 30 points a game. Which we all know is not gonna happen week in and week out. Im sorry for being negative, but i just dont feel that much better about this team

I agree with most of what you said. Or defense, especially it coverage, is atrocious. Our run defense wasn't bad at all, even last week.

I am confused, are you saying Baker played awful? The INT was the only major mistake I saw. Even the intentional grounding was bad, but he threw it to were Chubb would have been if he wasn't held. He wasn't spectacular, but with the run have he didn't need to be.

I didn’t read through the entire thread, but a few things that stood out to me:

- I liked that our offense LOOKED better ... formations, shifting, ZBS/PS combos, bootlegs, misdirections, etc. That was good.

- I liked Baker’s demeanor and that he seemed very focused/confident. That’s the QB we all want.

- By my count, Baker threw maybe 2 poor throws all night. The INT was very bad obviously.

- Richardson seemed to be everywhere. He was a big part of the win.

- Gustin can definitely stick around and be a depth guy.

- I’d be okay with not seeing Thomas, Sendejo, or Taki again ... however, we’re so thin that they have to play

- Chubb/Hunt were basically incredible. They are like Payton and Sayers.

- Love the FB to be honest ... he’s made a positive impact to our offense

- I liked getting Hooper/Bryant involved a bit more

- We didn’t miss any XPs which is a plus

- You always love a Thurs night win ... extra rest which we need

Best part came in the 4th quarter.

6 plays 75 yards with back to back runs of 24 Chubb and 33 Hunt.

Takes the wind right out of them.

1-2 punch in the face!!!

Offense looked sharp. This is what they needed to build confidence in this new system.

Chubb and Hunt are an amazing tandem. And yelling CHUBB!! at the TV is fun.

Defense played well, but damn, 20+ years of giving up the 5-8 yard routes consistently. Seems every team can make those plays at will, and we can do nothing to stop it.

4 downs from the 1, brought up a real bad memory of last year. I know the D knows we are running it, and you have to be able to punch it in at will, but probably should throw in a screen or something on 3rd if you lost a yard on the first 2 tries, it was obvious the D was keying in on the run.

Had a bad feeling when the very first play has to be challenged because the ref is blind, I saw he was out live on TV. Then the same ref misses the Beckham jersey pull.

That final drive is something we haven’t been able to do much in 25 years ... run it down someone’s throat to seal it. It had to have been like 8 plays, 80 yards, all runs

Burrow's gonna get Klinglered. I feel bad for him, and there's no way he can survive a run of games like these first two weeks.

I agree, that is a pretty good mix.

Obviously game situation can change that some where the numbers might be reversed.

I wondered why Garrett was on the right side. My thought was that, maybe with Vernon out, Claiborne worked better from the left? Or they had the idea that Garrett could handle the double teams and still be effective while Claiborne would not?

Isn’t Garrett on the one side because Claiborne can only rush from the other (I think he’s blind in one eye)

yeah, I just think if we get too much out of wack, we won't be playing Stafanski brand of football and something went wrong.

The secondary worries me. Hopefully when Greedy, Johnson and Stewart get back it will help. Ward looked good and Mitchell was good one play and then had me scratching my head on another.

Seemed like a lot of missed tackles out there. Taki Taki needs work. Hopefully Mack Wilson will help this issue.

Frustrating thing about the Mayfield int. It looked like the pass itself was perfect. I know he should have seen the DB coming from his left, but a step slower and I think that pass hits Hooper(?) right in the hands.

Loved watching Chubb and Hunt

Fun game to watch!

Takeaways on offense:

Was really fun to watch the running game. OL did great even missing Conklin, and the TEs and FB did great blocking. We have something to build on.

Baker looked sharp most of the game, but the INT was really bad at that time in the game. But it was progress.

That all said, the Bengals Defense is awful.

On defense:

Garrett is a monster; was mostly quiet, but he was getting chipped with a TE or RB most plays he was lined up on the outside. Still found a way to make an impact play.

Ward and Richardson had nice games.

Our LBs and Safetys suck and need to be upgraded if we want to take the next step. We got killed trying to cover TEs and RBs in the middle of the field. When you can't take away the middle of the field, it's hard to get off the field on 3rd and 4th downs.

If we are going to be a running, ball control offense, we are going to need a better defense to be considered a "good" team.

Running the ball, not turning it over, and playing good defense is a winning combination in this league and in the playoffs (see the 49ers and Titans last year).

Hopefully we can get healthier on defense, but we still have a lot of work to do.

New Here,

Glad we won. Offense looked much better than last week. Our Defense though needs some work. Our LB are awful, and outside of Ward our secondary is bad. Perhaps a few guys coming back from injury will help here.

Offensive line played well, running game was great.

Mayfield still concerns me. Quite a few plays last night, Mayfield took off running out of a clean pocket. He refuses to step up into the pocket and throw a ball. Instead he takes off. This tells me he is either afraid(unlikely) or he won't step up into the pocket because he can't see over the line(very likely)

Mayfield would have to have a phenomenal year like 35+ TD and less than 13 INTS to even consider exercising the option on him. He just screams average and mediocre.

He will have a much harder time next week. Washington has a much better secondary and pass rush, and Ron Riveria is a great D mastermind. They will force Mayfield to stay in the pocket, he has to stop running from a clean pocket and learn how to step up in the pocket and throw a ball or he will never be anything more than a below average QB that will only have success against the dregs of the NFL.

What I found to be most interesting is that the player have bought in on Stafanski. I notived the words that he used are being used by most of the players in the interviews or they are using similar words. IF this trend continues, we can build a culture around that.

My thoughts -

- Joe Buck needs a blow-up doll of Burrow for those lonely nights on the road. Something to spoon with.

- Good game plan. Nice to see how well we ran.

- Imagine being able to give a guy like Chubb a rest, only to bring Hunt in.

- OL played well. Obviously in the run game, but in pass pro as well. To be honest, I was worried when Hubbard started. Didn't really notice him, which is a good thing.

- Did anyone else see Teller rub his hands together before the blindside block? I saw it on the replay, he looked like a Bond villain.

- Didn't force OBJ into the game plan, it was organic.

- Nice to go 5/5 on XP. But I hate the out of bounds KO.

- Nice pressure on Burrow.

- Held the run game in check. Unlike last year vs Cincy.

- At some point we need to realize that TEs are eligible receivers and cover them.

- Ward played well. Green a non-factor.

- Sweet to use a challenge flag on the first play of the game. How did that ref miss that, when he was standing right there? And why did that review take so long? It seemed pretty obvious. The Cincy players knew it right away.

- Our LBs suck, and Taki sucks on another level. Can't tackle or cover.

- Our safeties suck, and #23 sucks on another level. Can't tackle or cover. Cincy had a 2nd and 10, he wraps the ball carrier after 6 yards and took a ride for another 4. It's not just the one play, he's bad all game.

- Baker was accurate, threw it well. That one pick was a terrible throw. Terrible. But I think that was a product of him as a gun-slinger because his swagger was back. For a game at least.

- If the back of our D does not get it together, we are in trouble. We only play Cincy one more time.

Forgot to add: The OL played a fabulous game. 0 sacks, lots of time, and not many penalties ... oh yeah, plus we ran for over 220 yards or whatever lol

This is to add to Joe Buck's collection that currently consists of a blow-up doll of Schwarber (2015 version).

haha honestly it was a bit over the top last night. At halftime they were even like ... “oh yeah, Cleveland is a team we haven’t talked about yet”