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We're fresh out of "other DE's".

Myles got the strip sack. Also had 9 QB pressures.

I agree with everything else you said, but I think Mitchell was verrrry solid last night.

I forgot to mention Mitchell.

I'm a big money Mitch fan.

same here ... I think our problem is NOT on the CBS ... it’s the safeties and LBs. The middle of the field is a sieve in the pass game

Yeah, actually Burrow's first TD should have been picked by Sendejo. He threw a lollipop but Sendejo is so slow, I could have completed that pass for a TD.

Hodge is the 3rd wide receiver because of his ability to stretch the field. He has speed to burn which Higgins just doesn’t have.

j/c...

I thought the same thing. I feel like it's a mindset that's missing against better competition - almost like we put our tail between our legs. Let's hope it continues.

Yes, please.

Really hope Clayborne is okay

And folks in the Game Day thread were calling him trash and a bust ...

Agreed with most of the post - but most especially the FB / Wills comments along with the comparison of Ravens/Cinci performances.

Mayfield got some of his moxy back. It was great to see.

The scoreboard allowed for the game plan to remain steady. It's great when the flow of the game permits you to stay on point.

The "Mayfield to OBJ" connection began to show. Watching Baker, OBJ and Landry all hanging out together on the bench was a good sign.

The running game came through with flying colors. It's a one two punch that doesn't miss a beat. For anyone in doubt, that Hunt contract looks like quite a bargain about now.

Sheldon Richardson was all over the field and Garrett was applying pressure. The Garrett strip of Burrows was text book. I really can't say enough about how well the defensive front played and how well they kept the run in check. Even the LB'ers overall helped stop the run game.

But coverage? Let's face it, it stunk. Ward was the only real stand out and Mitchell did make some plays. Mitchell appeared to me to be Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. And no, not Carlos Hyde.

Not every team is going to be the Bengals. And we won't look like this every week. But it's nice to see the potential is there. That there's a flame burning with which to start a fire.

Maybe all the negative press in regards to Baker and OBJ motivated them. Maybe it was the way they got blown out against Baltimore that motivated them. Maybe it was Stefanski stepping up and putting a boot in their asses that motivated them. I have no idea. But something did.

And on a Friday morning, with ten days to savor this win, it feels pretty good right now.

I mentioned Teller in my post game comments, as well. Said he played w/a mean streak and I mean that as a compliment.

Btw: Regarding the play that Schwartz is showing on the G-gap. We have another version of that play where Teller came from RG to blcok in that hole instead of the FB. We also ran it in the opposite direction w/Bitonio leading the way. Both were very successful.

Yes. When watching that play above I was thinking of the one to the other side as well. While I'm not real well versed on the nuts and bolts, blocking assignments, etc, I remember thinking both were really well executed... and then wondering when the last time I saw us run any type of counter play with success.

As others have mentioned, it's the Bengals, but as Baker said in his post game and it can't be understated. Other teams don't prevent you from executing, you prevent that.

It was great to see the big boys up front play an entire game without ever really missing a beat. Kudos to their effort and the coaching staff. Game balls all around to the OL.

We ran a ZBS when I was coaching and I absolutely love counter plays. There are plays where your guards can absolutely annihilate DTs or DEs.

He had a bad game! (my opinion, sure but)

Two very noticeable bad plays, and I forget the 2nd one, so i'll assume it was some coverage thing,

but the one, He did, or appeared so to me, what once I heard textbood described by the radio announcer,
who said,
(The problem is some of these veteran players get real good at making it look like they are tackling when they are not!)
and that comment was right after saying some people don't want to tackle because it hurts to make a tackle.

What Mitchell did was envelop a guy, up top, then slide to a bear hug of his shoulder pads,
then slide down to a bear hug of his waist or hips,
to a hug of his ankle area, and miss on the tackle. (all in one continuous motion) (the whole first half, at least, there was a big lack on the whole defense of ... bring the hips, wrap up, come with intensity on tackling.

It was in the first half.
Dangit, I just read an article on focus... and already lost focus.

j/c...

I'm looking back on yesterdays game, and I want to pick Versatile Dogs brain,
I want to LASER FOCUS on TWO PLAYS, and them only.

Baker Mayfield, and his two worst plays, I think, on the day.
The intentional grounding, which set up 2nd and 24,

and the interception, which gave an opportunity for Cincy to really get back in position to win, with their offense, a game they were behind in momentum.

The intentional groundind play,
I see a screen pass, which goes arwry, there is really nowhere to go with the ball, whoever was supposed to catch the screen appeared to not be around, like they misheard a playcall,
And the thing is, I can no longer think he should have just thrown it away because, just last Thursday in the league opener, we saw an intentional grounding, via throwaway, called when he thew it out of the endzone, iirc.

2nd, The interception, This was a real drive killer, a real momentum killer, both plays were,
In this case, the Browns were already up 8-11 at the time, and midfield or crossing beyond midfield
Qb, had a lot of time, and a lot of room in his scramble,
"you never throw the ball late over the middle" is shouted by buckeye announcers here locally sometimes,
this play was a case of throwing the ball late over the middle.

What Should this QB do, on these two plays

Because Both of those plays, stopped the Browns from going an opportunity to really make yesterdays game a blowout.

While our running tandem may remind us the glory days of Mack and Byner, our corners don't exactly inspire visions of Dixon and Minnifield.

The INT wasn't good but it was a hell of a play by the DB. That ball was on a rope and on target. DB just made a better play.

Also, Wyatt Teller has a 90.1 PFF rating so far this year.

teller has been very good. Stefanski singled him out last night too

And Cincinnati's run defense was 32nd in the league last year, part of the reason they brought in Reader at DT,
So yesterdays run success might not be the most reliable measurer over time.

Luckily there's been a large sample size of both backs being successful on nearly every given Sunday.

the Screen pass... a rb/fb/te/wr was not where they were supposed to be. so Baker threw it away. or.. so he thought. he just didn't throw it past the LOS. He will learn from that one.

the interception was because the safety came back across to help and Baker never saw him. It happens.

I thought / assumed that he simply figured his RB would be somewhere in the vicinity of where he was supposed to be which would have been by his two pulling/blocking linemen. . . . I'm planning to rewatch the game - no idea if he had enough time to look at what was what, or if he just threw it in the dirt where the RB was supposed to be.

I think he thought Chubb was right there but he was farther downfield. He should have just thrown it out of bounds.

j/c:

I'll try to answer Throw's questions.

I think you guys have the screen pass down. Not sure if Chubb got caught in traffic or was further down field? There were 3 o-linemen there. Baker probably thought one of them was eligible. I am not sure. I agree w/cfrs that he just needed t get it past the LOS.

The interception was on Baker. He should have recognized this one on a pre-snap read. The Bengals were in zone coverage. I think they were in Cover 4, or maybe a combination of one coverage on one side of the field and another on the opposite side. I didn't get a good look at the defensive alignment on their left side or Browns right side. The guy who made the pick was lined up over a receiver we had in the slot on the offensive left side. He went in motion. The safety stayed in his zone coverage and dropped straight back. Looked like Cover 4 to me. Baker should have recognized that they were in zone and that the DB didn't have anyone in his area. I am guessing that he never saw him in his post-snap read. It was a mistake on Baker's part.

With that said, all qbs make mistakes. Baker had a very good game. Extremely accurate. Quicker decisions. Didn't run into sacks. Played w/more confidence. I thought it was his best game in a long, long time. We can win a lot of games if he continues to play like he did last night.

jc

Fell asleep at halftime last night.
Watching a replay of the game on espn and seeing the 2nd half for the 1st time.
A guy that sticks out - Porter Gustin #97

Not flashy but a good blue collar player.
Solid and makes the occasional impact play.

No sooner do I post that, and he gets a sack but draws a penalty for a facemask on the Qb