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A380 by the numbers

Airbus delivered the first A380, the world's commercial largest airliner, to Singapore Airlines on Monday.

It comes 18 months later than expected after costly delays triggered by trouble in wiring the mammoth double-decker planes.

Here are some key facts on how the plane measures up:

• The A380 double-decker is the length of eight buses and has enough room on its massive wings to park 70 cars.

• An all-economy class A380 could seat 853 passengers versus 568 for a Boeing 747. A stretched version expected to be developed in the future could seat more than 1,000 passengers.
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• With typical first class, business and economy cabins, the A380 will seat 555 passengers. A 747 laid out the same way seats 416.

• The A380 is about 50 feet wider, about 13 feet taller, about 6 feet longer and 118 tonnes heavier than the 747-400, which has reigned as the largest airliner for four decades.

• The A380 looks like a 747 with the upper deck stretched all the way back to the tail.

• Cocktail bars, casinos, showers, libraries and sleeping quarters for staff are among the novel ways airlines could use the A380's space.

• A wingspan of 261 feet, 10 inches, means the A380 is too large for most airport docking bays. UK-based airport operator BAA alone has budgeted $917.8 million to build larger facilities to handle the planes.

• At take-off the A380's four Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engines will generate as much thrust as 3,500 cars. The Trent 900 engines have accumulated over 14,000 flying hours on four of the five A380s used in flight testing.

• An alliance between GE and Pratt & Whitney is also supplying engines.

• The A380 has 16 passenger doors and escape slides on both decks, with the upper slides standing 26.5-feet high.

• Customers expect at least a 15% improvement in costs per seat-mile compared with the Boeing 747-400 jumbo.

• The A380 is the second biggest plane ever built. It is topped by the six-engine Antonov An-225 Mriya cargo plane, of which only two have been built. Designed to carry space shuttles for the former Soviet Union, the An-225 is 36.5-feet longer and 26.5-feet wider but not as tall as the A380.

• Howard Hughes's ill-fated Spruce Goose flying boat, which flew once in 1947 and was designed to carry 750 troops, had a wider wingspan to incorporate its eight engines but was shorter than the A380.

• The A380 will be most common on long routes linking Asia and the Middle East to Europe and the United States. Flights to and from Australia are also expected to be a key market.

• The program has cost $17.06 billion to develop, with suppliers' and European government loans helping to offset the cost.

• Airbus says it needs to sell 420 of the planes to recover its costs, while some brokerage analysts put the figure much higher.

• Airbus is less than half-way to its own break-even level with 165 orders booked with 14 customers.

• The A380 has a list price of $319.2 million.

• Dubai airline Emirates is the biggest buyer with an order for 47 of the superjumbos worth $14 billion.

• Parcel delivery firms Federal Express and United Parcel Service both canceled their A380 orders, citing the program's delay. Airbus has had to pay late fees to customers such as Australia's Qantas Airways.

Sources: Reuters/Airbus
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Great, a bigger plane, with more people stuffed into the same size seats as any other plane. Sounds comfortable.

I dread flying to Rome next year.


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The flight isn't bad but the city....yuck. Don't know your plans but go to the Veneto region if you can. A little city called Vicenza is a really neat place to check out as is Verona and Florence.I know you won't but you could skip Venice and leave the romaticized version that you get from books in your head instead of seeing the overhyped,over polluted, dirty city that it really is.

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We're taking a 12 day cruise, so we will be hitting several places, then we extended our stay at the end 2 days to spend in Rome before heading home. Basically because I want to see the coliseum and stuff like, and chill a little before jumping in a plane again.


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Italy is number one on my places to see list. I probably wouldn't see much of Rome, but spend more time at Vatican City. So much to see in Italy though, I'm not sure how I could condense it into a 2 week vacation.

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Lots to see and do. I was there for 2 years and just scratched the surface. I will say that my most memorable times were the little villages I stopped in on the way to the big destinations . Northern Italy stands out in my mind as one of the most scenic places on Earth and the food .....oh my !!

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I would agree with that! When we went to Cancun, the best day in my opinion was when we rented a car and hit all the little towns in between Cancun and Playa Del Carmen.

As for Italy, my wife has already informed me how amazing the food is ... and I already consider Olive Garden to be good eating.

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If your taste buds enjoy the Italian food at the Garden then when you go to Italy they'll freak out. I used to pick one ingedient on the menu that I recognized and then order that dish with no idea of what I was getting and I never regretted one dish that I had. What is so cool is that each region has it's own specialty and I could never pick a favorite.

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It's a big one...You won't see many, if any, US carriers buy the plane. There's not enough passengers for the frequency of any flights to any city to compensate for flying the plane. I know American Airlines doesn't like the Airbus because they break down too much and they are "fly by wire", which mean everything is basically computer controlled for less human error. If something goes wrong with the system in the aircraft, it takes forever to correct the problem. I've worked on Airbuses in my career as a flight attendant and they have alot of problems and pilots don't like flying them, at least at American.


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It's a big one...You won't see many, if any, US carriers buy the plane. There's not enough passengers for the frequency of any flights to any city to compensate for flying the plane. I know American Airlines doesn't like the Airbus because they break down too much and they are "fly by wire", which mean everything is basically computer controlled for less human error. If something goes wrong with the system in the aircraft, it takes forever to correct the problem. I've worked on Airbuses in my career as a flight attendant and they have alot of problems and pilots don't like flying them, at least at American.




Hang on a sec here...

American flies an OLD Airbus...An Airbus A-300ER...Extended range...It's an A-300 with Winglets and an EFIS Cockpit...Electronic Flight Instrumentation System...Honeywell makes a VERY RELIABLE EFIS for aircraft...CAT IIIC capable...

Anyone wondering why the airplane is painted gray...Airbus uses a fuselage that is made by numerous companies and it HAS TO BE painted because it's made of composite materials...That's why u don't see the shiny chrome bellies that American is famous for...COMPOSITES MUST BE PAINTED...

CAT IIIC is awesome technology...Not all airports are equipped for it...It allows an aircraft to land in ZERO-ZERO Visibility...That's zero visibility and zero runway visual range (RVR)...U have to be certified by the Airline via the FAA to repair this system because of the sensitivity of it...Then it utilizes the Localizer Signal to stay centered on the runway AND uses a signal to taxi all the way to the GATE...

TCAS (Traffic Alerting and Collision Avoidance System) is one of the things that is driving technology in the airline industry...RVSM (Reduced Vertical Separation Minimums) is another along with GPS (Global Positioning System)...It's a major reason why u see a mind blowing dollar figure on these aircraft...It started with these things and the FMS (Flight Management Systems) back in the 80's...Airbus A-320 Aircraft were the 1st Fly by Wire types built...The A-310-300 WAS NOT FLY BY WIRE but had the virtual same EFIS System as the A-300ER that American flies...The 310ER is also the A/C that crashed on take-off from Kennedy International in New York shortly after 9/11...Remember that one???...The Rudder came apart...

GPS...RVSM...TCAS...FMS...IRS (Inertial Reference Systems)...LASER GYROS...Extremely accurate and much less mechanical than previous days are reasons why we can go virtually ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD at any time in any weather and be SAFE...It's really a modern day MIRACLE...

How bout flying over the Atlantic Ocean on TWO ENGINES???...Scary thought if an engine has a problem because on the Pratt & Whitney PW 4000 series engines if u have an engine problem the pilot has NO CONTROL over it shutting down on its own...The FADEC (FULL AUTHORITY Digital Engine Control will shut it down on its own with NO OVERRIDE capability...SCARY THOUGHT>>>...

Not really...Because these engines including the GE 90 engine u see on a Boeing 777 have gone through HUNDREDS of hours of scrutinized testing by the FAA and are certified for what they call ETOPS...Extended Range Twin Engine Operations...An engine and an airline do not get this distinction from the FAA unless that engine has gone through MAJOR testing...It started in the 80's...And it's the reason why u can go overseas in a 2 engine airplane...U MUST be within 180 minutes of a landing site with the 180 minute rule...THAT'S RELIABILITY...And the airline has to be certified for it with the FAA...

It's really rather amazing what goes on in an airplane as we sit in 1st class suckin' on martinis...lol...

REDUNDANCY...Back-ups to back-ups to back-ups...It's what it's all about...Even hydraulics...One fails the next one takes over...There's virtually NOTHING that can take a modern day airplane out of the sky other than a BOMB or human error...THAT'S A FACT...

Anyone ever watch United 93???...The NY Controller that jumped up and screamed orders to that Delta airplane that was on course to have a mid-air collision with Flight 175 that crashed into the 2nd WTC Tower was DIRECTLY related to TCAS...It's how they knew the Delta flight was ready to collide with 175...TECHNOLOGY...Without it they most likely would've crashed...

No more long wind tech talk...lol...

WHY do u think these guys do not like these airplanes???...I'm curious because I LOVED working on them...I LOVED flying in the cockpits...I LOVED RECERTIFYING them for CAT IIIC Landings...

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Cool information man! I fly a lot for work and love to hear about the workings of airplanes. I have always liked Airbus - I've flown on a lot of A320's; I've talked with a lot of pilots and they seem to like them too.

I've also been lucky enought to fly on some business class jets like G4's and G5's. Talk about sweet planes! When the seats in the cabin are full I ALWAYS voluteer to sit in the jump seat up front with the pilots. Gulfstreams are simply amazing aircraft. I've also flown in some smaller Lears.


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ome of us jump on and off flights so often, it's easy to forget that plenty of people might never get the chance to set foot on a wobbly set of aircraft steps. But an enterprising retired Indian Airlines engineer named Bahadur Chand Gupta has come up with a neat solution to help spread the joy of sitting in a cramped airplane cabin eating horrible food.

Gupta bought an old Airbus 300 a few years ago and has now assembled it in a Delhi suburb. Now he, his wife and a few staff pretending to be airline stewards don their uniforms every Saturday for the flight that doesn't fly. They sell tickets for about $4 to people who want to experience life on an airplane but can't afford to get airborne.

Gupta makes pilot announcements (including turbulence warnings), his wife and friends serve airplane food and push their trolleys up and down the aisles and the plane goes nowhere. It's better that way: The aircraft's missing a wing and half its tail. But that doesn't stop the enjoyment. We're wondering if they make the experience more authentic by throwing in the odd vomiting passenger or screaming child.




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