I've heard you complain about taxes on here. You almost lost it over the UK vat tax thing a couple years ago. Or maybe that was some restriction, I can't remember, but you have complained about taxes here too.
Okay, When patience isn't a strong point, you go to the house and poach the keyboard from there, bring it out to the office, and 'boom', back in business.
But I'll be buying a new keyboard tomorrow. Computer in the house is rarely used, but it'll be my luck that tomorrow wife will use it.
My bunch (and those associated with us) are extremely lucky in that our employment is guaranteed through this season with no loss of income,
Good for you, and I mean that.
However, for some of us, that is not the case. Our incomes HAVE been affected, in large ways. I would be one of them.
I have always understood that from the start- and truly do feel for you, in this crazy time of Life.
In fact, you are exactlythe poster child for the point I've been trying to make to Eve tonight. I can't think of another poster on this board who more deserves to be helped by my tax dollars:
Honest, hard-working, self-made small business owner who is waylaid through no fault of his own... and is doing his level best to survive a problem that was never caused by anything he did wrong.
This very situation is the epitome of Christian charity ("small c"), insofar as I was always taught. A neighbor, a fellow citizen is hurting. I can help. Some of my money will help him to stay on his feet. Others like me (and him) chip in their fair share... because some day down the road, we'll all need each others' help.
This is what I was raised to believe- and live.
I'm the kind of American citizen who never has a problem with paying into the pot for all of us. Not ever. I can't take my money with me when I die, but I do have a choice in how I spend my money while I'm here.
It's why I never bitch, moan or complain about the taxes I pay. I routinely vote for levies that help schools, roads, infrastructure, even though I know that a certain mount of my money goes to waste. I'm not stupid, gullible or naïve. I'm lazy.
If I were to give/donate/contribute in the kind of targeted way that would suit me, I'd spend all of my free time researching causes, prioritizing my contribution stream, and distributing my own hard-earned precisely where I'd want it to go. Know what that makes me sound like? The kind of "Elite" that you and I could never be.
Ultra-riche have entire staffs who are dedicated to this type of pursuit. Someone like You or me has only the infrastructure available to commonfolk... and that means, the system we've always been part of: the democracy/representative republic- complete with the clunky, inefficient, corruption-laden elements that are embedded so deeply within its fabric.
I'm a Working Class Joe. I make less than the plumber/electrician who comes to fix what I'm unqualified to, when my house needs more than I can give it. I'm not a corporation, consortium or billionaire. My only choice is to contribute to The Community Pot that sustains You and me in times of need... as inefficient, corrupt and lame as it is.
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Situations like yours are exactly why I feel no shame, when fellow PP Dawgs try to b#slapp me with the "Socialist" moniker.
I take pride in the fact that I willingly CHOOSE to contribute and participate in my society- with my words, my efforts, my votes, and my money. It is how I was raised (by patriots, teachers, scientists and clergy), and how I will always honor those fine people who taught me how to be a daily follower of Christ's most important teachings.
I want you to get on the other side of this crisis alongside me, arch. Healthy, whole- and ready to move on. That outcome is the only one I can find acceptable.
I willingly do what I can. My Parents (and extended Family) will allow nothing less of me.
Back to the thread.
Yes, things have been tough for me this year. Most people can say that. This will be my worst year in 17 years. I don't blame anything......other than covid, and people being laid off and doing exactly what we did:cutting back on spending.
I can also look at my 17 complete years being self employed and realize "you had a best year, and you had a worst year. All the others were somewhere in between."
Just as every other business has experienced.
I've never divulged what I do for charity, because I don't do it to get kudos from anyone. I do it because I can. That ability is narrowing right now, no doubt.
I did spend ..........well, it doesn't matter. Let's just say in the last 2 days I've spent more time on church issues than I have on work. That doesn't make me a good person, I know.
I pay my taxes, as the IRS is one thing that scares me. I, according to my cpa, overpay every year. Which is bad, but nice also as it allows me to some years not even have to pay the first quarter since the over payment covered it.
I, as you, am a working class Joe. I'm a sweating my ass of working class Joe. Not high paid. Owning a tiny business does not mean you're rich.
As long as I can make a living doing what I do, I wouldn't trade it for the world.
I pay my taxes. I donate my time. I donate my work. The last 2, not because I have to, but because I CAN, and WANT to.
I am, however, sick and tired of being called a racist, simply because of who I voted for. Being called a racist, by people that have never met me, and trust me, never will.
Eh, I'll be done here. My new keyboard (from the house) is doing its job too well.
Okay, When patience isn't a strong point, you go to the house and poach the keyboard from there, bring it out to the office, and 'boom', back in business.
But I'll be buying a new keyboard tomorrow. Computer in the house is rarely used, but it'll be my luck that tomorrow wife will use it.
SMH Have you not learned anything from me over the years Arch?
Leave the keyboard in the house. Then when your wife uses it you can blame her for breaking it
Keep the keyboard! Use it to type during a Browns loss. Should provide good reading.
Along those lines, I stumbled on the thread about the computer auto-transcription of one of Shurmer's post-game press conferences. I laughed at it just as hard as I did when I read it the first time.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
When trump talks about the 2020 election and the high risk for cheating, fraud and the rigging of the election he is right. This election is going to be the most fraught in history to have its results manipulated.
Where he is lying is that he claims it is going to the democrats behind this when he well knows that it is actually him and his campaign the is driving attempts to rig the election.
Trump campaign discussing plans to appoint its own state electors, no matter the results: report Salon Roger Sollenberger ,Salon•October 6, 2020
Trump campaign officials and legal advisers are reportedly preparing to appoint their own state electors as a way to secure victory in a contested election, a move that would precipitate an unprecedented constitutional crisis.
The country will in all likelihood not know the outcome of the presidential election on Election Day. It is likely, given a raft of threatening public statements from President Trump, that he will reject unfavorable results.
The president is not directly elected by the people — the official votes are cast by electors on behalf of the voters in their states. Though states have historically chosen their electors by popular vote, the Constitution does not mandate that, saying only that a state shall appoint its electors "in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct."
Every state has allowed its voters to make the call in every election since the late 1800s. But in 2000, the Supreme Court held in Bush v. Gore that the states "can take back the power to appoint electors."
According to a Sept. 23 article in The Atlantic, campaign advisers to Trump, in conjunction with Republican state leaders, are preparing to test this theory. Sources in the Republican Party, at both state and national levels, say that the campaign is considering a plan to "bypass" the popular vote results and install its own electors in key battleground states where the legislatures are controlled by Republicans.
Republicans control both legislative bodies in the six closest battleground states: Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Of those six, both Arizona and Florida have Republican governors.
After the national election, the plan goes, the Trump campaign would cry foul about rampant fraud and demand that state legislators ignore the ballot tabulations and choose their electors directly. If the campaign can sustain doubt or confusion about the ballot count, legislators will feel more and more pressure to take up the responsibility before the Dec. 8 deadline when electors' names are sent to Congress for verification.
The Atlantic reported that a Trump campaign legal adviser said this effort would be framed as protecting the will of the people.
"The state legislatures will say, 'All right, we've been given this constitutional power. We don't think the results of our own state are accurate, so here's our slate of electors that we think properly reflect the results of our state,' " the legal adviser told the outlet. The adviser said that by extending long windows for mail-in ballots to be counted after Election Day, Democrats have exposed the tabulation process to allegations of inaccuracy and fraud.
"If you have this notion that ballots can come in for I don't know how many days — in some states a week, 10 days — then that onslaught of ballots just gets pushed back and pushed back and pushed back," he said. "So pick your poison. Is it worse to have electors named by legislators or to have votes received by Election Day?"
When The Atlantic asked the Trump campaign about plans to circumvent the vote and appoint loyal electors, and about other strategies discussed in the article, the deputy national press secretary did not directly address the questions. "It's outrageous that President Trump and his team are being villainized for upholding the rule of law and transparently fighting for a free and fair election," Thea McDonald said in an email. "The mainstream media are giving the Democrats a free pass for their attempts to completely uproot the system and throw our election into chaos." Trump is fighting for a trustworthy election, she wrote, "and any argument otherwise is a conspiracy theory intended to muddy the waters."
Three Pennsylvania Republican leaders told The Atlantic that they had already talked about appointing electors directly, and one of them — the chair of the state's Republican Party — said he had discussed the possibility with the Trump campaign.
"I've mentioned it to them, and I hope they're thinking about it too," Lawrence Tabas said. "I just don't think this is the right time for me to be discussing those strategies and approaches, but [direct appointment of electors] is one of the options. It is one of the available legal options set forth in the Constitution." He said that if the voting process "has significant flaws," then people could "lose faith and confidence" in the system.
Jake Corman, the majority leader of the Pennsylvania Senate, said that if the count draws on for too long, the legislature will have to choose electors. "We don't want to go down that road, but we understand where the law takes us, and we'll follow the law," he said.
That road could lead to a scenario where six battleground states have competing sets of electors, each authorized by different branches of the state — one by the Republican legislature, one by the Democratic governor. Even in Arizona and Florida, where Republicans fully control the government, an independent set of Democratic electors could try to certify their own votes for Democratic nominee Joe Biden in an effort to kick the final call up to Congress.
This almost happened during the 2000 Florida recount: Republican Gov. Jeb Bush certified electors for his brother, George W. Bush, before the recount had been settled. The Gore campaign was ready to assemble its own group of Democratic electors to cast rival ballots, but after the Supreme Court ruled against Gore, he conceded — just days before the Electoral College convened.
Given this plan, The Atlantic reports, it's possible that mirror-image state electors could turn in competing sets of votes, submitted "to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate" — who, by the way, is Vice President Mike Pence.
The contest at that point gets very complicated, but plays out in one of three ways: If Democrats take the Senate back and hold onto the House, then Biden wins; if Republicans hold the Senate and flip the House, a less likely scenario, then Trump wins; but if Congress remains divided after the election, the Constitution does not offer a solution.
As Constitutional scholar Norm Ornstein told The Atlantic, "Then we get thrown into a world where anything could happen."
I guess he will tell us where it's safe and where it's not. Until and unless he loses states where he said it was safe. Then he'll say it was rigged in those states. It's like, what he does.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Democrat Cal Cunningham Affair Upends 2020 Senate Race
Sean Moran
7 Oct 2020
Democrat Cal Cunningham’s affair in North Carolina has upended the U.S. Senate race and may have far-reaching implications beyond his battle with Sen. Thom Tillis (R-NC).
On Wednesday, Cunningham dodged questions about the affair for which he is now under investigation by the U.S. Army Reserves.
That comes after revelations this week caused him to abandon a fundraiser and a town hall event, and just before scheduled fundraising events with national Democrat stars Sens. Cory Booker (D-NJ) and Tammy Duckworth (D-IL) set for Wednesday night. Booker and Duckworth have not returned requests for comment on what they think of the burgeoning scandal.
Tuesday night, National File— which broke the original story of sexually explicit text messages between Cunningham and a mistress— published more texts between the mistress and a friend in which Cunningham’s mistress suggests she is in possession of nude photographs of the would-be Democrat Senator.
The scandal has upended the race and roiled the highest levels of the Democrat Party in North Carolina and nationally, as even Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s PAC snubbed the one-time rising star Cunningham in a fundraising email sent out after the scandal broke by not including him in it.
Despite the reports, Rachel Petri, Cunningham’s spokeswoman, said in a statement on Tuesday the Democrat intends to move forward with his campaign.
Petri said:
Cal will participate in this process, but it does not change the stakes of this election or the need for new leaders who will fight for the issues North Carolinians care about instead of caving to the corporate special interests – which is exactly what Senator Tillis has done in his years in Washington.
The Cunningham scandal could upend the North Carolina Senate race in favor of Tillis. Tillis represents a pivotal seat in the hotly contested fight for the control of the Senate majority. An East Carolina University (ECU) poll released in the days after the scandal first broke found that Tillis now leads Cunningham.
It's either a big deal for elected officials, or it's not. You (not talking to you, Pit) decide.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Tell me these aren't the words of a wannba dictator. Right out of their playbook, arrest all your political opponents. How is anybody not afraid of this guy and what he is trying to do?
‘Where are all of the arrests?’: Trump demands Barr lock up his foes Politico By Kyle Cheney ,Politico•October 7, 2020
‘Where are all of the arrests?’: Trump demands Barr lock up his foes Donald Trump mounted an overnight Twitter blitz demanding to jail his political enemies and call out allies he says are failing to arrest his rivals swiftly enough.
Trump twice amplified supporters’ criticisms of Attorney General William Barr, including one featuring a meme calling on him to “arrest somebody!” He wondered aloud why his rivals, like President Barack Obama, Democratic nominee Joe Biden and former Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton hadn’t been imprisoned for launching a “coup” against his administration.
“Where are all of the arrests?” Trump said, after several dozen tweets on the subject over the past 24 hours. “Can you imagine if the roles were reversed? Long term sentences would have started two years ago. Shameful!”
By early afternoon, Trump was letting loose his frustrations in an all-caps missive that seemed aimed at nobody in particular.
“DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, THE BIGGEST OF ALL POLITICAL SCANDALS (IN HISTORY)!!! BIDEN, OBAMA AND CROOKED HILLARY LED THIS TREASONOUS PLOT!!! BIDEN SHOULDN’T BE ALLOWED TO RUN - GOT CAUGHT!!!” Trump tweeted.
The day-long run of tweets and retweets marked the most frantic stretch of Trump’s public activity since he left the presidential suite at Walter Reed Medical Center and returned to treatment at the White House. They also underscored the degree to which Trump remains fixated on his grievances over the Russia probe, and often on obscure aspects of that investigation that are unintelligible to all but its most careful followers.
Since late Tuesday, Trump has vowed to declassify all documents he claims will show improper activity by Obama and his intelligence advisers — before quickly reversing himself and suggesting he had already done so “long ago” — and repeatedly cited Russian intelligence services’ claims that Clinton “stirred up” the Trump-Russia collusion scandal that has dogged his presidency.
The Trump administration has never held a firm position on whether the president’s tweets constitute direct orders; various tell-all books have described how top officials learned which of his instructions — lawful or otherwise — to ignore and which to accommodate. Courts have at times treated Trump’s tweets at official statements. But on other occasions they’ve been brushed off as political banter that lacks the force of law.
Trump’s Twitter feed tends to be a realtime barometer of his offline moods and whims, however — and themes he hits on repeatedly over 280 characters tend to surface in conversations he holds in private.
A Justice Department spokeswoman did not respond to a request for comment about whether Trump had ever directly asked Barr to order the arrest of his rivals or if his tweet suggesting as much had veered into territory that Barr once said made his job “impossible.”
In past interviews, Barr has signaled that he has no intention of prosecuting senior Obama administration officials, though he has cast doubt on the motives behind the Russia probe and launched an investigation into its origins.
The review Barr ordered has disappointed Trump in recent weeks as the U.S. attorney tapped to lead it, John Durham, has signaled he might not pursue the kinds of high-profile prosecutions the president and his allies are demanding. Durham’s deputy in the review, veteran Justice Department prosecutor Nora Dennehy, recently quit the faltering effort and returned to the private sector.
“NOW THAT THE RADICAL LEFT DEMOCRATS GOT COUGHT [sic] COLD IN THE (NON) FRIENDLY TRANSFER OF GOVERNMENT, IN FACT, THEY SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN AND WENT FOR A COUP, WE ARE ENTITLED TO ASK THE VOTERS FOR FOUR MORE YEARS,” Trump declared late Wednesday morning. “PLEASE REMEMBER THIS WHEN YOU VOTE!”
Trump’s tweet barrage was particularly jarring when set against the political backdrop. Biden has widened his lead over Trump in recent polls, as the president’s support has eroded among women, seniors and other voting blocs that helps him scratch out a victory in 2016. Trump flummoxed his allies Tuesday by summarily shutting down — also via Twitter — negotiations over a coronavirus stimulus bill, only to backtrack hours later by calling on Congress to pass more targeted measures.
But Trump has made clear that he remains focused on punishing perceived enemies regardless of the political cost. While recovering at Walter Reed Monday morning, his chief of staff Mark Meadows told Fox News that Trump had kept busy that morning in part by directing the declassification of documents related to the Russia probe — a set of files he claimed were conclusive proof that Clinton had concocted the notion that his campaign team had ties to Russia even though the Senate Intelligence Committee and the special counsel’s team had rejected the allegations as unverified.
In releasing them, Trump’s own hand-picked intel chief, John Ratcliffe, acknowledged the documents, sourced to Russian intelligence, might have been “exaggerated” or even “fabricated” to deflect from their culpability in the election interference effort.
Tell me these aren't the words of a wannba dictator. Right out of their playbook, arrest all your political opponents. How is anybody not afraid of this guy and what he is trying to do?
‘Where are all of the arrests?’: Trump demands Barr lock up his foes Politico By Kyle Cheney ,Politico•October 7, 2020
‘Where are all of the arrests?’: Trump demands Barr lock up his foes Donald Trump mounted an overnight Twitter blitz demanding to jail his political enemies and call out allies he says are failing to arrest his rivals swiftly enough.
Trump twice amplified supporters’ criticisms of Attorney General William Barr, including one featuring a meme calling on him to “arrest somebody!” He wondered aloud why his rivals, like President Barack Obama, Democratic nominee Joe Biden and former Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton hadn’t been imprisoned for launching a “coup” against his administration.
“Where are all of the arrests?” Trump said, after several dozen tweets on the subject over the past 24 hours. “Can you imagine if the roles were reversed? Long term sentences would have started two years ago. Shameful!”
By early afternoon, Trump was letting loose his frustrations in an all-caps missive that seemed aimed at nobody in particular.
“DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, THE BIGGEST OF ALL POLITICAL SCANDALS (IN HISTORY)!!! BIDEN, OBAMA AND CROOKED HILLARY LED THIS TREASONOUS PLOT!!! BIDEN SHOULDN’T BE ALLOWED TO RUN - GOT CAUGHT!!!” Trump tweeted.
The day-long run of tweets and retweets marked the most frantic stretch of Trump’s public activity since he left the presidential suite at Walter Reed Medical Center and returned to treatment at the White House. They also underscored the degree to which Trump remains fixated on his grievances over the Russia probe, and often on obscure aspects of that investigation that are unintelligible to all but its most careful followers.
Since late Tuesday, Trump has vowed to declassify all documents he claims will show improper activity by Obama and his intelligence advisers — before quickly reversing himself and suggesting he had already done so “long ago” — and repeatedly cited Russian intelligence services’ claims that Clinton “stirred up” the Trump-Russia collusion scandal that has dogged his presidency.
The Trump administration has never held a firm position on whether the president’s tweets constitute direct orders; various tell-all books have described how top officials learned which of his instructions — lawful or otherwise — to ignore and which to accommodate. Courts have at times treated Trump’s tweets at official statements. But on other occasions they’ve been brushed off as political banter that lacks the force of law.
Trump’s Twitter feed tends to be a realtime barometer of his offline moods and whims, however — and themes he hits on repeatedly over 280 characters tend to surface in conversations he holds in private.
A Justice Department spokeswoman did not respond to a request for comment about whether Trump had ever directly asked Barr to order the arrest of his rivals or if his tweet suggesting as much had veered into territory that Barr once said made his job “impossible.”
In past interviews, Barr has signaled that he has no intention of prosecuting senior Obama administration officials, though he has cast doubt on the motives behind the Russia probe and launched an investigation into its origins.
The review Barr ordered has disappointed Trump in recent weeks as the U.S. attorney tapped to lead it, John Durham, has signaled he might not pursue the kinds of high-profile prosecutions the president and his allies are demanding. Durham’s deputy in the review, veteran Justice Department prosecutor Nora Dennehy, recently quit the faltering effort and returned to the private sector.
“NOW THAT THE RADICAL LEFT DEMOCRATS GOT COUGHT [sic] COLD IN THE (NON) FRIENDLY TRANSFER OF GOVERNMENT, IN FACT, THEY SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN AND WENT FOR A COUP, WE ARE ENTITLED TO ASK THE VOTERS FOR FOUR MORE YEARS,” Trump declared late Wednesday morning. “PLEASE REMEMBER THIS WHEN YOU VOTE!”
Trump’s tweet barrage was particularly jarring when set against the political backdrop. Biden has widened his lead over Trump in recent polls, as the president’s support has eroded among women, seniors and other voting blocs that helps him scratch out a victory in 2016. Trump flummoxed his allies Tuesday by summarily shutting down — also via Twitter — negotiations over a coronavirus stimulus bill, only to backtrack hours later by calling on Congress to pass more targeted measures.
But Trump has made clear that he remains focused on punishing perceived enemies regardless of the political cost. While recovering at Walter Reed Monday morning, his chief of staff Mark Meadows told Fox News that Trump had kept busy that morning in part by directing the declassification of documents related to the Russia probe — a set of files he claimed were conclusive proof that Clinton had concocted the notion that his campaign team had ties to Russia even though the Senate Intelligence Committee and the special counsel’s team had rejected the allegations as unverified.
In releasing them, Trump’s own hand-picked intel chief, John Ratcliffe, acknowledged the documents, sourced to Russian intelligence, might have been “exaggerated” or even “fabricated” to deflect from their culpability in the election interference effort.
Republican experts are in agreement: The 2020 election is not rigged Jon WardSenior Political Correspondent,Yahoo News•October 7, 2020
Republican voting experts have overwhelmingly rejected President Trump’s claims that the 2020 election is going to be rigged, giving firsthand accounts to Yahoo News that frame the president’s rhetoric as a form of disinformation.
Two of the most experienced and talented election lawyers in the Republican Party — including one who was an adviser to Vice President Mike Pence until recently — told Yahoo News that Trump’s claims are not based in reality.
Multiple Republicans who oversee elections in different states said the same.
“The idea that a massive conspiracy could be undertaken that could actually change the result of a governor’s race or U.S. Senate race — or certainly a presidential race — is a very far-fetched idea and beyond, really, the realm of possibility,” Frank LaRose, the Republican secretary of state of Ohio, said in an interview.
Michael Adams, the Republican secretary of state of Kentucky, echoed that expert opinion.
“You’re not going to see widespread fraud in a presidential or a Senate or a governor’s race. It’s just not feasible,” Adams said in a separate interview with Yahoo News.
Adams is an election law attorney who has advised Republican campaigns across the country for more than a decade. In 2017, he became an election law adviser to Pence through his PAC, the Great America Committee. Adams contacted Yahoo News Wednesday to say he was no longer an adviser, but did not say when that relationship ended.
Benjamin Ginsberg is one of the Republican Party’s other top election law attorneys. In fact, he has been one of the GOP’s foremost operatives when it comes to navigating the law in the world of politics. Ginsberg oversaw the party’s legal campaign to win the 2000 presidential election during the recount in Florida. He has advised four of the last six Republican presidential nominees.
Ginsberg retired on Aug. 31 from law practice, and began speaking out a few days after that to warn America about the danger of Trump’s false claims of a rigged election.
In an interview, Ginsberg described Trump’s sustained verbal assault on the integrity of the American election as unprecedented in American history.
“For the first time, a president of the United States is saying our elections are rigged and fraudulent,” Ginsberg said. “And I’ve been looking at polling places for 38 years as part of my duties and passion for the Republican Party doing well in elections. We’ve been looking for fraud. And I know what evidence is available, and there’s not anything like enough evidence to make the bold assertion that our elections are rigged and fraudulent.”
“It is a perilous thing for a president of the United States to be saying,” Ginsberg said.
And Kim Wyman, Washington state’s top election official, described how two major components of American elections are big obstacles to cheating: decentralization and accountability.
“We have a very decentralized election system that has over 10,000 election officials just like me who are either appointed or elected. They answer to their voters. They answer to their constituents,” said Wyman, a Republican who is Washington’s secretary of state.
“We’re very committed to making sure we have an accurate and fair election. States are working right now to make sure we’re balancing access and security so voters can have a safe voting experience and people can have confidence in the results,” Wyman said. “That’s what our profession is, and that’s what we’re going to do.”
Asked specifically about Trump’s claims of a rigged election, Wyman said: “I would categorically disagree with the president on that claim.”
Cheating and fraud do happen in elections on a small and localized scale, but not on a statewide or national scale. (Yahoo News is tracking incidents of mistakes, malfeasance or fraud in this election.) And the wrongdoers are usually political insiders — not voters. That’s the consensus view not only of Republican voting experts, but also of the nation’s top law enforcement officials.
“We have not seen, to date, a coordinated national voter fraud effort in a major election,” said FBI Director Christopher Wray in congressional testimony on Sept. 17. “[We] certainly have investigated a voter fraud committed by mail. It’s typically been at the local level.”
In that testimony, Wray said his greatest concern is “the steady drumbeat of misinformation” about the integrity of the election. “I think Americans can and should have confidence in our election system and certainly in our democracy,” Wray said. “But I worry that people will take on a feeling of futility because of all of the noise and confusion that’s generated.”
Wray and top officials from three other federal agencies — all of them tasked with preventing foreign interference in elections, and with prosecuting any cases of fraud — released a video statement on Oct. 6 to fight back against this “noise and confusion.”
“There’s been a lot of talk about efforts to hack our elections over the last four years, and some of you might be wondering whether the 2020 elections will be secure,” said Chris Krebs, the director of the Department of Homeland Security’s Cyber Security and Infrastructure Security Agency. “Well, I’m here today to tell you that my confidence in the security of your vote has never been higher.”
They don't care what he does. They don't care that he's saying things only a dictator would say. They don't care how many Americans deaths he has caused with his bumbling of Covid. They don't care that he fully understands that when he Tweets things like "Liberate Michigan!" the fringe of his supporters use that as a call to arms..... And Trump knows it.
Look at those facts and tell me who really doesn't care about America.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Republican experts are in agreement: The 2020 election is not rigged Jon WardSenior Political Correspondent,Yahoo News•October 7, 2020
Republican voting experts have overwhelmingly rejected President Trump’s claims that the 2020 election is going to be rigged, giving firsthand accounts to Yahoo News that frame the president’s rhetoric as a form of disinformation.
Two of the most experienced and talented election lawyers in the Republican Party — including one who was an adviser to Vice President Mike Pence until recently — told Yahoo News that Trump’s claims are not based in reality.
Multiple Republicans who oversee elections in different states said the same.
“The idea that a massive conspiracy could be undertaken that could actually change the result of a governor’s race or U.S. Senate race — or certainly a presidential race — is a very far-fetched idea and beyond, really, the realm of possibility,” Frank LaRose, the Republican secretary of state of Ohio, said in an interview.
Michael Adams, the Republican secretary of state of Kentucky, echoed that expert opinion.
“You’re not going to see widespread fraud in a presidential or a Senate or a governor’s race. It’s just not feasible,” Adams said in a separate interview with Yahoo News.
Adams is an election law attorney who has advised Republican campaigns across the country for more than a decade. In 2017, he became an election law adviser to Pence through his PAC, the Great America Committee. Adams contacted Yahoo News Wednesday to say he was no longer an adviser, but did not say when that relationship ended.
Benjamin Ginsberg is one of the Republican Party’s other top election law attorneys. In fact, he has been one of the GOP’s foremost operatives when it comes to navigating the law in the world of politics. Ginsberg oversaw the party’s legal campaign to win the 2000 presidential election during the recount in Florida. He has advised four of the last six Republican presidential nominees.
Ginsberg retired on Aug. 31 from law practice, and began speaking out a few days after that to warn America about the danger of Trump’s false claims of a rigged election.
In an interview, Ginsberg described Trump’s sustained verbal assault on the integrity of the American election as unprecedented in American history.
“For the first time, a president of the United States is saying our elections are rigged and fraudulent,” Ginsberg said. “And I’ve been looking at polling places for 38 years as part of my duties and passion for the Republican Party doing well in elections. We’ve been looking for fraud. And I know what evidence is available, and there’s not anything like enough evidence to make the bold assertion that our elections are rigged and fraudulent.”
“It is a perilous thing for a president of the United States to be saying,” Ginsberg said.
And Kim Wyman, Washington state’s top election official, described how two major components of American elections are big obstacles to cheating: decentralization and accountability.
“We have a very decentralized election system that has over 10,000 election officials just like me who are either appointed or elected. They answer to their voters. They answer to their constituents,” said Wyman, a Republican who is Washington’s secretary of state.
“We’re very committed to making sure we have an accurate and fair election. States are working right now to make sure we’re balancing access and security so voters can have a safe voting experience and people can have confidence in the results,” Wyman said. “That’s what our profession is, and that’s what we’re going to do.”
Asked specifically about Trump’s claims of a rigged election, Wyman said: “I would categorically disagree with the president on that claim.”
Cheating and fraud do happen in elections on a small and localized scale, but not on a statewide or national scale. (Yahoo News is tracking incidents of mistakes, malfeasance or fraud in this election.) And the wrongdoers are usually political insiders — not voters. That’s the consensus view not only of Republican voting experts, but also of the nation’s top law enforcement officials.
“We have not seen, to date, a coordinated national voter fraud effort in a major election,” said FBI Director Christopher Wray in congressional testimony on Sept. 17. “[We] certainly have investigated a voter fraud committed by mail. It’s typically been at the local level.”
In that testimony, Wray said his greatest concern is “the steady drumbeat of misinformation” about the integrity of the election. “I think Americans can and should have confidence in our election system and certainly in our democracy,” Wray said. “But I worry that people will take on a feeling of futility because of all of the noise and confusion that’s generated.”
Wray and top officials from three other federal agencies — all of them tasked with preventing foreign interference in elections, and with prosecuting any cases of fraud — released a video statement on Oct. 6 to fight back against this “noise and confusion.”
“There’s been a lot of talk about efforts to hack our elections over the last four years, and some of you might be wondering whether the 2020 elections will be secure,” said Chris Krebs, the director of the Department of Homeland Security’s Cyber Security and Infrastructure Security Agency. “Well, I’m here today to tell you that my confidence in the security of your vote has never been higher.”
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
was enough. Guess I should have used purple as well.
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