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Voter Who Grilled Trump at ABC Town Hall: I Broke Down And Cried After

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On Date September 18, 2020


CNN: Ellesia Blaque, who lives with the the chronic medical conditions sarcoidosis and neurosarcoidosis, asked President Donald Trump about his healthcare plan at an ABC town hall. She tells CNN's Brianna Keilar about the experience and how she reacted to Trump's answer. #CNN #News


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KEILAR: President Trump, taken to task at his town hall over whether he is going to protect pre-existing conditions in his still- unannounced health care plan.

An undecided voter who suffers from the chronic medical condition sarcoidosis, demanded to know if Trump would keep the same insurance protections as Obamacare. So she asked Trump point-blank, what was he going to do to protect people like her.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ELLESIA BLAQUE, SUFFERS FROM SARCOIDOSIS AND NEUROSARCOIDOSIS: Should pre-existing conditions -- which Obamacare brought into -- brought to fruition, be removed?

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: No.

BLAQUE: Without -- please stop and let me finish my question, sir. Should that be removed? Within a 36- to 72-hour period without my medication, I will be dead. And I want to know what it is that you're going to do to assure that people like me -- who work hard, we do everything we're supposed to do -- can stay insured.

It's not my fault that I was born with this disease. It's not my fault that I'm a black woman, and in the medical community I'm minimized and not taken seriously. I want to know what you are going to do about that.

TRUMP: So first of all, I hope you are taken seriously, I hope you are.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KEILAR: Ellesia Blaque is joining us now to discuss this moment. She is an assistant professor of African literature at Kutztown University. You were obviously very firm there, and very clear in the question that you had to ask the president. Tell us what your reaction was to the answer that you got back.

BLAQUE: The answer that I received from the president actually broke my heart and made me extremely angry. In fact, when I -- when the event concluded and I left Constitution Hall, I sat on one of the walls and I broke down and I cried.

Because he did not address the question at all. What he did was, he took what I said about Obamacare, and flew with that in order to chop Barack Obama and the ACA to shreds, and to attempt to chop Joe Biden to shreds because he was one of the most important people in creating the Affordable Care Act.

For the record, I do not get the ACA. I'm insured by the State of Pennsylvania because I work for the State of Pennsylvania. And even though it is very expensive for me because I'm a single income, I have no children, but I have a single income and it's expensive to live where I live, with all the medications, the copays and the testing, et cetera -- and I get quite a bit.

That's not my complaint. My complaint and my problem is that as sick and disabled people who have diseases we cannot control, we were born with and are stuck with for life, we are thrown away like trash. We are treated like he treated me. He fluffed me off like soot on the bottom of his $3,000 pair of shoes, and I resent it.

We have a right to live, we have a right to life and we have a right to be treated equally within the medical community and among insurance companies.

Without the pre-existing condition rule, insurance companies are going to revert straight back to LOMA (ph) one through 10, and they're going to put a morbidity date on my life, which I have already passed. And I will be uninsured again.

KEILAR: Ellesia, you were there for this whole town hall, and you watched the president answer your question and others. Did you get the impression that he understands how health care works?

BLAQUE: No, not at all, not at all. He repeats himself redundantly about how Obamacare is a disaster. But he never talks specifics. Because I can tell over the last three and a half years that I've paid very close attention to this man, he does not read.

And he does -- if he does read, he's not reading thoroughly and he's not reading the way I read, with a notepad and a highlighter and taking notes so that I know what the little, persnickety details are about what it is that I do read, because that's where the most important information is. And he doesn't do that.

And he also comes from a position where he needs nothing. He can gain anything he wants at any given time from the day he was born. I was born into West Oak Lane, Philadelphia by a wonderful single mother who raised her kids without a welfare check or food stamp, and a grandmother who helped us out and told us we can be better than what -- into what we were born.

And I have done everything that I possibly can to do that. And people like that should not be thrown away. People with diabetes shouldn't be thrown away because they have diabetes.

KEILAR: No, certainly I think many people connect with you on that point.

I wonder, going into this, were you undecided? Obviously you have a lot of concerns with the president right now. Were you undecided, and where are you now?

BLAQUE: My indecision wasn't about whether to vote for Trump or Biden, that wasn't the indecision. The indecision was whether to vote or not. For the first time in my life, I did not -- since I was 18, I didn't vote in the primaries, I just sat in my car, disgusted. And so I didn't vote in the primaries.

And with everything that has taken place over the summer, I have just -- I've sat in my car and just cried because I can't believe all these people are dying, all these black people are being shot, all this disrespect between Americans on the street. It doesn't make sense to me.

And politicians, I don't care who they are -- Democrats, independents, Republicans -- they don't seem to, you know, really care about us on the block. They don't care about the people who are actually living it. They don't live it, they're beyond it because they're politicians, they get good paychecks, they have excellent health care, their jobs are secure.

That's not how it works where I live. I live right around the corner from Reading, Pennsylvania. I lived in Allentown, Pennsylvania. I'm from Philadelphia. That's not the way it works where we live. We have to struggle. We -- I become a professional to rob Peter and pay Paul because I'm so overtaxed because my tax bracket is in the middle, where I pay for the rich and I pay for the poor and there's nothing left for myself, OK?

And they don't care about that. They don't care that there are millions of people who are suffering, trying to figure out how they're going to pay rent or being evicted. It is of no fault of their own that they lost their job, and that they can't get another one in their field.

KEILAR: He --

BLAQUE: These people should be considered.

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She speaks for a lot of Americans in this interview. Not just for her critique of POTUS, but for current living conditions for millions of citizens.

Makes me realize how blessed I have been.
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Friday, September 18, 2020

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 53% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-six percent (46%) disapprove.

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It’s so funny watching conservative clowns donate to the NRA KNOWING they have received money from Russia and had spies all up in the organization.

But, I expect nothing less from anti-American losers, who falsely claim they’re patriots.


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And then on top of that, trump trying to get rid of diversity training and claiming schools are teaching kids to hate this country is straight up trash.

That is a direct appeal to white nationalists and supremacy.

Ya know, the kind of people who find tucker Carlson and Laura ingraham enlightening and credible.


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Trump demands 'patriotic education' in U.S. schools
Children must be taught that America is “an exceptional, free and just nation, worth defending, preserving and protecting,” he said.

By NICOLE GAUDIANO
08/31/2020 08:12 PM EDT

President Donald Trump said Monday that the nation must restore “patriotic education” in schools as a way to calm unrest in cities and counter “lies” about racism in the United States.

Trump blamed violent protests in Portland, Ore., and other cities in recent months on “left-wing indoctrination” in schools and universities, while accusing his Democratic presidential challenger, former Vice President Joe Biden, of giving “moral aid and comfort” to vandals.

“Many young Americans have been fed lies about America being a wicked nation plagued by racism,” Trump said during a news conference. “Indeed, Joe Biden and his party spent their entire convention spreading this hateful and destructive message while refusing to say one word about the violence.”

Trump’s solution: Children must be taught that America is “an exceptional, free and just nation, worth defending, preserving and protecting,” he said.

Democrats are unable, he said, to control a “radical left, crazy movement."

“The only path to unity is to rebuild a shared national identity focused on common American values and virtues of which we have plenty,” he said. “This includes restoring patriotic education in our nation's schools, where they are trying to change everything that we have learned.”

Decisions about curriculum are made at the state and local level, and Trump's second-term agenda does not detail his path for achieving that education focus.

Shortly before becoming a candidate in 2015, Trump decried the idea of American exceptionalism. But the GOP 2016 platform, which will remain in place for 2020, describes the concept as “the notion that our ideas and principles as a nation give us a unique place of moral leadership in the world.”

Biden’s response: “I urge the President to join me in saying that while peaceful protest is a right — a necessity — violence is wrong, period," Biden said in a statement responding to Trump's remarks. "No matter who does it, no matter what political affiliation they have. Period. If Donald Trump can't say that, then he is unfit to be President, and his preference for more violence — not less — is clear.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/31/trump-patriotic-education-406521


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Sounds eerily familiar to:


Hitler immediately made changes to the school curriculum. Education in "racial awareness" began at school and children were constantly reminded of their racial duties to the "national community". Biology, along with political education, became compulsory. Children learnt about "worthy" and "unworthy" races, about breeding and hereditary disease. "They measured their heads with tape measures, checked the colour of their eyes and texture of their hair against charts of Aryan or Nordic types, and constructed their own family trees to establish their biological, not historical, ancestry.... They also expanded on the racial inferiority of the Jews". (4)

As Louis L. Snyder has pointed out: "There were to be two basic educational ideas in his ideal state. First, there must be burnt into the heart and brains of youth the sense of race. Second, German youth must be made ready for war, educated for victory or death. The ultimate purpose of education was to fashion citizens conscious of the glory of country and filled with fanatical devotion to the national cause." (5)

The Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, claimed that the idea that history teaching should be objective was a fallacy of liberalism. (6) "The purpose of history was to teach people that life was always dominated by struggle, that race and blood were central to everything that happened in the past, present and future, and that leadership determined the fate of peoples. Central themes in the new teaching including courage in battle, sacrifice for a greater cause, boundless admiration for the Leader and hatred of Germany's enemies, the Jews." (7)

Hitler appointed the loyal Bernhard Rust as Minister for Education. Rust lost his job as a schoolteacher in 1930 after being accused of having a sexual relationship with a student. He was not charged with the offence because of his "instability of mind". Rust's task was to change the education system so that resistance to fascist ideas were kept to a minimum. (8)

https://spartacus-educational.com/GEReducation.htm


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This is just another example of why both sides suck.

Republicans

Protect all unborn children, none of them should be murdered. Oh but screw the old and the sick they don't deserve to live. We encourage killing them off.


Democrates

Protect all people (Even those here illegally) Free health care for all, oh but screw all of those not born yet, murder as many of them as y'all want, as a matter of fact we encourage that.


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So you are saying it was the Republican mayors and governors who sent Covid patients to the old folks homes, killing them by the thousands?

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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
This is just another example of why both sides suck.

Republicans

Protect all unborn children, none of them should be murdered. Oh but screw the old and the sick they don't deserve to live. We encourage killing them off.


Democrates

Protect all people (Even those here illegally) Free health care for all, oh but screw all of those not born yet, murder as many of them as y'all want, as a matter of fact we encourage that.


Republicans: the party of forced hysterectomies... rolleyes
- the party of kids in cages
- the party of kids disappearing in the night
- the party of splitting up families and kidnapping babies
- the party of forcing kids back to school during a pandemic
- the party of economy over life
- the party of defund schools
- the party of defund kids food and healthcare programs
- the party of only wealthy/white kids matter
- the party of it's ok if cops and gun toting thugs kill black kids
- the party of making heroes out of cold blooded murdering white kids


The republicans can stick their fake ass morality up their ass.

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The republicans can stick their fake ass morality up their ass.


I agree with that statement for SOME republicans, as well as for SOME dems.


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I find this to be one of the better 'forecasting' sites. All they do is use math and statistics to run models. It's normally pretty good. The "snake" graphic on the page about 1/2 way down is really kind of interesting.

Currently Ohio is showing light red - NC, Ax, PA, Fl all light blue. I think it may all come down to NC, AZ and PA.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

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I didn't know giving women a choice was "encouraging" it?


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i don't post late night guys, but at this point, the mockery that trump and supporters truly deserve is something i just can't deliver as good as they can.


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THROW LONG is going to tell you how the General Election could end in a tie and why I think it's at least 10% likely, (barring how I expect the democrats to cheat and steal up to around 5 states 40 days afterwards of course, Of Course of course. )

No matter how the liberal media are lying to us there are only a few battleground states, and there is a real chance this could end up tied.

If you look at who states voted for in the last several elections, and if it tightens down much like it did in 2016, 2008, (The map is really telling, told me Virginia loves Rinos' like McCain and Romney, who knew), well that's establishment, and Biden is establishment, soo, even if 2016 mostly repeats,
We get 4 battleground states, important, to see how real close to a statistical tie this is.

We come to this with Trump having 259, needing 11 to reach 270 to win.
Biden with 222 needing 48 to win,
In this scenario, Trump gets 1 vote out of a Maine district the other 3 go to Biden just like the Trump, Hilary split in 2016.

There are 4 battleground states,
Minnesota, 10 votes, (which is closer than normal but historically Democratic, easy to see a democtatic win by a small margin

Wisconsin, 10 votes, closer than normal, historically democratic but went for Trump in 2016, easy to see Trump winning this one, by a small margin.

Pennsylvania, 20 votes, it's a battleground state, but in this scenario Biden needs to win it, if Trump wins Penn, it's over as he only needs 11, but historically, it's not out of possibilities that Biden gets this one by a small margin.

and Michigan, 16 votes, which went Repbulican in 2016 but by the smallest margin of any state if I recall correctly, So it's not out of possibilities to think it could go for Biden.

Now, Two states give votes to each district and 2 for the winner, Maine, and Nebraska.

In this scenario, needing 270 votes to win, Trump is sitting at 269, Biden at 268, and the 1 district of Nebraska could go to Biden giving a 269-269 tie.

With mail in ballots, different rules per each state, and known election fraud cases in the past, and the FBI saying mail in voting is dangerous for fraud, (per the Sean Hanity show),
and consider, Ohio had something like 600K mail in ballots in 2016, yet as of early Sept, was saying in this Covid year, there were already 1.7million, mail in ballot requests, (so nearly 3 times as many)

Considering that that is just for One State, the idea that we will know who won the election by even 3pm the day after the election is unlikely, yet

with the possibility to pay postal workers to hide ballots, or use known deficits to fradulantly add fake ballots after the fact, with the stakes so high,

I mean how can I believe that a democratic party that never accepted the 2016 election results, with Russian collusion accusations, impeachment accusations, all the constant attacks, unwarranted even,
that they are going to suddenly avoid a little voter fraud because of rules?

So, in spite of the OH Lt Gov, trying to tell me Ohio makes it easy to vote and hard to cheat, there is little anyone can do to convince the other 49 states will be as genuine in their results.
So much so, that I'm already pretty sure this will be By Far, the Least Genuine Election on a national level, in my Lifetime,
And given the cheating in the past, that is really saying something.

For what it's worth here is how this scenario has the other states going. Pretty historically obvious.

Biden, Hawaii(4), Wash,(12), Oregon(7), California(55), Nevada(6), Colorado(9) New Mexico(5), Illinois,(20), Virginia(13),
Wash.DC,(3), Maryland(10), Delaware(3), New Jersey(14),
New York(29), Connecticutt(7), Rhode Island(4), Massachusetts(11), Vermont(3), New Hampshire(4), and Maine(3 for Biden 1 for Trump).

Trump, Alaska(3), Arizona(11), Utah(6), Idaho(4) Montana(3), Wyoming(3)
North Dakota(3), South Dakota(3), Nebraska(4+1-undecided), Kansas(6), Oklahoma(7), Texas(38)
Louisiana(8), Arkansas(6), Missouri(10), Iowa(6)
Mississippi(6) Alabama(9), Tennessee(11), Kentucky(8), Indiana(11), Ohio(18), West Virginia(5),
North Carolina(15), South Carolina(9), Georgia(16), Florida(29).

269-269

Honestly I'd rather see the Dems win it outright than with what I'd be pretty sure was fraud long after the day.

But Of Course I want to see Trump win,
Thank God! Trump is president, again, and not any democrat.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I didn't know giving women a choice was "encouraging" it?

The last 30 years of Democrats' and planned parenthoods' cooperation and actions is pretty well documented, including the intimidation of religious objection to abortion, by funding withholding on an individual level.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
It’s so funny watching conservative clowns donate to the NRA KNOWING they have received money from Russia and had spies all up in the organization.

But, I expect nothing less from anti-American losers, who falsely claim they’re patriots.



I think how I heard Micheal Bloomburg is going to buy 100 Million dollars worth of Ads in the state of Florida in support of Biden.
I wonder what he thinks he is buying, for that kind of money he is going to want something in return.
Talk about anti-American


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GC. I'm struggling with why 60 minutes television show, a tool of the insiders or deep state, would tell me that mail in ballot requests would be 6-1 democrat in one place and 2 of 3 in another.

Wrong! I'm not struggling, what I'm struggling with how they are obviously lying, it goes against such conventional wisdom.

My convention wisdom, and BS meter, says there is no plausible reason why mail in requests would be more democrats, OR republicans,

EXCEPT CHEATING!


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GC. I'm struggling with why 60 minutes television show, a tool of the insiders or deep state, would tell me that mail in ballot requests would be 6-1 democrat in one place and 2 of 3 in another.

Wrong! I'm not struggling, what I'm struggling with how they are obviously lying, it goes against such conventional wisdom.

My convention wisdom, and BS meter, says there is no plausible reason why mail in requests would be more democrats, OR republicans,

EXCEPT CHEATING!



Because Democrats in general aren’t denying COVID. trump honks are willing to stand shoulder to shoulder in line and mouth breathe on each other.


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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
GC. I'm struggling with why 60 minutes television show, a tool of the insiders or deep state, would tell me that mail in ballot requests would be 6-1 democrat in one place and 2 of 3 in another.

Wrong! I'm not struggling, what I'm struggling with how they are obviously lying, it goes against such conventional wisdom.

My convention wisdom, and BS meter, says there is no plausible reason why mail in requests would be more democrats, OR republicans,

EXCEPT CHEATING!


As Portland said, I see no one besides hardcore Trump supporters demanding in person voting. Mail in votes has always been a thing. Smart people are using it more now as a precaution. I have never voted mail in, but I will this year. And I'm not a Democrat or Republican at this point in time.

It's not cheating, it's common sense.

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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
GC. I'm struggling with why 60 minutes television show, a tool of the insiders or deep state, would tell me that mail in ballot requests would be 6-1 democrat in one place and 2 of 3 in another.

Wrong! I'm not struggling, what I'm struggling with how they are obviously lying, it goes against such conventional wisdom.

My convention wisdom, and BS meter, says there is no plausible reason why mail in requests would be more democrats, OR republicans,

EXCEPT CHEATING!


If you don't like those numbers, I have some more you won't like.

Republicans almost always request more early ballots in Florida-Dems have requested more than 700,000 more than republicans.

The Dems have a 3 to 1 advantage in Pennsylvania and North Carolina.

The Dems have a lead of requested ballots in New Hampshire, Ohio and Iowa.

The most striking example is Pennsylvania where 175,000 Dems who sat out 2016 have requested ballots, more than twice the Republicans

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I didn't know giving women a choice was "encouraging" it?

The last 30 years of Democrats' and planned parenthoods' cooperation and actions is pretty well documented, including the intimidation of religious objection to abortion, by funding withholding on an individual level.


Yet it was people from the religious right who killed abortion doctors and blew up abortion clinics. Dr. David Gunn, Doctor Barnett Slepia, Dr. George Tiller.

Woman Who Shot Wichita Abortion Doctor, Bombed Clinics In the 1990's Released From Prison

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article211653329.html

So you call having access to abortion "encouraging it"? Hmmm...


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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
THROW LONG is going to tell you how the General Election could end in a tie and why I think it's at least 10% likely, (barring how I expect the democrats to cheat and steal up to around 5 states 40 days afterwards of course, Of Course of course. )

No matter how the liberal media are lying to us there are only a few battleground states, and there is a real chance this could end up tied.

If you look at who states voted for in the last several elections, and if it tightens down much like it did in 2016, 2008, (The map is really telling, told me Virginia loves Rinos' like McCain and Romney, who knew), well that's establishment, and Biden is establishment, soo, even if 2016 mostly repeats,
We get 4 battleground states, important, to see how real close to a statistical tie this is.

We come to this with Trump having 259, needing 11 to reach 270 to win.
Biden with 222 needing 48 to win,
In this scenario, Trump gets 1 vote out of a Maine district the other 3 go to Biden just like the Trump, Hilary split in 2016.

There are 4 battleground states,
Minnesota, 10 votes, (which is closer than normal but historically Democratic, easy to see a democtatic win by a small margin

Wisconsin, 10 votes, closer than normal, historically democratic but went for Trump in 2016, easy to see Trump winning this one, by a small margin.

Pennsylvania, 20 votes, it's a battleground state, but in this scenario Biden needs to win it, if Trump wins Penn, it's over as he only needs 11, but historically, it's not out of possibilities that Biden gets this one by a small margin.

and Michigan, 16 votes, which went Repbulican in 2016 but by the smallest margin of any state if I recall correctly, So it's not out of possibilities to think it could go for Biden.

Now, Two states give votes to each district and 2 for the winner, Maine, and Nebraska.

In this scenario, needing 270 votes to win, Trump is sitting at 269, Biden at 268, and the 1 district of Nebraska could go to Biden giving a 269-269 tie.

With mail in ballots, different rules per each state, and known election fraud cases in the past, and the FBI saying mail in voting is dangerous for fraud, (per the Sean Hanity show),
and consider, Ohio had something like 600K mail in ballots in 2016, yet as of early Sept, was saying in this Covid year, there were already 1.7million, mail in ballot requests, (so nearly 3 times as many)

Considering that that is just for One State, the idea that we will know who won the election by even 3pm the day after the election is unlikely, yet

with the possibility to pay postal workers to hide ballots, or use known deficits to fradulantly add fake ballots after the fact, with the stakes so high,

I mean how can I believe that a democratic party that never accepted the 2016 election results, with Russian collusion accusations, impeachment accusations, all the constant attacks, unwarranted even,
that they are going to suddenly avoid a little voter fraud because of rules?

So, in spite of the OH Lt Gov, trying to tell me Ohio makes it easy to vote and hard to cheat, there is little anyone can do to convince the other 49 states will be as genuine in their results.
So much so, that I'm already pretty sure this will be By Far, the Least Genuine Election on a national level, in my Lifetime,
And given the cheating in the past, that is really saying something.

For what it's worth here is how this scenario has the other states going. Pretty historically obvious.

Biden, Hawaii(4), Wash,(12), Oregon(7), California(55), Nevada(6), Colorado(9) New Mexico(5), Illinois,(20), Virginia(13),
Wash.DC,(3), Maryland(10), Delaware(3), New Jersey(14),
New York(29), Connecticutt(7), Rhode Island(4), Massachusetts(11), Vermont(3), New Hampshire(4), and Maine(3 for Biden 1 for Trump).

Trump, Alaska(3), Arizona(11), Utah(6), Idaho(4) Montana(3), Wyoming(3)
North Dakota(3), South Dakota(3), Nebraska(4+1-undecided), Kansas(6), Oklahoma(7), Texas(38)
Louisiana(8), Arkansas(6), Missouri(10), Iowa(6)
Mississippi(6) Alabama(9), Tennessee(11), Kentucky(8), Indiana(11), Ohio(18), West Virginia(5),
North Carolina(15), South Carolina(9), Georgia(16), Florida(29).

269-269

Honestly I'd rather see the Dems win it outright than with what I'd be pretty sure was fraud long after the day.

But Of Course I want to see Trump win,
Thank God! Trump is president, again, and not any democrat.



On RCP polling this morning they basically have it as Biden with 222 and Trump with 125 with 191 toss ups.

Out of the toss-ups Biden needs 48 to 270

Of those toss up states that RCP has listed, in the latest polls at this point in time, the lead for Biden in Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada and Arizona are between about 6-10.6 points, well outside the margin of error. That would give Biden another 43 electoral votes to 265.

That basically means that trump would have to win all of the following:

Pennsylvania-Biden is leading there-average just outside margin of error

Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Georgia, Iowa, Texas-within margin of error-Biden has a small lead in Florida, Ohio and North Carolina and trump has a lead in Georgia, Iowa and Texas. But the fact that Iowa and especially Texas have moved out of trumps corner to toss up is amazing. Even in South Carolina-the last 3 polls are trump ahead by 4-6%. They could also move that state to toss up

and then there are a couple small states left like New Hampshire, Maine CD2 and Nebraska CD2-Biden is leading in NH and Maine.

And make no mistake, there is lots of early voting already happening and a large majority of the voters (over 90%) already have their mind made up who they are voting for. The last 2 polls from Quinnipiac and Monmouth state that only 3% of registered voters are undecided

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Trump has done more in 47 months than Biden has in 47 years.

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You mean more to divide our nation, right?


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Trump has done more in 47 months than Biden has in 47 years.
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You mean more to divide our nation, right?


Yes, to topple the US from greatness and turn it into a puppet government for Putin.

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The Onion had no idea they were reporting real news.


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Joe Biden sees Jeff Sessions' granddaughter, reaches to touch her, and Jeff Sessions swats Biden's hand away before he can touch her.

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I didn't know giving women a choice was "encouraging" it?

The last 30 years of Democrats' and planned parenthoods' cooperation and actions is pretty well documented, including the intimidation of religious objection to abortion, by funding withholding on an individual level.


Yet it was people from the religious right who killed abortion doctors and blew up abortion clinics. Dr. David Gunn, Doctor Barnett Slepia, Dr. George Tiller.

Woman Who Shot Wichita Abortion Doctor, Bombed Clinics In the 1990's Released From Prison

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article211653329.html

So you call having access to abortion "encouraging it"? Hmmm...



Even if you listed a thousand examples of people killing abortion Dr's, those examples don't and wouldn't refute the point I made, that planned parenthood and the democrats have forced catholics and the like to have their forced union dues and the like, have to pay for abortions,
it's all very dubious on the part of the left, and it's been known and discussed for a Long time,
and it has Nothing to do with abortion DR's being killed.


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Your polls are all Monty Python Penguined
It's known they only poll known democrats.

If Biden loses New Hampshire he is Monty Python Penguined.

A real count of the voters, 1 vote for 1 voter, would undoubtedly elect Trump, I'm convinced of that.

Yet, with democrat cheating, I expect, helped by the deep state, they will force a lie on the country, in spite of the will of the voters, and I'm thinking it won't be the first time.

Put it this way, I'll explain it,

Say Barney the dinosaur, I'll name it, represents 100 votes.

Now Barney the dinosaur, didn't care about politics because they didn't believe the System could even work for them, and therefore they didn't vote, all 100 of em.

Then lets say, over the years, the democrats, see that Barney the dinosaur didn't vote, yet, they keep losing elections by 53 votes.

So the democrats say, we'll request mail in ballots for Barney the Dinosaur, all 100 of them,
then on election day, the democrats lose the vote by 79 votes

But because the democrats are in control of the deep state, the 100 requests never really went to Barneys' 100 houses, and because BArney didn't care, barney is none the wiser, Barney thinks He or she just didn't vote,
100 times.

So, After the vote, The democrats are in a room, where the 100 Barney the dinosaur ballots' requested' never got filled out, are laying blank on one side,

The count of the ballots showing the democrats lost by 79 votes is on the other side of the room,

And there is a pen in the middle to start filling out ballots,

What do you think is going to happen.

OHH they are alllll democrat votes found in the "mail"

" there aint going to be none republicans found, ...
"how many do you need" , "how many do you need to make the election outcome change?"
That many plus a few may show up, because,

Why make them waist time filling out more, fraudulent ballots, then necessary.

If this wasn't going on, then the number of mail in ballot requests, would match right down the line, 50-50 of the number of type of people who would normally show up at the voting booth.


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Joe Biden sees Jeff Sessions' granddaughter, reaches to touch her, and Jeff Sessions swats Biden's hand away before he can touch her.


He is so, so creepy.


Prepare for Whataboutism.

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Joe Biden sees Jeff Sessions' granddaughter, reaches to touch her, and Jeff Sessions swats Biden's hand away before he can touch her.


He is so, so creepy.


He is creepy and a good reason for him not to be POTUS - I'd much rather have a REAL American President that boasts of grabbing girls vaginas without their consent than this creepy old dude. Or a real man who walks around girls changing rooms at pageants. Or has affairs with porn stars while his wife is pregnant. Less creepy and much more manly

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Yet, with democrat cheating, I expect, helped by the deep state, they will force a lie on the country, in spite of the will of the voters, and I'm thinking it won't be the first time.


Serious question - is there any line of anti-Democratic rhetoric that they feed you that would make you question them? I think you need a broader and more reputable source of information.


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You'd much rather have a party that records people without their knowledge on a Bus,

and Pulls people before Court interrogation on made up accusations, found to be unfounded,
then later convicts the person for "lying", after they ask them so many messed up questions from so many different angles they eventually stumble on a mix up.

And the 2nd paragraph, multiple times.

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