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Originally Posted By: mgh888
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53353404

President Trump has criticised plans to expand postal voting in November's presidential election, claiming "there's tremendous fraud involved".

But Ellen Weintraub, commissioner of the Federal Election Commission, has said: "There's simply no basis for the conspiracy theory that voting by mail causes fraud."

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What evidence is there of fraud?
President Trump has said: "You get thousands and thousands of people sitting in somebody's living room, signing ballots all over the place."

Critics say people could vote more than once via absentee ballots and in person.

But numerous nationwide and state-level studies over the years have not revealed evidence of major, widespread fraud.

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But the rate of voting fraud overall in the US is between 0.00004% and 0.0009%, according to a 2017 study by the Brennan Center for Justice.

A Washington Post review of the 2016 election found one proven case of postal voting fraud.

And a voter fraud database collated by Arizona State University between 2000 and 2012, found 491 cases of postal ballot fraud out of hundreds of millions of votes.

Oregon has held postal elections since 2000 and has only reported 14 fraudulent votes attempted by mail.

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Ellen Weintraub seems to be a die-hard Democrat who's trying to run the FEC like it's her own personal fiefdom.

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Unfortunately, while Weintraub’s tweets and interviews might make for good soundbites and clickbait, they are harming the legitimacy of the institution she purports to serve. Commissioners are meant to be independent and neutral arbiters of campaign finance law. Yet Weintraub’s statements indicate that she has prematurely judged matters that could come before the FEC, and that she radically rejects any legal perspective other than her own. Not only that, she risks misleading the public about what the FEC does and what campaign finance law really says. Not surprisingly, Weintraub’s activities are causing consternation and confusion in several quarters, including on Capitol Hill, and people are starting to ask questions, including about her possible misuse of government resources for ideological and political purposes.


Weintraub has used her position at the FEC to take on the president of the United States. She repeatedly challenged his allegations of voter fraud in 2016 in New Hampshire and, in the context of discussing the outcome of the 2016 presidential election, questioned the legitimacy of the Electoral College. The FEC has no authority over either of these issues. Weintraub nonetheless used her official title and Commission letterhead in her public attacks on the president, which made it look as if she was acting on the agency’s behalf and with other commissioners’ support, neither of which was true. By creating these false impressions, Weintraub risked both misleading the public about the FEC’s role and undermining the public’s confidence in the agency.


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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/10/22/fec-ellen-weintraub-campaign-finance-law-229872

Post the Right leaning source too.

Trump isn't playing by the rules and is fearmongering baselessly. I don't have a problem with what she did. It's not any different than the crap Nunes and others tried to do with investigations and commissions into the FBI and Biden etc ... all of which turned out to be LIES.


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Lindsey Graham sounds like a televangelist in that clip.

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FEC commissioner responds to Trump: 'We do not "get rid of" ballots'

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/51...-rid-of-ballots

The article is posted at the link but here's what Trump said that created the response...

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“Get rid of the ballots and you’ll have a very peaceful — there won't be a transfer, frankly. There will be a continuation,” Trump said. “The ballots are out of control. You know it, and you know who knows it better than anyone else? The Democrats know it better than anyone else.”


Can Trump supporters really not see what a danger he is to our democracy?

For anyone even still questioning WHY Trump wants to undermine mail in voting and "get rid of the ballots", it's not complicated....

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Biden voters twice as likely than Trump supporters to vote by mail in November, survey finds

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...nds/3394795001/

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Originally Posted By: Milk Man
Lindsey Graham sounds like a televangelist in that clip.


He’s has a similar moral compass. Which is to say, none.


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j/c...

Just received this in the mail. I though the message was mail in voting was sure to create widespread voter fraud and everyone must go to the polls?!?


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Ohio Republicans must be disgruntled about something.


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Originally Posted By: mgh888
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/10/22/fec-ellen-weintraub-campaign-finance-law-229872

Post the Right leaning source too.

Trump isn't playing by the rules and is fearmongering baselessly. I don't have a problem with what she did. It's not any different than the crap Nunes and others tried to do with investigations and commissions into the FBI and Biden etc ... all of which turned out to be LIES.



I didn't read the article as it's a year old...


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I really don't like Lindsay Graham and will not vote for him here in SC, but this quote from Wilson really turns me off:

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Sounds like guys like you, 888, Perfect, Swish, and Pit. Big time turn-off.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Ohio Republicans must be disgruntled about something.
Nah bro, they want their people to vote by mail, just not the left.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog


Sounds like guys like you, 888, Perfect, Swish, and Pit. Big time turn-off.


Again, not here to turn you on so no idea what to say about this... Maybe try tinder instead of dawgtalkers if that's what you are looking for...

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Perhaps we should stop with the nazi talk and start with the mussolini discussion


https://www.yahoo.com/news/historians-election-experts-warn-trump-213845441.html


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Historians and election experts warn Trump is behaving like Mussolini and despots that the US usually condemns

John Haltiwanger 13 hours ago


President Donald Trump has refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses the election.
Historians and experts on fascism warn that Trump is behaving like the dictators the US is often leading the way to condemn on the global stage.
"This is the way dictators come to power," historian Michael Beschloss warned in an MSNBC appearance on Thursday.

President Donald Trump is refusing to commit to a peaceful transfer of power, threatening to shatter a tradition that lies at the heart of the democratic process in the US. There are serious concerns among scholars that Trump is putting America's democracy in mortal danger.

Combined with Trump's relentless disinformation campaign, celebration of violence against journalists, and incitement of armed militias, historians and election experts warn that the president is mirroring the behavior of despots that the US generally leads the way in condemning before the world.

"I've been an election observer in broken authoritarian countries, and let me tell you: Trump's behavior would be swiftly and unequivocally condemned by all international election monitors if it was happening elsewhere. He is behaving like the despots past presidents condemned," Brian Klaas, a political scientist at the University College London, tweeted on Friday.

When asked whether he would commit to a peaceful transfer of power earlier this week, Trump suggested ballots would be thrown away.


"We're going to have to see what happens," Trump said when asked whether he would accept the final results of the election. "Get rid of the ballots and...there won't be a transfer, frankly. There will be a continuation."

Trump has given the country myriad signs that he will not concede under any circumstances, placing the US on the precipice of a political crisis the likes of which it has never experienced before. The president has repeatedly pushed the bogus assertion that the expanded access to mail-in voting for the 2020 election — a move designed to protect vulnerable people amid a pandemic — will lead to widespread voter fraud.

Top experts on democracy have been warning for years that Trump exhibits authoritarian tendencies. But their consternation appears to have ramped up significantly as Election Day draws closer and Trump essentially signals that he plans to do whatever it takes to stay in power.

'This is the way dictators come to power'
MSNBC's Rachel Maddow on Thursday asked historian Michael Beschloss if he could provide another example of a US president suggesting an election "ought to be disregarded."


"You want to go into history to look for something like this? Go into Italian history and look at Mussolini. This is the way dictators come to power," Beschloss said in response, comparing Trump to the fascist Italian leader Benito Mussolini.

"[Trump is] telling you what he intends to do. And we've got to make very sure that in the next five and half weeks and after, that we do not get into a situation where...Donald Trump announces that he's won and puts us in a situation where our democracy is being stolen minute by minute. This is not a drill," Beschloss added.


Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a New York University historian who's written extensively on Mussolini, agrees with Beschloss that Trump's behavior mirrors that of the Italian fascist dictator. She noted that Mussolini was not immediately a dictator, but gradually consolidated power.

"The clearest parallel is that Mussolini was prime minister of a democratic coalition government from 1922-1925. During that time, he slowly chipped away at democratic institutions, insulting the press, using violence against the left, joking that he would be in office for 20 years, establishing a militia and a legislative body (the Grand Council) loyal to him," Ben-Ghiat told Insider.


"[Mussolini] bought off elites with privatizations of major industries and by ending worker and peasant strikes. In 1924, to consolidate power, he had a law passed that drew accusations of fraud but gave him a majority. He had his main opponent, Socialist leader Giacomo Matteotti, killed for accusing him of fixing the election and for threatening to reveal his financial corruption — and then he declared dictatorship in 1925 to escape a special investigation," Ben-Ghiat added.


David I. Kertzer, author of the Pulitzer Prize-winning "The Pope and Mussolini," told Insider that comparing Trump and Mussolini does "a disservice" to the Italian leader given he "read newspapers every day in four languages, followed policy issues closely, played the violin and loved classical music, and was not particularly interested in lining his own pocket (although there was no lack of corruption in his regime)."

"What the present moment in American politics does make me appreciate more is how Italy, a parliamentary democracy, could so quickly become a dictatorship," Kertzer added.

Kertzer noted that Mussolini said "people were like sheep" and "craved being followers," adding, "Like Trump, he had very little in the way of strong ideological beliefs himself, and knew the power of emotional rather than rational appeals, and of the power of repeating simple, emotionally powerful yet substantively empty phrases (Make America Great Again)."


To Kertzer, the most striking parallel between Trump and Mussolini is that similar to the Italian fascist dictator, the president has enjoyed strong support from religious leaders despite not having "a religious bone in his body."

"Mussolini could solidify his dictatorship only by reaching a deal with the pope and gaining the support of the Church hierarchy, in a totally amoral exchange: he would give the Church leaders what they wanted (ending separation of church and state, religious instruction in schools etc) and the religious leaders would throw their support behind him," Kertzer said.

Recent research suggests the US is heading toward autocracy under Trump
Trump has spent the past four years eroding democratic norms and institutions at an astonishing rate.

A project that monitors the health of democracy across the world, Varieties of Democracy (V-Dem), in its 2020 findings said the US has become more autocratic in the Trump era. V-Dem measures hundreds of different attributes of democracy — including freedom of expression, free and fair elections, and levels of government corruption, among many others — and the project involves over 3,300 scholars and other experts worldwide.


"The United States – former vanguard of liberal democracy – has lost its way," V-Dem's 2020 report said, adding that the US "is the only country in Western Europe and North America suffering from substantial autocratization."

Over the course of the past week, Trump at rallies repeatedly applauded an incident in which a journalist was struck with a rubber bullet fired by police during a protest, prompting laughter and cheers from supporters.

Last month, a caravan of Trump supporters drove into Portland with the sole purpose of antagonizing anti-racism protesters. Their presence in the Oregon city led to clashes that turned deadly. Trump referred to them as "GREAT
PATRIOTS!" as he simultaneously condemned those protesting against racism and police brutality.

The president in recent months has moved from joking about removing term limits to suggesting he's "entitled" to a third term because he was impeached.


Mary Trump, the president's niece, on Thursday warned that Americans should take her uncle's election threats seriously. She said Trump would go "farther than you can possibly imagine" to stay in power because he's afraid of potentially facing prosecution for tax fraud and obstruction of justice after becoming a private citizen again.

"We have no idea how bad this is going to get," Mary Trump said.


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I think I could put a group of 10 year olds in a room alone and they could come up with better voting protocols than what the political parties have come up with here in the U.S.

Seriously, to all you Dems and Repubs, where do you think all this system manipulation to control the election outcome leads to in the long run? Are you all trying to lay the ground work for armed conflict and bloodshed? Because it is starting to seem that way.

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Voter suppression will eventually have that impact.


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This is relevant:

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MINNEAPOLIS — Over three months ago, a majority of the Minneapolis City Council pledged to defund the city’s police department, making a powerful statement that reverberated across the country. It shook up Capitol Hill and the presidential race, shocked residents, delighted activists and changed the trajectory of efforts to overhaul the police during a crucial window of tumult and political opportunity.

Now some council members would like a do-over.

Councilor Andrew Johnson, one of the nine members who supported the pledge in June, said in an interview that he meant the words “in spirit,” not by the letter. Another councilor, Phillipe Cunningham, said that the language in the pledge was “up for interpretation” and that even among council members soon after the promise was made, “it was very clear that most of us had interpreted that language differently.” Lisa Bender, the council president, paused for 16 seconds when asked if the council’s statement had led to uncertainty at a pivotal moment for the city.

“I think our pledge created confusion in the community and in our wards,” she said.

The regrets formalize a retreat that has quietly played out in Minneapolis in the months since George Floyd was killed by the police and the ensuing national uproar over the treatment of Black Americans by law enforcement and the country at large. After a summer that challenged society’s commitment to racial equality and raised the prospect of sweeping political change, a cool autumn reality is settling in.

National polls show decreasing support for Black Lives Matter since a sea change of good will in June. In Minneapolis, the most far-reaching policy efforts meant to address police violence have all but collapsed.

In interviews this month, about two dozen elected officials, protesters and community leaders described how the City Council members’ pledge to “end policing as we know it” — a mantra to meet the city’s pain — became a case study in how quickly political winds can shift, and what happens when idealistic efforts at structural change meet the legislative process and public opposition.

The pledge is now no closer to becoming policy, with fewer vocal champions than ever. It has been rejected by the city’s mayor, a plurality of residents in recent public opinion polls and an increasing number of community groups. Taking its place have been the types of incremental reforms that the city’s progressive politicians had denounced.

In the meantime, “defunding the police” has become a talking point for state and national Republicans looking to paint liberals as anti-law-enforcement. It has been a thorn in the side of Joe Biden, the Democratic presidential nominee, even though he rejects the idea. And it has ignited a power struggle in Minneapolis that has, in some cases, pitted moderate against progressive, young against old, and white against Black.


The rest of the article is spin since it is from the NY Times, but you can read the full article here and decide for yourselves: https://news.yahoo.com/pledge-dismantle-minneapolis-police-collapsed-155801253.html

I posted this here because it's clear that the knee-jerk reactions that rely on emotions rather than logical thinking is bound to fail. The Dems are whacked out of their mind right now. It's time to reorganize the party and get back to the policies that made it successful.

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i got a dude that is supporting trump talking about logical thinking.


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And talking about the Democrats being out of their mind while supporting a habitual liar in Pocapornstar. A divider and instigator.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg


I mean it's so flaming obvious.


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Sounds like a mental health breakdown. As someone who’s all too familiar with that, I feel for the guy.

That being said, he should be glad he’s not black. The cops would’ve been more than happy to help him out with his desire to die.


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j/c:

Apparently, it's cool to use a person's mental health issues to help throw shade at someone else in an election.

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Apparently, it's cool to use a person's mental health issues to help throw shade at someone else in an election.


well you're ok with voting for someone who wishes he can date his own daughter, so lets not act like my comments are somehow out of line.


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I mean it's so flaming obvious.


What was?


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I wasn't criticizing you. I thought you actually showed some empathy for the dude's mental health situation. I was j/c.

This country has come a long way on many fronts, but there are still too many people who demean others for legitimate mental health concerns.

I think you understand that. And again, I wasn't referring to you.

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if you wasn't, then i apologize. i was the only one who actually commented, so i took it as that.

mental health is something i try not to criticize people for. now, i got army buddies that have mental health problems as well, so we we crack jokes on each other and such, but i think you understand that dynamic.

i dunno the dudes story, but i do know we do a piss poor job addressing mental health problems in this country. we have too many people who go untreated, and unfortunately after a while, it just boils over.

and i want to be clear; im glad the cops didn't go into the spot guns blazing.

i think its odd how certain people get shot, while certain people don't.


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I wasn't cracking on you. At all. And I do understand that dynamic. Maybe not as well as you, but I get it. I have my issues too, bro.

And I even agree w/you on how blacks will get shot and whites won't in similar situations. It's BS!

The mental health thing is something that is important to me. I hate that those w/mental health issues are made fun of and their problems are dismissed by most of society.

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yea its important to me to, from the overall health of the country.

the VA has this PTSD program, and one of the bad things they do (amongst a lot of bad things) is that they tend to lump all PTSD/depression patience together in the same group.

what i mean by that is this: they give us this binder full of information and surveys and such. and while filling out the surveys, they ask these questions that don't apply whatsoever, but scared the crap out of me.

and one of those questions is: After sexual assault/rape, did you feel worthless?

bruh......that completely changed up how i view my own situation. that was something that i will just NEVER know what it feels like.

no matter what went down, at the end of the day, we all volunteered to join the military. i joined in 2006. we was at the PEAK of two different war fronts. it was inevitable that something was gonna happen, so whatever i'm dealing with, i always have to remember that i ultimately put myself in that situation.

women don't put themselves in that situation to get raped. they are completely powerless in that event. they literally have their empowerment over their own bodies TAKEN from them.

that STILL makes me view my own mental health issues as a freaking joke, which is probably why im in and out of the program, cause i can't take it seriously anymore. it makes me want to wrap my daughters in bubble wrap for the rest of their lives.


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Damn, that's powerful!

It would be great to have a thread about that, but I get why you might not want to go there because so many people are still whacked when it comes to mental health issues. But educating folks is a good thing.

If you do start a thread about it.........I'll have your back big time. Even if I have to get suspended, I will shout down anyone who messes w/you.

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Anyways..I found 100 reasons to vote for #JoeBiden that don't mention Trump.


1.) $15.00 federal minimum wage
2.) Reinstate DACA – allowing new applicants to apply
3.) 12 Weeks federal paid family leave
4.) Universal Pre-Kindergarten/Childcare for ages 3 and 4
5.) Tuition free college for those with household income less than $125,000.00
6.) Allow student loans to be relieved in bankruptcy
7.) LGBTQ+ Equality Act in the first 100 days in office
8.) Rejoin the Paris Climate Accords
9.) Decriminalize cannabis use and expunge convictions
10.) Eliminate cash bail system
11.) Eliminate mandatory minimum sentences
12.) Outlaw all online firearm and munition sales
13.) Restore the voting rights act
14.) Create a new $20 billion competitive grant program to spur states to shift from incarceration to prevention.
15.) He’ll triple funding for Title I Programs
16.) Appoint the first Black Woman to the Supreme Court of the United States
17.) Reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA)
18.) Ensure the US achieves a 100% clean energy economy and net-zero emissions no later than 2050
19.) Protecting biodiversity, slowing extinction rates and helping leverage natural climate solutions
20.) Develop a plan to ensure that America has the cleanest, safest and fastest rail system in the world, for both passengers and freight
21.) Expand the safety net for abuse survivors
22.) Confront online harassment, abuse and stalking
23.) End the rape kit backlog
24.) Address the deadly combination of guns and domestic violence
25.) Change the culture that enables domestic violence
26.) Support the diverse needs of survivors of violence against women
27.) Protect and empower immigrant women
28.) Lead the global effort to end gender-based violence
29.) End capital punishment
30.) End federal private prisons
31.) End all incarceration for drug use alone and divert individuals to drug courts and treatment
32.) Invest in public defenders’ offices to ensure defendants’ access to quality counsel
33.) Expand and use the power of the US Justice Department to address systemic misconduct in police departments and prosecutors’ offices
34.) Reform qualified immunity for officers
35.) Ban choke-holds/neck restraints by police
36.) Launch a national police oversight commission
37.) Stop transferring weapons of war to police forces
38.) Free access to COVID testing for all with national testing board
39.) Double drive through COVID testing sites
40.) 100,000-strong COVID contact tracing workforce
41.) Guarantee first responders have priority access to PPE
42.) Emergency paid leave for anyone who gets COVID or needs to take care of a loved one
43.) Free housing for health care workers to quarantine
44.) Ramp up large scale manufacturing of as many vaccine candidates as necessary
45.) Nationwide vaccination campaign to guarantee fair distribution
46.) Ask every American to wear a mask
47.) End the mismanagement of the asylum system, which fuels violence and chaos at the border
48.) Surge humanitarian resources to the border and foster public-private initiatives
49.) End prolonged detention and reinvest in a case management program
50.) Rescind the un-American travel and refugee bans, also referred to as 'Muslim bans.'
51.) Order an immediate review of Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for vulnerable populations who cannot find safety in their countries ripped apart by violence or disaster
52.) Ensure that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) personnel abide by professional standards and are held accountable for inhumane treatment.
53.) Revitalize the Task Force on New Americans and boost our economy by prioritizing integration, promoting immigrant entrepreneurship, increasing access to language instruction, and promoting civil engagement.
54.) Convene a regional meeting of leaders, including from El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, and Canada, to address the factors driving migration and to propose a regional resettlement solution
55.) Raising the corporate tax rate to 28 percent.
56.) Requiring a true minimum tax on ALL foreign earnings of United States companies located overseas so that we do our part to put an end to the global race to the bottom that rewards global tax havens. This will be 21% — TWICE the rate of the Trump offshoring tax rate and will apply to all income.
57.) Imposing a tax penalty on corporations that ship jobs overseas in order to sell products back to America.
58.) Imposing a 15% minimum tax on book income so that no corporation gets away with paying no taxes.
59.) Raising the top individual income rate back to 39.6 percent.
60.) Asking those making more than $1 million to pay the same rate on investment income that they do on their wages.
61.) Tackle the crisis of Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women
62.) Ensure tribal nations will have a strong voice and role in the federal government
63.) Restore Tribal lands and safeguard natural and cultural resources
64.) Joe will dramatically increase funding for both public schools and Bureau of Indian Education schools.
65.) Invest $70 billion in Tribal Colleges and Universities and Minority Serving Institutions.
66.) Ensure full inclusion of people with disabilities in policy development and aggressively enforce the civil rights of people with disabilities.
67.) Guarantee access to high-quality, affordable health care, including mental health care, and expand access to home and community-based services and long-term services and supports in the most integrated setting appropriate to each person’s needs and based on self-determination.
68.) Expand competitive, integrated employment opportunities for people with disabilities.
69.) Protect and strengthen economic security for people with disabilities.
70.) Ensure that students with disabilities have access to educational programs and support they need to succeed, from early interventions to post-secondary education.
71.) Expand access to accessible, integrated, and affordable housing, transportation, and assistive technologies and protect people with disabilities in emergencies.
72.) Advance global disability rights
73.) Double the number of psychologists, guidance counselors, nurses, social workers, and other health professionals in our schools so our kids get the mental health care they need
74.) Invest in our schools to eliminate the funding gap between white and non-white districts, and rich and poor districts
75.) Improve teacher diversity
76.) Support our educators by giving them the pay and dignity they deserve.
77.) Invest in resources for our schools so students grow into physically and emotionally healthy adults, and educators can focus on teaching.
78.) Ensure that no child’s future is determined by their zip code, parents’ income, race, or disability.
79.) Provide every middle and high school student a path to a successful career.
80.) Start investing in our children at birth.
81.) Double funding for the State Small Business Credit Initiative.
82.) Expand the New Markets Tax Credit, make the program permanent, and double Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFI) funding
83.) Improve and expand the Small Business Administration programs that most effectively support African American-owned businesses.
84.) Increase funding for the Minority Business Development Agency budget.
85.) Make sure economic relief because of COVID-19 reaches the African American businesses that need it most
86.) Reserve half of all the new PPP funds for small businesses with 50 employees or less
87.) Help families buy their first homes and build wealth by creating a new refundable, advanceable tax credit of up to $15,000
88.) Protect homeowners and renters from abusive lenders and landlords through a new Homeowner and Renter Bill of Rights.
89.) Establishing a $100 billion Affordable Housing Fund to construct and upgrade affordable housing
90.) Fully implement Congressman Clyburn’s 10-20-30 Plan to help all individuals living in persistently impoverished communities
91.) Expand access to $100 billion in low-interest business loans by funding state, local, tribal, and non-profit lending programs in Latino communities and other communities of color and strengthening Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFIs)
92.) Expand broadband access to every American.
93.) Protect and build on the Affordable Care Act to improve access to quality health care in rural communities.
94.) Expand access to high-quality education in rural schools.
95.) Transform our crumbling transportation infrastructure – including roads and bridges, rail, aviation, ports, and inland waterways.
96.) Expand bio-based manufacturing to bring cutting-edge manufacturing jobs back to rural America.
97.) Strengthen antitrust enforcement
98.) Introduce a constitutional amendment to entirely eliminate private dollars from our federal elections
99.) End dark money groups
100.) Ban corporate PAC contributions to candidates, and prohibit lobbyist contributions to those who they lobby"
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I hope he has plans to pay for a lot of that stuff. Did he get that list from Bernie? I also see more than a few reasons there NOT to vote for him. Especially this one:

"12) Outlaw all online firearm and munition sales"


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Originally Posted By: jfanent
I hope he has plans to pay for a lot of that stuff. Did he get that list from Bernie? I also see more than a few reasons there NOT to vote for him. Especially this one:

"12) Outlaw all online firearm and munition sales"


Once carbon emissions are eliminated and we can't burn wood for heat, we'll be reduced to living with the, it takes a village scenario, to provide ourselves with a little power.



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Anyways..I found 100 reasons to vote for #JoeBiden that don't mention Trump.


1.) $15.00 federal minimum wage


Well you blew that one with your very 1st reason. notallthere

In small towns all over this country $15.00 bucks an hour will cause a lot of people to lose jobs, as well as devastate those on fixed incomes who will see inflation take off. It will also force some companies out of business.


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Once carbon emissions are eliminated and we can't burn wood for heat


That's an interesting reality you've invented there...

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Originally Posted By: jfanent
I hope he has plans to pay for a lot of that stuff. Did he get that list from Bernie? I also see more than a few reasons there NOT to vote for him. Especially this one:

"12) Outlaw all online firearm and munition sales"


Plans to pay for it? You mean like Trump and republicans with their 2-3 trillion deficit increase under Trump BEFORE the pandemic? #DoubleStandards

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