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I like Reuters. I also like BBC America.

Anybody notice that after two cops were shot, Louisville still did not make the anarchist cities list? Hmmm...

I never knew that blm members were paid servants of the people sworn to protect and serve.

It's amazing how when push comes to shove some will compare the acts of the police to blm when they think blm is the scum of the earth. That speaks volumes.

The city of Louisville actually banned no knock warrants after her death so this wouldn't happen again. It was a no knock warrant. They actually named it Breonna’s Law in her name.

Now there is a debate as to whether it was "served as a a no knock warrant". Which means there is controversy around whether they identified themselves or not. But it was most certainly written as a no knock warrant.

So nothing you posted disputes that it was issued as a no knock warrant just like I said. Thanks.

I did not say whether they identified themselves or not. There is a dispute about that. And there most certainly is......



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From the NYT article I posted a link to on page two.


While the department had received court approval for a “no-knock” entry, the orders were changed before the raid to “knock and announce,” meaning that the police had to identify themselves.
The officers have said they did announce themselves, but Mr. Walker said he did not hear anythin

Also the article said

The police had been investigating two men who they believed were selling drugs out of a house that was far from Ms. Taylor’s home. But a judge had also signed a warrant allowing the police to search Ms. Taylor’s residence because the police said they believed that one of the men had used her apartment to receive packages. Ms. Taylor had been dating that man on and off for several years but had recently severed ties with him, according to her family’s lawyer.

https://news.yahoo.com/fact-checking-8-myths-breonna-142332573.html

Par for the course from you. Attack the source, not the facts.

USA Today good enough for you?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/23/us/breonna-taylor-case-people/index.html CNN?

His own words:

Rule #1 of owning and or firing a gun: KNOW what you're shooting at.

Is her death a tragedy? Absolutely. Can it be learned from? I hope so.

But the fallacy that the cops were at the wrong address is just that. A fallacy. The reporting that she was shot in bed is, a lie, even by Walkers own word.

As he stated, this is important, too,

So, even though a 'no knock' warrant was held, the cops still knocked. Interesting. And then, things fall apart. Cops, and 1 witness, say the cops identified themselves. Walker says they didn't, but he still fired at........?

IF people listen to the police, things get easier, and I have said and will say again the white lady in Ohio at a jr. high football game that wasn't wearing a mask, and a black cop came up to her and asked her to, and she refused, and argued, etc, got tased...........hey, had she just listened, ain't no issue.

Fight the cops, they fight back. Walker, the mom.....

Are there examples of people obeying the orders of an officer, and it still ends bad? Sure. But not many, not near as many as the press would have you believe.

You may wish to go back and actually read my initial post. But probably not. If you would have you would not be posting this gibberish at me.

I made it plain that once he shot at the officers, the officers had every right to return fire. I know you won't let that fact get in your way but I thought I would provide it to you anyway.

The person of interest the cops were after named in the warrant was her ex-boyfriend....

Glover was a focus in a narcotics probe by Louisville police that eventually led officers to execute a "no-knock" warrant on Taylor's home in March.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/27/us/breonna-taylor-jamarcus-glover-arrest/index.html

He has since been arrested for the actual crimes that caused the warrant to begin with.

Since he no longer even lived there, they sent those cops to the wrong address. Had they done the investigation properly, they would have known that.

I made it clear it was the process that was to blame. And just so we're clear, announcing you are a police officer is the question here. Not "if he heard a knock".

And I gave you a report of TWELVE witnesses who did NOT hear the cops announce who they were. That's why I claimed it was disputed. I did not claim who was right and who was wrong as you have done based on some right wing rag.

Walker wasn't "fighting the cops". Some of the depths you sink to never cease to astound me.

So much mishmash in this post of yours.

First, you said the cops were at the wrong address. That has been proven false. PERIOD.

I won't even go into more, other than your last statement that walker wasn't fighting the cops. Well, Larry, I guess technically you are correct. It wasn't hand to hand combat. He just fired a 9mm at them, hitting 1. So, technically, yup, he wasn't fighting. Just shooting, at what he even ADMITS he didn't know what he was shooting at.

The lies you make up amaze me, too.

It's like .....I think it was The Atlantic that wrote an article about Trump, in France, using un named sources yet again...........hey, all that matters is the allegation, not the facts.

But it's cool, cause you tell us all the time how unbiased you are politically. Evidence proves other wise, but Larry gotta be Larry.

Man, great tweet.

Starts off with a sentence fragment. Then says "At event..." instead "An event..." And it never got any better. I would not say I am an articulate person, but goodness, have just a little pride and show some respect for the English language when you create your public messages.

I better clarify something. I am not getting on the poster who posted the tweet. I'm criticizing the author of the tweet.

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I read it on the internet so it must be true!

This site sounds like it's about a notch higher in the slime than 4chan. And before you accuse me of attacking the source, I absolutely AM ATTACKING THE SOURCE and laughing at you.

Well all these police apologists are just bending over backwards trying to justify the shooting of an innocent woman. All the half truths being
written on this board shows the level of ignorance to actual facts. SO instead of looking at these now-schmoe links, let just look at the timeline
from Louisville:

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/ne...ing/3467112001/

So if you read the article, the first problem is why the no-knock warrant was even granted. Breona’s only contact with the ex-BF Gordon was in January when the Gordon had a package sent to her house. Thats Jan 12th. After that, there was NO other contact with the ex-BF. the EX uses her telephone number on a police complaint.. thats it!! For 2 months, there was no RECON WORK DONE = shotty police work!!!

So on March 13th, they execute the no knock warrant on Breona’s address. Again, the police only notice that there is a light from the TV in the bedroom and thought she was alone. But that means they blew recon again because Breona and the current BF are asleep in the bedroom = SHOTTY POLICE WORK AGAIN!!

Then once the police execute (* key work for the whole night *) the no knock warrant, 12 witnesses say they DO NOT HEAR THE POLICE. Only 1 says they heard the police. And when in the hell is anyone coherent at 1am in the morning, asleep, after being out on a date, gonna hear the police at their door?? You so called experts think Breona and her BF should have heard the police out of a sleep and invited them in for cupcakes.

But the most telling event of the whole night is that the BF calls 911, during a home invasion and calls 911. That proves he did not know the cops were knocking down his door. The BF thought that is was the ex-BF trying to come in.

Also, BF was a registered gun owner, why shouldn’t he be able to protect HIS LIFE AND FAMILY?? But of course, the BF was suppose to look through the dark, use his X-ray vision and see that the cops trying to knock down the door.

So al that shotty police work got a innocent woman killed!!.. PERIOD!!

Smart gun owners NEVER shot at something unless they know exactly what they're shooting at.

So these cops aren’t smart gun owners. And where were the body cams? A no knock warrant and no body cams? Pffft screw these cops. Another example of systemic racism in another city’s police department that trump and his supporters refuse to acknowledge.

No justice no peace. BLM

The cops were being shot at before firing themselves. (The entire situation turned dramatically at that point.) Is that your definition of systemic racism? I am yet to see a definition that makes any sense.

Don't break the law...when you do, don't resist arrest...don't fight with cops...don't shoot at cops...don't get killed. Pretty damn simple. Let's start the message right there. Or is THAT systemic racism?

Ask Tamir Rice, or Duncan Lemp, or Atatiana Jefferson.... and a long list of others about their interactions with scummy cops. Systemic racism is real whether you’re blind to it or not.

If you are in a car and the other passengers start shooting at police, there is a good chance you are going to get shot.

If you're looking for a high school buddy and someone tells you where he lives, then you go there and he doesn't live there anymore, are you at the right address or were you sent to the wrong address? I thought even you could comprehend that.

The man named in the warrant was her ex-boyfriend who didn't live there anymore. Buy a clue arch. Or even lease one for test drive.



Unless you can prove he knew they were cops, he didn't know he was "fighting the cops". Because that was your claim. Your claim is he was he shouldn't have been fighting the cops. Then in your own post you claim he didn't know they were cops. So which is it brainiac? He didn't even know they were cops or he shouldn't be fighting them? because if you don't know who they are, you have no idea they are cops. You want to have it both ways and that doesn't work.



Yet you're the one on here making them up.



Okay Elmer, let me clue you in. I can't stand Trump. I point out everything he says and does that are stupid. what I don't do is make things up. You on the other hand love making excuses for Pocapornstar.

Yeah, you can call me Larry all you want to Elmer.

That's very true. And if the cops get shot at first, they have every right to return fire.

And that's what the hell they did. Period. So quit yammering non stop larry.

Oh, dude also broke the first rule of firing a gun: KNOW what you are shooting at. Period.

If he doesn't shoot, no one dies. Period.

Listen Elmer, I've said that from the beginning. It is true that had he not have shot first none of this would have happened. It's also true that had the warrant not have sent them to an address that the prime suspect in the case no longer lived at none of this would have happened.

Period. End of discussion.



Incorrect. I know the main stream media would have you believe that, but it is incorrect. They were are the proper and correct address.

Then can you explain how the system got the address "right" since the prime suspect on the warrant no longer lived at that address? No, you really can't.

The main suspect of the warrant was James Glover.

wow, we still got people trying to defend this.

Arch,
That is some fantasy Island MONSENSE! The Police did not announce themselves, were in plain cloths and were knocking down the door into the apt. the BF was a registered gun owner AND in no way knew who it was on the other side of the door. He called 911 stating someone was shooting into his place.

Let me ask you, if someone is coming through your door at 1am with your wife and kids in the house, your going to wait until you see them...please!!.. stop it.

Swish,
folks will go to great lengths to justify bad police work, cop shooting innocent victims!!

Pit, I believe they raided four or five houses at the same time. Any residence that was associated with James Glover, not just his own. That's just what I read, I cannot vouch for the accuracy of that information.

James Glovers name was actually on the warrant for that address.

Yes. And I've done it twice. Although, truthfully, the second time the guy was just beating on the door - he didn't break in.

Rule 1 of shooting a gun: KNOW what you are shooting at.

And you guys think cities are burning warzones?

Nobody has ever run into my place in the middle of the night.

Parts of some cities are, but that's neither here nor there because I didn't say that, did I?

I was asked a question, and I replied to it.

Kentucky State Police: Ballistics Don't Support (or rule out) The AG Conclusion that Breonna Taylor's Boyfriend Fired the Shot which Hit the Louisville Cop

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/ne...cop/3552007001/

j/c...

rut-ro...

Update: https://www.yahoo.com/news/experts-ballistics-report-shows-louisville-004515632.html

j/c:

Cops release photos that were tagged 'partners in crime' from Breonna Taylor's boyfriend's phone that show them both holding gun believed to be the one he used to fire at police as messages also suggest he was selling drugs

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...estigation.html