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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Prepare for Whataboutism.


Do you mean like 25 actual "sexual assault" allegations? It's odd how people call some things whataboutisms.


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Joe Biden blasts Bernie in pitch to Wisconsin voters: 'I beat the socialist'
'Do I look like a socialist? Look at my career, my whole career,' Biden said

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-bernie-sanders-beat-the-socialist

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He's right. Yet those on your side keep lying about it.


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Doesn't bother me, I know why he is doing it and know who he is. I would vote for anyone over Trump.

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Biden adds "For Real" to the Pledge of Allegiance
trending. (HE said it!)
kidding! C'mon man.


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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
Your polls are all Monty Python Penguined
It's known they only poll known democrats.

If Biden loses New Hampshire he is Monty Python Penguined.

A real count of the voters, 1 vote for 1 voter, would undoubtedly elect Trump, I'm convinced of that.

Yet, with democrat cheating, I expect, helped by the deep state, they will force a lie on the country, in spite of the will of the voters, and I'm thinking it won't be the first time.

Put it this way, I'll explain it,

Say Barney the dinosaur, I'll name it, represents 100 votes.

Now Barney the dinosaur, didn't care about politics because they didn't believe the System could even work for them, and therefore they didn't vote, all 100 of em.

Then lets say, over the years, the democrats, see that Barney the dinosaur didn't vote, yet, they keep losing elections by 53 votes.

So the democrats say, we'll request mail in ballots for Barney the Dinosaur, all 100 of them,
then on election day, the democrats lose the vote by 79 votes

But because the democrats are in control of the deep state, the 100 requests never really went to Barneys' 100 houses, and because BArney didn't care, barney is none the wiser, Barney thinks He or she just didn't vote,
100 times.

So, After the vote, The democrats are in a room, where the 100 Barney the dinosaur ballots' requested' never got filled out, are laying blank on one side,

The count of the ballots showing the democrats lost by 79 votes is on the other side of the room,

And there is a pen in the middle to start filling out ballots,

What do you think is going to happen.

OHH they are alllll democrat votes found in the "mail"

" there aint going to be none republicans found, ...
"how many do you need" , "how many do you need to make the election outcome change?"
That many plus a few may show up, because,

Why make them waist time filling out more, fraudulent ballots, then necessary.

If this wasn't going on, then the number of mail in ballot requests, would match right down the line, 50-50 of the number of type of people who would normally show up at the voting booth.



Its really hard to even understand what you are trying to say.

But I will try to answer about the polling.
Because polling changes over time, I use an average of the polls that are used by RealClearPolitics and 538.
For example, On Wisconsin, I think I said Biden was up by 6. That was an average of 9 different polls that were taken in the last 3 weeks-All of the polls were Biden up between 4 and 10 points. Some of the polls used are NY Times, CBS, CNN but also Yougov, Fox News and Rasmussen-so it is quite consistent, and a pretty good sampling-and all were outside the margin of error +/-3%

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I actually think it would be smart for Biden to distance himself from Bernie. Most Americans don't want socialism. Well, most working Americans don't want socialism. So, this is a smart move by Biden's camp.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I actually think it would be smart for Biden to distance himself from Bernie. Most Americans don't want socialism. Well, most working Americans don't want socialism. So, this is a smart move by Biden's camp.


He made some unity task force with Bernie back in July. I think he is trying to play both sides.


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No doubt. And I don't blame him for that. It's politics.

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Trump attacks Omar for criticizing US: 'How did you do where you came from?'

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/51...e-you-came-from

umm, she is now an american citizen. she has just as much right as anybody else to criticize this country and advocate for progress.

trump is trash.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Trump attacks Omar for criticizing US: 'How did you do where you came from?'

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/51...e-you-came-from

umm, she is now an american citizen. she has just as much right as anybody else to criticize this country and advocate for progress.

trump is trash.


That man you call trash is your president! He will be re-elected in November!


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GC. Bloomburg pays off 20 millon dollars worth of Felons fines which would allow 31,000 fellons ability to vote.
Has also pledged 100 million to adds in Florida.

Campaign law violations? buying votes?

Investigation?

Says the Mark Levin Show.

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Anybody see the new republican report on hunter Biden?

Lmfao!! They best they had was it was “problematic”.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-secu...ial-biden-probe

Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

So uneventful, it doesn’t even deserve its own thread.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Anybody see the new republican report on hunter Biden?

Lmfao!! They best they had was it was “problematic”.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-secu...ial-biden-probe

Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

So uneventful, it doesn’t even deserve its own thread.


except it does deserve it's own thread because that was the reason Trump tried to coerce Ukraine to do his bidding and why Trump withheld funds that were already appropriated ... oh, sorry, I was forgetting. #factsdontmatter


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Originally Posted By: tastybrownies
Originally Posted By: Swish
Trump attacks Omar for criticizing US: 'How did you do where you came from?'

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/51...e-you-came-from

umm, she is now an american citizen. she has just as much right as anybody else to criticize this country and advocate for progress.

trump is trash.


That man you call trash is your president! He will be re-elected in November!


Not my president. He’s not just trash either. He’s human scum.


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Biden wants you to believe economy will be strong if he wins, here's why he's wrong
Democrats are rewriting history, celebrating the Obama record on the economy as if these were the salad days for America

The Democrats are rewriting history, celebrating the Obama record on the economy as if these were the salad days for America. In Washington parlance, that is called "misremembering." The reality is that the Obama tax-and-regulate agenda led to the weakest economic recovery from a recession since the Great Depression.

Last week, the Census Bureau released its economic report -- the gold standard of measuring the finances of American families.

In President Donald Trump's first three years in office, real median family income for Americans rose by more than $6,400. In Obama's EIGHT years in office, the increase in incomes was closer to $4,000. Black Americans made more income gains in three years under Trump than eight years under Obama.

But Biden's agenda is to return to a regulation binge -- in banking, finance, environment, consumer affairs and health care.

The rumors are swirling that Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a leading Biden economic policy adviser and confidant, could be Treasury secretary or regulatory czar.

The radical Warren policy proposals that Biden has now adopted, including entirely carbon emission-free electricity (with a loss of up to 5 million blue-collar jobs) and the strictest financial regulations ever. Stocks and retirement portfolios could take a beating.

For example, Warren and many Biden economists are advocating adding to the Fed's current dual mandate of promoting stable prices and maximum employment. Now they want a mandate that will use the Fed monetary policy to equalize incomes. How? By printing money? Forcing companies to pay a superminimum wage?

Retirement savings of American mom-and-pop investors and financial traders of all shapes and sizes could be at risk if independent analyses of credit rating agencies are compromised by government mandates. The Biden Democrats want the feds to intervene in these bond ratings to promote social justice, environmentalism and other goals that may be worthy but that steer retirement and other investment funds away from the highest returns.

Trump wants health care freedom that gives patients and doctors more say of what kind of insurance they can buy and what kind of procedures are best for them. Biden wants to double down on the Affordable Care Act, which has driven up health costs and prohibited Americans from purchasing more affordable health plans.

The costs of all these "consumer protections" fall hardest on the lowest-income families. Casey Mulligan of the University of Chicago estimates that the Biden regulatory stranglehold and his ban on fracking would reduce the incomes of the poorest households by about 15%. The average household would see losses of about 4% by going back to the Obama regulatory regime.

Socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders has suggested that the Biden administration would be the most progressive and radical in history if it takes office. He may be called "Lunch Bucket Joe," but for blue-collar America, the Biden agenda would be a real blow to the wallet.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/biden-economy-strong-win

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What a terrible article. It's full of hysterical paranoia. It's as bad as those crazy articles about the United States being similar to Nazi Germany.

I don't know if anyone else [on this board] feels this way, but when I read such propaganda, I actually have an opposite reaction than the one the author wants me to have.

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People with extreme amount of confirmation bias love this crap.

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Agreed. They use crap like this to get on their almighty soap box and shove their opinions down our throats. I'm so sick of the extremists on both sides.

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75 straight month of job growth under Obama/ Biden.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
75 straight month of job growth under Obama/ Biden.


with a lowered federal deficit.


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FBI warns disinformation campaigns may target 2020 election results

Americans should look to state election officials for trusted results in November, the agency warned.

Americans should look to state election officials for trusted results in November, the FBI said Tuesday, as bad actors may try to sow chaos while votes are still being counted.

In a public service announcement with the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, the FBI cautioned that certifying the results of the U.S. election could take weeks and that "Foreign actors and cybercriminals could exploit the time required to certify and announce elections' results."

One potential scenario the agency warned of is hackers' defacing websites to indicate false election results, causing chaos and confusion without affecting vote tallying systems.

Hackers widely believed by analysts to be associated with Russian military intelligence have carried out such operations in Eastern European countries in recent years. During Ukraine's 2014 presidential election, Russian hackers defaced an official Ukrainian government website to display false results, leading to days of uncertainty over the true winner.

The government warning does not cite domestic actors as potential sources of disinformation, despite evidence of at least one domestic troll farm in the style of Russia's Internet Research Agency that inflamed U.S. political tensions ahead of the 2016 election.

It does, however, point specifically to state and local election officials as "trustworthy," but it does not mention federal officials. President Donald Trump has repeatedly made false claims about voting by mail to indicate that it is an invalid process, particularly regarding states with Democratic election chiefs, like Colorado and Michigan.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi...esults-n1240781


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Judge denies Eric Trump's request to delay deposition until after election
The president's son must be deposed by Oct. 7.
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September 23, 2020, 4:05 PM
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Judge Arthur Engoron has ordered President Donald Trump's son to appear for a deposition by Oct. 7, denying Eric Trump's request to wait until after the election.

Engoron said the argument to delay providing testimony was "unpersuasive" because "neither the petitioner nor this court is bound by timelines of the national election."

The New York Attorney General's Office on Wednesday had sought to compel testimony from Eric Trump as part of an investigation into whether the Trump Organization improperly inflated certain assets to obtain tax benefits it otherwise would not have been entitled to receive.

Eric Trump had offered to sit for a deposition after Election Day, citing a busy travel schedule on behalf of the campaign, but he "will no longer be able to delay his interview and will be sitting down with investigators in my office no later than Oct. 7," said New York Attorney General Letitia James. "To be clear, no entity or individual is allowed to dictate how or when our investigation will proceed or set the parameters of a lawful investigation."



"The mere ground of personal inconvenience isn't a basis to delay compliance," Colangelo said during a video hearing before Engoron.


An attorney for Eric Trump, Alan Futerfas, said the proposed delay resulted from a change in attorneys so the president's son is represented by counsel separate from the company.

"There is a massive amount of material that is involved in this investigation," Futerfas said. "We need time to go through these materials. We need time to prepare our client."

Futerfas also reminded the judge about the approaching election: "Eric Trump is a vital and integral part of that, and he's traveling just about seven days a week."

During the same hearing, Colangelo said the Trump Organization was improperly withholding about four dozen records from investigators and he balked at the company's claim the documents are protected by attorney-client privilege.

"There's no evidence they relate to a legal purpose and in about 44 of them they were copied to a third party and the privilege is waived," Colangelo said.




"We've been very cooperative with the attorney general throughout the investigation," said Trump Organization attorney Lawrence Rosen.

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The Trump campaign is reportedly 'discussing contingency plans to bypass election results'
The Week
Brendan Morrow
,The Week•September 23, 2020

President Trump's campaign is discussing "contingency plans" that would involve bypassing the result of November's election, reports The Atlantic.

The report delves into possible scenarios if Trump apparently loses the 2020 presidential election but doesn't concede, noting that although we're used to electors being selected based on the popular vote, "nothing in the Constitution says it has to be that way." Citing Republican Party sources, The Atlantic says that Trump's campaign is "discussing contingency plans to bypass election results and appoint loyal electors in battleground states where Republicans hold the legislative majority."

The campaign would reportedly assert that this step was necessary due to claims of supposed voter fraud, which experts have noted is extraordinarily rare, ahead of the "safe harbor" deadline to appoint 538 electors on Dec. 8.

"Trump would ask state legislators to set aside the popular vote and exercise their power to choose a slate of electors directly," The Atlantic reports. "The longer Trump succeeds in keeping the vote count in doubt, the more pressure legislators will feel to act before the safe-harbor deadline expires."

A Trump campaign legal adviser who spoke to The Atlantic said that in this scenario, "the state legislatures will say, 'All right, we've been given this constitutional power. We don't think the results of our own state are accurate, so here's our slate of electors that we think properly reflect the results of our state." Lawrence Tabas, chair of the Pennsylvania Republican Party, also told The Atlantic he has discussed the direct appointment of electors with the Trump campaign, saying, "I've mentioned it to them, and I hope they're thinking about it too." The Trump campaign said it is "fighting for a free and fair election."

This potential scenario is just one part of the broader piece in which experts warn "conditions are ripe for a constitutional crisis."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-campaign-reportedly-discussing-contingency-153100735.html


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Why in the world would anyone commit to anything pertaining to losing?

I decline to commit to a peaceful transfer of posting if my head falls off and my wife takes over!

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If he legit loses on the 3rd, he should step down. However, we all know what the dem's will do if it's close..........they'll take a week, 2 weeks, a month, or more saying "we haven't counted all the mail in ballots yet", or "Russia rigged the mail in ballots"

That's why mass mail in balloting is idiotic imo.

If masks work, in person voting should be the norm for the vast, vast majority. If masks don't work, why are we wearing them?

I'm calling it right now: If Hiden loses, the dems won't quit protesting, probably trying another impeachment, whining away for the next 4 years.

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I'm calling it right now: If Hiden loses, the dems won't quit protesting, probably trying another impeachment, whining away for the next 4 years.


It will be more than that. It's probably the biggest reason why gun and ammo sales are off the charts.

The sad thing is that so many of us want to unite and be peaceful. But, there are too many that won't embrace that notion and the media is feeding them on a daily basis.

I've tried. I mean.........really tried. Countless others have as well. All that work is being wasted by selfish folks who only see things from their eyes.

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It's highly unlikely the election results are known on November 3rd. Several state Supreme Courts, such as PA, have ruled that votes postmarked, but received within 3 days after the election are to be counted.

Some states do not even begin to count the mail-in and absentee ballots until the day of election.

Our republican Secretary of State has repeatedly stated the safety of mail-in voting.

If in-person voting is mandatory, than the Election Day should be a National Holiday.

Trump is the one already signaling the election will be a fraud and sowing doubt and hinting at litigation.

If there was evidence of widespread voter fraud by mail, I could rationalize the point. There is not. The Trump Administration had the opportunity to present to the PA Supreme Court evidence of wide spread, mail-in voter fraud as they claimed and was unable to do so, hence mail in voting stood.

I do agree with your first point, that yes, Trump should step down in the event of a loss on Election night. If the race is close it should not be called on election night.

Ohioans alone have already requested over 2M absentee ballots.

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If you are thinking Civil War, well, that can't happen.

A Civil War is fought between fairly equal sides who are equally qualified to do battle.

There are 150 million Americans who love this Country so an organized group of radical blue haired kids wearing their sisters pants are in no way equal to that fight.

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Soros will just provide them with bath salts, they’ll be fine.


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pfft, we've had a constitutional crisis since the day Trump was elected.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
If you are thinking Civil War, well, that can't happen.

A Civil War is fought between fairly equal sides who are equally qualified to do battle.

There are 150 million Americans who love this Country so an organized group of radical blue haired kids wearing their sisters pants are in no way equal to that fight.


Then why are republicans so afeard of BLM and ANTIFA. You won't talk like that when they come to your house...

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Whoa...............I thought they were peaceful.?

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Not when they come for the fascist.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
If you are thinking Civil War, well, that can't happen.

A Civil War is fought between fairly equal sides who are equally qualified to do battle.

There are 150 million Americans who love this Country so an organized group of radical blue haired kids wearing their sisters pants are in no way equal to that fight.


Then why are republicans so afeard of BLM and ANTIFA. You won't talk like that when they come to your house...


We only fear the effects these domestic enemies will have on our great Nation.

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Not when they come for the fascist.


Endorsing violence against those you disagree with is so.........ocd. Thanks for yet more proof.

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